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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78107266  United States08/08/2022 08:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Delusional ballers cant explain why Polaris is always in the same place but we are hurtling through space at 666k miles per hour. Dumbass OP That is actually quite easy, Polaris has moved over millions of years, it just moves very slowly in the sky. [link to earthsky.org (secure)] The North Star, also known as Polaris, appears to stay fixed in our northern sky. It marks the location of the sky’s north pole, or the north celestial pole, the point around which the whole northern sky – full of stars – turns. That’s why you can always use Polaris to find the direction north. So the North Star doesn’t appear to move. But it does move. If you took its picture, you’d find that it makes its own little circle around the exact point of the north celestial pole every day. That’s because the North Star is offset a little – by about 0.65 degrees – from celestial north. So Polaris makes a circle that’s 1.3 degrees in diameter each day. When it’s closest to the celestial pole in about 100 years, at a distance of only 0.45 degrees, it’ll make a daily circle of only 0.90 degrees. Where does this movement – or in Polaris’ case, lack of movement – come from? It comes from Earth’s spin. Earth spins under the sky once a day, and our spin causes the sun in the daytime – and the stars at night – to rise in the east and set in the west. But the North Star is a special case. Because it lies almost exactly above Earth’s northern axis, it’s like the hub of a wheel. It doesn’t rise or set. Instead, it appears to stay put in the northern sky. But it does move and it's movement is tied to the rotation of the Earth. This from a dumb poster that thinks radio waves are transmitted via satellites lol. You copy and paste everything. Use your own brain. Polaris never moves and has never moved over the years. Stop with the copy and paste lies. Telstar was the first satellite that allowed radio and TV signals (actually harder to relay) to be sent AROUND the world. Included in this simple tune is the actual radio carrier wave signal that was used to fine tune the reception of the TV signals it rebroadcast from Europe. I am shocked at how dull you must be not to understand the basics of what this world has accomplished in the short time I have been on this planet... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 83765404  United Kingdom08/08/2022 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Delusional ballers cant explain why Polaris is always in the same place but we are hurtling through space at 666k miles per hour. Dumbass OP That is actually quite easy, Polaris has moved over millions of years, it just moves very slowly in the sky. [link to earthsky.org (secure)] The North Star, also known as Polaris, appears to stay fixed in our northern sky. It marks the location of the sky’s north pole, or the north celestial pole, the point around which the whole northern sky – full of stars – turns. That’s why you can always use Polaris to find the direction north. So the North Star doesn’t appear to move. But it does move. If you took its picture, you’d find that it makes its own little circle around the exact point of the north celestial pole every day. That’s because the North Star is offset a little – by about 0.65 degrees – from celestial north. So Polaris makes a circle that’s 1.3 degrees in diameter each day. When it’s closest to the celestial pole in about 100 years, at a distance of only 0.45 degrees, it’ll make a daily circle of only 0.90 degrees. Where does this movement – or in Polaris’ case, lack of movement – come from? It comes from Earth’s spin. Earth spins under the sky once a day, and our spin causes the sun in the daytime – and the stars at night – to rise in the east and set in the west. But the North Star is a special case. Because it lies almost exactly above Earth’s northern axis, it’s like the hub of a wheel. It doesn’t rise or set. Instead, it appears to stay put in the northern sky. But it does move and it's movement is tied to the rotation of the Earth. This from a dumb poster that thinks radio waves are transmitted via satellites lol. You copy and paste everything. Use your own brain. Polaris never moves and has never moved over the years. Stop with the copy and paste lies. Telstar was the first satellite that allowed radio and TV signals (actually harder to relay) to be sent AROUND the world. Included in this simple tune is the actual radio carrier wave signal that was used to fine tune the reception of the TV signals it rebroadcast from Europe. I am shocked at how dull you must be not to understand the basics of what this world has accomplished in the short time I have been on this planet... What school did you go? Radio waves have been transmitted around the world since the 1800s! |
