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Elijah The Fiery Chariot User ID: 81775731 United Kingdom 01/06/2022 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And "Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?" - Lord Jesus in Matthew 7:3 But you do not see my eye. 144,000?, they are my faithful and true spacesheep. And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And he [Sabaoth the Lord of hosts and heaven armies] who was sitting upon it was called Faithful and True. And with justice does he judge and fight. And his eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, having a name written, which no one knows except himself. And he was clothed with a vestment sprinkled with blood. And his name is called: THE WORD OF GOD. And the armies that are in heaven were following him on white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he [Lord Jesus] shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he [Elijah the prophet] treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And he has on his garment and on his thigh written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. - Revelation 19:11-16 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80073599 United States 01/06/2022 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Addicts say the same thing with everything they create, too. FACT: Going all the way back to Egypt's first dynasty, hallucinogenic drug use was widespread even in ancient times -especially among temple Priests and prophets- and the Bible is composed primarily of dreams and visions and inner voices. Quoting: GSB/LTD And Holy texts even encourage the use of all things from nature: "...thou shall eat the herb of the field." - GENESIS 3:18 "...eat every herb of the land." - EXODUS 10:12 "Better is a dinner of herb where love is, than a stalled Ox or hatred therewith." PROVERBS 15:17 Throughout history -and in virtually all cultures- prophets and shamans alike have used mind-altering drugs to connect with a higher power [no pun intended] and even today wine is featured in most sacraments to consecrate that holy bond. I'm simply saying it's all a matter of perspective and there is certainly enough archaeological evidence to suggest an alternative origin for those ancient texts. For all we know, Moses may have actually been a raging Opium-eater... especially since as a young man he studied with the highest-ranking temple priests of the Pharaoh's court. [link to www.timesofisrael.com (secure)] Fuck off demon What part of "Judge ye not..." don't you embrace? I wouldn't utter that kind of epithet to you. And everything I've presented herein has been most civil in content, so why the aggression? A faith so fragile must be a terrible burden to bear. waisting your time with this fool sadly |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76946058 United States 01/06/2022 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And "Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?" - Lord Jesus in Matthew 7:3 Quoting: Elijah The Fiery Chariot 81775731 But you do not see my eye. 144,000?, they are my faithful and true spacesheep. And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And he [Sabaoth the Lord of hosts and heaven armies] who was sitting upon it was called Faithful and True. And with justice does he judge and fight. And his eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, having a name written, which no one knows except himself. And he was clothed with a vestment sprinkled with blood. And his name is called: THE WORD OF GOD. And the armies that are in heaven were following him on white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he [Lord Jesus] shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he [Elijah the prophet] treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And he has on his garment and on his thigh written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. - Revelation 19:11-16 Perfect, just what this thread needs some watch tower junk added in. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80308313 Pakistan 01/06/2022 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here is the rest of it --> Shem - name Arphaxad - healer Cainan - sorrow Sala - man of peace Heber - enclave Phalec - division Ragau - friend, shepherd Saruch - branch Nachor - hoarse,dry, hot also possibly snorer (sleeper ) Thara - wanderer ( or Tharah - breath, scent, blow ) Abraham - father Isaac - one who rejoices Jacob - supplenter Judah - praise Phares - division, rupture Esrom - dart of joy Aram - high Aminadab - noble kinsmen Naasson - foretells Salmon - peaceable, perfect Boaz - swift, strong Obed - servant of god, worshiper Jesse - king, gods gift David - beloved Nathan - gift of god Mattatha - gift Menan - prepared, rewarded Melea - complete, full Eliakim - god rises Jonam - gift from god Joseph - he will add Judah - praise Simeon - to hear, reputation Levi - united Matthat - gift of god Jorim - exalted Eliezer - god is my help Jose - he shall add Er - observant Elmodam - measure , garment Cosam - divining Addi - noble Melchi - king Neri - candle, lamp Salathiel - lent of god Zorobabel - stranger of babilon Rhesa - will, course Joannan - god is gracious Juda - praise Joseph - he will add Semei - hearing, obeying Mattathias - gift of god Maath - wiping way, breaking, smiting Nagge - brightness, light Esli - who separates Naum - comforter Amos - to