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There's no FLAT EARTH. One fact to destroy it completely.

 
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There's no FLAT EARTH. One fact to destroy it completely.
It's simple.
If one fact does not work, the whole theory does not work and is out the door.

You have the tropics between which the sun travels, which creates the seasons.
On a flat earth the sun has to, mysteriously, spiral in and outwards between the two.
Now, the northern one (circle to travel) is smaller then the southern one on a flat earth.
That means the sun has to travel faster when it's over the tropic of capricorn then when it's over the tropic of cancer.

Fact.
The sun travels at the same speed in the northern hemosphere as it does in the southern hemosphere!
So, there is no flat earth.
No matter what all other arguments may be.
A flat earth does not match the above mentioned fact and observation and thus the theory is invalid.

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Thanks Opie, that solves the whole debate.

Flat Earth has hereby been disproven in its entirety.
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WHAT'S A HEMOSPHERE?
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Re: There's no FLAT EARTH. One fact to destroy it completely.
Thanks Opie, that solves the whole debate.

Flat Earth has hereby been disproven in its entirety.
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You're welcome.
But flat erfers will huff and puff and blow their tops off.
They will come with a million "facts" to "proof" i'm wrong and totally ignore the one fact they cannot explain...

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WHAT'S A HEMOSPHERE?
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Pardon my dutch.
Hemisphere.
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You need to research how the sun traverses the earth.
It works in an outward spiral.

The sun changes speed in a spiral, out and in, in and out.

The sun breaths, she is holistic.
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You need to research how the sun traverses the earth.
It works in an outward spiral.

The sun changes speed in a spiral, out and in, in and out.

The sun breaths, she is holistic.
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You proof to me that the sun travels faster in the southern hemisphere then it does in the northern.
Just saying it is so is arguing like a 4 year old.
Theory must match observation.
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ball earthers cant explain how the moon is now seen during the day when always when i was young it was only at [youtube]nnight
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I'm sixty you idiot.
The moon has always been visible during the day at certain times.
But again, ignoring the one fact that cannot be disputed.

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There a numerous things that we've been told about the globe that don't hold up to scrutiny either.

I don't think we live on a flat earth, but I also have enough of an open mind to see the inconsistencies in the globe model - and, yes,I wonder why that is.

Personally, I think it's more likely any of the globe models inconsistencies can eventually be corrected than I can accept the alternative flat earth.

Still, FE certainly does offer some very interesting questions.
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So, tell me what's inconsistant with the fact the earth is a globe?
And if not what is it? In any case it's not flat.
The obsevations does not support it...

cool2
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OP, you have developed a good basis for a conjecture that the earth is a ball. Now all you have to do is find the ball earth, because I keep looking but can't find it:


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I've found it through reasoning and traveling around the world.
The sun travels with the same speed throughout the year which means no flat earth...

cool2
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Flat Earthers are devoid on logic and reason.

They are incapable of understanding the simplest of scientific methods used to prove the earth is round, especially math.

I suspect they frequently bounce checks or find their EBT cards empty.
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Flat Earthers are devoid on logic and reason.

They are incapable of understanding the simplest of scientific methods used to prove the earth is round, especially math.

I suspect they frequently bounce checks or find their EBT cards empty.
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Is that your proof that the Earth is a ball?
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If I showed you my proof would you believe it?
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chuckle

None of these flat earthers could ever afford an overseas trip.
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OP, you have developed a good basis for a conjecture that the earth is a ball. Now all you have to do is find the ball earth, because I keep looking but can't find it:


 Quoting: leader


I've found it through reasoning and traveling around the world.
The sun travels with the same speed throughout the year which means no flat earth...

cool2
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I have traveled around my kitchen table, does that mean my floor is a ball?

What you have is conjecture, now you have to prove your conjecture by finding the ball.
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Your argument is somerhing a 4 year old would come up with.

No conjecture, just a fact.
Just proof to me the sun travels faster when its in the southern hemisphere then when it's in the northern hemisphere.
You cannot...

cool2
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To better understand the argument you have to imagine the flat earth map. When the sun is north of the equator where the circumference in the flat earth map is smaller, the sun moves slowly, and when it's south of the equator, because the circumference is greater, then the sun has to move faster, to trick us.

