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ALERT! Second SUN!! Very clear vid from Aug 13 2012

 
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Funny how it disappears at 1.37....
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EXACTLY :)
I think it was unintentional. He just got excited. My camera will do the same thing, and it will always put the extra spot of light in the same place in relation to the sun, and that is aside from the moving redspot-lense flare.
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Funny how it disappears at 1.37....
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EXACTLY :)
I think it was unintentional. He just got excited. My camera will do the same thing, and it will always put the extra spot of light in the same place in relation to the sun, and that is aside from the moving redspot-lense flare.
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No, no it doesn't disappear.
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Re: ALERT! Second SUN!! Very clear vid from Aug 13 2012
I also caught a photo of it once, two suns side by side, last summer. It was a really cloudy sunset and there always seemed to be these weird, milky clouds full of orbs (lots of photos of those, too) and things coming in from the coast a lot in afternoon. A lot of the cloud cover post Fukushima was so weird looking, almost fake and cartoonish even, was Twilight Zone time. Well, one day, taking photos of the sun as it got low on the horizon in the clouds, I got a glimpse of a second sun right next to it, sort of close, and it was peeking through the clouds, it seemed. Either that, or it was a light ship or something, I even considered the possibility that our sunsets were being simulated by various objects taking turns, and the moon was totally weird, too. Well, here's the pic, anyway...


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Same shot cropped and using invert process:
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And another, if it's a flare, sure looked cool, anyway.

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I don't claim to know for sure that these are not some type of camera flare, but I will say that I took hundreds of photos around that time and I deleted hundreds that did have flares in them and only saved the ones I thought were interesting, or not sure if they were a flare or light artifact. I have no problem with someone calling them a lens flare, but to me it's an example of just how deceiving they can be, if they are indeed nothing "real".
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Love the color in the first one!
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looks like planets around that object in the 3rd pick----as far as op's video i saw a bird fly infront of the object and it was very clear,shit looks real to me
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Same guy.. Aug 12

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K watch this video by the same guy. Pay attention to the actual lens flare that is red as it moves towards the object in question you can see the line where the image is superimposed it cuts off the lens flare.
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Its funny how the debunkers say this is a lense flare,if you look at the object it has its own lense flare that red glow that moves round it at the beginning,
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You mean like this?

Note that you don't actually need welder's glass to make this happen. Any flat optical surface in front of the camera will do. If it were real, people everywhere would be seeing it, amateur astronomers especially.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro
ok well these 2 "suns?" are moving totally differently,at the Mawson station in Antarctic,does anyone know how this is happening?wtf sorry dont know how to embed:
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Re: ALERT! Second SUN!! Very clear vid from Aug 13 2012
Not a lens flare.

Too clear to be a Sundog.

Watch the whole video and you will see the guy panning around his yard, so nothing is on the lens, and he is not shooting from inside through glass.

WARNING - some of the language in the video is profane, if that bothers you use mute - the video is self-explanatory and the narration is not necessary.

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What's interesting the same object was seen over Niemeyer station and was reported on fox news
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Thats called a lense flare.
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Debunk my ass.. laugh


Fox news is trying to head it off at the pass by blowing it off as a weather balloon..
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Same guy.. Aug 12

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If you have a look at 1.37 on that vid you will notice that the 'second sun' disappears. Unless proven otherwise, I'm calling it a fake.
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Same guy.. Aug 12

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 Quoting: Waterbug


If you have a look at 1.37 on that vid you will notice that the 'second sun' disappears. Unless proven otherwise, I'm calling it a fake.
hf
 Quoting: Kazedfin


Possibly... or not. I'm waiting for empirical proof.. either way.

We don't know a whole lot about the universe.. as much as some would have us believe.

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We could avoid all the bullshit talk here if the people who take videos of these objects would just ROTATE THE FUCKING CAMERA AROUND, if the object doesn't rotate with the camera, boom, problem solved. coffee4
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We could avoid all the bullshit talk here if the people who take videos of these objects would just ROTATE THE FUCKING CAMERA AROUND, if the object doesn't rotate with the camera, boom, problem solved. coffee4
 Quoting: balthuuu


If you watch the whole video you can see this guy rotated the camera around quite a bit - this is not a lens flare as so many on here have pointed out.

There is a lens flare in this video and that is easy to see. The pink and white orbs are not lens flares.




