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The Great Vitamin D conspiriacy | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 682509  United Kingdom05/26/2009 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if vitamin A really does block vitamin D i would be really relaly pissed off. Because i know i searched the entire store for just vitamin D on its own, and it does not exist. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 688005  United States05/26/2009 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | been taking vitamin d3 50ug daily since mid-late last year. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 688341did you also know op, sun created vitamin d can take up to 48 hrs to be available to the body to use and in this time if the skin is washed the vitamin d is lost. I would try it if I was deficient and couldn't raise my levels but it doesn't make sense. How could a chemical reaction get washed off? And wouldn't sweat wash it off anyway. Don't know too many people who go out in the sun who don't wash later. And who did this study? I do know that for centuries people only washed on Saturday nights just washing the essential parts until then. Anyway, I need to see facts. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 688005 United States05/26/2009 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, get this. Who to believe. Shocking Update -- Sunshine Can Actually Decrease Your Vitamin D Levels [link to articles.mercola.com] |
| The Monk User ID: 515245 United States05/26/2009 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The pharmaceutical industry knows, that by keeping vitamin D out of your diet, they can keep selling you cold remedies and flu remedies, which treat the symptoms. Quoting: Survivor X 657385They attack any study, that says vitamin can prevent the flu. Then they sell it back to you as relenza, and tamiflu for how much? One hundred and ninety nine dollars US. for tamiflu, for TEN capsules. Such incredible evil, surprises even me, and you would think I would be used to it by now. I take it you never worked in business on a management/executive level. This goes on in all businesses, from used car lots to pharmaceuticals, there is always a scam going on, large or small. Not to make fun of you, but unfortunately it's not a conspiracy, it's just business in a greedy world. lol. That's why capitalism will never really be the ultimate answer to society's needs. Capitalism will always eventually break loose and run off a cliff like a manic ADD kid. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 653099 United States05/26/2009 07:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't wear sunscreen and spend 20 or minutes in the sun, it helps. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 666276Gave up sunscreen a couple years ago, that crap is dangerous. yeah if your just in the sun for 20 mins. If you work out in the sun every day..it wouldnt be a bad idea to use a little sun block unless you like skin cancer Sun block traps toxins in the skin especially when applied liberally and often. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 679866 United States05/26/2009 07:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do I look 53? Quoting: Douggie[link to img41.imageshack.us] (stop looking at my hairy nipples, I shaved them this morning) LMAO, I wasnt looking at your nipples. I was laughing because youre trying to flex your muscles. Admittingly, Although this is only an admission to satisfy the post, you look pretty fit for 53. Could lose a little around the waiste. Oh whatever. The man looks damn good. He's a man, not a woman. That said OP, I still think your thread is missing some vital facts. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 688005 United States05/26/2009 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 688341 United Kingdom05/26/2009 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | my vitamin suppliment says, 7500i.u. 281%vitamin A - 400 i.u. 200% vitamin D (ingredients list D2) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 682509if vitamin A really does block vitamin D i would be really relaly pissed off. Because i know i searched the entire store for just vitamin D on its own, and it does not exist. D2 ALSO REDUCES THE EFFECTS OF D3 AND VIT D OBTAINED VIA SUNLIGHT. DO NOT USE. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 688341 United Kingdom05/26/2009 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | been taking vitamin d3 50ug daily since mid-late last year. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 688005did you also know op, sun created vitamin d can take up to 48 hrs to be available to the body to use and in this time if the skin is washed the vitamin d is lost. I would try it if I was deficient and couldn't raise my levels but it doesn't make sense. How could a chemical reaction get washed off? And wouldn't sweat wash it off anyway. Don't know too many people who go out in the sun who don't wash later. And who did this study? I do know that for centuries people only washed on Saturday nights just washing the essential parts until then. Anyway, I need to see facts. Because new evidence shows it takes up to 48 hours before you absorb the majority of the vitamin D that was generated by exposing your skin to the sun! Therefore, if you shower with soap, you will simply wash away much of the vitamin D3 your skin generated, and decrease the benefits of your sun exposure. So to optimize your vitamin D level, you need to delay washing your body with soap for about two full days after sun exposure. [link to articles.mercola.com] |