The flat earth map always shows a circular path for sun and moon but it would have to be a cork-screw ellipse, where the sun speeds up the further from the south pole it goes in order to give the same daylight hours as in the north.
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You get it.
Thanks for clarifying it in other words...

cool2
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Re: There's no FLAT EARTH. One fact to destroy it completely.
It's simple.
If one fact does not work, the whole theory does not work and is out the door.

You have the tropics between which the sun travels, which creates the seasons.
On a flat earth the sun has to, mysteriously, spiral in and outwards between the two.
Now, the northern one (circle to travel) is smaller then the southern one on a flat earth.
That means the sun has to travel faster when it's over the tropic of capricorn then when it's over the tropic of cancer.

Fact.
The sun travels at the same speed in the northern hemosphere as it does in the southern hemosphere!
So, there is no flat earth.
No matter what all other arguments may be.
A flat earth does not match the above mentioned fact and observation and thus the theory is invalid.

cool2
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Think. You can measure in time only the Degrees of Arc per second of the Suns motion. Its actual speed cannot be measured. You cannot factually deny it speeds up and slows down.

This is an example of how simple logic and math is either ignored or escapes the Globers.
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Any movement that can be measured by any amount of time and any other measurement be it a inch, a foot or a mile or an degree of an Arc can have it's speed measured.


All that is required is Math.
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Flat Earthers are devoid on logic and reason.

They are incapable of understanding the simplest of scientific methods used to prove the earth is round, especially math.

I suspect they frequently bounce checks or find their EBT cards empty.
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Is that your proof that the Earth is a ball?
 Quoting: leader


If I showed you my proof would you believe it?
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Sure, if it was a proof. Most ballers mistake conjecture for proof.
 Quoting: leader



Ignoring the one fact that you cannot explain, again...

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It's simple.
If one fact does not work, the whole theory does not work and is out the door.

You have the tropics between which the sun travels, which creates the seasons.
On a flat earth the sun has to, mysteriously, spiral in and outwards between the two.
Now, the northern one (circle to travel) is smaller then the southern one on a flat earth.
That means the sun has to travel faster when it's over the tropic of capricorn then when it's over the tropic of cancer.

Fact.
The sun travels at the same speed in the northern hemosphere as it does in the southern hemosphere!
So, there is no flat earth.
No matter what all other arguments may be.
A flat earth does not match the above mentioned fact and observation and thus the theory is invalid.

cool2
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Think. You can measure in time only the Degrees of Arc per second of the Suns motion. Its actual speed cannot be measured. You cannot factually deny it speeds up and slows down.

This is an example of how simple logic and math is either ignored or escapes the Globers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83974880


Any movement that can be measured by any amount of time and any other measurement be it a inch, a foot or a mile or an degree of an Arc can have it's speed measured.


All that is required is Math.
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Wrong little idea. You cannot find the speed of anything moving through the sky without knowing where it is in distance from you. Simple trigonometry. Go back to math class.
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Is that your proof that the Earth is a ball?
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If I showed you my proof would you believe it?
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Sure, if it was a proof. Most ballers mistake conjecture for proof.
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When I landed on this planet I saw it from high earth orbit, it is a globe, I know this because I made about 1000 orbits before I crash landed on it.
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You are a good reason why education is a waste on any female. Do you understand what I just said? Yes? No?
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Re: There's no FLAT EARTH. One fact to destroy it completely.
It's simple.
If one fact does not work, the whole theory does not work and is out the door.

You have the tropics between which the sun travels, which creates the seasons.
On a flat earth the sun has to, mysteriously, spiral in and outwards between the two.
Now, the northern one (circle to travel) is smaller then the southern one on a flat earth.
That means the sun has to travel faster when it's over the tropic of capricorn then when it's over the tropic of cancer.

Fact.
The sun travels at the same speed in the northern hemosphere as it does in the southern hemosphere!
So, there is no flat earth.
No matter what all other arguments may be.
A flat earth does not match the above mentioned fact and observation and thus the theory is invalid.

cool2
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Think. You can measure in time only the Degrees of Arc per second of the Suns motion. Its actual speed cannot be measured. You cannot factually deny it speeds up and slows down.