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We could avoid all the bullshit talk here if the people who take videos of these objects would just ROTATE THE FUCKING CAMERA AROUND, if the object doesn't rotate with the camera, boom, problem solved. coffee4
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Well, now that you have come right out and suggested that perhaps someone will listen, thank you, well said.
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Can you count the planets/moons with this thing? I count 6! hiding

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Does this need pinned? Can anyone explain this? or is it too early for GLP'rs : P
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The explanation is simple however no one wants to hear or face the facts.
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If you say you see it siniXster, then I belive it, I know you can be trusted. I had been watching a planet/dwarf/whatever with a number of moons for over a year now that clear the treeline to my E/SE for over a year now. The moons made a cross in the sky and my wife and neighbor watched it with me many times. This arrangement appears in a completely different area of the shy than Jupiter which we also observe while it is visible.

You would cry if you heard how many people I talked to about it here in NJ that replied, "Well I never look up!" Seriously, they never look up I guess it is hard to elevate your neck in an upward direction when your head is lodged firmly up your ass.

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Thank you for the back up Brother and thank you for the trust, my son was the first to see it, woke me at 4am on a work day last week so it better have been good, lol.

As far as spending my time goes, we've taken a step back from media and have been prepping and just being together everyday. Preps are just about done save for a few odds and ends, can never spend too much time with friends and family tho. Either way, spiritually and physically, I and my family are ready to face what is happening, whether it be this, the methane, corexit, pandemic or anything else that may get thrown at us in the next few months.

Much love and peace to you my friend.
 Quoting: siniXster


Hey Fellow Michigander....I'm about 25 miles south of the bridge. Been too cloudy the last few nights to see anything.

Looks like a clear night tonight, will try to check it out. Look to the northeast at around 3:30 am, correct?

I have a good camera, GPS stamp also...so when I get a shot of this I'll post it.

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i watched the video and didnt ready any posts so forgive me if this has been brought up.

but if that is Nibiru then what happen to all the 'verified' reports that it is approaching from the south pole?
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i watched the video and didnt ready any posts so forgive me if this has been brought up.

but if that is Nibiru then what happen to all the 'verified' reports that it is approaching from the south pole?
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Good question. I believe at certain times of the year it has been easier to see from the South Pole. However as it gets closer, there will be more viewing opportunities.

Another poster said it better than I can:

"Secondly, for those who say "if there was a second sun we should all see it by now" - you clearly don't understand anything about astronomy, physics, and in particular the nature of elliptical orbits in connection with the earth's own revolution around the sun.

Just like our common stars/ solar planets aren't visible all day in the same location, an incoming object could very well only be visible at specific hours in certain locations at varying angles, with a periodicity very different than those of our solar planets."


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i watched the video and didnt ready any posts so forgive me if this has been brought up.

but if that is Nibiru then what happen to all the 'verified' reports that it is approaching from the south pole?
 Quoting: Oyster


Good question. I believe at certain times of the year it has been easier to see from the South Pole. However as it gets closer, there will be more viewing opportunities.

Another poster said it better than I can:

"Secondly, for those who say "if there was a second sun we should all see it by now" - you clearly don't understand anything about astronomy, physics, and in particular the nature of elliptical orbits in connection with the earth's own revolution around the sun.

Just like our common stars/ solar planets aren't visible all day in the same location, an incoming object could very well only be visible at specific hours in certain locations at varying angles, with a periodicity very different than those of our solar planets."


Peace and good luck!



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 Quoting: get_over_it


And then another poster said it better than that poster:
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You can't be both "by" or "behind" the sun and then simultaneously be visible "exclusively from the southern hemisphere." In fact, there's no reason at all why it would only be visible to the south pole, ever. The entire southern celestial sphere can be seen from anywhere in the southern hemisphere. But if it's near the sun, then it's visible in both hemispheres, and is not at all exclusive to the southern hemisphere. In any case, the way in which the poster you quoted tried to describe its motion is pure nonsense.

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i watched the video and didnt ready any posts so forgive me if this has been brought up.

but if that is Nibiru then what happen to all the 'verified' reports that it is approaching from the south pole?
 Quoting: Oyster


Good question. I believe at certain times of the year it has been easier to see from the South Pole. However as it gets closer, there will be more viewing opportunities.

Another poster said it better than I can:

"Secondly, for those who say "if there was a second sun we should all see it by now" - you clearly don't understand anything about astronomy, physics, and in particular the nature of elliptical orbits in connection with the earth's own revolution around the sun.

Just like our common stars/ solar planets aren't visible all day in the same location, an incoming object could very well only be visible at specific hours in certain locations at varying angles, with a periodicity very different than those of our solar planets."


Peace and good luck!



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i dont think that would be true for an incoming object.
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We could avoid all the bullshit talk here if the people who take videos of these objects would just ROTATE THE FUCKING CAMERA AROUND, if the object doesn't rotate with the camera, boom, problem solved. coffee4
 Quoting: balthuuu


If you watch the whole video you can see this guy rotated the camera around quite a bit
 Quoting: get_over_it


You mean like this?

