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PalmOfDeborah
(OP) User ID: 959415 United States 10/21/2010 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was just looking up how to make one...there's some neat ideas out there. I think I will make that my next project. Quoting: ShamarWhere did you find info on making one? No linky, you stinky! Maybe that's something we can get together and do...what an awesome way for us to fellowship!!! Last Edited by PalmOfDeborah on 10/21/2010 04:20 PM The greatest illusion is the illusion of separation. |
Shamar
User ID: 277256 United States 10/21/2010 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was just looking up how to make one...there's some neat ideas out there. I think I will make that my next project. Quoting: PalmOfDeborahWhere did you find info on making one? No linky, you stinky! Maybe that's something we can get together and do...what an awesome way for us to fellowship!!! google is your friend!! hahah~ [link to www.leveisha.org] [link to www.ehow.com] Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami Love is a one-way street. |
Rev. Stargazer
User ID: 1114807 United States 10/21/2010 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So....what did Paul mean in this passage? 1Co 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head. Seems to contradict the wearing of the talit for men during prayer. Bad translation? "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
PalmOfDeborah
(OP) User ID: 959415 United States 10/21/2010 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So....what did Paul mean in this passage? Quoting: Rev. Stargazer1Co 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head. Seems to contradict the wearing of the talit for men during prayer. Bad translation? Did you just "BUT PAUL SAYS..." me? LOL I will research that further. While I'm doing that, read this... [link to www.thewayprepared.com] The greatest illusion is the illusion of separation. |
Rev. Stargazer
User ID: 1114807 United States 10/21/2010 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So....what did Paul mean in this passage? Quoting: Rev. Stargazer1Co 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head. Seems to contradict the wearing of the talit for men during prayer. Bad translation? In the Greek Interlinear, it says 'down' yet the translation on the right says covered. Something is amiss here... "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
Rev. Stargazer
User ID: 1114807 United States 10/21/2010 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So....what did Paul mean in this passage? Quoting: PalmOfDeborah1Co 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head. Seems to contradict the wearing of the talit for men during prayer. Bad translation? Did you just "BUT PAUL SAYS..." me? LOL I will research that further. While I'm doing that, read this... [link to www.thewayprepared.com] LOL! Oh! Heavens, NO! I'm beginning to question him even more. Check out verse one. Be ye followers of me, even as I also [am] of Christ. That seems VERY wrong of him to say. "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
Rev. Stargazer
User ID: 1114807 United States 10/21/2010 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yahoshua said - Mat 23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. Mat 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Mat 23:10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. Paul said - 1Co 4:15 For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. 1Co 4:16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me. I think I now agree with Big Ritchie - Paul was a false. "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
PalmOfDeborah
(OP) User ID: 959415 United States 10/21/2010 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yahoshua said - Quoting: Rev. StargazerMat 23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. Mat 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Mat 23:10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. Paul said - 1Co 4:15 For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. 1Co 4:16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me. I think I now agree with Big Ritchie - Paul was a false. I am currently of the thought that he was terribly mistranslated to meet an agenda other than YHWH's plan for all of mankind to be saved through the Torah made flesh. It would make sense that he would be chosen to go to the Gentiles because he was so learned in the Tanakh and could share the deeper truths with those not raised in them. How better for the Adversary to attempt to destroy the truth than to destroy the testimony of the apostle to the gentiles? After all, he thought he had them, the gentiles, for his own inheritance. The greatest illusion is the illusion of separation. |
Rev. Stargazer
User ID: 1114807 United States 10/21/2010 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yahoshua said - Quoting: PalmOfDeborahMat 23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. Mat 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Mat 23:10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. Paul said - 1Co 4:15 For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. 1Co 4:16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me. I think I now agree with Big Ritchie - Paul was a false. I am currently of the thought that he was terribly mistranslated to meet an agenda other than YHWH's plan for all of mankind to be saved through the Torah made flesh. It would make sense that he would be chosen to go to the Gentiles because he was so learned in the Tanakh and could share the deeper truths with those not raised in them. How better for the Adversary to attempt to destroy the truth than to destroy the testimony of the apostle to the gentiles? After all, he thought he had them, the gentiles, for his own inheritance. But, Paul was not the one chosen to go to the Gentiles, Peter was. I've been asking YHWH to show me the truth about Paul for quite awhile now and when I saw the verses in Corinthians where he tells them to follow him, well, that about did it for me. Still praying and researching though. Watching a video series right now. "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
