IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83411603 United States 03/29/2023 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts i think there's more to this story than the eye meets Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78317455 30 million dollar of unpaid loans, are you fucking kidding me, that's peanuts, have you forgotten how the USA tryed a color revolution in that same country months ago which Russia squished within a day or so?! this is probably just propaganda and the Kazak Government is doing this on the orders of America, but they know they can't push this forever Why doesn’t Russia just make their payments then? Problem solved. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83411603 United States 03/29/2023 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts Doubt Russia is going broke like america Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80005771 Why are no Russian banks collapsing? Bump https://twitter.com/_/status/1633892644148396052 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84350788 03/29/2023 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts The amount owed is chump change even for Russia. I think there is more here than meets the eye. Putler just might be having thoughts that China’s Belt and Road Initiative might be a greater existential threat to Mother Russia than Ukraine and NATO. Mooscow has fairly well cut the rail lines for direct transportation from the Eurasian corridor of China direct to Poland. Much of it has been shifted to maritime assets and this increases costs and delays delivery to Europe. Putler's war is costing Chinese trade access to a lucrative market. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85533641 United States 03/29/2023 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts Doubt Russia is going broke like america Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80005771 Why are no Russian banks collapsing? Bump it isnt broke its in much better shape than most western nations, owing 10-20% of gdp. probably why they want to fuck it up... This. Notice how the Great Deceivers aka globalinternationalcabal project their own weaknesses upon others, it is a very genetic trait among their kind. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85532031 Russia 03/29/2023 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts Guess they've completed the construction of their new cosmodrome: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17178033 Russia will continue to cooperate with Kazakhstan at Baikonur, but is also building its own modern cosmodrome in the Far East, as it is still a different country. This was stated by Russian President Vladimir Putin. “We have cooperated and will continue to cooperate with Kazakhstan. But it is still, with all our closeness to this country... a different state. And we are creating a modern Russian cosmodrome in the Far East,” the head of state said at a meeting with political parties that entered the State Duma. He stressed that the cosmodrome would be precisely modern, since what was created in the Soviet Union no longer meets the requirements that apply to today's cosmonautics. The second phase of the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome in the Amur Region should be completed in December 2022. The first launch from the new launch complex for rockets of the Angara family is scheduled for the summer of 2023. Vostochny is the first civilian cosmodrome in Russia, its total area is about 700 square kilometers. That's right. Vostochny is already working, there have already been launches from him. This is a civilian spaceport. In addition to him, there is a military man. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85071821 United States 03/29/2023 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts i think there's more to this story than the eye meets Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78317455 30 million dollar of unpaid loans, are you fucking kidding me, that's peanuts, have you forgotten how the USA tryed a color revolution in that same country months ago which Russia squished within a day or so?! this is probably just propaganda and the Kazak Government is doing this on the orders of America, but they know they can't push this forever Why doesn’t Russia just make their payments then? Problem solved. They have finished their new site in the east and have a war going on. Paying rent on an outdated facility isn’t a priority. Once they finish in Ukraine they can cut a deal with China and remove the annoyance that was kasakstan. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85071821 United States 03/29/2023 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts Doubt Russia is going broke like america Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80005771 Why are no Russian banks collapsing? Bump it isnt broke its in much better shape than most western nations, owing 10-20% of gdp. probably why they want to fuck it up... They also hold 1/6th of the entire planets natural resources and don’t let western companies exploit them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17178033 Canada 03/29/2023 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts Guess they've completed the construction of their new cosmodrome: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17178033 Russia will continue to cooperate with Kazakhstan at Baikonur, but is also building its own modern cosmodrome in the Far East, as it is still a different country. This was stated by Russian President Vladimir Putin. “We have cooperated and will continue to cooperate with Kazakhstan. But it is still, with all our closeness to this country... a different state. And we are creating a modern Russian cosmodrome in the Far East,” the head of state said at a meeting with political parties that entered the State Duma. He stressed that the cosmodrome would be precisely modern, since what was created in the Soviet Union no longer meets the requirements that apply to today's cosmonautics. The second phase of the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome in the Amur Region should be completed in December 2022. The first launch from the new launch complex for rockets of the Angara family is scheduled for the summer of 2023. Vostochny is the first civilian cosmodrome in Russia, its total area is about 700 square kilometers. That's right. Vostochny is already working, there have already been launches from him. This is a civilian spaceport. In addition to him, there is a military man. That's right. Vostochny is already working, there have already been launches from it. This is a civilian spaceport. In addition to it, there is a militar one. There...corrected it for ya ;) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84864291 United States 03/29/2023 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts Doubt Russia is going broke like america Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80005771 Why are no Russian banks collapsing? Bump https://twitter.com/_/status/1633892644148396052 Lol