| 11Pythagoras11 User ID: 83619168 United States08/08/2022 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this image shows the distance from the north pole to the equator and tropics on your platterdome flat earth ... Quoting: 11Pythagoras11 it doesnt matter how far antarctica is or how far it extends.....we're just measuring the radius the sun must travel at the equinoxes and solstices as it circles the earth around the north pole in 24 hours ....... [imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] as you can see......if you fly around the equator of the platterdome earth....you travel nearly 40,000 miles.....so in 24 hours that means the sun is traveling at 1,628 mph across the sky.... on the summer solstice when the sun is overhead at the tropic of cancer.....the sun would be putting along at 1,205 mph... and at the winter solstice....over the tropic of capricorn the sun would be barreling along at 2,052 mph in order to travel 49,250 miles in 24 hours..... so lets pretend we have no idea how far the sun is or how big it is.....or even how fast its going.... all we have to do is aim our solar filter at the sun....with the crosshair on the leading limb edge of the solar disk.....and time how long it takes to travel one diameter until the crosshair is on the trailing edge of the solar disk...... [Imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] the sun subtends an angle of about .5 degrees....and moves its own diameter in about 2 minutes..... so lets take that to be the speed at the equinox when the sun is over the equator.....traveling 1,628 mph.... this means that during the northern hemisphere summer solstice...when the sun travels only 1,205 mph over the tropic of cancer....it would take 150 seconds to travel one of its own diameters across the sky.... and at the winter solstice over the tropic of capricorn....the sun would only take 90 seconds to lap its own diameter...... this is a whopping 60 second difference.....and would be easily detected with a solar filter and a stopwatch..... this would be breaking doom news all over the world..... so all you flat earthers.....get out there and measure the speed of the sun and destroy the globe earthers once and for all...!! (dont forget your solar filter or you'll burn your eyes out..!!) See what I mean...??? I literally hand them the key to destroying the globe earth model and easily proving their flat earth model... And they completely ignore it to go off topic on other subjects.... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76946058 United States08/08/2022 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Flat Earthers are devoid on logic and reason. Quoting: GORGLESNARGLE They are incapable of understanding the simplest of scientific methods used to prove the earth is round, especially math. I suspect they frequently bounce checks or find their EBT cards empty. Is that your proof that the Earth is a ball? how about all the pictures of a round earth from the apolo missions? thats right you think NASA is in on the deception. Mythbusters did an episode on the U2 spy plane Adam was able to film while flying. in that episod, the ccurve of the earth is clearly seen. we have satalight pictures of the round earth from space you can get a telescope out an look at other planets and see they are round, have a spin. in highschool physics we calcuated the acceleration of gravity at our location. we also calcuated a number of facts about our solar system. you are surrounded with proof if you could open your eyes and mind |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76729987 United States08/08/2022 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To better understand the argument you have to imagine the flat earth map. When the sun is north of the equator where the circumference in the flat earth map is smaller, the sun moves slowly, and when it's south of the equator, because the circumference is greater, then the sun has to move faster, to trick us. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81867741 The flat earth map always shows a circular path for sun and moon but it would have to be a cork-screw ellipse, where the sun speeds up the further from the south pole it goes in order to give the same daylight hours as in the north. You get it. Thanks for clarifying it in other words...   |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78431408  Germany08/08/2022 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's simple. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83087247 If one fact does not work, the whole theory does not work and is out the door. You have the tropics between which the sun travels, which creates the seasons. On a flat earth the sun has to, mysteriously, spiral in and outwards between the two. Now, the northern one (circle to travel) is smaller then the southern one on a flat earth. That means the sun has to travel faster when it's over the tropic of capricorn then when it's over the tropic of cancer. Fact. The sun travels at the same speed in the northern hemosphere as it does in the southern hemosphere! So, there is no flat earth. No matter what all other arguments may be. A flat earth does not match the above mentioned fact and observation and thus the theory is invalid. Think. You can measure in time only the Degrees of Arc per second of the Suns motion. Its actual speed cannot be measured. You cannot factually deny it speeds up and slows down. This is an example of how simple logic and math is either ignored or escapes the Globers. Yep, 15 degrees per hour. It's the same in the north as it is in the south. However, since in a flat earth model the sun moves over the surface of the earth you can measure it's ground speed which is faster over the southern tropic as it is over the northern tropic because it has to travel a greater distance in the south...     |
