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ALERT! Second SUN!! Very clear vid from Aug 13 2012

 
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Its funny how the debunkers say this is a lense flare,if you look at the object it has its own lense flare that red glow that moves round it at the beginning,
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You mean like this?

Note that you don't actually need welder's glass to make this happen. Any flat optical surface in front of the camera will do. If it were real, people everywhere would be seeing it, amateur astronomers especially.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro



Thank you for posting that video Dr. Astro.
It makes a lot of sense, and this thread is now a waste of time.
hf
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Thanks!
hf
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Something is up isn't it?

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You could say that, yes.
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I just videotaped the sun. It is 2:42 pm here in the Midwest USA. I did not see anything in the video other than the sun, BUT, to the left side of the sun there is a blob very close (looks as to be part of sun) which I could not dismiss as being this other "anomaly" and my angle is just not capturing it head on in my area of the world..
So I cannot debunk at this time.
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I've been able to debunk all of the other videos so far, that being said,WTF is that???
 Quoting: TOMMY B


That's not Nibiru.

Nibiru will not be near the sun like that.

Take a DVD disc (wear sunglasses too) hold it up to the sun. All you will see is ONE sun.
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You would cry if you heard how many people I talked to about it here in NJ that replied, "Well I never look up!" Seriously, they never look up
 Quoting: Black Knight


Go visit one of these events and ask how many of them look up:
[link to www.uacnj.org]
Then ask about any given object you see in the sky is and you'll find out what it really is.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Is there any chance we can get some pics or video of Jupiter and maybe Venus.
 Quoting: TOMMY B

Sure, I think I can handle that as long as the weather decides to cooperate.
Are those Jupiters moons by jupiter that you can see between 3-5am with the naked eye.
 Quoting: tommy

I'm guessing you're probably seeing the Pleiades which are near Jupiter, or possibly the stars of the horn of Taurus.
Why is Jupiter so bright? I tried to look at it thru night vision, but it's to bright, Just whites out, but can look at the moon. Seemed strange. Thanks bud.
 Quoting: tommy

Jupiter is bright because it is the biggest planet in the solar system, but Venus is brighter because it's closer and more reflective. Night vision is only going to make it look brighter, it's just not a good tool for planetary observations. I'm surprised though that it doesn't also just white out the moon, but I've only had limited experience with nightvision astronomy.
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Again - the voice of common sense and fact.

Thanks for sorting this out Astro, buddy!
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I just videotaped the sun. It is 2:42 pm here in the Midwest USA. I did not see anything in the video other than the sun, BUT, to the left side of the sun there is a blob very close (looks as to be part of sun) which I could not dismiss as being this other "anomaly" and my angle is just not capturing it head on in my area of the world..
So I cannot debunk at this time.
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Can you post it?
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how many threads of that dumb video are going to be posted before you people give it up.

If there is a 2nd sun that is visible, all of you will see not, not just these nutcases that see it every now and then and run and make a you tube. PUT ON MIND. GOD GAVE YOU ONE.
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again bump

And without reading all of this thread, and the related ones already posted, you can chew Astromut now Dr. Astro all you want, hes right.

And you don't need Astromut on this one. You only need your god given minds and eyes. There is no visible 2nd sun or it would be all over the news because everyone would be seeing it. END of STORY. Stop giving support to these crap MEME's and dumb people.
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Kinda like the fuku info.. huh..? What exactly did the prez say..? Radiation will not affect the US..? Sompthin' like that..?
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Funny how it disappears at 1.37....
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Yes, I see that too. Anyone feeling convinced on this, kindly take the frame finder at the bottom of the video to 1:37 and slide one more frame. Poof, it's gone.

Please do it and get over this one - the second sun is not really there.
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I have to apologize to the OP. This is not the same video I (and the a/c I quoted) was refering to. Sorry I didn't watch it first - the mention of profanity was what made me think it was the other one.
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Downloaded it to Stellarium from JPL,
 Quoting: siniXster

Then you must have the orbital elements. Post them. I don't want to see a video, I want the orbital elements. Post or BS.
If it were hypothetical why and how would they have the orbital elements?
 Quoting: sinixster

That depends. Perhaps you were stupid enough to mistake asteroid 258 Tyche for Matese and Whitmire's hypothetical planet Tyche.
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
Again, I don't want to see a video of stellarium, that's worthless and meaningless, I want to see the actual orbital elements you claim to have downloaded from JPL and put into stellarium.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

See now, there you go, was it really necessary to start flinging mud? I would think someone with your "intelligence" would be able to carry on a convo w/out getting personal. On that note GFY, I have no interest in wasting my personal time on someone that's going to be a disrespectful ass.
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In other words, you mistook asteroid 258 Tyche for a hypothetical planet called Tyche. Got it.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

I don't mince my words, I meant exactly what I said, not interested in wasting my time on someone that isn't going to give back the respect shown him.

