The Great Vitamin D conspiriacy

thanks X

i think the best kind is cod liver oil

If you read the research, vitamin D does a lot more than prevent the flu and colds. It's probably the single most essential vitamin supplement.

Well I went looking today, and could not find just plain old fashioned natural cod liver oil.

I suppose if you tried to find it, they would feed you some bs that it is contaminated with mercury, and so it has to be processed, and while we are processing it, we kick up the vitamin A, and take out most of the vitamin D.

Did you know, that beta-carotene, Vitamn A, INCREASES your risk of lung cancer?

"a lung cancer chemoprevention study that provided subjects with supplements of 30 mg beta-carotene and 25,000 IU retinyl palmitate (a form of vitamin A) or a placebo. This study was stopped after researchers discovered that subjects receiving beta-carotene had a 46% higher risk of dying from lung cancer [36-37]."

saved to my "flu favs"

i take vitamin D, preaching to the choir here, but thanks!

IMO: If you take a vitamin D supplement, it needs to be D-3, and probably way more than the 400 IU "recommended dose".

My experience: My doctor tested me 14 months ago, and while 30 something is normal, I was 19. She put me on 50,000 IU once a week for 12 weeks, then I continued with 1,000 or 2,000 IU virtually every day for a year, but wasn't able to get much sunshine. After a year, I'd dropped to 16!

So now I'm taking the Carlson's drops, 6,000 IU/day as recommended by a natural pharmacist, and will be retested in another month. It's still hard to get much sun with my work schedule, but I'm trying to get out sometime each day. (And I am over 50.)

You have ONLY seen the TIP of the 'iceberg' !

In the EARLY 1930s, when vitamines were first being recognized/discovered, it was found that vitamine D helped with a "disease" called rickets ( actually from lack of D ).

They decided to force milk companies to add vitamine D to milk to stop 'rickets', or poor bone formation in children.

HOWEVER, at the time they did NOT KNOW there were FOUR D vitamines, D1, D2, D3 and D4. By shere accident (?) they picked D3 to add to milk, and it is the ONLY D vitamine that humans CAN'T absorb into their bodies.

It has NEVER BEEN CHANGED ! Ask you local dairy man like I did, where I have bought milk for 44 YEARS; he knows NOTHING about which D vitamine goes into his milk; ONLY that it does !

The 'Good Old Boys Science Group' just NEVER admits a MISTAKE OR, changes it when confronted !

Check it out. Prove me WRONG !


Eagle

just drink lots of milk

Don't wear sunscreen and spend 20 or minutes in the sun, it helps.

Gave up sunscreen a couple years ago, that crap is dangerous.

and i dont have to worry about it i live in sunny california, and get enough sun. Plus i drink a gallon of milk every week

beat that vitamin d tards!

yeah if your just in the sun for 20 mins. If you work out in the sun every day..it wouldnt be a bad idea to use a little sun block

unless you like skin cancer

yeah if your just in the sun for 20 mins. If you work out in the sun every day..it wouldnt be a bad idea to use a little sun block

unless you like skin cancer

Icelandic fish oils:

[link to www.lysi.eu]

Thanks Eagle, i believe you :)

Use to work in the sun all day everyday for years, before sunscreen became a big deal, I'm a green-eyed, blond, no skin cancer here.

great post ! thanks op

Last Edited by Thoughts Faux Fodder on 05/20/2009 10:38 PM

NOT a Doctor OR Nutritionist!!!

How can I make the most of Vitamin D?
Getting your daily recommended dosage of vitamin D is relatively easy. Just 10-15 minutes of daily sunlight can provide you with the needed supply of this vitamin. People under the age of 50 should get 200-400 IU's of vitamin D per day. If you're over 50 you should strive for 400-600 IU's per day and those over 70 should be getting about 800 IU's.


Table 2: Adequate Intakes (AIs) for Vitamin D [5]
Age Children Men Women Pregnancy Lactation
Birth to 13 years 5 mcg
(200 IU)
14-18 years 5 mcg
(200 IU) 5 mcg
(200 IU) 5 mcg
(200 IU) 5 mcg
(200 IU)
19-50 years 5 mcg
(200 IU) 5 mcg
(200 IU) 5 mcg
(200 IU) 5 mcg
(200 IU)
51-70 years 10 mcg
(400 IU) 10 mcg
(400 IU)
71+ years 15 mcg
(600 IU) 15 mcg
(600 IU)


[link to users.rcn.com]



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One day of sunshine gives you 20,000 iu of vitamn D.

