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~*~*I Keep/Guard the 7th Day Sabbath...Ask Me A Question*~*~

 
PalmOfDeborah  (OP)

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This is my thoughts on the Sabbath, there are 13 tribes, and 13 luna mounths in a year.

Check out this pic, on the cover of my king james bible.

[link to i52.tinypic.com]

Im thinking each of these men are symbolic for each mounth, the one known as Jesus is in the middle, 7th mounth.

Now could it be that not only the 7th day is holy but also the 7th mounth, and 7th year, and also every 49 years, which is 7 times 7, you get an Jubillee year, also celebrated by the ancient hebrews.

777

Note in the pic, the table is rectangle, not round or square(tis to do with geometry)

Now the interesting thing is the 7th mounth, going by my ancient callender, the 7th luna mounth lands in november - december.

(Just shareing thoughts)


Thanks for joining in the discussion. I agree there are many important "sevens" mentioned in Scripture.


All goods :), I have an interest in the Sabbath, as i was brought up in the Seventh day Adventist church, so ive been wanting to validate these teachings ive been exsposed to, SDA recongize the sabbath from sun down friday, to sun down saturday.

Im interested in every bodys opinion and view on this subject, quite important me thinks, as its the only commandment that says Remember at the start.

Also ive discovered that my culture also has similar traditions as the ancient hebrews.

Interestingly, ancient Maori traditions relate that since antiquity the Maoris have observed ceremonial and dietary laws very similar to those of the ancient Hebrews. They even kept the seventh day "Sabbath" as a day of rest! Also, every 7 times 7 years -- or 49 years -- they observed a Jubilee Year similar to that of the ancient Hebrews." These similarities simply cannot be explained away as "mere coincidence"! The Maoris, like the Hebrews, even had a "sacred month" given over to Harvest thanksgiving, corresponding to the Hebrew month of Tishri and the Festival of Tabernacles.

[link to www.hope-of-israel.org]
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Send me an email (in my signature). I would love to talk to you about your 7th Day upbringing and the similar traditions between your culture and the ancient Hebrews. There are others here that would be interested in dialogging with you further as well.
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Can you keep my Sabbath? I'm not going to need it.

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***I plan to guard the integrity of this thread and will moderate accordingly. I will delete all posts and or ban posters who try to derail the purpose of this thread.

The purpose is for genuine inquiries to myself and my brethren here on GLP regarding our rejection of the Religious System of Roman Catholicism and all it Protestant Daughters.

If you have heard the call to "Come Out of Her" and want to heed that call, we would love to discuss your questions with you.

If I do not have the answer to your questions, I will invite others to assist you in your search for the truth of the Word of YHWH and the true Testimony of Yahoshua.

Shalom uvRacha,
Deb
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Are you part of an unicorporated (non 501c3) Sabbath keeping home church?

Were you/are you a Seventh Day Adventist?
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All goods :), I have an interest in the Sabbath, as i was brought up in the Seventh day Adventist church, so ive been wanting to validate these teachings ive been exsposed to, SDA recongize the sabbath from sun down friday, to sun down saturday.

Im interested in every bodys opinion and view on this subject, quite important me thinks, as its the only commandment that says Remember at the start.

Also ive discovered that my culture also has similar traditions as the ancient hebrews.

Interestingly, ancient Maori traditions relate that since antiquity the Maoris have observed ceremonial and dietary laws very similar to those of the ancient Hebrews. They even kept the seventh day "Sabbath" as a day of rest! Also, every 7 times 7 years -- or 49 years -- they observed a Jubilee Year similar to that of the ancient Hebrews." These similarities simply cannot be explained away as "mere coincidence"! The Maoris, like the Hebrews, even had a "sacred month" given over to Harvest thanksgiving, corresponding to the Hebrew month of Tishri and the Festival of Tabernacles.

[link to www.hope-of-israel.org]
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!!!!!!!! You may be interested to hear about the recent gather of Polynesian Alii here on Kauai. The opening ceremony was on Feast of Trumpets and began with the blowing of the conch shells. On a 3 hour radio show after the conference, a couple of the Chiefs of Hawaii and Atooi talked about how they now KNEW they were of the tribes of Israel. The whole week long conference was totally focused on a return to YHWH first, sovereignty second.
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Shabbat Shalom

Question

what would you say to Gaia if she posted on the shabbos


Seriously? I wouldn't say anything. That is between her and YHWH.