The size of your ego amazes me, you actually think that your so intelligent and right that I need to hide from you? Wow, lol, let me know how that works out for ya.
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Sure, you're absolutely right...move along folks, nothing to see here.
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Hey siniXster - I appreciate your wise and thoughtful posts.

Have you read the incredible book by Whitley Strieber, in which he says a mysterious being visited with him one evening in a hotel in Toronto?

The being said this, among much else - "One of the greatest sins for which your soul can suffer forever is the withholding or keeping secret of sacred infomation from mankind". I think many do not realize this, I would certainly hate to put it to the test.

The title of that book was "The Master of the Key".

What sites or books do you find informative?



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Its funny how the debunkers say this is a lense flare,if you look at the object it has its own lense flare that red glow that moves round it at the beginning,
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You mean like this?

Note that you don't actually need welder's glass to make this happen. Any flat optical surface in front of the camera will do. If it were real, people everywhere would be seeing it, amateur astronomers especially.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


They are. You just disregard it everytime they do.
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Does this need pinned? Can anyone explain this? or is it too early for GLP'rs : P
 Quoting: ghost_Safari 10051080

The explanation is simple however no one wants to hear or face the facts.
 Quoting: siniXster


Which explanation? Jupiter? Venus? Nibiru? Dimensional shift?

(Btw im not trying to be a smart ass just would like to know your opinion) :)
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dimensional shift actually sounds kind of compelling. maybe that is why sometimes people see it and sometimes don't.
something is out there. tptb have been battening down their hatches against it.
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Its funny how the debunkers say this is a lense flare,if you look at the object it has its own lense flare that red glow that moves round it at the beginning,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21959415


You mean like this?

Note that you don't actually need welder's glass to make this happen. Any flat optical surface in front of the camera will do. If it were real, people everywhere would be seeing it, amateur astronomers especially.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


They are. You just disregard it everytime they do.
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Youtubers with cell phone cameras are not amateur astronomers.
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I've been able to debunk all of the other videos so far, that being said,WTF is that???
 Quoting: TOMMY B


That's not Nibiru.

Nibiru will not be near the sun like that.

Take a DVD disc (wear sunglasses too) hold it up to the sun. All you will see is ONE sun.
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But it will show up one day.
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Then you must have the orbital elements. Post them. I don't want to see a video, I want the orbital elements. Post or BS.
...

That depends. Perhaps you were stupid enough to mistake asteroid 258 Tyche for Matese and Whitmire's hypothetical planet Tyche.
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
Again, I don't want to see a video of stellarium, that's worthless and meaningless, I want to see the actual orbital elements you claim to have downloaded from JPL and put into stellarium.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

See now, there you go, was it really necessary to start flinging mud? I would think someone with your "intelligence" would be able to carry on a convo w/out getting personal. On that note GFY, I have no interest in wasting my personal time on someone that's going to be a disrespectful ass.
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In other words, you mistook asteroid 258 Tyche for a hypothetical planet called Tyche. Got it.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

I don't mince my words, I meant exactly what I said, not interested in wasting my time on someone that isn't going to give back the respect shown him.

The size of your ego amazes me, you actually think that your so intelligent and right that I need to hide from you? Wow, lol, let me know how that works out for ya.
 Quoting: siniXster


Well if you didn't need to hide from me you would just post the orbital elements, but don't kid yourself, we both know what I'd find out if you did that and it wouldn't be "Nibiru." So go on, make whatever excuse you want, I really don't care but without those elements your claim is worthless.