This is an example of how simple logic and math is either ignored or escapes the Globers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83974880


Yep, 15 degrees per hour.
It's the same in the north as it is in the south.
However, since in a flat earth model the sun moves over the surface of the earth you can measure it's groundspeed which is faster over the southern tropic as it is over the northern tropic because it has to travel a greater distance in thr south...


cool2
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Flat Earthers are devoid on logic and reason.

They are incapable of understanding the simplest of scientific methods used to prove the earth is round, especially math.

I suspect they frequently bounce checks or find their EBT cards empty.
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Is that your proof that the Earth is a ball?
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You have no proof for a flat earth.
You cannot ignore the fact in the OP...

cool2
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To better understand the argument you have to imagine the flat earth map. When the sun is north of the equator where the circumference in the flat earth map is smaller, the sun moves slowly, and when it's south of the equator, because the circumference is greater, then the sun has to move faster, to trick us.

The flat earth map always shows a circular path for sun and moon but it would have to be a cork-screw ellipse, where the sun speeds up the further from the NORTH pole it goes in order to give the same daylight hours in the south as in the north.
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You get it.
Thanks for clarifying it in other words...

cool2
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Yes, except for that typo. Clarified also the sentence.
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It's simple.
If one fact does not work, the whole theory does not work and is out the door.

You have the tropics between which the sun travels, which creates the seasons.
On a flat earth the sun has to, mysteriously, spiral in and outwards between the two.
Now, the northern one (circle to travel) is smaller then the southern one on a flat earth.
That means the sun has to travel faster when it's over the tropic of capricorn then when it's over the tropic of cancer.

Fact.
The sun travels at the same speed in the northern hemosphere as it does in the southern hemosphere!
So, there is no flat earth.
No matter what all other arguments may be.
A flat earth does not match the above mentioned fact and observation and thus the theory is invalid.

cool2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83087247


Think. You can measure in time only the Degrees of Arc per second of the Suns motion. Its actual speed cannot be measured. You cannot factually deny it speeds up and slows down.

This is an example of how simple logic and math is either ignored or escapes the Globers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83974880


Yep, 15 degrees per hour.
It's the same in the north as it is in the south.
However, since in a flat earth model the sun moves over the surface of the earth you can measure it's groundspeed which is faster over the southern tropic as it is over the northern tropic because it has to travel a greater distance in thr south...


cool2
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It's simple.
If one fact does not work, the whole theory does not work and is out the door.

You have the tropics between which the sun travels, which creates the seasons.
On a flat earth the sun has to, mysteriously, spiral in and outwards between the two.
Now, the northern one (circle to travel) is smaller then the southern one on a flat earth.
That means the sun has to travel faster when it's over the tropic of capricorn then when it's over the tropic of cancer.

Fact.
The sun travels at the same speed in the northern hemosphere as it does in the southern hemosphere!
So, there is no flat earth.
No matter what all other arguments may be.
A flat earth does not match the above mentioned fact and observation and thus the theory is invalid.

cool2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83087247


Think. You can measure in time only the Degrees of Arc per second of the Suns motion. Its actual speed cannot be measured. You cannot factually deny it speeds up and slows down.

This is an example of how simple logic and math is either ignored or escapes the Globers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83974880


Yep, 15 degrees per hour.
It's the same in the north as it is in the south.
However, since in a flat earth model the sun moves over the surface of the earth you can measure it's groundspeed which is faster over the southern tropic as it is over the northern tropic because it has to travel a greater distance in thr south...


cool2
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Sounds like over there in Holland you do not know much about measuring ground speed other than talking about it.
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I've found it through reasoning and traveling around the world.
The sun travels with the same speed throughout the year which means no flat earth...

cool2
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I have traveled around my kitchen table, does that mean my floor is a ball?

What you have is conjecture, now you have to prove your conjecture by finding the ball.
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Your argument is somerhing a 4 year old would come up with.