carry Mattathias - gift of god Joseph- he will add Jannai - flourishing Melchi - king Levi - united Matthat - gift of god Heli - ascending Joseph - he will add Jesus - to deliver, to rescue this based on the Luke's genealogy [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76946058 United States 01/06/2022 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Weyoun THey try to be. And the higher they climb, the harder they fall. The purpose of the tower of babel was built so they can go to heaven and make a name for themselves. That means to put their own name down on heaven to claim it as their own, like staking claim on a land. That's the same sin as satan. Satan fell hard too. Come on. Now you're just making stuff up. The Great Pyramid of Giza is the 'Tower' of Babel - otherwise known as the Pillar of Enoch or simply Michael, the first witness. All in the video. It's still standing there beside the Nile with his arms outstretched to the celestial-heavens clothed in sackcloth. (Once covered in polished white Tura limestone - sackcloth). Why do conquerors name places after themselves? Like Stalingrad, or America, or Alexandria? "And they said, 'Come, let us build for ourselves a city, and a tower whose top will reach into heaven, and let us make for ourselves a name; lest we be scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth.'" - Genesis 11:4 Dudes thought they could conquer heaven! So the Lord wanted his people to spread out, but because of one building he put a plan into action...? No wrong. The Earth was already covered in the Tower of Babel Kingdom and people don't see it - Thomas The Great Pyramid has celestial shafts. The two out of the Kings Chamber reach into the heavens. The interior of the GP is a layout of our solar system. You don't understand what the Great Pyramid is - nor does a rudimentary understanding of scripture. You don't understand the epic story in Genesis either. The tower of Babel was a culmination of generations of death, destruction and evil that started when Adam opted to define good and evil for himself. The fall of Adam pushed humans out of the Sacred space we call the garden. Things got so bad a few generations later, YHWH sent a flood as a way to preserve what little righteousness he could find (Noah), the tower of babal was yet another crisis point in the same culmination of evil. Deut. 32 talks about the Babal story as well describing how YHWY assigned the created Elohim in the spiritual realm as guides to the 71 nations created when he scattered the people. But YHWH was also clear that HIS portion is the nation of Abraham, who He was going to train up to be an example to the other nations and as a vehicle to implement his rescue plan so Humans can be restored as if the fall never happened. It is all one cohesive narrative. Babylonian texts document the arrival of these assigned Elohim/guides as god's. Unfortunately these appointed Elohim rebelled against YHWH and CORRUPTED thier assigned nations and directed that corruption against the nation of Abraham. In context of the epic narrative of Genesis, the problem at babal wasn't a building but yet another iteration of the idea that HUMANS define good and evil, that YHWH can be subjugated based on Mans rules, efforts and deeds. The building was just a representation of that destructive and evil spirit started by Adam. If you want to make the case the population was already there, that the GP is the tower, ok, still doesn't change the theological messaging of the biblical account. This also puts you at a cross roads, will you continue to take bites out of that forbidden fruit, defining good and evil on your own terms or will you take seriously the epic story of Genesis our human failure and seek out the rescue plan that restores you to your original state as a human? |
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User ID: 81779369 United States 01/06/2022 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's a rehash of the Sumerian epics with some grimoires and spell books thrown in (now canonised) Quoting: ))Tem Ohp Ab(( Your opinion - conclusion based on ASSumptions. Nothing more. Ancient artifacts like the Sumerian tablets / Egyptian papyrus do NOT prove that the "original" story, as the Bible tells us, is a copy of something else. They merely record what that specific society believed at that moment in history. Similarity does NOT PROVE direct association nor origination. Historical existence does not prove "origin of story". "Concensus of scholars" isn't "proof of fact". Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79009989 United States 01/07/2022 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Humanitarianlike Come on. Now you're just making stuff up. The Great Pyramid of Giza is the 'Tower' of Babel - otherwise known as the Pillar of Enoch or simply Michael, the first witness. All in the video. It's still standing there beside the Nile with his arms outstretched to the celestial-heavens clothed in sackcloth. (Once covered in polished white Tura limestone - sackcloth). Why do conquerors name places after themselves? Like Stalingrad, or America, or Alexandria? "And they said, 'Come, let us build for ourselves a city, and a tower whose top will reach into heaven, and let us make for ourselves a name; lest we be scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth.'" - Genesis 11:4 Dudes thought they could conquer