The shabbat is meant as a day to rest. Spending it with YHWH and in fellowshipping with others around Him and His Word is a good way to rest.

But, what anyone does or does not do on shabbat is not my concern.
 Quoting: PalmOfDeborah


Zis de shabbos keeping thread no?
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***I plan to guard the integrity of this thread and will moderate accordingly. I will delete all posts and or ban posters who try to derail the purpose of this thread.

The purpose is for genuine inquiries to myself and my brethren here on GLP regarding our rejection of the Religious System of Roman Catholicism and all it Protestant Daughters.

If you have heard the call to "Come Out of Her" and want to heed that call, we would love to discuss your questions with you.

If I do not have the answer to your questions, I will invite others to assist you in your search for the truth of the Word of YHWH and the true Testimony of Yahoshua.

Shalom uvRacha,
Deb


Are you part of an unicorporated (non 501c3) Sabbath keeping home church?

Were you/are you a Seventh Day Adventist?
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No to both questions.
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Interestingly, ancient Maori traditions relate that since antiquity the Maoris have observed ceremonial and dietary laws very similar to those of the ancient Hebrews. They even kept the seventh day "Sabbath" as a day of rest! Also, every 7 times 7 years -- or 49 years -- they observed a Jubilee Year similar to that of the ancient Hebrews." These similarities simply cannot be explained away as "mere coincidence"! The Maoris, like the Hebrews, even had a "sacred month" given over to Harvest thanksgiving, corresponding to the Hebrew month of Tishri and the Festival of Tabernacles.

[link to www.hope-of-israel.org]
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this part here, is just a small part of the picture i have discovered, and im not so sure your preparded to hear the rest, so ive just posted things relateing to your subject, if we went more in depth, to how these commandments came about and moses, then i could reveal more, check out this thread i posted on relateing to moses, very interesting, i do say.....

Thread: Moses to be Savior in Egypt once again

Just checked back to thread, and seen your post, in the link above i talk abit more on the subjects of interest to you, (All the post by the NZ id is me) ild love to talk more indepth with you, and will send an Email, by your recent post it looks as if you are prepared This should be interesting for the both of us :)
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Interestingly, ancient Maori traditions relate that since antiquity the Maoris have observed ceremonial and dietary laws very similar to those of the ancient Hebrews. They even kept the seventh day "Sabbath" as a day of rest! Also, every 7 times 7 years -- or 49 years -- they observed a Jubilee Year similar to that of the ancient Hebrews." These similarities simply cannot be explained away as "mere coincidence"! The Maoris, like the Hebrews, even had a "sacred month" given over to Harvest thanksgiving, corresponding to the Hebrew month of Tishri and the Festival of Tabernacles.

[link to www.hope-of-israel.org]


this part here, is just a small part of the picture i have discovered, and im not so sure your preparded to hear the rest, so ive just posted things relateing to your subject, if we went more in depth, to how these commandments came about and moses, then i could reveal more, check out this thread i posted on relateing to moses, very interesting, i do say.....

Thread: Moses to be Savior in Egypt once again

Just checked back to thread, and seen your post, in the link above i talk abit more on the subjects of interest to you, (All the post by the NZ id is me) ild love to talk more indepth with you, and will send an Email, by your recent post it looks as if you are prepared This should be interesting for the both of us :)
 Quoting: Ra 6914



Me too! Me too! Can you include me in the conversation? My email is in my signature. :)

Shaloha!!!
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The sun just gone down....Happy Sabbath everyone hf
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Interestingly, ancient Maori traditions relate that since antiquity the Maoris have observed ceremonial and dietary laws very similar to those of the ancient Hebrews. They even kept the seventh day "Sabbath" as a day of rest! Also, every 7 times 7 years -- or 49 years -- they observed a Jubilee Year similar to that of the ancient Hebrews." These similarities simply cannot be explained away as "mere coincidence"! The Maoris, like the Hebrews, even had a "sacred month" given over to Harvest thanksgiving, corresponding to the Hebrew month of Tishri and the Festival of Tabernacles.

