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ALERT! Second SUN!! Very clear vid from Aug 13 2012

 
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anyone find it wierd that only the nutjob conspiracy retards see or notice things like this?

btw if there was a second sun i think a few people would notice
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google is your friend. I have seen it all with my own two eyes, I have two telescopes of my own and have been watching the heavens for over twenty years...the time is soon my friend.

[link to www.space.com]

[link to science.nasa.gov]

as far as venus goes...go have a look east before dawn, it's quite magnificent. Although there isn't much being said beyond the fringe, it's magnitude is far brighter than it has been in our lifetime.

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Thank you!
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bet a dr will be along to debunk those as well...
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this vid scares the fuck outta me dammit

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Come on now, that looks nothing at all like the other video. You're saying, see there is no second sun in my video, therefore the others are fake. I might need a little more than that.
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Some people live their whole lives being wrong! Amazing!
 Quoting: ****SUPERFLY****


Sorry buddy but thats not even close. The other vid the second sun doesn't bounce around when he moves/walks. How do you explain that?
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i agree, that is a sun flair in the debunk video, not even close. im not saying the video is true, but the debunk video is it.
 Quoting: RRR661 16512106


Now, I'm not saying the first video in this thread has a real second sun - I'm saying it does not show that. But what the heck superfly? How do you debunk by having a house conveniently in the way of the area left of the sun where the "object" of discussion is located?

Nevertheless, in his other video - - THIS one:

[link to www.youtube.com]

You can see the loss of the effect between 1:37 and 1:38 id you look in the frame finder at the bottom of the video.

Ok so now my perplexity is vanquished and my consternation is relieved.

TY and goodbye :)
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Do not be mislead truth seekers. When a "resident expert" shows up it is a sign that you are on the right trail. Just like when everyone rode the weatherman's dick until he got flamed with that west coast missile thread when he claimed it was a plane contrail. Hopefully some will remember that one. Anytime you see Astronut, mut, dr whatthefuckever show up...pay no mind to his BS...
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So if you automatically disbelieve anything I say... and you automatically disbelieve anything KMart said...
Thread: Mystery "Launch" Hypothetical Orbital Elements *SIGHTING INDIRECTLY CONFIRMED, SOMETHING IS OUT THERE!!!!* (Page 18)
Did I just make your head explode? Seriously though, automatically believing the opposite of whatever I say is not logical at all.
I suppose he would tell you that jupiter losing bands,
 Quoting: AC

You mean like this?
jup1973
Want to guess the year this was taken?
saturn having the electrical storm,
 Quoting: AC

[link to hw3.arz.oeaw.ac.at]
and venus being on fucking fire
 Quoting: AC

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
I hope your thirty pieces of silver bring you more comfort than Judas...nothing more than a paid disinfo agent.
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I'm not a shill, so that means I know you're a lunatic.
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Alright. How come only one person caught this on camera? This 'second sun' looks very blurry compared to what our Sun looks like and I very much doubt that it is anything other than lens flare or some sort of illusion from his camera.
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Do not be mislead truth seekers. When a "resident expert" shows up it is a sign that you are on the right trail. Just like when everyone rode the weatherman's dick until he got flamed with that west coast missile thread when he claimed it was a plane contrail. Hopefully some will remember that one. Anytime you see Astronut, mut, dr whatthefuckever show up...pay no mind to his BS...it won't be long now before it is painfully obvious of the changes going on in our solar system. I suppose he would tell you that jupiter losing bands, saturn having the electrical storm, and venus being on fucking fire are all quite common as well, or at least it's a geese.
I hope your thirty pieces of silver bring you more comfort than Judas...nothing more than a paid disinfo agent.
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I hope these asshole agents get their just due for the lives lost because of no warning, or making these warnings look like nutcases. Hypothetically speaking.

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i've been a nutcase for years...it's the sane ones that i feel sorry for. And the "educated". It's like an old metaphor I used to hear as a child. If you put a frog in a pot of boiling water he will jump out because he knows it will kill him. But if you put him in a pot of water and slowly increase the temperature of the water, he will boil and die.