heaven! So the Lord wanted his people to spread out, but because of one building he put a plan into action...? No wrong. The Earth was already covered in the Tower of Babel Kingdom and people don't see it - Thomas The Great Pyramid has celestial shafts. The two out of the Kings Chamber reach into the heavens. The interior of the GP is a layout of our solar system. You don't understand what the Great Pyramid is - nor does a rudimentary understanding of scripture. You don't understand the epic story in Genesis either. The tower of Babel was a culmination of generations of death, destruction and evil that started when Adam opted to define good and evil for himself. The fall of Adam pushed humans out of the Sacred space we call the garden. Things got so bad a few generations later, YHWH sent a flood as a way to preserve what little righteousness he could find (Noah), the tower of babal was yet another crisis point in the same culmination of evil. Deut. 32 talks about the Babal story as well describing how YHWY assigned the created Elohim in the spiritual realm as guides to the 71 nations created when he scattered the people. But YHWH was also clear that HIS portion is the nation of Abraham, who He was going to train up to be an example to the other nations and as a vehicle to implement his rescue plan so Humans can be restored as if the fall never happened. It is all one cohesive narrative. Babylonian texts document the arrival of these assigned Elohim/guides as god's. Unfortunately these appointed Elohim rebelled against YHWH and CORRUPTED thier assigned nations and directed that corruption against the nation of Abraham. In context of the epic narrative of Genesis, the problem at babal wasn't a building but yet another iteration of the idea that HUMANS define good and evil, that YHWH can be subjugated based on Mans rules, efforts and deeds. The building was just a representation of that destructive and evil spirit started by Adam. If you want to make the case the population was already there, that the GP is the tower, ok, still doesn't change the theological messaging of the biblical account. This also puts you at a cross roads, will you continue to take bites out of that forbidden fruit, defining good and evil on your own terms or will you take seriously the epic story of Genesis our human failure and seek out the rescue plan that restores you to your original state as a human? It is my understanding that the tower of babel was built three generations after the flood , from sun baked mud bricks. There are many pictures of Nimrods ziggurat available. In fact, search ziggurat images and it will be right there usually first. It may have been a copy of the GP, which may have survived the flood. |
Humanitarianlike
User ID: 78689367 United States 01/07/2022 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do conquerors name places after themselves? Like Stalingrad, or America, or Alexandria? Quoting: Weyoun Because they're assholes and they steal from the cultures they conquer - they steal the cultural heritage or worse yet attempt to kill it - wipe from Earth and history! Let's look at the origin for the name America. It's common knowledge if one does some research, that there was wide-spread serpent worship in the Americas. "James Pyrse researched an article written in the Theosophical Society magazine entitled “Lucifer”, which gave insight into the word “America.” He says that the chief god of the Mayan Indians in Central America was Quettzalcoatl / Kukulkan (“Plumed Serpent”, “Feathered Serpent”). In Peru this god was called Amaru and the territory known as Amaruca. Pyres states: “Amaruca is literally translated ‘Land of the Plumed Serpents’ (p. 45) – (Variation: ‘Land of the Great Plumed Serpents).” He claims that the name of America was derived from Amaruca, instead of after the explorer Amerigo Vespucci. This further proves that serpent worship was common throughout all cultures. “In the most prevalent versions of American history, the origin of the name America is attributed to the Italian explorer Amerigo Vespucci (notice the reptilian beneath Vespucci’s feet, climbing a column representing America — just another ‘coincidence’, nothing to worry about). " [link to humansarefree.com (secure)] Nothing to worry about except for stolen cultural heritages turned into something evil by religious organizations. How may statues and paintings come to mind of a person (usually male) standing on a dragon or serpent. The plumed serpent in the Americas is a shining example of a cultural belief. As I've stated many times here the main iconography at the archaic monuments are the sun and the serpent and for good reason. Good reasons for all of humanity. It has everything to do with the coming solar micro-nova that some institutions don't want you to know about. |
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User ID: 78689367 United States 01/07/2022 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And in fact, the plumed serpent beliefs that likely started in Peru transferred from the Inca, to the Olmec, to the Maya, to the Aztec and into southwestern US. Follow the beliefs you get the migration. From South to North, not across the Beringia land bridge North to South. A Montana man has the oldest DNA in America. He's a Blackfoot native and his bloodline has been traced back 55 generations to Arizona 17,000 years ago. His ancestors and ancestry came up from Pacific Islands northward. [link to www.livescience.com (secure)] History needs a re-righting and thankfully it's coming!! Truth will win out. |