[link to www.hope-of-israel.org]


this part here, is just a small part of the picture i have discovered, and im not so sure your preparded to hear the rest, so ive just posted things relateing to your subject, if we went more in depth, to how these commandments came about and moses, then i could reveal more, check out this thread i posted on relateing to moses, very interesting, i do say.....

Thread: Moses to be Savior in Egypt once again

Just checked back to thread, and seen your post, in the link above i talk abit more on the subjects of interest to you, (All the post by the NZ id is me) ild love to talk more indepth with you, and will send an Email, by your recent post it looks as if you are prepared This should be interesting for the both of us :)
 Quoting: Ra 6914


Did you post under a different user ID on that thread? If so, which is ID is you?

I look forward to your correspondence and am very interested in what you have to say.
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1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

The evening is the beginning of the 'whole day', darkness was first then Light.
Every evening is the beginning of a new day.
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The sun just gone down....Happy Sabbath everyone hf
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The sun just gone down....Happy Sabbath everyone hf
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Shalom Shabbat to you! hf
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Shabbat Shalom

Question

what would you say to Gaia if she posted on the shabbos


Seriously? I wouldn't say anything. That is between her and YHWH.

The shabbat is meant as a day to rest. Spending it with YHWH and in fellowshipping with others around Him and His Word is a good way to rest.

But, what anyone does or does not do on shabbat is not my concern.


Zis de shabbos keeping thread no?
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Me smells you as luke warm OP and spew you out..

pretend on your part
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Shabbat Shalom

Question

what would you say to Gaia if she posted on the shabbos


Seriously? I wouldn't say anything. That is between her and YHWH.

The shabbat is meant as a day to rest. Spending it with YHWH and in fellowshipping with others around Him and His Word is a good way to rest.

But, what anyone does or does not do on shabbat is not my concern.


Zis de shabbos keeping thread no?


Me smells you as luke warm OP and spew you out..

pretend on your part
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 740874


How so? Because I won't judge Gaia? LOL

Looks like you have plenty of stones in your hands, so have at it.

How very Pharisaical of you.
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Interestingly, ancient Maori traditions relate that since antiquity the Maoris have observed ceremonial and dietary laws very similar to those of the ancient Hebrews. They even kept the seventh day "Sabbath" as a day of rest! Also, every 7 times 7 years -- or 49 years -- they observed a Jubilee Year similar to that of the ancient Hebrews." These similarities simply cannot be explained away as "mere coincidence"! The Maoris, like the Hebrews, even had a "sacred month" given over to Harvest thanksgiving, corresponding to the Hebrew month of Tishri and the Festival of Tabernacles.

[link to www.hope-of-israel.org]


this part here, is just a small part of the picture i have discovered, and im not so sure your preparded to hear the rest, so ive just posted things relateing to your subject, if we went more in depth, to how these commandments came about and moses, then i could reveal more, check out this thread i posted on relateing to moses, very interesting, i do say.....

Thread: Moses to be Savior in Egypt once again

Just checked back to thread, and seen your post, in the link above i talk abit more on the subjects of interest to you, (All the post by the NZ id is me) ild love to talk more indepth with you, and will send an Email, by your recent post it looks as if you are prepared This should be interesting for the both of us :)



Me too! Me too! Can you include me in the conversation? My email is in my signature. :)

Shaloha!!!
 Quoting: Rev. Mother Nene


Ok, will do

My email is jartez1(at)xtra(dot)co(dot)nz

I got to be somewhere else at the moment, but ill be back latter and will send emails then :).
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Did you post under a different user ID on that thread? If so, which is ID is you?

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All the NZ IDs are me
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Did you post under a different user ID on that thread? If so, which is ID is you?



All the NZ IDs are me
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OK...Thanks!
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Did you post under a different user ID on that thread? If so, which is ID is you?



All the NZ IDs are me
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I disconect my internet alot, so every time i connect back in, it gives me a new number, looking at my current id, its only got 4 numbers, strange......
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Did you post under a different user ID on that thread? If so, which is ID is you?



All the NZ IDs are me


I disconect my internet alot, so every time i connect back in, it gives me a new number, looking at my current id, its only got 4 numbers, strange......
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Yes....gives the illusion that you are one of GLPs "Ancients".
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Shabbat Shalom

Question

what would you say to Gaia if she posted on the shabbos


Seriously? I wouldn't say anything. That is between her and YHWH.

