IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84562364 United States 03/29/2023 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts On March 7th, 2023, Kazakhstan seized control of the Biaterek launch complex at the Baikonur Cosmodrome – Russia’s main launch site since 1955. According to statements by KZ24 News and The Moscow Times, the Kakazh government has impounded Russian assets at the Center for Utilization of Ground-based Space Infrastructure (TsENKI), a subsidiary of Roscosmos. It is also preventing Russian officials from leaving the country or liquidating Roscosmos assets. This incident is another example of how Russia’s space program is suffering collateral damage from the war in Ukraine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82199237 The decision was made because the Russian State company failed to pay its debts to the Kazakh government, which are now over 13.5 billion tenges (2.258 billion rubles; $29.7 million). This debt is part of the “Baiterek” program, a Kazakh-Russian joint venture related to the development of the Soyuz-5 booster. This program was created in 2005 to speed the transition from launch vehicles that rely on highly-toxic unsymmetric dimethylhydrazine (UDMH) – aka. “heptyl” fuel (C2H8N2) – and adopting ecologically safe propellants and launch practices. [link to www.universetoday.com (secure)] well, Kazakhstan have a death wish Well, Kazakhstan will be the next nation to apply for NATO membership thanks to Russian mafia don Putin's actions. What a cheenious that Putin is... driving all these countries into the arms of the West by threatening them with annihilation. What a shit hole of a country Russia is. I guess they can continue pumping out criminals and prostitutes with which they flood the West. R. programmed state department shills weighing in to great effect today. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85533641 United States 03/29/2023 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts That’s correct, comrade. It’s what war mongering dictators do. Hahaa...yet the USA is using Kaz as a proxy projecting again aren't ya? So where are you at some boiler room in the USA or Izrel? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83049181 United States 03/29/2023 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts https://twitter.com/_/status/1641070519767425024 The oligarch Oleg Deripaska has said Russia could run out of money by next year unless the country secures investment from “friendly” countries as western sanctions bite. Deripaska, an energy and metals tycoon who was once Russia’s richest person, told an investment conference in Siberia on Thursday: “There will be no money already next year. We will need foreign investors.” |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83049181 United States 03/29/2023 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts That’s correct, comrade. It’s what war mongering dictators do. Hahaa...yet the USA is using Kaz as a proxy projecting again aren't ya? So where are you at some boiler room in the USA or Izrel? What is your evidence that bad USA is using Kaz as a proxy? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83049181 United States 03/29/2023 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts Yeah they are going broke. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81921048 It's called fck around and find out. And boy are they finding out, lmao So…think Putin is going to take other gloves off soon? Maybe next winter. But why one would remove gloves, in the winter, escapes me. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85505437 United States 03/29/2023 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts Yeah they are going broke. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81921048 It's called fck around and find out. And boy are they finding out, lmao So…think Putin is going to take other gloves off soon? Gloves are off. When you are raiding museums for equipment to send to the front, that should tell you all you need to know. Can't wait to see western tanks vs museum pieces. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80435867 03/29/2023 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts i think there's more to this story than the eye meets Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78317455 30 million dollar of unpaid loans, are you fucking kidding me, that's peanuts, have you forgotten how the USA tryed a color revolution in that same country months ago which Russia squished within a day or so?! this is probably just propaganda and the Kazak Government is doing this on the orders of America, but they know they can't push this forever Absolutely they rolled in and blasted the cia revolution in a weekend. Russia has probably the best foundation of any country to be financially solvent. If payment isn’t being made it’s not because they can’t. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85532031 Russia 03/29/2023 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts Baikonur has been a major part of Russia's contribution to the International Space Station (ISS), as it is the only spaceport from which Russian missions to the ISS are launched. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82199237 [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] So how with this affect ISS supply and personnel transport missions? Can SpaceX pick up the slack if Baikanour is shut down? That’s what I was wondering. Baikonur Cismodrome is the only ISS shuttle launch facility that Russia has, isn’t it? No. There are 2 more spaceports. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 38733927 Canada 03/29/2023 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts Really? No, really? Didn't they just have to rescue AMERICAN astronauts from there? Stands to reason Murrica has more to lose than the Russkies, from this. Also, how is Kazakhstan going to get their money back by 'impounding' these assets? They are gonna start launching satellites or something from Baikonur? LOL It is either part of something MUCH bigger (Kazakhstan told by the US to do this) or Russia is just using it to renegotiate a cheaper deal, a discount (or for goods instead of for cash). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81197539 United States 03/29/2023 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts On March 7th, 2023, Kazakhstan seized control of the Biaterek launch complex at the Baikonur Cosmodrome – Russia’s main launch site since 1955. According to statements by KZ24 News and The Moscow Times, the Kakazh government has impounded Russian assets at the Center for Utilization of Ground-based Space Infrastructure (TsENKI), a subsidiary of Roscosmos. It is also preventing Russian officials from leaving the country or liquidating Roscosmos assets. This incident is another example of how Russia’s space program is suffering collateral damage from the war in Ukraine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82199237 The decision was made because the Russian State company failed to pay its debts to the Kazakh government, which are now over 13.5 billion tenges (2.258 billion rubles; $29.7 million). This debt is part of the “Baiterek” program, a Kazakh-Russian joint venture related to the development of the Soyuz-5 booster. This program was created in 2005 to speed the transition from launch vehicles that rely on highly-toxic unsymmetric dimethylhydrazine (UDMH) – aka. “heptyl” fuel (C2H8N2) – and adopting ecologically safe propellants and launch practices. [link to www.universetoday.com (secure)] it was done so US can fly to ISS, since they can't deal with russians becasue of sanctions they can stil ldeal with kazachs. All smokes and mirrors for you perasants. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83049181 United States 03/29/2023 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts Baikonur has been a major part of Russia's contribution to the International Space Station (ISS), as it is the only spaceport from which Russian missions to the ISS are launched. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82199237 [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] So how with this affect ISS supply and personnel transport missions? Can SpaceX pick up the slack if Baikanour is shut down? That’s what I was wondering. Baikonur Cismodrome is the only ISS shuttle launch facility that Russia has, isn’t it? No. There are 2 more spaceports. Specifically, which ones have launched ISS shuttle and resupply missions? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83049181 United States 03/29/2023 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts Baikonur has been a major part of Russia's contribution to the International Space Station (ISS), as it is the only spaceport from which Russian missions to the ISS are launched. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82199237 [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] So how with this affect ISS supply and personnel transport missions? Can SpaceX pick up the slack if Baikanour is shut down? That’s what I was wondering. Baikonur Cismodrome is the only ISS shuttle launch facility that Russia has, isn’t it? No. There are 2 more spaceports. Specifically, which ones have launched ISS shuttle and resupply missions? OK, found it. Baikanur is the only Russian cosmodrome that does this. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] If they don’t pay their debts and get back to operating those at Baikanur, this might be a significant problem for the space station. But who knows. Russia said they were bailing on it, so maybe that’s the plan. Extortion maybe? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85533641 United States 03/29/2023 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts Hahaa...yet the USA is using Kaz as a proxy projecting again aren't ya? So where are you at some boiler room in the USA or Izrel? What is your evidence that bad USA is using Kaz as a proxy? Typical "feigned ignorance/innocence" nonsense from gl0balc@b@l agents. [link to www.marshallcenter.org (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83049181 United States 03/29/2023 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts So you are telling me the Russkies care about the ISS? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38733927 Really? No, really? Didn't they just have to rescue AMERICAN astronauts from there? Stands to reason Murrica has more to lose than the Russkies, from this. Also, how is Kazakhstan going to get their money back by 'impounding' these assets? They are gonna start launching satellites or something from Baikonur? LOL It is either part of something MUCH bigger (Kazakhstan told by the US to do this) or Russia is just using it to renegotiate a cheaper deal, a discount (or for goods instead of for cash). No, a SpaceX shuttle had to rescue them because the Soyuz sprung a leak. |
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