No conjecture, just a fact.
Just proof to me the sun travels faster when its in the southern hemisphere then when it's in the northern hemisphere.
You cannot...

cool2
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Your "proof" assumes the ball earth to "prove" the ball earth. Now, who is the 4 year old?
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No, actually I just disprove flat earth.

Your reading skills are also at the level of a 4 year old.
Stop trolling this thread, boy...

cool2
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It's simple.
If one fact does not work, the whole theory does not work and is out the door.

You have the tropics between which the sun travels, which creates the seasons.
On a flat earth the sun has to, mysteriously, spiral in and outwards between the two.
Now, the northern one (circle to travel) is smaller then the southern one on a flat earth.
That means the sun has to travel faster when it's over the tropic of capricorn then when it's over the tropic of cancer.

Fact.
The sun travels at the same speed in the northern hemosphere as it does in the southern hemosphere!
So, there is no flat earth.
No matter what all other arguments may be.
A flat earth does not match the above mentioned fact and observation and thus the theory is invalid.

cool2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83087247


Think. You can measure in time only the Degrees of Arc per second of the Suns motion. Its actual speed cannot be measured. You cannot factually deny it speeds up and slows down.

This is an example of how simple logic and math is either ignored or escapes the Globers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83974880


Any movement that can be measured by any amount of time and any other measurement be it a inch, a foot or a mile or an degree of an Arc can have it's speed measured.


All that is required is Math.
 Quoting: GORGLESNARGLE


Wrong little idea. You cannot find the speed of anything moving through the sky without knowing where it is in distance from you. Simple trigonometry. Go back to math class.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83974880


I bet the speedometers inside cars vex you as well...

Trigonometry is never simple, it is higher math and the real key to understand how the universe works, but even basic math escapes you.

Standing anywhere on this planet you can sense it's movement if you watch the skies and focus on point in it, be it the sun or the stars, their movement can be measured, using that measurement the speed of the cosmos can be determined as well as the speed of the surface of the earth.

Hang on....




These discussions require me to listen to Yellow Magic Orchestra....

Furthermore having determined one several others can be determined because all objects in the heavens move at different speeds, some move so slowly it takes a life time of observation to record their movement and direction.

However everything is moving and the simplest proof is if it were not we would all die.

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It's simple.
If one fact does not work, the whole theory does not work and is out the door.

You have the tropics between which the sun travels, which creates the seasons.
On a flat earth the sun has to, mysteriously, spiral in and outwards between the two.
Now, the northern one (circle to travel) is smaller then the southern one on a flat earth.
That means the sun has to travel faster when it's over the tropic of capricorn then when it's over the tropic of cancer.

Fact.
The sun travels at the same speed in the northern hemosphere as it does in the southern hemosphere!
So, there is no flat earth.
No matter what all other arguments may be.
A flat earth does not match the above mentioned fact and observation and thus the theory is invalid.

cool2
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Think. You can measure in time only the Degrees of Arc per second of the Suns motion. Its actual speed cannot be measured. You cannot factually deny it speeds up and slows down.

This is an example of how simple logic and math is either ignored or escapes the Globers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83974880


Yep, 15 degrees per hour.
It's the same in the north as it is in the south.
However, since in a flat earth model the sun moves over the surface of the earth you can measure it's groundspeed which is faster over the southern tropic as it is over the northern tropic because it has to travel a greater distance in thr south...


cool2
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ball earthers cant explain how the moon is now seen during the day when always when i was young it was only at night
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It's because book of Enoch chapter 80.

But thanks for publicly displaying your mental malfunction
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Flat Earthers are devoid on logic and reason.

They are incapable of understanding the simplest of scientific methods used to prove the earth is round, especially math.

I suspect they frequently bounce checks or find their EBT cards empty.
 Quoting: GORGLESNARGLE


Is that your proof that the Earth is a ball?
 Quoting: leader


You have no proof for a flat earth.
You cannot ignore the fact in the OP...

cool2
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Curved water cannot be shown any place on Earth. The only alternative is Flat Earth. Lol.
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Check the pic:

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First time sailors worried about falling off the edge of the ocean I'm convinced were being trolled.





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