That is society in general these days, slow changes before the tipping point is reached, and by then it's gonna be too late...so sad for the sleeping, so sad for the awake. It's a real shame what is going on right under our noses...
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Do not be mislead truth seekers. When a "resident expert" shows up it is a sign that you are on the right trail. Just like when everyone rode the weatherman's dick until he got flamed with that west coast missile thread when he claimed it was a plane contrail. Hopefully some will remember that one. Anytime you see Astronut, mut, dr whatthefuckever show up...pay no mind to his BS...it won't be long now before it is painfully obvious of the changes going on in our solar system. I suppose he would tell you that jupiter losing bands, saturn having the electrical storm, and venus being on fucking fire are all quite common as well, or at least it's a geese.
I hope your thirty pieces of silver bring you more comfort than Judas...nothing more than a paid disinfo agent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17960983


I hope these asshole agents get their just due for the lives lost because of no warning, or making these warnings look like nutcases. Hypothetically speaking.
 Quoting: Mwalk


They are simply pointing out what they know. The science we know of can't explain everything but at least these people are using their knowledge of science to try to explain what seems like abnormal changes in our solar system.

The people on here who call everybody who tries to explain why they are wrong 'shills' are the same people who see a stupid fucking video on Youtube and come on here saying "OMG THE WURLD IZ GOIN TO END PLZ PIN!!!!'

The people who believe them are just as fucking stupid!
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Filter flare... morons
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If there was something that obvious in the sky, then there would be videos all over youtube. Besides, his acting skills are horrible. I'm calling it.

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what time u see
what direction
east
west
north
south
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I'm in Michigan, we've been seeing it every clear night for over a week now in the eastern sky traveling from south to north btwn 3-5am.
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The OP video shows it at the same time as the sun; he sounds american. Anybody know where the video was shot or what time?
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Do not be mislead truth seekers. When a "resident expert" shows up it is a sign that you are on the right trail. Just like when everyone rode the weatherman's dick until he got flamed with that west coast missile thread when he claimed it was a plane contrail. Hopefully some will remember that one. Anytime you see Astronut, mut, dr whatthefuckever show up...pay no mind to his BS...it won't be long now before it is painfully obvious of the changes going on in our solar system. I suppose he would tell you that jupiter losing bands, saturn having the electrical storm, and venus being on fucking fire are all quite common as well, or at least it's a geese.
I hope your thirty pieces of silver bring you more comfort than Judas...nothing more than a paid disinfo agent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17960983


I hope these asshole agents get their just due for the lives lost because of no warning, or making these warnings look like nutcases. Hypothetically speaking.
 Quoting: Mwalk


They are simply pointing out what they know. The science we know of can't explain everything but at least these people are using their knowledge of science to try to explain what seems like abnormal changes in our solar system.

The people on here who call everybody who tries to explain why they are wrong 'shills' are the same people who see a stupid fucking video on Youtube and come on here saying "OMG THE WURLD IZ GOIN TO END PLZ PIN!!!!'

The people who believe them are just as fucking stupid!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21399970


Never claimed these were abnormal...just been a very long time since this has all happened. As the old saying goes, "There is nothing new under the sun". This is all part of a natural cycle.

I can promise you the time i have spent outdoors, watching the skies, watching the flora and fauna of our planet far exceeds any JPL or NASA or NOAA and other acronym's empirical data. Just because i'm not formally educated on the subject doesn't mean i'm not an expert.

I can't comment on the video of two suns, i'm not sure what to make of it. I can say it wouldn't suprise me one bit that a camera could pick up something in the UV spectrum that the naked eye could not..for what it's worth.
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Do not be mislead truth seekers. When a "resident expert" shows up it is a sign that you are on the right trail. Just like when everyone rode the weatherman's dick until he got flamed with that west coast missile thread when he claimed it was a plane contrail. Hopefully some will remember that one. Anytime you see Astronut, mut, dr whatthefuckever show up...pay no mind to his BS...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17960983

So if you automatically disbelieve anything I say... and you automatically disbelieve anything KMart said...
Thread: Mystery "Launch" Hypothetical Orbital Elements *SIGHTING INDIRECTLY CONFIRMED, SOMETHING IS OUT THERE!!!!* (Page 18)
Did I just make your head explode? Seriously though, automatically believing the opposite of whatever I say is not logical at all.
I suppose he would tell you that jupiter losing bands,
 Quoting: AC

You mean like this?
jup1973
Want to guess the year this was taken?
saturn having the electrical storm,
 Quoting: AC

[link to hw3.arz.oeaw.ac.at]
and venus being on fucking fire
 Quoting: AC

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
I hope your thirty pieces of silver bring you more comfort than Judas...nothing more than a paid disinfo agent.
 Quoting: AC

I'm not a shill, so that means I know you're a lunatic.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Hey asshole, have no balls eh? gotta leave bad karma when i mentioned no names, SCREW YOU

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Filter flare... morons
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It didnt move at all and remained stationary as the man moved the camera. It was its own set object in the sky, even when Sol was out of the camera. Its likely not an actual sun, but a dark body reflecting Sol's light, otherwise we would see it all day everywhere.