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you're degree was provided by the same folks that wish to keep humanity enslaved and in the dark when it comes to events like this.
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You've never met the people who examined me and decided I was worthy of the degree. I have. No, they do not want to keep humanity enslaved and in the dark.
but I do know there is the distinct probability that any pertinent info regarding this topic was definitely left out of your curriculum.
 Quoting: sinixster

My curriculum has nothing to do with this. I posted my own analysis, which you ignored, and that is all that matters.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Btw, I ignored nothing, I went through your analysis when you originally posted it, at that time I had no opinion one way or the other on the topic and still didn't after I watched/read it.
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Something is defiantly there next to the sun..


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That is the Moon. Yes, the Moon. It looks that way because that is a VERY sensitive camera.

Quote:
"Because of its sensitivity, even very faint things in the sky can appear very bright. The moon looks a lot like the sun and the planets appear brighter than we are used to seeing them. Even a crescent moon is so bright it saturates the image like the sun does to normal cameras. You can usually tell the difference because when the moon rises you will still see stars but when the sun rises all the stars disappear." [link to www.cfht.hawaii.edu]

Look at the time stamp on the video... May 29, 2011. Look at what time the 'object' rises. Now, look at what time the Moon rose on that date from Hilo, Hawaii (where the observatory is located)--> [link to www.timeanddate.com]

The times match. It was the Moon. Here is Stellarium next to the video with the date and time matched up. Looky looky. The Moon and Jupiter to the right of it. [link to i439.photobucket.com]
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I've been able to debunk all of the other videos so far, that being said,WTF is that???
 Quoting: TOMMY B


That's not Nibiru.

Nibiru will not be near the sun like that.

Take a DVD disc (wear sunglasses too) hold it up to the sun. All you will see is ONE sun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21957147


But it will show up one day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21957147



Lol it won't.

Sorry but you have a life of hard work and paying bills ahead of you.

Embrace it tounge
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how many threads of that dumb video are going to be posted before you people give it up.

If there is a 2nd sun that is visible, all of you will see not, not just these nutcases that see it every now and then and run and make a you tube. PUT ON MIND. GOD GAVE YOU ONE.
 Quoting: Margaret Smith


again bump

And without reading all of this thread, and the related ones already posted, you can chew Astromut now Dr. Astro all you want, hes right.

And you don't need Astromut on this one. You only need your god given minds and eyes. There is no visible 2nd sun or it would be all over the news because everyone would be seeing it. END of STORY. Stop giving support to these crap MEME's and dumb people.
 Quoting: Margaret Smith


With this theory we would never see or learn anything new. People would have to find it first, and it would go thru alternate sources long before the MSN, and then the MSM might run the story, if they were allowed. This is a reflection, from having the camera zoomed in all the way. But 99% of the people on this planet do not even look up at the sky any more. There eyes are glued to a little screen glued to their hands. How have all the planets/comets been found that we know about? Sure as hell not the MSM. Astro is very smart, and great to have around. Would he be honest with us if someone did find something new or different that didn't fit into NASA models? I guess we have to hope so, I hope he is open enough to at least look.peace
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I've been able to debunk all of the other videos so far, that being said,WTF is that???
 Quoting: TOMMY B


That's not Nibiru.

Nibiru will not be near the sun like that.

Take a DVD disc (wear sunglasses too) hold it up to the sun. All you will see is ONE sun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21957147


But it will show up one day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21957147



Lol it won't.

Sorry but you have a life of hard work and paying bills ahead of you.

Embrace it tounge
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True, its possible I may not see it in my life time, but its a real phenomena and its recorded in archeology, in earth's history and in ancient records.
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I just went and grabbed one of my employees welding masks and look right at the sun and i didn't see shit. Some of the videos look legit but i looked and there is nothing there. If you have access to a welding lenses you can do the same.

Take some pictures and post your results
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Cool video, I hadn't watched it all the way through until now.

I was shocked when she moved the glass and the object moves,
if it's that easy anyone can make a "Nibiru".

Its funny how the debunkers say this is a lense flare,if you look at the object it has its own lense flare that red glow that moves round it at the beginning,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21959415


You mean like this?

Note that you don't actually need welder's glass to make this happen. Any flat optical surface in front of the camera will do. If it were real, people everywhere would be seeing it, amateur astronomers especially.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro



Thank you for posting that video Dr. Astro.
It makes a lot of sense, and this thread is now a waste of time.
hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 665120


Thanks!
hf
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Funny how it disappears at 1.37....
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Yes, I see that too. Anyone feeling convinced on this, kindly take the frame finder at the bottom of the video to 1:37 and slide one more frame. Poof, it's gone.