The shabbat is meant as a day to rest. Spending it with YHWH and in fellowshipping with others around Him and His Word is a good way to rest.

But, what anyone does or does not do on shabbat is not my concern.


Zis de shabbos keeping thread no?


Me smells you as luke warm OP and spew you out..

pretend on your part


How so? Because I won't judge Gaia? LOL

Looks like you have plenty of stones in your hands, so have at it.

How very Pharisaical of you.
 Quoting: PalmOfDeborah


Look ..If you're going to say "I AM SABBATH LADY"

Then you better do more than just talk some BS


Don't talk about it...be about it!

I think you've been exposed as the bs artist that you are
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Shabbat Shalom

Question

what would you say to Gaia if she posted on the shabbos


Seriously? I wouldn't say anything. That is between her and YHWH.

The shabbat is meant as a day to rest. Spending it with YHWH and in fellowshipping with others around Him and His Word is a good way to rest.

But, what anyone does or does not do on shabbat is not my concern.


Zis de shabbos keeping thread no?


Me smells you as luke warm OP and spew you out..

pretend on your part


How so? Because I won't judge Gaia? LOL

Looks like you have plenty of stones in your hands, so have at it.

How very Pharisaical of you.


Look ..If you're going to say "I AM SABBATH LADY"

Then you better do more than just talk some BS


Don't talk about it...be about it!

I think you've been exposed as the bs artist that you are
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Oh, you think I follow the Pharisaical rendering of how to keep Sabbath. Your mistake.

LOL. Didn't say "I am Sabbath Lady". Don't even know what that means really.

Shabbat Shalom anyway.
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So, Rev. Stargazer who used to have a mermaid in a martini glass as her avatar has now morphed into Rev. Mother nene....

Okay, I get it. But I do recall your coming around and seemingly embracing Christ on a basic level. Yet, wasn't that back when your son/daughter had the brain surgery?

No atheists in fox-holes, eh?
But once the shells stop flying, all promises made in the "heat of the moment" are off?

I hope your child is doing well these days.


Nothing about me has changed. 26+ years Born-Again. Nothing "new" or "improved"; God just keeps moving me along.


Only One Way.
Christ Jesus.

If your buddy back-hand deborah thinks there is something to all her pseudo judaic and aramaic "worship" then that is because she is running on the fumes of her "belief".

The Born-Again Knows and has Seen and Experienced.
Belief is not in their vocabulary.
If you KNOW God, then your belief system is superceded by Knowing...

If you don't Know HIM, then you are not among "the very elect". In these Final Moments, only "the very elect" who Know God and Dwell Within HIM are not victims of deception and deceit.

Think that your rituals and vocabulary matter, then your carnality is showing. God Transforms the lives of HIS Born-Agains and a heart Of HIS Flesh is called upon only to witness not lead or inform. Born-Again witness is meant to provoke and stimulate, to produce contemplation Of-HIM. You begin to think "if others Know HIM, perhaps there is something to what they say".

Nothing matters in the course of your life but your decision to manifest your heart Unto The Father. IF HE put Knowledge of WHO Jesus IS upon your heart, then you got the invitation to The Wedding Feast. Up to you if you act upon it and accept; and then show up... Recall the parable, none who were invited showed up, so HIS Servants found strangers in the streets who were willing to honor HIM and HIS Son....

Embracing the judaic is to embrace them who spurned the King... Not something a Born-Again would intend or need to do....


But gosh, you have loads of fun and feel all special about how you love God, but aren't going to identify yourself as Christian.... It suits your carnality to a Tee.
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So, Rev. Stargazer who used to have a mermaid in a martini glass as her avatar has now morphed into Rev. Mother nene....

Okay, I get it. But I do recall your coming around and seemingly embracing Christ on a basic level. Yet, wasn't that back when your son/daughter had the brain surgery?

No atheists in fox-holes, eh?
But once the shells stop flying, all promises made in the "heat of the moment" are off?

I hope your child is doing well these days.


Nothing about me has changed. 26+ years Born-Again. Nothing "new" or "improved"; God just keeps moving me along.


Only One Way.
Christ Jesus.

If your buddy back-hand deborah thinks there is something to all her pseudo judaic and aramaic "worship" then that is because she is running on the fumes of her "belief".

The Born-Again Knows and has Seen and Experienced.
Belief is not in their vocabulary.
If you KNOW God, then your belief system is superceded by Knowing...

