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IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts

 
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*or fly remote control mil-jets full of jetfuel and a penetrator into the data servers

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Baikonur has been a major part of Russia's contribution to the International Space Station (ISS), as it is the only spaceport from which Russian missions to the ISS are launched.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

So how with this affect ISS supply and personnel transport missions?

Can SpaceX pick up the slack if Baikanour is shut down?
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That’s what I was wondering.

Baikonur Cismodrome is the only ISS shuttle launch facility that Russia has, isn’t it?
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No. There are 2 more spaceports.
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Specifically, which ones have launched ISS shuttle and resupply missions?
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And you don't have to know that.
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That’s what I was wondering.

Baikonur Cismodrome is the only ISS shuttle launch facility that Russia has, isn’t it?
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No. There are 2 more spaceports.
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Specifically, which ones have launched ISS shuttle and resupply missions?
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And you don't have to know that.
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It’s public knowledge, Comrade.
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That’s what I was wondering.

Baikonur Cismodrome is the only ISS shuttle launch facility that Russia has, isn’t it?
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No. There are 2 more spaceports.
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Specifically, which ones have launched ISS shuttle and resupply missions?
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OK, found it.

Baikanur is the only Russian cosmodrome that does this.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

If they don’t pay their debts and get back to operating those at Baikanur, this might be a significant problem for the space station.

But who knows. Russia said they were bailing on it, so maybe that’s the plan.

Extortion maybe?
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I think Kaz. is working with the US and this is an act of war.
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Yes 100%. No one is talking about Kazakhstan. Largest border with Russia. Also borders China.
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Astana is the HQ for the Dividers and Oath Dodgers Ounion.
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They are just trying to make Russia pay them. Like a Landlord with a deadbeat tennant.
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I guess this also puts a end to Russia’s copy of the US space shuttle which still hasn’t gotten off the ground.

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Doubt Russia is going broke like america

Why are no Russian banks collapsing?
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On March 7th, 2023, Kazakhstan seized control of the Biaterek launch complex at the Baikonur Cosmodrome – Russia’s main launch site since 1955. According to statements by KZ24 News and The Moscow Times, the Kakazh government has impounded Russian assets at the Center for Utilization of Ground-based Space Infrastructure (TsENKI), a subsidiary of Roscosmos. It is also preventing Russian officials from leaving the country or liquidating Roscosmos assets. This incident is another example of how Russia’s space program is suffering collateral damage from the war in Ukraine.

The decision was made because the Russian State company failed to pay its debts to the Kazakh government, which are now over 13.5 billion tenges (2.258 billion rubles; $29.7 million). This debt is part of the “Baiterek” program, a Kazakh-Russian joint venture related to the development of the Soyuz-5 booster. This program was created in 2005 to speed the transition from launch vehicles that rely on highly-toxic unsymmetric dimethylhydrazine (UDMH) – aka. “heptyl” fuel (C2H8N2) – and adopting ecologically safe propellants and launch practices.

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well, Kazakhstan have a death wish
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I bet they know a thing or two about magrav propulsion there.
Russia has another place to launch no doubt.
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No. There are 2 more spaceports.
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Specifically, which ones have launched ISS shuttle and resupply missions?
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And you don't have to know that.
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It’s public knowledge, Comrade.
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Then why pointless questions?
It was just that Baikonur was more convenient, because it is further south.
But it is outdated.
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On March 7th, 2023, Kazakhstan seized control of the Biaterek launch complex at the Baikonur Cosmodrome – Russia’s main launch site since 1955. According to statements by KZ24 News and The Moscow Times, the Kakazh government has impounded Russian assets at the Center for Utilization of Ground-based Space Infrastructure (TsENKI), a subsidiary of Roscosmos. It is also preventing Russian officials from leaving the country or liquidating Roscosmos assets. This incident is another example of how Russia’s space program is suffering collateral damage from the war in Ukraine.

The decision was made because the Russian State company failed to pay its debts to the Kazakh government, which are now over 13.5 billion tenges (2.258 billion rubles; $29.7 million). This debt is part of the “Baiterek” program, a Kazakh-Russian joint venture related to the development of the Soyuz-5 booster. This program was created in 2005 to speed the transition from launch vehicles that rely on highly-toxic unsymmetric dimethylhydrazine (UDMH) – aka. “heptyl” fuel (C2H8N2) – and adopting ecologically safe propellants and launch practices.

[link to www.universetoday.com (secure)]
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Yes the sanctions are designed to give Russia time that is running out.
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Doubt Russia is going broke like america

Why are no Russian banks collapsing?
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Grocery store shelves collapsing is closer to it.
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On March 7th, 2023, Kazakhstan seized control of the Biaterek launch complex at the Baikonur Cosmodrome – Russia’s main launch site since 1955. According to statements by KZ24 News and The Moscow Times, the Kakazh government has impounded Russian assets at the Center for Utilization of Ground-based Space Infrastructure (TsENKI), a subsidiary of Roscosmos. It is also preventing Russian officials from leaving the country or liquidating Roscosmos assets. This incident is another example of how Russia’s space program is suffering collateral damage from the war in Ukraine.

The decision was made because the Russian State company failed to pay its debts to the Kazakh government, which are now over 13.5 billion tenges (2.258 billion rubles; $29.7 million). This debt is part of the “Baiterek” program, a Kazakh-Russian joint venture related to the development of the Soyuz-5 booster. This program was created in 2005 to speed the transition from launch vehicles that rely on highly-toxic unsymmetric dimethylhydrazine (UDMH) – aka. “heptyl” fuel (C2H8N2) – and adopting ecologically safe propellants and launch practices.