If its drawn towards Sol, and behind it from most vantage points throughout the day, we wouldnt be able to view it except on certain passages when the earth and the object are turned just right for viewing. Id love to see a map derived from the date, time, locations of the best vids and sightings to see if we could predict when and where are best times for viewing.
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Filter flare... morons
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It didnt move at all and remained stationary as the man moved the camera.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20489071

You mean like this?

Note that you don't actually need welder's glass to make this happen. Any flat optical surface in front of the camera will do. If it were real, people everywhere would be seeing it, amateur astronomers especially.
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If its drawn towards Sol, and behind it from most vantage points throughout the day
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I see, so you're clueless about how little topocentric parallax there is at 1 AU distance and beyond.
, we wouldnt be able to view it except on certain passages when the earth and the object are turned just right for viewing.
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It doesn't matter how they're "turned."
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I sometimes wonder when this sun epidemic started? This year? 2 years ago? I'm asking because there would obviously be more threads/videos of people claiming double suns from way back when.

Is it now that people are actually starting to look up more now than ever?
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Do not be mislead truth seekers. When a "resident expert" shows up it is a sign that you are on the right trail. Just like when everyone rode the weatherman's dick until he got flamed with that west coast missile thread when he claimed it was a plane contrail. Hopefully some will remember that one. Anytime you see Astronut, mut, dr whatthefuckever show up...pay no mind to his BS...it won't be long now before it is painfully obvious of the changes going on in our solar system. I suppose he would tell you that jupiter losing bands, saturn having the electrical storm, and venus being on fucking fire are all quite common as well, or at least it's a geese.
I hope your thirty pieces of silver bring you more comfort than Judas...nothing more than a paid disinfo agent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17960983


I hope these asshole agents get their just due for the lives lost because of no warning, or making these warnings look like nutcases. Hypothetically speaking.
 Quoting: Mwalk


They are simply pointing out what they know. The science we know of can't explain everything but at least these people are using their knowledge of science to try to explain what seems like abnormal changes in our solar system.

The people on here who call everybody who tries to explain why they are wrong 'shills' are the same people who see a stupid fucking video on Youtube and come on here saying "OMG THE WURLD IZ GOIN TO END PLZ PIN!!!!'

The people who believe them are just as fucking stupid!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21399970


Never claimed these were abnormal...just been a very long time since this has all happened. As the old saying goes, "There is nothing new under the sun". This is all part of a natural cycle.

I can promise you the time i have spent outdoors, watching the skies, watching the flora and fauna of our planet far exceeds any JPL or NASA or NOAA and other acronym's empirical data. Just because i'm not formally educated on the subject doesn't mean i'm not an expert.

I can't comment on the video of two suns, i'm not sure what to make of it. I can say it wouldn't suprise me one bit that a camera could pick up something in the UV spectrum that the naked eye could not..for what it's worth.
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So basically you are saying that because you look at the sky you know more than NASA, which contains hundreds of Astronomers and astrophysicists working day and night? You know more about the Earth, solar system and the universe than all of these guys combined?
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I sometimes wonder when this sun epidemic started? This year? 2 years ago? I'm asking because there would obviously be more threads/videos of people claiming double suns from way back when.

Is it now that people are actually starting to look up more now than ever?
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I think so...
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where is this filmed?
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these people with their apple computers love to make this crap up
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clappa
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why?
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Filter flare... morons
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It didnt move at all and remained stationary as the man moved the camera.
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You mean like this?