Humanitarianlike
User ID: 78689367 United States 01/07/2022 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In some non-canonized works like book of Noah and 1 Enoch we're related that Lamech almost has a stroke when he first sees Noah and has to be consoled through Enoch via Methuselah. The description given for Noah at birth fits pretty well with an albino. Could Noah have been the first albino? Serious question! Last Edited by Humanitarianlike on 01/07/2022 11:35 AM |
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Ogmio The Fiery Merkabah User ID: 81782935 United Kingdom 01/07/2022 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here is the rest of it --> Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80308313 Phalec - division Phares - division, rupture Judah - praise this based on the Luke's genealogy [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Interesting on Judah and the House of David is in England, and I am praising Almighty Holy Yahweh our God with adoration, and with myriad angels singing sweetly and softly. O king, the Most High God gave to Nebuchadnezzar [G H.W 'King Akhenaten, Herod & Uzziah' Bush a.k.a Azazel the angel of perdition], your father, a kingdom and greatness, glory and honor. And because of the greatness that he gave to him, all peoples, tribes, and languages trembled and were afraid of him. Whomever he wished, he put to death; and whomever he wished, he destroyed; and whomever he wished, he exalted; and whomever he wished, he lowered. But when his heart was lifted up and his spirit was hardened in arrogance, he was deposed from the throne of his kingdom and his glory was taken away. And he was expelled from the sons of men, and so his heart was placed with the beasts, and his dwelling was with the wild donkeys, and he ate hay like an ox, and his body was drenched with the dew of heaven, until he realized that the Most High holds power over the kingdom of men, and that whoever he wishes, he will set over it. Likewise, you, and his son Belshazzar [G W 'King Antipas Herod' Bush], have not humbled your heart, though you knew all these things. But you have lifted yourself up against the Lord of heaven. And the vessels of his house have been presented before you. And you, and your nobles, and your wives, and your concubines, have drunk wine from them. Likewise, you have praised the gods of silver, and gold, and brass, iron, and wood and stone, who neither see, nor hear, nor feel, yet you have not glorified the God who holds your breath and all your ways in his hand. Therefore, he has sent the part of the hand which has written this, which has been inscribed. But this is the writing that has been decreed: MANE, THECEL, PHARES. And this is the interpretation of the words. MANE: God has numbered your kingdom and has finished it. THECEL: Have been weighed in the balances and found wanting. PHARES: your kingdom has been divided and has been given to the Medes and the Persians. - Daniel 5:18-28 Vulgate Bible Thread: So You Wanted To Know Who The Son Of Perdition Is? (Page 6) |
Metatron The Fiery Lucifer User ID: 81782935 United Kingdom 01/07/2022 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In some non-canonized works like book of Noah and 1 Enoch we're related that Lamech almost has a stroke when he first sees Noah and has to be consoled through Enoch via Methuselah. The description given for Noah at birth fits pretty well with an albino. Could Noah have been the first albino? Serious question! And does Albino eyes light up the room?, then again, why don't you find your own.. soul?. Could you have been the first fool who had annoyed most high Elohim Angel with seven zeals, promoting to Archangel with your provocation, and your downright blasphemies countless times?. But seriously, carry on regardless.. [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] He that is not with me, is against me: and he that gathereth not with me, scattereth abroad. For that reason, I say unto you [son of man], All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven [sons of] men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven in this world or in the future. - Lord Jesus in Matthew 12:30-32 Vulgate Bible |
Humanitarianlike
User ID: 78689367 United States 01/07/2022 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Humanitarianlike Come on. Now you're just making stuff up. The Great Pyramid of Giza is the 'Tower' of Babel - otherwise known as the Pillar of Enoch or simply Michael, the first witness. All in the video. It's still standing there beside the Nile with his arms outstretched to the celestial-heavens clothed in sackcloth. (Once covered in polished white Tura limestone - sackcloth). Why do conquerors name places after themselves? Like Stalingrad, or America, or Alexandria? "And they said, 'Come, let us build for ourselves a city, and a tower whose top will reach into heaven, and let us make for ourselves a name; lest we be scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth.'" - Genesis 11:4 Dudes thought they could conquer heaven! So the Lord wanted his people to spread out, but because of one building he put a plan into action...? No wrong. The Earth was already covered in the Tower of Babel Kingdom and people don't see it - Thomas The