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Specifically, which ones have launched ISS shuttle and resupply missions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83049181




And you don't have to know that.
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It’s public knowledge, Comrade.
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Then why pointless questions?
It was just that Baikonur was more convenient, because it is further south.
But it is outdated.
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It was a valid question.

Whatever your explainer is, Baikonur is your only cosmodrome flying ISS missions. And it’s not any more until your dear leader pays his bills.

Let’s hope that Elon Musk and SoaceX can pick up the slack.
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Gl0b0c@bal is like this fun.gus.

Kaz going to be the next zombie just like Ucrane

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*or fly remote control mil-jets full of jetfuel and a penetrator into the data servers

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A nudge is as good as a wink to blind 9 11 surscribers.
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Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts
On March 7th, 2023, Kazakhstan seized control of the Biaterek launch complex at the Baikonur Cosmodrome – Russia’s main launch site since 1955. According to statements by KZ24 News and The Moscow Times, the Kakazh government has impounded Russian assets at the Center for Utilization of Ground-based Space Infrastructure (TsENKI), a subsidiary of Roscosmos. It is also preventing Russian officials from leaving the country or liquidating Roscosmos assets. This incident is another example of how Russia’s space program is suffering collateral damage from the war in Ukraine.

The decision was made because the Russian State company failed to pay its debts to the Kazakh government, which are now over 13.5 billion tenges (2.258 billion rubles; $29.7 million). This debt is part of the “Baiterek” program, a Kazakh-Russian joint venture related to the development of the Soyuz-5 booster. This program was created in 2005 to speed the transition from launch vehicles that rely on highly-toxic unsymmetric dimethylhydrazine (UDMH) – aka. “heptyl” fuel (C2H8N2) – and adopting ecologically safe propellants and launch practices.

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Another successful troll thread!

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LOL
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Guess they've completed the construction of their new cosmodrome:




Russia will continue to cooperate with Kazakhstan at Baikonur, but is also building its own modern cosmodrome in the Far East, as it is still a different country. This was stated by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“We have cooperated and will continue to cooperate with Kazakhstan. But it is still, with all our closeness to this country... a different state. And we are creating a modern Russian cosmodrome in the Far East,” the head of state said at a meeting with political parties that entered the State Duma.

He stressed that the cosmodrome would be precisely modern, since what was created in the Soviet Union no longer meets the requirements that apply to today's cosmonautics.

The second phase of the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome in the Amur Region should be completed in December 2022. The first launch from the new launch complex for rockets of the Angara family is scheduled for the summer of 2023. Vostochny is the first civilian cosmodrome in Russia, its total area is about 700 square kilometers.
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No

US will be broke though
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No

US will be broke though
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I’d say in two weeks, the US will be more broke than Russia and Cape Canaveral will becshut down.
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FAKE NEWS
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Lol 30 million debt can be paid with less then a day in oil sales, highly doubt russia can't pay that
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Russia makes $30m USD selling oil every 3.5 hours.
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The only one broke is the United States which prints more money without backing than they did during the Weimar Republic days. Go Crimea river OP bsflag
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Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts
On March 7th, 2023, Kazakhstan seized control of the Biaterek launch complex at the Baikonur Cosmodrome – Russia’s main launch site since 1955. According to statements by KZ24 News and The Moscow Times, the Kakazh government has impounded Russian assets at the Center for Utilization of Ground-based Space Infrastructure (TsENKI), a subsidiary of Roscosmos. It is also preventing Russian officials from leaving the country or liquidating Roscosmos assets. This incident is another example of how Russia’s space program is suffering collateral damage from the war in Ukraine.

The decision was made because the Russian State company failed to pay its debts to the Kazakh government, which are now over 13.5 billion tenges (2.258 billion rubles; $29.7 million). This debt is part of the “Baiterek” program, a Kazakh-Russian joint venture related to the development of the Soyuz-5 booster. This program was created in 2005 to speed the transition from launch vehicles that rely on highly-toxic unsymmetric dimethylhydrazine (UDMH) – aka. “heptyl” fuel (C2H8N2) – and adopting ecologically safe propellants and launch practices.

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Another successful troll thread!

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What’s troll about it.

It’s News and it’s true.
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Russia doesn’t print fake money to cover their debt. like the United States does.
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Because they can’t bozo. It’s that simple. Please Russia is weakling. Not even man!
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I think Kaz. is working with the US and this is an act of war.
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Yes 100%. No one is talking about Kazakhstan. Largest border with Russia. Also borders China.
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Astana is the HQ for the Dividers and Oath Dodgers Ounion.
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On the other end of the tracks is the J. Autonomous Oblast,
where the TransSib crosses the Amur River back into East Russia.
Wedged between China and Russia, last stop NK.
It was assigned, like Isreal, after WWII.
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And you don't have to know that.
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It’s public knowledge, Comrade.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83049181





Then why pointless questions?
It was just that Baikonur was more convenient, because it is further south.
But it is outdated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85532031


It was a valid question.

Whatever your explainer is, Baikonur is your only cosmodrome flying ISS missions. And it’s not any more until your dear leader pays his bills.

Let’s hope that Elon Musk and SoaceX can pick up the slack.
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Wrong.
There were launches on the ISS not only from Baikonur.
This is the first.
The new Vostochny cosmodrome was tried for such launches.
Elon Musk knows that he is balancing on the edge and does not want to lose everything. Therefore, he constantly finds compromise solutions.
Have you heard anything about Nudol? And he knows.
About ruin - it's ridiculous to even comment.





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