Douggie
 User ID: 688364 United States05/26/2009 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ok what about this....wally world sells vitamine D...seemingly got tons of it now. vitamine D3 2000IU D3 Cholecalciferol 2000 IU Calcium 111Mg It also contains Dicalcium phosphate (Vitamine D3) Vegetable stearte Crosscarmellose It the spring valley brand. Any problems with this? They have the power to create reality I could explain it better but I would need charts, graphs and an easel. By the way....which ones pink? |
| ~nameless~
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 688341 United Kingdom05/26/2009 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 688341 United Kingdom05/26/2009 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ok what about this....wally world sells vitamine D...seemingly got tons of it now. Quoting: Douggievitamine D3 2000IU D3 Cholecalciferol 2000 IU Calcium 111Mg It also contains Dicalcium phosphate (Vitamine D3) Vegetable stearte Crosscarmellose It the spring valley brand. Any problems with this? looks good, dont forget to properly absord d3 you need vit k too. |
| GREY LENSMAN
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| SuperPan®
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1456554 United States04/01/2012 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ok what about this....wally world sells vitamine D...seemingly got tons of it now. Quoting: Douggie vitamine D3 2000IU D3 Cholecalciferol 2000 IU Calcium 111Mg It also contains Dicalcium phosphate (Vitamine D3) Vegetable stearte Crosscarmellose It the spring valley brand. Any problems with this? Was turned off by the additives. Found pure D w/ olive oil drops to be the best, 4 drops for my wife and I, one each for the kids. Doc mentioned to us that the USDA recommended daily intake was just enough to stave off rickets and well below what the body should be getting. |
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Traveler In The Matrix User ID: 1460582 United States04/01/2012 11:51 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I take 15,000 IU's of D3 every morning and have not been sick all winter. If I feel something coming on, I dump an extra 15,000 IU's and usually shake it within 24 hours. I would agree that this is the most under rated vitamin that there is and that's why people don't get sick during the summer and why doctor's always want to give you shit to make you feel better for a short time. I've never had a flu shot that prevented me from getting sick. First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. ~ Mahatma Gandhi "Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—forever." ~ George Orwell "The exact level of tyranny that you're going to live under, is the level of tyranny you put up with." ~Thomas Jefferson "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. ~ Thomas Jefferson |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1456554 United States04/01/2012 11:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12974422 United States04/02/2012 12:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I used to take 5,000UI daily only, but a neighbor who's a dentist talked me into adding the weekly megadose. We argued over the study showing the danger of excess calcium, we argued over the very few cases of overdose where excess calcium in the blood is the defining indication. Finally, he presented his own bloodwork and offered to test mine. He convinced me of the safety, but I still take K2 for insurance ;) He uses it in his practice on patients, along with vitamin C, prior to extensive dental work where patients have gum infections, and/or cysts. I should also add that he takes the above, but with a 50,000UI weekly dose instead. Remember, vitamin C has a synergistic effects with D. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13640336 United States04/02/2012 12:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems to be the 'IN' thing to prescribe anymore.Every time me or my girls go to the doctor its a Vit D prescription for the 50,000 IU taken once weekly for 4 to 6 weeks.Go to the doctor every six months and each time we are all low and get the same thing over and over.At least 3 years now.Mentioned it to my chiropractor and he said Oh yeah every one is suppose to be low on Vit D now.A lot of my patients mention getting it prescribed.Funny I have been going for regular visits for years and never had a Vit D script till lately.Girls 16 and 19 and the same with them.We get plenty of sunshine,they do sports etc so I am about ready to call BS on it. |
| Veresanctus