One glass of milk, gives you 100 iu.

So how many glasses of milk do you need to drink to get your normal healthy day in the sun level of vitamin D?

20,000 / 100 you need to drink 200 glasses of milk per day.

You will die by noon, from that much milk, before you get to 30 glasses.

And milk is really really not good for you at all.

It is contaminated by all sorts of chemicals and resistant bacteria.

They have messed with cows, until the cows came home with hormones and antibiotics.

Great thread OP. Thanks

Have you had your level tested?

Go and do it and then call us D tards.

well, gallon of milk is bad for your liver. livers don't like cholesterol. It's just another type of alcohol to deal with.

plus a gallon of milk will only give you about a 1000IU. meanwhile just half an hour in the sun gives you at least 15,000IU.

I stocked on solar drops.

same thing w/the multivitamins that have both calcium and iron... calcium blocks most of the iron absorption...

they fortify breakfast cereal with iron, but when you dump the milk on it, the calcium in the milk (and dairy in general, regardless of the calcium in it) blocks the iron absorption to a great degree.

[link to health.rutgers.edu]

that's not always true, i live in Florida and despite my best efforts i am chronically d deficient - i go get my levels checked monthly and they are barely budging- i DO NOT drink milk but get lots of time in the sun,and take D supplements both prescription and non. I am just about ready to break down and buy one of those lights to see if that will help....i just think my body does not create/absorb/utilize D very well for some reason.

Last Edited by Thoughts Faux Fodder on 05/20/2009 10:47 PM

I live in Canada. Last year we moved even more north (NB to AB). I had all sorts of random pains so doctor tested my blood. She said I had no Vit D in my system. So I started to take 5000 iu a day for a month...and now I take 2000 everyday. No more weird random pains. I also take it to help with my depression.

I also use a light...but for depression in the winter. Don't know if it makes Vit D or not. Might be a different sort of light tho. Anyway I like my light...helps a lot.

... yeah, lol... so there!.... and hey, no skin cancer here either, and I do work out in that ol' dear dear Sun every day... hell-o, lol, city walkin' mailman here... and, most of me youth was spent as a surfer/beach bum to the max too. I'm also a blue eyed blond... and... to boot... a devout Sun gazer since '96 as well.

"One small study of nine healthy individuals in Sweden found that the amount of vitamin A in one serving of liver may impair the ability of vitamin D to promote calcium absorption [43]. To further test the association between excess dietary intakes of vitamin A and increased risk for hip fractures,"

"A longitudinal study in more than 2,000 Swedish men compared blood levels of retinol to the incidence of fractures in men. The investigators found that the risk of fractures was greatest in men with the highest blood levels of retinol (more than 75 mcg per deciliter [dL]). Men with blood retinol levels in the 99th percentile (greater than 103 mcg per dL) had an overall risk of fracture that exceeded the risk among men with lower levels of retinol by a factor of seven [46]. High vitamin A intake, "

So here is your typical multi vitamin...
"Our "Best Bites" have at least 400 mcg of folic acid, 400 IU of vitamin D, 30 IU of vitamin E, 100 mg of magnesium, 15 mg of zinc, 2 mg of copper, and 25 mcg of chromium. They also have no more than 500 mg of phosphorus, 18 mg of iron, 15,000 IU of beta-carotene, or 75 mg of vitamin B-6. The number of pills you have to take every day is in parentheses following each product's name."

400 iu of vitmain D, is not enough vitamin D, you get 20,000 iu from one day of sunshine.

And do you see how much cancer causing beta-carotene is in there?

Studies which show you need more vitamin D have been attacked.

But below the governments recommendation for supplements, they state, recent studies have shown these levels may not be high enough, and the maximum allowable dosage may be too low.

The pharmaceutical companies want you to get sick. That is how they make their living. The pressure the industry and question all results, and have their tobacco style puppets in the medical profession, to dispute all results that show, vitamin D needs to be increased.

All the while promoting vitamin A which blocks vitamin D.

also, listen to Dr. Mercola. he has nice tanning beds and vitamin D spray for sale.

You can "overdose" on vitamin D and cause some fairly nasty health issues.



Whenever I come across people purporting a "natural cure" I always keep this one in mind.




[link to www.denvernaturopathic.com]


This was a "natural cure" that was in most homes between 1915-1930



What finally convinced the public that this was not healthy thing to do was when several individual using it HAD THEIR JAWS ROT AWAY AND FALL OFF....they went on a national tour to towns across the nation to show people how dangerous it was.