it made less of a profit meanwhile western banks are insolvent. Hahahhahahaha. Look look they got sanctioned by half the planet and only had a drop in expected profits. God people are dumb. Death to Glo ho |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80361285 United States 03/29/2023 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts On March 7th, 2023, Kazakhstan seized control of the Biaterek launch complex at the Baikonur Cosmodrome – Russia’s main launch site since 1955. According to statements by KZ24 News and The Moscow Times, the Kakazh government has impounded Russian assets at the Center for Utilization of Ground-based Space Infrastructure (TsENKI), a subsidiary of Roscosmos. It is also preventing Russian officials from leaving the country or liquidating Roscosmos assets. This incident is another example of how Russia’s space program is suffering collateral damage from the war in Ukraine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82199237 The decision was made because the Russian State company failed to pay its debts to the Kazakh government, which are now over 13.5 billion tenges (2.258 billion rubles; $29.7 million). This debt is part of the “Baiterek” program, a Kazakh-Russian joint venture related to the development of the Soyuz-5 booster. This program was created in 2005 to speed the transition from launch vehicles that rely on highly-toxic unsymmetric dimethylhydrazine (UDMH) – aka. “heptyl” fuel (C2H8N2) – and adopting ecologically safe propellants and launch practices. [link to www.universetoday.com (secure)] LMAO TL;DR and it's bullshit anyway |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85532031 Russia 03/29/2023 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts Guess they've completed the construction of their new cosmodrome: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17178033 Russia will continue to cooperate with Kazakhstan at Baikonur, but is also building its own modern cosmodrome in the Far East, as it is still a different country. This was stated by Russian President Vladimir Putin. “We have cooperated and will continue to cooperate with Kazakhstan. But it is still, with all our closeness to this country... a different state. And we are creating a modern Russian cosmodrome in the Far East,” the head of state said at a meeting with political parties that entered the State Duma. He stressed that the cosmodrome would be precisely modern, since what was created in the Soviet Union no longer meets the requirements that apply to today's cosmonautics. The second phase of the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome in the Amur Region should be completed in December 2022. The first launch from the new launch complex for rockets of the Angara family is scheduled for the summer of 2023. Vostochny is the first civilian cosmodrome in Russia, its total area is about 700 square kilometers. That's right. Vostochny is already working, there have already been launches from him. This is a civilian spaceport. In addition to him, there is a military man. That's right. Vostochny is already working, there have already been launches from it. This is a civilian spaceport. In addition to it, there is a militar one. There...corrected it for ya ;) Thank you :) Yandex translator sometimes does not work well. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74835777 New Zealand 03/29/2023 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts Because if they arent going to the space station anymore why would they bother paying for something they dont need at the current time? I think your drawing too many assumptions and this is just another propaganda thread by the globalist elite operative. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 40223333 Australia 03/29/2023 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts So you’re thinking that Putin will take the gloves off and threaten Kazakhstan with nukes unless they forgive Russia’s debt and delinquent payments? in 1994 Russia signed the Budapest Memorandum in which Russia agreed that they would not threaten or attack three countries: Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan. obviously Russia has broken this agreement and threatened or attacked all three countries. USA and UK also signed the Budapest Memorandum, and agreed to help Ukraine and the other countries if they are attacked. so that is the current situation, Russia broke the agreement and USA and UK are following the agreement. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74835777 New Zealand 03/29/2023 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts So you’re thinking that Putin will take the gloves off and threaten Kazakhstan with nukes unless they forgive Russia’s debt and delinquent payments? in 1994 Russia signed the Budapest Memorandum in which Russia agreed that they would not threaten or attack three countries: Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan. obviously Russia has broken this agreement and threatened or attacked all three countries. USA and UK also signed the Budapest Memorandum, and agreed to help Ukraine and the other countries if they are attacked. so that is the current situation, Russia broke the agreement and USA and UK are following the agreement. Those agreements are null and void the moment ukraine started killing ethnic russians who wanted to secede and threatening Russia. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85534563 United States 03/29/2023 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts Guess they've completed the construction of their new cosmodrome: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17178033 Russia will continue to cooperate with Kazakhstan at Baikonur, but is also building its own modern cosmodrome in the Far East, as it is still a different country. This was stated by Russian President Vladimir Putin. “We have cooperated and will continue to cooperate with Kazakhstan. But it is still, with all our closeness to this country... a different state. And we are creating a modern Russian cosmodrome in the Far East,” the head of state said at a meeting with political parties that entered the State Duma. He stressed that the cosmodrome would be precisely modern, since what was created in the Soviet Union no longer meets the requirements that apply to today's cosmonautics. The second phase of the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome in the Amur Region should be completed in December 2022. The first launch from the new launch complex for rockets of the Angara family is scheduled for the summer of 2023. Vostochny is the first civilian cosmodrome in Russia, its total area is about 700 square kilometers. That's right. Vostochny is already working, there have already been launches from him. This is a civilian spaceport. In addition to him, there is a military man. These Russian propaganda trolls are amusing. I just hope they don’t take classes and learn better English. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80458239 United States 03/29/2023 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts "IF" the Russians can't get to the International Space Station you can be sure that they will make sure NOBODY ELSE CAN EITHER!! Blinken may well have signed the International Space Station's DEATH WARRANT ... which means that the ONLY Space Station in orbit will be the Chinese Space Station and you can be sure the Chinese will NEVER let an American Astronaut onboard THEIR Space Station. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72701171 United States 03/29/2023 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts Guess they've completed the construction of their new cosmodrome: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17178033 Russia will continue to cooperate with Kazakhstan at Baikonur, but is also building its own modern cosmodrome in the Far East, as it is still a different country. This was stated by Russian President Vladimir Putin. “We have cooperated and will continue to cooperate with Kazakhstan. But it is still, with all our closeness to this country... a different state. And we are creating a modern Russian cosmodrome in the Far East,” the head of state said at a meeting with political parties that entered the State Duma. He stressed that the cosmodrome would be precisely modern, since what was created in the Soviet Union no longer meets the requirements that apply to today's cosmonautics. The second phase of the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome in the Amur Region should be completed in December 2022. The first launch from the new launch complex for rockets of the Angara family is scheduled for the summer of 2023. Vostochny is the first civilian cosmodrome in Russia, its total area is about 700 square kilometers. That's right. Vostochny is already working, there have already been launches from him. This is a civilian spaceport. In addition to him, there is a military man. These Russian propaganda trolls are amusing. I just hope they don’t take classes and learn better English. Can we just get another link to corroborate this? Transiberianrailroad.com looks kinda fakey… |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85534563 United States 03/29/2023 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts I guess this also puts a end to Russia’s copy of the US space shuttle which still hasn’t gotten off the ground. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83049181 https://twitter.com/_/status/1638952688049070087 Could be the end of Russia’s new Soyuz 5 rocket program. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81936090 Russia has already spent nearly $1 billion on the development of the new Soyuz-5 rocket and plans for its launch site and ground services. When Ars wrote about the rocket's development in 2017, it was slated to debut in 2021. Now it is unlikely to debut before at least 2024—and given the current dispute with Kazakhstan, it likely will be delayed much longer into the future. [link to arstechnica.com (secure)] Because if they arent going to the space station anymore why would they bother paying for something they dont need at the current time? I think your drawing too many assumptions and this is just another propaganda thread by the globalist elite operative. First of all, it’s not a good thing for a country to shaft other countries and default on payments. Secondly, the Soyuz ISS mission isn’t the only project that Russians has based there. See above. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40223333 Australia 03/29/2023 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts So you’re thinking that Putin will take the gloves off and threaten Kazakhstan with nukes unless they forgive Russia’s debt and delinquent payments? in 1994 Russia signed the Budapest Memorandum in which Russia agreed that they would not threaten or attack three countries: Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan. obviously Russia has broken this agreement and threatened or attacked all three countries. USA and UK also signed the Budapest Memorandum, and agreed to help Ukraine and the other countries if they are attacked. so that is the current situation, Russia broke the agreement and USA and UK are following the agreement. Those agreements are null and void the moment ukraine started killing ethnic russians who wanted to secede and threatening Russia. in 2014 Russia invaded Crimea and eastern Ukraine. they rounded up the Ukrainians and sent them to concentration camps in Siberia. then they sent a bunch of armed Russians into the area to replace the Ukrainians they shipped out and to attack Ukraine. so of course Ukraine had to defend themselves against the "ethnic Russians" since they were armed invaders from Russia. the Budapest Memorandum is still in force and Russia is still breaking it. there is no way it is acceptable for Russia to threaten and install puppet governments in Belarus and Kazakhstan regardless of what happens in Ukraine. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85534563 United States 03/29/2023 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: IS RUSSIA GOING BROKE? Kazakhstan Seizes Russia's Launch Facility at Baikonur Because Russia Can’t Pay Its Debts Guess they've completed the construction of their new cosmodrome: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17178033 Russia will continue to cooperate with Kazakhstan at Baikonur, but is also building its own modern cosmodrome in the Far East, as it is still a different country. This was stated by Russian President Vladimir Putin. “We have cooperated and will continue to cooperate with Kazakhstan. But it is still, with all our closeness to this country... a different state. And we are creating a modern Russian cosmodrome in the Far East,” the head of state said at a meeting with political parties that entered the State Duma. He stressed that the cosmodrome would be precisely modern, since what was created in the Soviet Union no longer meets the requirements that apply to today's cosmonautics. The second phase of the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome in the Amur Region should be completed in December 2022. The first launch from the new launch complex for rockets of the Angara family is scheduled for the summer of 2023. Vostochny is the first civilian cosmodrome in Russia, its total area is about 700 square kilometers. That's right. Vostochny is already working, there have already been launches from him. This is a civilian spaceport. In addition to him, there is a military man. These Russian propaganda trolls are amusing. I just hope they don’t take classes and learn better English. Can we just get another link to corroborate this? Transiberianrailroad.com looks kinda fakey… Would Aviation Week set aside your “fake news” attempt at an explainer? [link to aviationweek.com (secure)] Kazakhstan has taken control of Russian assets on Baikonur spaceport, local KZ24 media reported on March 7, citing the country’s court bailiff service. The property belongs to TsENKI Center for Operation of Space Ground-based Infrastructure, a subsidiary of Russia’s Roscosmos State Corp. |