Shamar
User ID: 834793 United States 10/21/2010 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just tried to download it to my ipod but it's not available that avenue. Quoting: Sir Phydeau[link to www.video2mp3.net] This website extracts mp3 from youtube videos. The songs they have on YouTube that aren't on their CD ... that's how I nabbed them. I am not very savvy......i downloaded, but now i don't know what to do with it.....?? Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami Love is a one-way street. |
Rev. Stargazer
User ID: 1114807 United States 10/21/2010 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by Mrs. Smith on 10/21/2010 09:58 PM "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
Sir Phydeau
User ID: 960398 United States 10/21/2010 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not very savvy......i downloaded, but now i don't know what to do with it.....?? Quoting: ShamarThat depends on your mp3 player. If you have an ipod, then you'd add the tracks to iTunes and then transfer them over. "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
PalmOfDeborah
(OP) User ID: 959415 United States 10/23/2010 11:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CHRISTIANS WHO WANT to develop the Hebraic mind of the Messiah will find it helpful to rethink the Torah (Law) in the light of the Spirit. We tend to overlook the baseline biblical truth that “the Torah (Law) is spiritual” (Romans 7:14); that our true selves delight in it (7:22); and that when we walk by the Spirit we will fulfill its righteous requirements (8:4), as did our Lord. Historically, Christian polemics against Judaism have stressed negative aspects of the Law as that which identifies and condemns sin and brings curse instead of blessing upon the rebellious and disobedient. Here are some Hebraic principles that will help you develop a more positive attitude toward the Torah (Law). The Torah is a loving Father’s teaching. The Hebrew word torah fundamentally connotes guidance and instruction – that which aims you so that you hit the mark. And the mark for the Torah always is life. The English word Law (from the Greek nomos) seldom has such a positive connotation; so you may find it helpful instead to use the Hebrew term that Jesus used, Torah. The Torah is a treasure. Only in light of the above can we appreciate the Psalmist’s attitude: “O how I love your Torah!” (Ps 119:97). Psalm 119 consists of 8 verses for each of the 22 letters of the Hebrew alphabet, and every one of the 176 verses extols the wisdom and will of God found in the multifaceted Torah. The Torah is a gift of the Spirit. The Torah was written by “the finger of God” (Ex 31:18; Deut 9:10). This Hebrew idiom is found also in Luke 11:20 and explained in the parallel of Matthew 12:28. It means “the Spirit of God”. Truly the Torah – the foundational “Scripture” to which the Apostle Paul alludes in 2 Timothy 3:16 – is “inspired”, i.e., in-Spirited. It is God breathed. The Torah is guidance for a redeemed people. The Law was given to Israel after they had been saved out of Egypt, not as the basis or means of their salvation. It was meant to guide the covenant people in paths of righteousness that would bring them to the appointed place of promise and productivity. As followers of Jesus of Nazareth, it is good to be reminded that these things “were written for our instruction” (1 Cor 10:11) as well. God’s Word is truth (Ps 119:160; Jn 17:17), and Yeshua reminds us that the Holy Spirit is a Spirit of Truth (Jn 15:26). We would do well this Pentecost season to study the spiritual connection between Sinai and Zion. From - [link to www.jcstudies.com] The greatest illusion is the illusion of separation. |
PalmOfDeborah
(OP) User ID: 959415 United States 10/24/2010 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I found the below information on [link to www.hoshanarabbah.org] ************************************************************ In 2008, Natan and Sandi Lawrence from Hoshana Rabbah Messianic Discipleship Resources joined the Karaites in Jerusalem, who are the recognized leaders of the Aviv Barley search in Israel, and other Messianic believers as we searched over the land of Israel checking the stages of development of the barley. We did not realize how much barley grows wild there!! Wild two-row (ancient) and cultivated six-row barley is everywhere! We learned to distinguish barley from wheat, oats, and tares that had formed heads. The tares are indistinguishable until they mature and produce their heads without fruit. We were presented with a good field study on the stages of barley and grain crop development from RuthAnne Koch, an agronomist and a Messianic believer from Colorado and Nehemia Gordon, a Karaite Jew. RuthAnne is a trained observer and certified agronomist, and she is a very good teacher. RuthAnne's husband, Bernie, who was also part of the search team, owns and operates a crop dusting business in the United States, so they are experts in their respective fields. In 2008, we searched field after field, eventually breaking up into 3 teams to cover more ground. There were eight Messianic believers on our team, which included RuthAnne and her husband. We mostly found barley that had just flowered, some had not yet formed heads, some just in the pollination stage, some in the watery stage, some in the milk stage, and two or three stalks in all in a soft dough-like stage, which is still too moist to be aviv. Aviv fields are a golden yellow color and what we saw was barley in the green or white stage (flowering or just flowered). The second day of the search in the Negev we found barley plants that were even less mature. This experience showed us how dilligently the search is done and that there are knowledgeable experts on the team. It was a good opportunity to see the land as well as learn about the stages of developments of the barley crop. We encourage others to go and join the search and experience this for yourselves! The greatest illusion is the illusion of separation. |