Please do it and get over this one - the second sun is not really there.
 Quoting: StinkerBell


I have to apologize to the OP. This is not the same video I (and the a/c I quoted) was refering to. Sorry I didn't watch it first - the mention of profanity was what made me think it was the other one.
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This is the youtube I was refering to.

[link to www.youtube.com]

I don't see this current video panning left enough to see the same disappearing effect that the above video has at 1:37 / 1:38. If possible I would like to see that.
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Funny how it disappears at 1.37....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14317225

Yes, I see that too. Anyone feeling convinced on this, kindly take the frame finder at the bottom of the video to 1:37 and slide one more frame. Poof, it's gone.

Please do it and get over this one - the second sun is not really there.
 Quoting: StinkerBell


I have to apologize to the OP. This is not the same video I (and the a/c I quoted) was refering to. Sorry I didn't watch it first - the mention of profanity was what made me think it was the other one.
 Quoting: StinkerBell


This is the youtube I was refering to.

[link to www.youtube.com]

I don't see this current video panning left enough to see the same disappearing effect that the above video has at 1:37 / 1:38. If possible I would like to see that.
 Quoting: StinkerBell


OH, now wait a darn second LOL. That is the same voice I think it might be two versions of the same video? Or a separate one that avoids a pan left.
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Do not be mislead truth seekers. When a "resident expert" shows up it is a sign that you are on the right trail. Just like when everyone rode the weatherman's dick until he got flamed with that west coast missile thread when he claimed it was a plane contrail. Hopefully some will remember that one. Anytime you see Astronut, mut, dr whatthefuckever show up...pay no mind to his BS...it won't be long now before it is painfully obvious of the changes going on in our solar system. I suppose he would tell you that jupiter losing bands, saturn having the electrical storm, and venus being on fucking fire are all quite common as well, or at least it's a geese.
I hope your thirty pieces of silver bring you more comfort than Judas...nothing more than a paid disinfo agent.
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That's not Nibiru.

Nibiru will not be near the sun like that.

Take a DVD disc (wear sunglasses too) hold it up to the sun. All you will see is ONE sun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21957147


But it will show up one day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21957147



Lol it won't.

Sorry but you have a life of hard work and paying bills ahead of you.

Embrace it tounge
 Quoting: Chinchibear


True, its possible I may not see it in my life time, but its a real phenomena and its recorded in archeology, in earth's history and in ancient records.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21957147


Regardless...you should knuckle down so you can enjoy THIS life to the maximum capacity with those around you who you love and care for.
peace
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Do not be mislead truth seekers. When a "resident expert" shows up it is a sign that you are on the right trail. Just like when everyone rode the weatherman's dick until he got flamed with that west coast missile thread when he claimed it was a plane contrail. Hopefully some will remember that one. Anytime you see Astronut, mut, dr whatthefuckever show up...pay no mind to his BS...it won't be long now before it is painfully obvious of the changes going on in our solar system. I suppose he would tell you that jupiter losing bands, saturn having the electrical storm, and venus being on fucking fire are all quite common as well, or at least it's a geese.
I hope your thirty pieces of silver bring you more comfort than Judas...nothing more than a paid disinfo agent.
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Please share where I can see/read about these things on jupiter...saturn...and venus
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Interesting. It has is it's own reddish lensflare so it's definitely not flare of the sun. coffee4
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honest to our god, one morning on the way to work, it must have been early morning around 7:10 central, I saw exactly this 2nd sun, same size same position relative to the sun. I thought want in the heck, i believe it was last fall.

swear to god


i did not see the red shape above it though, some part of me wanted to stop but the other part of me said surely someone else is seeing this and it'll be on the news or something with telescope imagining. I should have known better.

PEACE
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google is your friend. I have seen it all with my own two eyes, I have two telescopes of my own and have been watching the heavens for over twenty years...the time is soon my friend.

[link to www.space.com]

[link to science.nasa.gov]

as far as venus goes...go have a look east before dawn, it's quite magnificent. Although there isn't much being said beyond the fringe, it's magnitude is far brighter than it has been in our lifetime.

Stay diligent in your quest for knowledge...question everything and believe no one.





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