Great Pyramid has celestial shafts. The two out of the Kings Chamber reach into the heavens. The interior of the GP is a layout of our solar system. You don't understand what the Great Pyramid is - nor does a rudimentary understanding of scripture. You don't understand the epic story in Genesis either. The tower of Babel was a culmination of generations of death, destruction and evil that started when Adam opted to define good and evil for himself. The fall of Adam pushed humans out of the Sacred space we call the garden. Things got so bad a few generations later, YHWH sent a flood as a way to preserve what little righteousness he could find (Noah), the tower of babal was yet another crisis point in the same culmination of evil. Deut. 32 talks about the Babal story as well describing how YHWY assigned the created Elohim in the spiritual realm as guides to the 71 nations created when he scattered the people. But YHWH was also clear that HIS portion is the nation of Abraham, who He was going to train up to be an example to the other nations and as a vehicle to implement his rescue plan so Humans can be restored as if the fall never happened. It is all one cohesive narrative. Babylonian texts document the arrival of these assigned Elohim/guides as god's. Unfortunately these appointed Elohim rebelled against YHWH and CORRUPTED thier assigned nations and directed that corruption against the nation of Abraham. In context of the epic narrative of Genesis, the problem at babal wasn't a building but yet another iteration of the idea that HUMANS define good and evil, that YHWH can be subjugated based on Mans rules, efforts and deeds. The building was just a representation of that destructive and evil spirit started by Adam. If you want to make the case the population was already there, that the GP is the tower, ok, still doesn't change the theological messaging of the biblical account. This also puts you at a cross roads, will you continue to take bites out of that forbidden fruit, defining good and evil on your own terms or will you take seriously the epic story of Genesis our human failure and seek out the rescue plan that restores you to your original state as a human? I'll address the paragraph of ac's that I bolded. Taking the ages of the first 10 patriarchs from Adam to Noah's at the time of their first borns comes to 1,556 years. Another 100 years, according to Genesis, before the flood when Noah was 600. That's a lot more than a few generations. The biblical Tower of Babel was likely the 'Etemenanki' built in Babylon. It was 91 meters tall (300 feet). Its Sumerian name E-temen-an-ki means "House of the foundation of heaven on earth". A ziggurat built for the Babylonian god Marduk. Cultures had different names for the same people/places/celestial objects - even for flood and creation stories. The story interpreted in Genesis is at best corrupted mythology, serving the purpose of hiding the truth. If my math is right from Adam to the building of the great ziggurat in Babylon had to have been about only 500 to 1,000 years after the Flood. This imo is too short an amount of time for humanity to have regrouped and even started to think about building elaborate temples like the Etemenaki - never mind we have a 9,000BC date for Gobekli Tepe (megalithic construction in Turkey) Something ain't right and that's no understatement. The proper usage of Tower of Babel would be .. Tower = Pinnacle (apex or pinnacle is a construction term) Babel = Civilization Pinnacle of Civilization And that is why when we humans were in the Pinnacle of our prior (pre-history) Civilization, we built great works. So, there is the Biblical story of Tower of Babel and an alternative one. Everyone has a choice. *btw Eve was told a human lifespan would be 120 years which is true today. In fact, the oldest known woman, Kane Tanaka, just celebrated her 119th BD. I'd suggest that the lengthy ages of the Patriarchs aren't years as we know them.. perhaps a metric version..!!? |
Humanitarianlike
User ID: 78689367 United States 01/07/2022 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In some non-canonized works like book of Noah and 1 Enoch we're related that Lamech almost has a stroke when he first sees Noah and has to be consoled through Enoch via Methuselah. The description given for Noah at birth fits pretty well with an albino. Could Noah have been the first albino? Serious question! And does Albino eyes light up the room? The reference could be that sunlight required Noah to squint even when he was in indoors during daytime. The perspective being Noah's. You agree then with the story, as told through 'non-approved' works of Noah and Enoch? Why wouldn't that story find its way into the bible? |
Weyoun