Shamar
User ID: 277256 United States 10/25/2010 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can speak against those things I find evil, but I cannot share spiritual truths with those who have no real interest in them beyond "I enjoy arguing." Quoting: Sandi_TI find it most interesting that the people who have experienced "alien abduction" share virtually the same experiences as people who have experienced NDE. Not all....but many many. Interesting too, is that some of them will not share either the fullness of their visions or experiences. I am going to just come out and say, that the watchers provide the same *knowledge* as is seemingly provided to certain NDE'rs. Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami Love is a one-way street. |
Sandi_T
User ID: 873093 United States 10/25/2010 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can speak against those things I find evil, but I cannot share spiritual truths with those who have no real interest in them beyond "I enjoy arguing." Quoting: ShamarI find it most interesting that the people who have experienced "alien abduction" share virtually the same experiences as people who have experienced NDE. Not all....but many many. Interesting too, is that some of them will not share either the fullness of their visions or experiences. I am going to just come out and say, that the watchers provide the same *knowledge* as is seemingly provided to certain NDE'rs. Yes, I've heard all the veiled and not-so-veiled attempts to claim that my experiences were with satan or were with aliens or what-ever-else. What amuses me about your assertion here is that supposedly, in your veiled references here, I'm supposed to be worshiping satan or the watchers or the demons or whatever... yet for whatever reason, I'm not spreading my religion so it can properly propagate and take over the world. Isn't that the purpose and the point and the intent of satan? To rule the world, to lead everyone away from your god-monster? Shouldn't I, as his supposed follower and worshiper, be trying to bring everyone I can into the fold and make them believe my "satan religion"? Can't you come up with a better way to try to goad me? No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf: Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives |
PalmOfDeborah
(OP) User ID: 959415 United States 10/26/2010 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am posting part 1 of an 8 part series regarding the return to the Name YHWH and the call to "Come Out of Her"...as in the Mother RCC and her Protesting/Protestant Daughters. [link to www.youtube.com] Last Edited by PalmOfDeborah on 10/26/2010 11:11 AM The greatest illusion is the illusion of separation. |
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PalmOfDeborah
(OP) User ID: 959415 United States 10/26/2010 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rev 3:9 "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1142446You do realize, don't you, that this is speaking of the Mother RCC and her protestant Daughters who think they have replaced the Hebrews and claim the promises of YHWH to the Hebrews? Will you remain willfully rebellious in your religion or will you seek YHWH? The greatest illusion is the illusion of separation. |
Shamar
User ID: 277256 United States 10/26/2010 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can speak against those things I find evil, but I cannot share spiritual truths with those who have no real interest in them beyond "I enjoy arguing." Quoting: Sandi_TI find it most interesting that the people who have experienced "alien abduction" share virtually the same experiences as people who have experienced NDE. Not all....but many many. Interesting too, is that some of them will not share either the fullness of their visions or experiences. I am going to just come out and say, that the watchers provide the same *knowledge* as is seemingly provided to certain NDE'rs. Yes, I've heard all the veiled and not-so-veiled attempts to claim that my experiences were with satan or were with aliens or what-ever-else. What amuses me about your assertion here is that supposedly, in your veiled references here, I'm supposed to be worshiping satan or the watchers or the demons or whatever... yet for whatever reason, I'm not spreading my religion so it can properly propagate and take over the world. Isn't that the purpose and the point and the intent of satan? To rule the world, to lead everyone away from your god-monster? Shouldn't I, as his supposed follower and worshiper, be trying to bring everyone I can into the fold and make them believe my "satan religion"? Can't you come up with a better way to try to goad me? Sandi, I am not trying to goad you and I'm not accusing you of anything. I am trying to understand. Since you are not forthcoming, I am forced to research on my own. And yes, from what I understand you have experienced, it matches others that have had NDE's and abductee experience. It's most interesting that there seems to be a forbidden command to totally share however, amongst some. Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami Love is a one-way street. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1142446 Ireland 10/26/2010 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rev 3:9 "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee." Quoting: PalmOfDeborahYou do realize, don't you, that this is speaking of the Mother RCC and her protestant Daughters who think they have replaced the Hebrews and claim the promises of YHWH to the Hebrews? Will you remain willfully rebellious in your religion or will you seek YHWH? I ain't the one who is rebellious . |
Sir Phydeau
User ID: 960398 United States 10/26/2010 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I ain't the one who is rebellious . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1142446LOL! May the finger of God on His mighty right arm touch you, sir. "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
PalmOfDeborah