Note that this does not require welder's glass to do, a filter flare can be created by any flat optical surface in front of the lens. Like this, it can remain stationary while you move the camera around.
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I think everyone can see this... the Moon is directly below Venus within Gemini... I've put the exact Long,Lat, and Elevation of CFHT.

It's the moon.
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I think everyone can see this... the Moon is directly below Venus within Gemini... I've put the exact Long,Lat, and Elevation of CFHT.

It's the moon.
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They're back
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It's that time of the year

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Re: ALERT! Second SUN!! Very clear vid from Aug 13 2012
It's the moon,it's Jupiter, it's lens flare...it's funny, every second sun posting has all the same shills with all the same bullshit...and yet these pictures keep showing up...I'm not a scientists, or an astronomer, but I am a professional photographer and photo editor, and I will give you my humble professional opinion...whatever is in this video is in the sky adjacent to the sun. It's not a lens flare, reflection,refraction, or anything else.
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It's the moon,it's Jupiter, it's lens flare...it's funny, every second sun posting has all the same shills with all the same bullshit...and yet these pictures keep showing up...I'm not a scientists, or an astronomer, but I am a professional photographer and photo editor, and I will give you my humble professional opinion...whatever is in this video is in the sky adjacent to the sun. It's not a lens flare, reflection,refraction, or anything else.
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You in your opinion...think something is there?
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It's the moon,it's Jupiter, it's lens flare...it's funny, every second sun posting has all the same shills with all the same bullshit...
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Except we're not shills and it's not bullshit.
and yet these pictures keep showing up...
 Quoting: AC

I'm sorry, you expected the idiots to learn something and go away? I didn't. Idiots with cell phone cameras and filter flares will always be present on youtube. I hate to say it, but the masses are less educated about astronomy than they used to be. You look at a kid's book about astronomy from 40-50 years ago and it's far more educational than the crap they have out there today. Here's the end result, idiots with crappy cell phone camera videos on youtube showing things they think are "brown dwarf" stars and other impossible objects showing up in the inner solar system.
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Can you count the planets/moons with this thing? I count 6! hiding

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In order from rises:

Jupiter rises,

then the moon,

then the sun.

They all coincide with the times of moon rise and sunrise on the 14th in Hawaii.
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It's the moon,it's Jupiter, it's lens flare...it's funny, every second sun posting has all the same shills with all the same bullshit...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3573926

Except we're not shills and it's not bullshit.
and yet these pictures keep showing up...
 Quoting: AC

I'm sorry, you expected the idiots to learn something and go away? I didn't. Idiots with cell phone cameras and filter flares will always be present on youtube. I hate to say it, but the masses are less educated about astronomy than they used to be. You look at a kid's book about astronomy from 40-50 years ago and it's far more educational than the crap they have out there today. Here's the end result, idiots with crappy cell phone camera videos on youtube showing things they think are "brown dwarf" stars and other impossible objects showing up in the inner solar system.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


IF Nibiru is as big as many say it is...Could/would it not destroy any planet it came close too?...Or would it just cause some destruction on a lower scale?...something bigger than Earth would/could turn this planet into a volcanic hell...killing off every living thing...but then the question of mass/denisity comes into play...
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It's the moon,it's Jupiter, it's lens flare...it's funny, every second sun posting has all the same shills with all the same bullshit...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3573926

Except we're not shills and it's not bullshit.
and yet these pictures keep showing up...
 Quoting: AC

I'm sorry, you expected the idiots to learn something and go away? I didn't. Idiots with cell phone cameras and filter flares will always be present on youtube. I hate to say it, but the masses are less educated about astronomy than they used to be. You look at a kid's book about astronomy from 40-50 years ago and it's far more educational than the crap they have out there today. Here's the end result, idiots with crappy cell phone camera videos on youtube showing things they think are "brown dwarf" stars and other impossible objects showing up in the inner solar system.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


IF Nibiru is as big as many say it is...Could/would it not destroy any planet it came close too?...
 Quoting: Settle4It

It would completely disrupt the orbits of the planets. Our solar system would not be an orderly place with the planets all orbiting on about the same plane with relatively low eccentricities. In fact it would be quite chaotic. I'll be making a thread about that shortly.

Chaos would not bode well for the development of civilization; it's bad enough that we have to deal with the occasional near earth object hitting our planet, it'd be far worse with the asteroid belt disrupted and large asteroids flying any which way. Even the planets themselves would occasionally switch their order from the sun. Earth's increasing eccentricity would result in wild seasonal temperature variations as our seasons would no longer be driven exclusively by our angular tilt, but also by our drastically changing distance from the sun each year.
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