User ID: 81110693 United States 01/07/2022 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Weyoun Why do conquerors name places after themselves? Like Stalingrad, or America, or Alexandria? "And they said, 'Come, let us build for ourselves a city, and a tower whose top will reach into heaven, and let us make for ourselves a name; lest we be scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth.'" - Genesis 11:4 Dudes thought they could conquer heaven! So the Lord wanted his people to spread out, but because of one building he put a plan into action...? No wrong. The Earth was already covered in the Tower of Babel Kingdom and people don't see it - Thomas The Great Pyramid has celestial shafts. The two out of the Kings Chamber reach into the heavens. The interior of the GP is a layout of our solar system. You don't understand what the Great Pyramid is - nor does a rudimentary understanding of scripture. You don't understand the epic story in Genesis either. The tower of Babel was a culmination of generations of death, destruction and evil that started when Adam opted to define good and evil for himself. The fall of Adam pushed humans out of the Sacred space we call the garden. Things got so bad a few generations later, YHWH sent a flood as a way to preserve what little righteousness he could find (Noah), the tower of babal was yet another crisis point in the same culmination of evil. Deut. 32 talks about the Babal story as well describing how YHWY assigned the created Elohim in the spiritual realm as guides to the 71 nations created when he scattered the people. But YHWH was also clear that HIS portion is the nation of Abraham, who He was going to train up to be an example to the other nations and as a vehicle to implement his rescue plan so Humans can be restored as if the fall never happened. It is all one cohesive narrative. Babylonian texts document the arrival of these assigned Elohim/guides as god's. Unfortunately these appointed Elohim rebelled against YHWH and CORRUPTED thier assigned nations and directed that corruption against the nation of Abraham. In context of the epic narrative of Genesis, the problem at babal wasn't a building but yet another iteration of the idea that HUMANS define good and evil, that YHWH can be subjugated based on Mans rules, efforts and deeds. The building was just a representation of that destructive and evil spirit started by Adam. If you want to make the case the population was already there, that the GP is the tower, ok, still doesn't change the theological messaging of the biblical account. This also puts you at a cross roads, will you continue to take bites out of that forbidden fruit, defining good and evil on your own terms or will you take seriously the epic story of Genesis our human failure and seek out the rescue plan that restores you to your original state as a human? I'll address the paragraph of ac's that I bolded. Taking the ages of the first 10 patriarchs from Adam to Noah's at the time of their first borns comes to 1,556 years. Another 100 years, according to Genesis, before the flood when Noah was 600. That's a lot more than a few generations. The biblical Tower of Babel was likely the 'Etemenanki' built in Babylon. It was 91 meters tall (300 feet). Its Sumerian name E-temen-an-ki means "House of the foundation of heaven on earth". A ziggurat built for the Babylonian god Marduk. Cultures had different names for the same people/places/celestial objects - even for flood and creation stories. The story interpreted in Genesis is at best corrupted mythology, serving the purpose of hiding the truth. If my math is right from Adam to the building of the great ziggurat in Babylon had to have been about only 500 to 1,000 years after the Flood. This imo is too short an amount of time for humanity to have regrouped and even started to think about building elaborate temples like the Etemenaki - never mind we have a 9,000BC date for Gobekli Tepe (megalithic construction in Turkey) Something ain't right and that's no understatement. The proper usage of Tower of Babel would be .. Tower = Pinnacle (apex or pinnacle is a construction term) Babel = Civilization Pinnacle of Civilization And that is why when we humans were in the Pinnacle of our prior (pre-history) Civilization, we built great works. So, there is the Biblical story of Tower of Babel and an alternative one. Everyone has a choice. *btw Eve was told a human lifespan would be 120 years which is true today. In fact, the oldest known woman, Kane Tanaka, just celebrated her 119th BD. I'd suggest that the lengthy ages of the Patriarchs aren't years as we know them.. perhaps a metric version..!!? Tower of Bable is both metaphorical and real. Some "assholes" (as you called them) really did tried to conquer heaven, no doubt put up to the task by satan who also tried to conquer heaven. Metaphorically, it is any attempt of man to go his own way without God. Tower of Bable is any attempt by man to "reach the stars" or "conquer death" or similar through any means other than through Jesus. There is no 9,000 B.C. If archeological sepeculation contradicts the Bible, that means archeological speculation is wrong, not the Bible. |
Weyoun
User ID: 81110693 United States 01/07/2022 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Humanitarianlike So the Lord wanted his people to spread out, but because of one building he put a plan into action...? No wrong. The Earth was already covered in the Tower of Babel Kingdom and people don't see it - Thomas The Great Pyramid has celestial shafts. The two out of the Kings Chamber reach into the heavens. The interior of the GP is a layout of our solar system. You don't understand what the Great Pyramid is - nor does a rudimentary understanding of scripture. You don't understand the epic story in Genesis either. The tower of Babel was a culmination of generations of death, destruction and evil that started when Adam opted to define good and evil for himself. The fall of Adam pushed humans out of the Sacred space we call the garden. Things got so bad a few generations later, YHWH sent a flood as a