User ID: 13458679 United States04/02/2012 12:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just read the articles about Vitamin A and D from this site and you will learn EVERYTHING you need to know... [link to www.westonaprice.org] GET SAVED: Thread: Are you SAVED from DAMNATION? "For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10801032 United States04/02/2012 12:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have ONLY seen the TIP of the 'iceberg' ! Quoting: Eagle # 1 683420 In the EARLY 1930s, when vitamines were first being recognized/discovered, it was found that vitamine D helped with a "disease" called rickets ( actually from lack of D ). They decided to force milk companies to add vitamine D to milk to stop 'rickets', or poor bone formation in children. HOWEVER, at the time they did NOT KNOW there were FOUR D vitamines, D1, D2, D3 and D4. By shere accident (?) they picked D3 to add to milk, and it is the ONLY D vitamine that humans CAN'T absorb into their bodies. It has NEVER BEEN CHANGED ! Ask you local dairy man like I did, where I have bought milk for 44 YEARS; he knows NOTHING about which D vitamine goes into his milk; ONLY that it does ! The 'Good Old Boys Science Group' just NEVER admits a MISTAKE OR, changes it when confronted ! Check it out. Prove me WRONG ! Eagle Illogical. You're saying they knew a type of Vitamin D helped strengthen bones, they were able to prove it with test... then they unknowingly picked another type to put in milk? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1464459 United States04/02/2012 05:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems to be the 'IN' thing to prescribe anymore.Every time me or my girls go to the doctor its a Vit D prescription for the 50,000 IU taken once weekly for 4 to 6 weeks.Go to the doctor every six months and each time we are all low and get the same thing over and over.At least 3 years now.Mentioned it to my chiropractor and he said Oh yeah every one is suppose to be low on Vit D now.A lot of my patients mention getting it prescribed.Funny I have been going for regular visits for years and never had a Vit D script till lately.Girls 16 and 19 and the same with them.We get plenty of sunshine,they do sports etc so I am about ready to call BS on it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13640336 The reason all the docs are wanting to prescribe it now is that the type they are prescribing is D2 NOT D3 and D2 you can get via a prescription. Since docs get kickbacks and what not from handing out scripts and since Vitamin D (a hormone actually not a vitamin) has been in the news over the last several years they can get away with it. But don't go for it...use D3. It's not BS. And to insure if you are getting enough is easy enough...just take a blood test. It only costs about $60. Then you can be sure. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2121571  Australia04/02/2012 06:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just drink lots of milk Quoting: Anonymous Coward 666276One day of sunshine gives you 20,000 iu of vitamn D. One glass of milk, gives you 100 iu. So how many glasses of milk do you need to drink to get your normal healthy day in the sun level of vitamin D? 20,000 / 100 you need to drink 200 glasses of milk per day. You will die by noon, from that much milk, before you get to 30 glasses. And milk is really really not good for you at all. It is contaminated by all sorts of chemicals and resistant bacteria. They have messed with cows, until the cows came home with hormones and antibiotics. Who says you need 20K a day? The post above yours states 200-400. |
| Dynamitrios
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13675523  Ireland04/02/2012 06:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're probably right about the vitamin D thing. But I'm not sure about the cods and flu bit. I always caught colds in London, but since I've moved to Ireland, which is much colder and wetter, I haven't had a single cold. It's quite remote here, so I'd say there are so many people getting colds because there are just too many people in crowded cities passing germs to each other. Simple as. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1464459 United States04/02/2012 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just drink lots of milk Quoting: Anonymous Coward 666276One day of sunshine gives you 20,000 iu of vitamn D. One glass of milk, gives you 100 iu. So how many glasses of milk do you need to drink to get your normal healthy day in the sun level of vitamin D? 20,000 / 100 you need to drink 200 glasses of milk per day. You will die by noon, from that much milk, before you get to 30 glasses. And milk is really really not good for you at all. It is contaminated by all sorts of chemicals and resistant bacteria. They have messed with cows, until the cows came home with hormones and antibiotics. Who says you need 20K a day? Because that is old, outdated info...and is only enough to keep you from getting rickets. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1464459 United States04/02/2012 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just drink lots of milk Quoting: Anonymous Coward 666276One day of sunshine gives you 20,000 iu of vitamn D. One glass of milk, gives you 100 iu. So how many glasses of milk do you need to drink to get your normal healthy day in the sun level of vitamin D? 20,000 / 100 you need to drink 200 glasses of milk per day. You will die by noon, from that much milk, before you get to 30 glasses. And milk is really really not good for you at all. It is contaminated by all sorts of chemicals and resistant bacteria. They have messed with cows, until the cows came home with hormones and antibiotics. Who says you need 20K a day? The post above yours states 200-400. Lets try this again.... Because that is old, outdated info...and is only enough to keep you from getting rickets. |