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| Daniel of the Rose
User ID: 79067217 United States08/08/2022 09:31 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, you have developed a good basis for a conjecture that the earth is a ball. Now all you have to do is find the ball earth, because I keep looking but can't find it: Quoting: leader I've found it through reasoning and traveling around the world. The sun travels with the same speed throughout the year which means no flat earth... is this fucking Bill Nye ... that still does nothing....to so called know more...you are fake smart....like learning klingon....means crap....sure you can speak it well means crap if no one else does... welcome to the firmament baby....judgement day is coming....! DOME EDOM Last Edited by Daniel of the Rose on 08/08/2022 09:33 AM   |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76600807 Germany08/08/2022 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83974880 Curved water cannot be shown any place on Earth. The only alternative is Flat Earth. Lol. Again, one single fact can destroy a theory. Mine does. As I predicted FE'ers will come with all kind of so called facts and ignore the one that destroys their theory... YOU'VE CONFUSED FATCS WITH EXPLANATIONS. YOU HAVE PROVIDED AN EXCELLENT EXPLANATION, BUT IT ISN'T A FACT UNTIL IT IS PROVEN. I PROVIDED TWO FACTS AND YOU HAVEN'T ADDRESSED EITHER ONE. TO THE HUMAN SPECIES THERE EXISTS NO PERCEPTION OF THE MOVEMENT OF THE EARTH DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO APPREHEND EVERY OTHER KIND OF MOVEMENT. AND WE CANNOT PERCEIVE ANY VISUAL OBSERVATION OF CURVATURE. Not only has the movement of the Earth never been perceived, it has also never been scientifically detected/measured. Do your research on the Ring Laser Gyroscope. Then watch a flat earther debunk himself with that precise and very expensive piece of equipment. He detects a 15 degree shift.  Bob Knodel & His Ring Laser Gyroscope Experiment... |
| 11Pythagoras11 User ID: 83617027 United States08/08/2022 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's simple. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83087247 If one fact does not work, the whole theory does not work and is out the door. You have the tropics between which the sun travels, which creates the seasons. On a flat earth the sun has to, mysteriously, spiral in and outwards between the two. Now, the northern one (circle to travel) is smaller then the southern one on a flat earth. That means the sun has to travel faster when it's over the tropic of capricorn then when it's over the tropic of cancer. Fact. The sun travels at the same speed in the northern hemosphere as it does in the southern hemosphere! So, there is no flat earth. No matter what all other arguments may be. A flat earth does not match the above mentioned fact and observation and thus the theory is invalid. Think. You can measure in time only the Degrees of Arc per second of the Suns motion. Its actual speed cannot be measured. You cannot factually deny it speeds up and slows down. This is an example of how simple logic and math is either ignored or escapes the Globers. I explained how you measure the sun's speed..... You don't measure the degrees per hour it travels....this stays the same.... You measure how long it takes to lap its own diameter.....it would be a whopping 60 second difference between the solstices.... Any1 can do this with a heavy piece of welding glass and a stopwatch....from any location on earth where the sun is visible..... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77650495 United States08/08/2022 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another thing Ferfers can’t explain: meteors, comets, impacts. If space doesn’t exist, neither do these things. What fucking sorcery are you stupid bastards gonna come up with to explain that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78087299 It’s quite simple actually: meteorites didn’t come from space; they are simply rocks (usually nickel iron) that resisted weathering and stayed behind on the surface. And meteors are an electric phenomena rather than a physical phenomena. |
| R User ID: 79009989 United States08/08/2022 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I enjoy the debate. I have not as of yet encountered an argument for Flearth that does not rely upon some misconception or flat out (NPI LOL) falsity. Best of all,....................... Why should I care? I don't. I happen to live here, regardless of whatever BS is propagated. |
| MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States08/08/2022 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83087247 Again, one single fact can destroy a theory. Mine does. As I predicted FE'ers will come with all kind of so called facts and ignore the one that destroys their theory... YOU'VE CONFUSED FATCS WITH EXPLANATIONS. YOU HAVE PROVIDED AN EXCELLENT EXPLANATION, BUT IT ISN'T A FACT UNTIL IT IS PROVEN. I PROVIDED TWO FACTS AND YOU HAVEN'T ADDRESSED EITHER ONE. TO THE HUMAN SPECIES THERE EXISTS NO PERCEPTION OF THE MOVEMENT OF THE EARTH DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO APPREHEND EVERY OTHER KIND OF MOVEMENT. AND WE CANNOT PERCEIVE ANY VISUAL OBSERVATION OF CURVATURE. Not only has the movement of the Earth never been perceived, it has also never been scientifically detected/measured. Do your research on the Ring Laser Gyroscope. Then watch a flat earther debunk himself with that precise and very expensive piece of equipment. He detects a 15 degree shift. Bob Knodel & His Ring Laser Gyroscope Experiment...  Bob Knodel, 15 deg. drift, didn't seek to find the truth, he sought to prove his bias and he failed. Flat earth was all a scam, but fools still need to be fooled. Bob Knodel Confirmed it.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 82303678 United States08/08/2022 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: GORGLESNARGLE That is actually quite easy, Polaris has moved over millions of years, it just moves very slowly in the sky. [link to earthsky.org (secure)] The North Star, also known as Polaris, appears to stay fixed in our northern sky. It marks the location of the sky’s north pole, or the north celestial pole, the point around which the whole northern sky – full of stars – turns. That’s why you can always use Polaris to find the direction north. So the North Star doesn’t appear to move. But it does move. If you took its picture, you’d find that it makes its own little circle around the exact point of the north celestial pole every day. That’s because the North Star is offset a little – by about 0.65 degrees – from celestial north. So Polaris makes a circle that’s 1.3 degrees in diameter each day. When it’s closest to the celestial pole in about 100 years, at a distance of only 0.45 degrees, it’ll make a daily circle of only 0.90 degrees. Where does this movement – or in Polaris’ case, lack of movement – come from? It comes from Earth’s spin. Earth spins under the sky once a day, and our spin causes the sun in the daytime – and the stars at night – to rise in the east and set in the west. But the North Star is a special case. Because it lies almost exactly above Earth’s northern axis, it’s like the hub of a wheel. It doesn’t rise or set. Instead, it appears to stay put in the northern sky. But it does move and it's movement is tied to the rotation of the Earth. This from a dumb poster that thinks radio waves are transmitted via satellites lol. You copy and paste everything. Use your own brain. Polaris never moves and has never moved over the years. Stop with the copy and paste lies. Telstar was the first satellite that allowed radio and TV signals (actually harder to relay) to be sent AROUND the world. Included in this simple tune is the actual radio carrier wave signal that was used to fine tune the reception of the TV signals it rebroadcast from Europe. I am shocked at how dull you must be not to understand the basics of what this world has accomplished in the short time I have been on this planet... What school did you go? Radio waves have been transmitted around the world since the 1800s! Your claim was that satellites cannot broadcast radio signals, it is my claim that they all do to some extent for a good many reasons. In the case of Telstar the radio signal was used transmit television signals and to allow ground stations to tune their receivers to get the best available signals. By the Flat Earther... :htraetalf: “Around the world” Read what you said slowly aloud... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 83838640 United States08/08/2022 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's simple. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83087247 If one fact does not work, the whole theory does not work and is out the door. You have the tropics between which the sun travels, which creates the seasons. On a flat earth the sun has to, mysteriously, spiral in and outwards between the two. Now, the northern one (circle to travel) is smaller then the southern one on a flat earth. That means the sun has to travel faster when it's over the tropic of capricorn then when it's over the tropic of cancer. Fact. The sun travels at the same speed in the northern hemosphere as it does in the southern hemosphere! So, there is no flat earth. No matter what all other arguments may be. A flat earth does not match the above mentioned fact and observation and thus the theory is invalid. Yeah but the tilt of the entire Earth ball seems more reasonable? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 83838640 United States08/08/2022 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's simple. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83087247 If one fact does not work, the whole theory does not work and is out the door. You have the tropics between which the sun travels, which creates the seasons. On a flat earth the sun has to, mysteriously, spiral in and outwards between the two. Now, the northern one (circle to travel) is smaller then the southern one on a flat earth. That means the sun has to travel faster when it's over the tropic of capricorn then when it's over the tropic of cancer. Fact. The sun travels at the same speed in the northern hemosphere as it does in the southern hemosphere! So, there is no flat earth. No matter what all other arguments may be. A flat earth does not match the above mentioned fact and observation and thus the theory is invalid. Yeah but the tilt of the entire Earth ball seems more reasonable? |