(OP) User ID: 959415 United States 10/26/2010 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rev 3:9 "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1142446You do realize, don't you, that this is speaking of the Mother RCC and her protestant Daughters who think they have replaced the Hebrews and claim the promises of YHWH to the Hebrews? Will you remain willfully rebellious in your religion or will you seek YHWH? I ain't the one who is rebellious . So, are you of the Mother killing the Daughter or of the Daughter killing the Mother? Are you catholic or protestant? Interesting how you all just kill each other in the name of religion. All sacrifices to the false gods. The greatest illusion is the illusion of separation. |
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PalmOfDeborah
(OP) User ID: 959415 United States 10/26/2010 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a born-again Christian with many experiences under my belt . I am not in rebellion with God . I am on the right path . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1142446Do you worship your god on the venerable day of the sun? Do you celebrate the birth of your sun god on December 25? Do you celebrate your goddess on Easter and pretend it has anything to do with the resurrection your christ? Or, do you observe the Sabbath, Feasts, and Appointed times of YHWH? The greatest illusion is the illusion of separation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1142446 Ireland 10/26/2010 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a born-again Christian with many experiences under my belt . I am not in rebellion with God . I am on the right path . Quoting: PalmOfDeborahDo you worship your god on the venerable day of the sun? Do you celebrate the birth of your sun god on December 25? Do you celebrate your goddess on Easter and pretend it has anything to do with the resurrection your christ? Or, do you observe the Sabbath, Feasts, and Appointed times of YHWH? No i keep the Sabbath on Saturday . No i don't celebrate the birth of God on December 25 . No to all . False doctrine . |
PalmOfDeborah
(OP) User ID: 959415 United States 10/26/2010 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a born-again Christian with many experiences under my belt . I am not in rebellion with God . I am on the right path . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1142446Do you worship your god on the venerable day of the sun? Do you celebrate the birth of your sun god on December 25? Do you celebrate your goddess on Easter and pretend it has anything to do with the resurrection your christ? Or, do you observe the Sabbath, Feasts, and Appointed times of YHWH? No i keep the Sabbath on Saturday . No i don't celebrate the birth of God on December 25 . No to all . False doctrine . I am glad to hear that you have been called out of the false doctrines. What are you doing to help others come out of her? Are you really in Ireland? Are there many Sabbath keepers there? The greatest illusion is the illusion of separation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1142446 Ireland 10/26/2010 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a born-again Christian with many experiences under my belt . I am not in rebellion with God . I am on the right path . Quoting: PalmOfDeborahDo you worship your god on the venerable day of the sun? Do you celebrate the birth of your sun god on December 25? Do you celebrate your goddess on Easter and pretend it has anything to do with the resurrection your christ? Or, do you observe the Sabbath, Feasts, and Appointed times of YHWH? No i keep the Sabbath on Saturday . No i don't celebrate the birth of God on December 25 . No to all . False doctrine . I am glad to hear that you have been called out of the false doctrines. What are you doing to help others come out of her? Are you really in Ireland? Are there many Sabbath keepers there? Thanks , Well i try my best to witness and spread the truth on GLP as much as i can . Yes I'm from Ireland . Not sure how many keep the Sabbath here because as you know it is a predominantly Catholic country . I pray for revival . Have faith that God will help expose the lies and deceit during the tribulation , it is pretty sad to me to say the least . Sorry about my tone of posts earlier , have to control myself more , very passionate , God bless ya Deborah |
PalmOfDeborah
(OP) User ID: 959415 United States 10/26/2010 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a born-again Christian with many experiences under my belt . I am not in rebellion with God . I am on the right path . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1142446Do you worship your god on the venerable day of the sun? Do you celebrate the birth of your sun god on December 25? Do you celebrate your goddess on Easter and pretend it has anything to do with the resurrection your christ? Or, do you observe the Sabbath, Feasts, and Appointed times of YHWH? No i keep the Sabbath on Saturday . No i don't celebrate the birth of God on December 25 . No to all . False doctrine . I am glad to hear that you have been called out of the false doctrines. What are you doing to help others come out of her? Are you really in Ireland? Are there many Sabbath keepers there? Thanks , Well i try my best to witness and spread the truth on GLP as much as i can . Yes I'm from Ireland . Not sure how many keep the Sabbath here because as you know it is a predominantly Catholic country . I pray for revival . Have faith that God will help expose the lies and deceit during the tribulation , it is pretty sad to me to say the least . Sorry about my tone of posts earlier , have to control myself more , very passionate , God bless ya Deborah YHWH bless you and keep you! Once YHWH starts revealing His pure truth to you, it is easy to go from sad about the deception to angry about what has been hidden to zealous in GUARDING the Name of YHWH, His Torah/Instructions, and the True Testimony of Yahuwshua Ha'Moshiach. Please consider moving a little farther on your journey and watch/listen to the youtube series I posted above (on pg 38). The apostasy is even greater that we may imagine. Last Edited by PalmOfDeborah on 10/26/2010 01:06 PM The greatest illusion is the illusion of separation. |