Note that you don't actually need welder's glass to make this happen. Any flat optical surface in front of the camera will do. If it were real, people everywhere would be seeing it, amateur astronomers especially.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

If its drawn towards Sol, and behind it from most vantage points throughout the day
 Quoting: AC

I see, so you're clueless about how little topocentric parallax there is at 1 AU distance and beyond.
, we wouldnt be able to view it except on certain passages when the earth and the object are turned just right for viewing.
 Quoting: AC

It doesn't matter how they're "turned."
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I was talking about the original video, not every random video someone calls a second sun. And as the earth turns yes things do allign differently throughout the day and night. Otherwise the sun would be in the exact place every day without night or day, rising or setting. So our view of objects in space appears to "move" and they line up differently throughout the night.

If it is behind the sun through most of the day, (key word "most") we would only be able to view it when, as it goes through its orbit and we go through ours, there is an allignment where it's position is not blocked out by the sun.
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I just went out and looked...again. Sorry, Only One Sun Out There....Again.
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Not a lens flare.

Too clear to be a Sundog.

Watch the whole video and you will see the guy panning around his yard, so nothing is on the lens, and he is not shooting from inside through glass.

WARNING - some of the language in the video is profane, if that bothers you use mute - the video is self-explanatory and the narration is not necessary.

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I hope these asshole agents get their just due for the lives lost because of no warning, or making these warnings look like nutcases. Hypothetically speaking.
 Quoting: Mwalk


They are simply pointing out what they know. The science we know of can't explain everything but at least these people are using their knowledge of science to try to explain what seems like abnormal changes in our solar system.

The people on here who call everybody who tries to explain why they are wrong 'shills' are the same people who see a stupid fucking video on Youtube and come on here saying "OMG THE WURLD IZ GOIN TO END PLZ PIN!!!!'

The people who believe them are just as fucking stupid!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21399970


Never claimed these were abnormal...just been a very long time since this has all happened. As the old saying goes, "There is nothing new under the sun". This is all part of a natural cycle.

I can promise you the time i have spent outdoors, watching the skies, watching the flora and fauna of our planet far exceeds any JPL or NASA or NOAA and other acronym's empirical data. Just because i'm not formally educated on the subject doesn't mean i'm not an expert.

I can't comment on the video of two suns, i'm not sure what to make of it. I can say it wouldn't suprise me one bit that a camera could pick up something in the UV spectrum that the naked eye could not..for what it's worth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17960983


So basically you are saying that because you look at the sky you know more than NASA, which contains hundreds of Astronomers and astrophysicists working day and night? You know more about the Earth, solar system and the universe than all of these guys combined?
 Quoting: Fuck Jobby


He may not technically "know" more than they do, or perhaps he does, but the point here and in any Niburu thread is that if they do know, they haven't revealed it to the public. Either because 1) they have no idea what to expect, or 2) they know full well what to expect and have decided to quietly make plans up until the time it's close enough that it's more obvious that it is there and can't be hidden anymore.
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Its funny how the debunkers say this is a lense flare,if you look at the object it has its own lense flare that red glow that moves round it at the beginning,
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You mean like this?

Note that you don't actually need welder's glass to make this happen. Any flat optical surface in front of the camera will do. If it were real, people everywhere would be seeing it, amateur astronomers especially.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


They are. You just disregard it everytime they do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20489071


Youtubers with cell phone cameras are not amateur astronomers.
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give us your NASA credentials or eat shit and pound sand,
your equipment is closer to a cell phone than it is to Nasa's
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240p is all you need to debunk this bs.

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I was talking about the original video, not every random video someone calls a second sun.
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Watch it again (all the way through this time) and tell me if it moves when they move the camera...

Note that you don't actually need welder's glass to make this happen. Any flat optical surface in front of the camera will do. If it were real, people everywhere would be seeing it, amateur astronomers especially.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

And as the earth turns yes things do allign differently throughout the day and night. Otherwise the sun would be in the exact place every day without night or day, rising or setting.
 Quoting: AC

Rising and setting has nothing to do with whether an object will appear "behind the sun" or not. Real objects in space don't play peek-a-boo with the sun as a block. They may be behind the sun temporarily, but only for a few months at best, and at that time no one on earth gets to see it regardless of where they are.
If it is behind the sun through most of the day, (key word "most") we would only be able to view it when, as it goes through its orbit and we go through ours, there is an allignment where it's position is not blocked out by the sun.
 Quoting: AC

Word salad. If it comes out from behind the sun as we both orbit the sun, then it's going to continue to do so. It's NOT going to come out for part of the day, go back behind the sun, then pop out again on some other random day and repeat. That's not how objects move in space.
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