| MrJustNsane
User ID: 76888750 United States08/08/2022 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I recently had a mental dilemma where i couldnt understand why it was winter in Australia and summer in America, so before your brain signals you to red flag me, consider this, if at Christmas time its said to be the winter solstace the point that the earth is farthest from the sun, then how is it summertime in Australia if the whole earth is farthest away from the sun, then its reversed for the summer solstace where we are supposed to be closest to the sun, thats considered winter in Australia so dont try to say its the tilt of the earth because that doesnt explain so much distance. Quoting: TheTrollKing When one season is happening for either hemisphere the opposite is happening on the opposing side. Same throughout the seasons. Every 12960 years the seasons are cycled, summer time is now winter, etc. It's not the whole Earth, it's the tilt itself. Last Edited by MrJustNsane on 08/08/2022 08:43 PM |
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| JustmeTX
User ID: 80193276 United States08/09/2022 12:32 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because on the Flat Earth Map, it would take 3 times longer to circumnavigate Antarctica. The observed sailing transit times in the Vendee Globe race would be impossible. [link to www.vendeeglobe.org (secure)] https://imgur.com/a64hBmChttps://imgur.com/Ixm3GxbLast Edited by JustmeTX on 08/09/2022 12:41 AM Justme |
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| MrCoolone
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 83765404 United Kingdom08/09/2022 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't respond to this inane thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83765404 It's like talking to 8 year olds. SAYS THE TRIGGERED FLAT EARTHTARD!!! It is undeniable that Flat Space Tards display they have lower than a 8th grade education, no answers, no college. Only denial and ignorance. DISMISSED!!! Look you idiot, if you have something to contribute then do so, we are all ears to your side of the post, or shut up. |
| MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States08/09/2022 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't respond to this inane thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83765404 It's like talking to 8 year olds. SAYS THE TRIGGERED FLAT EARTHTARD!!! It is undeniable that Flat Space Tards display they have lower than a 8th grade education, no answers, no college. Only denial and ignorance. DISMISSED!!! Look you idiot, if you have something to contribute then do so, we are all ears to your side of the post, or shut up. You idiot, you told all the earthtards, "Don't respond to this inane thread", and yet you have responded. That is defined as being a hypocritical idiot! DISMISSED!!! |
| MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States08/09/2022 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't respond to this inane thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83765404 It's like talking to 8 year olds. SAYS THE TRIGGERED FLAT EARTHTARD!!! It is undeniable that Flat Space Tards display they have lower than a 8th grade education, no answers, no college. Only denial and ignorance. DISMISSED!!! Look you idiot, if you have something to contribute then do so, we are all ears to your side of the post, or shut up. TRIGGERED, Here is a contribute then! The distance moon to earth 238,855 miles. The distance moon to sun is 92,955,828 miles Since the majority of flat earthtards don't have an 8th grade education, all a flat earthtard would have to do is to hire a licensed surveyor and have a geodetic survey completed to accomplish this goal. The licensed surveyor will strive for precision and accuracy, will make the corrections for C+R, the curvature of the earth plus lens refraction. A licensed surveyor is flawless and infinitely accurate in there measurements, day after day. Measurements that a flat earthtard will never be able to accomplish do to their bias, denial and ignorance. These measurement are repeatable on a global scale. When a Flat earthtard tells an employer that they're indeed a flat earthtard, they are telling them that they are incapable of being educated, they rather sit around on their lazy ass looking at flat earth porn and lucky if they can count to 10. |
| MrCoolone
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| No Need
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79915034 United States08/10/2022 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | disapprove the globe? its quite simple. according to what your told the size of the globe is if a person is 6ft tall, the horizon would be 3 miles away. if someone was 3 miles past that, also 6 ft tall, they wouldnt be able to see eachother. And thats where the problem lies. With digital cameras you can easily see them if theyre 6 miles apart, 10 miles apart, 20 miles apart, 40 miles apart ect. It makes no difference. As long as you can see through that much of the atmosphere you can see them. With infrared imaging even farther, even if you account for "high refraction" its still EXTREMELY farther than you should be able to. The best part about this is you can do it yourself to verify. |
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