If you don't Know HIM, then you are not among "the very elect". In these Final Moments, only "the very elect" who Know God and Dwell Within HIM are not victims of deception and deceit.

Think that your rituals and vocabulary matter, then your carnality is showing. God Transforms the lives of HIS Born-Agains and a heart Of HIS Flesh is called upon only to witness not lead or inform. Born-Again witness is meant to provoke and stimulate, to produce contemplation Of-HIM. You begin to think "if others Know HIM, perhaps there is something to what they say".

Nothing matters in the course of your life but your decision to manifest your heart Unto The Father. IF HE put Knowledge of WHO Jesus IS upon your heart, then you got the invitation to The Wedding Feast. Up to you if you act upon it and accept; and then show up... Recall the parable, none who were invited showed up, so HIS Servants found strangers in the streets who were willing to honor HIM and HIS Son....

Embracing the judaic is to embrace them who spurned the King... Not something a Born-Again would intend or need to do....


But gosh, you have loads of fun and feel all special about how you love God, but aren't going to identify yourself as Christian.... It suits your carnality to a Tee.
 Quoting: Lester


Keep going. You make my point AGAINST your religiosity for me.

Ruckmanite? I'm right, arent' I? If not, you would really like his material.
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Jesus actually Witnesses on those who Know HIM and manifested their hearts in Matt 13 verses 11-17....

The chapter begins with HIM Telling The Parable of The Sower.
In verse 10, The Apostles ask, "Why do YOU Teach in parables"?
Then HE is Extremely Specific.
Not as you might suppose.
Holy Spirit Guided me to this passage in our Homechurch about 5 years ago, while we were discussing parables... Always seemed to us that HE Taught that way to enhance and be more clear. Just because HE IS Clear to us did not mean HIS Intent was to be same to others....


10. And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

11. He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12. For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.


13. Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.


14. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15. For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
16. But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
17. For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.



I will tell you that if you think you are doing God's Will, while you deny Christianity that you are simply giving evidence that you cannot hear with your heart. Such marks a failed vessel.

All your special mumbo-jumbo judeo emphasized stuff is just false. Your heart has failed you, and HIM.

Like the Fig Tree, HE Cursed for showing promise of bearing fruit, but was barren when he approached; that day on the way into Bethany... Think God didn't KNOW there was no fruit there? Yet, HE Still Came and beheld the situation...


Barren of fruit, Barren of witness. All the same.
Lots of leaves and great looking from a distance, but nothing there once you examine it...

Anyway, you play at your religion all you want. All prior to HIS Second Coming is about the very elect's sake anyway. Pity there are so few... Yet, God's Will IS Always PERFECT!
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Lester, Lester, Lester...

Let me share the Scripture of the day with you for your consideration as you continue...


2Peter 1:5 And for this reason do your utmost to add to your belief uprightness, to uprightness knowledge,
2Peter 1:6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control endurance, to endurance reverence,
2Peter 1:7 to reverence brotherly affection, and to brotherly affection love.
2Peter 1:8 For if these are in you and increase, they cause you to be neither inactive nor without fruit in the knowledge of our Master YHSWH Messiah.
2Peter 1:9 For he in whom these are not present is blind, being shortsighted, and has forgotten that he has been cleansed from his old sins.

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So, Rev. Stargazer who used to have a mermaid in a martini glass as her avatar has now morphed into Rev. Mother nene....

Okay, I get it. But I do recall your coming around and seemingly embracing Christ on a basic level. Yet, wasn't that back when your son/daughter had the brain surgery?

No atheists in fox-holes, eh?
But once the shells stop flying, all promises made in the "heat of the moment" are off?

I hope your child is doing well these days.


Nothing about me has changed. 26+ years Born-Again. Nothing "new" or "improved"; God just keeps moving me along.


Only One Way.
Christ Jesus.

If your buddy back-hand deborah thinks there is something to all her pseudo judaic and aramaic "worship" then that is because she is running on the fumes of her "belief".

The Born-Again Knows and has Seen and Experienced.
Belief is not in their vocabulary.
If you KNOW God, then your belief system is superceded by Knowing...

If you don't Know HIM, then you are not among "the very elect". In these Final Moments, only "the very elect" who Know God and Dwell Within HIM are not victims of deception and deceit.

Think that your rituals and vocabulary matter, then your carnality is showing. God Transforms the lives of HIS Born-Agains and a heart Of HIS Flesh is called upon only to witness not lead or inform. Born-Again witness is meant to provoke and stimulate, to produce contemplation Of-HIM. You begin to think "if others Know HIM, perhaps there is something to what they say".

Nothing matters in the course of your life but your decision to manifest your heart Unto The Father. IF HE put Knowledge of WHO Jesus IS upon your heart, then you got the invitation to The Wedding Feast. Up to you if you act upon it and accept; and then show up... Recall the parable, none who were invited showed up, so HIS Servants found strangers in the streets who were willing to honor HIM and HIS Son....

Embracing the judaic is to embrace them who spurned the King... Not something a Born-Again would intend or need to do....


But gosh, you have loads of fun and feel all special about how you love God, but aren't going to identify yourself as Christian.... It suits your carnality to a Tee.
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Lester, you are just a few steps behind the rest of us on our journey.. Watch your tongue .. it is a lethal weapon. Words spoken (written) cannot be taken back.
Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami

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Jesus actually Witnesses on those who Know HIM and manifested their hearts in Matt 13 verses 11-17....

The chapter begins with HIM Telling The Parable of The Sower.
In verse 10, The Apostles ask, "Why do YOU Teach in parables"?
Then HE is Extremely Specific.
Not as you might suppose.
Holy Spirit Guided me to this passage in our Homechurch about 5 years ago, while we were discussing parables... Always seemed to us that HE Taught that way to enhance and be more clear. Just because HE IS Clear to us did not mean HIS Intent was to be same to others....


10. And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

11. He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12. For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.


13. Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.


14. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15. For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
16. But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
17. For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.



I will tell you that if you think you are doing God's Will, while you deny Christianity that you are simply giving evidence that you cannot hear with your heart. Such marks a failed vessel.

All your special mumbo-jumbo judeo emphasized stuff is just false. Your heart has failed you, and HIM.

Like the Fig Tree, HE Cursed for showing promise of bearing fruit, but was barren when he approached; that day on the way into Bethany... Think God didn't KNOW there was no fruit there? Yet, HE Still Came and beheld the situation...


Barren of fruit, Barren of witness. All the same.
Lots of leaves and great looking from a distance, but nothing there once you examine it...

Anyway, you play at your religion all you want. All prior to HIS Second Coming is about the very elect's sake anyway. Pity there are so few... Yet, God's Will IS Always PERFECT!
 Quoting: Lester


Denying "christianity" as invented by Rome?

Judeo mumbo-jumbo as compared to your Greek?

MY religion? chuckle.

One last time, did you have a legitimate question or contribution to make, Lester? You are so full of hate. Ruckmanite, right?
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Keep going. You make my point AGAINST your religiosity for me.

Ruckmanite? I'm right, arent' I? If not, you would really like his material.
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Yet, you offer no witness of what your point is?
You refuse to identify yourself as Christian.


Religiosity? Only religion I ever embraced was roman catholicism, and I was very studied; yet once Born-Again, God never moved my heart to return, or formally join another church...

What you discern as "religion" I witness is like John Testifies in First Epistle ch 2:20-27:

18. Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
19. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.


20. But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
21. I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.


22. Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24. Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25. And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26. These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.


27. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.


There is no religion in Born-Agains. God has Regenerated their lives and Guides them. Verses 20-21 and 27 make that doubly clear. I witness it continually.

Yet, you deny God's Banner To The World and cannot acknowledge Christianity. Your focus is therefore anti-Christ because you give false-witness and foment misunderstanding and confusion. You have not "continued with us" if you ever were Born-Again.. Sad, you seem to have a very committed fervor to your beliefs. Pity you cannot Trust God Fully and allow HIM to Give you HIS New Heart, by which your Anointment Of The Holy One would Witness and Reveal All things...
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Lester, I hope you realize that Yahoshua was Jewish, His disciples were Jewish and all His initial followers were Jewish. It wasn't until Peter's meeting with Cornelius that Gentiles began being grafted into Israel. Through out history, there have been Jewish believers in Yahoshua the Messiah. So, to say that all Jews, past and present have been rejected because they rejected the Messiah, makes no sense and is totally nonscriptural.

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Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
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