way to preserve what little righteousness he could find (Noah), the tower of babal was yet another crisis point in the same culmination of evil. Deut. 32 talks about the Babal story as well describing how YHWY assigned the created Elohim in the spiritual realm as guides to the 71 nations created when he scattered the people. But YHWH was also clear that HIS portion is the nation of Abraham, who He was going to train up to be an example to the other nations and as a vehicle to implement his rescue plan so Humans can be restored as if the fall never happened. It is all one cohesive narrative. Babylonian texts document the arrival of these assigned Elohim/guides as god's. Unfortunately these appointed Elohim rebelled against YHWH and CORRUPTED thier assigned nations and directed that corruption against the nation of Abraham. In context of the epic narrative of Genesis, the problem at babal wasn't a building but yet another iteration of the idea that HUMANS define good and evil, that YHWH can be subjugated based on Mans rules, efforts and deeds. The building was just a representation of that destructive and evil spirit started by Adam. If you want to make the case the population was already there, that the GP is the tower, ok, still doesn't change the theological messaging of the biblical account. This also puts you at a cross roads, will you continue to take bites out of that forbidden fruit, defining good and evil on your own terms or will you take seriously the epic story of Genesis our human failure and seek out the rescue plan that restores you to your original state as a human? I'll address the paragraph of ac's that I bolded. Taking the ages of the first 10 patriarchs from Adam to Noah's at the time of their first borns comes to 1,556 years. Another 100 years, according to Genesis, before the flood when Noah was 600. That's a lot more than a few generations. The biblical Tower of Babel was likely the 'Etemenanki' built in Babylon. It was 91 meters tall (300 feet). Its Sumerian name E-temen-an-ki means "House of the foundation of heaven on earth". A ziggurat built for the Babylonian god Marduk. Cultures had different names for the same people/places/celestial objects - even for flood and creation stories. The story interpreted in Genesis is at best corrupted mythology, serving the purpose of hiding the truth. If my math is right from Adam to the building of the great ziggurat in Babylon had to have been about only 500 to 1,000 years after the Flood. This imo is too short an amount of time for humanity to have regrouped and even started to think about building elaborate temples like the Etemenaki - never mind we have a 9,000BC date for Gobekli Tepe (megalithic construction in Turkey) Something ain't right and that's no understatement. The proper usage of Tower of Babel would be .. Tower = Pinnacle (apex or pinnacle is a construction term) Babel = Civilization Pinnacle of Civilization And that is why when we humans were in the Pinnacle of our prior (pre-history) Civilization, we built great works. So, there is the Biblical story of Tower of Babel and an alternative one. Everyone has a choice. *btw Eve was told a human lifespan would be 120 years which is true today. In fact, the oldest known woman, Kane Tanaka, just celebrated her 119th BD. I'd suggest that the lengthy ages of the Patriarchs aren't years as we know them.. perhaps a metric version..!!? Tower of Bable is both metaphorical and real. Some "assholes" (as you called them) really did tried to conquer heaven, no doubt put up to the task by satan who also tried to conquer heaven. Metaphorically, it is any attempt of man to go his own way without God. Tower of Bable is any attempt by man to "reach the stars" or "conquer death" or similar through any means other than through Jesus. There is no 9,000 B.C. If archeological sepeculation contradicts the Bible, that means archeological speculation is wrong, not the Bible. Everything that man does is effected by the spiritual realm. All men are vessels, vessels of honor or dishonor, soldiers for Christ Jesus or soldiers for satan. Man, in his foolish arrogance, thinks he can be his own, but that is just a trick by satan to rebel from God and join satan. |
Elijah The Fiery Prophet User ID: 81782935 United Kingdom 01/07/2022 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In some non-canonized works like book of Noah and 1 Enoch we're related that Lamech almost has a stroke when he first sees Noah and has to be consoled through Enoch via Methuselah. The description given for Noah at birth fits pretty well with an albino. Could Noah have been the first albino? Serious question! And does Albino eyes light up the room?, then again, why don't you find your own.. soul?. Could you have been the first fool who had annoyed most high Elohim Angel with seven zeals, promoting to Archangel with your provocation, and your downright blasphemies countless times?. But seriously, carry on regardless.. [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] He that is not with me, is against me: and he that gathereth not with me, scattereth abroad. For that reason, I say unto you [son of man], All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven [sons of] men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven in this world or in the future. - Lord Jesus in Matthew 12:30-32 Vulgate Bible The reference could be that sunlight required Noah to squint even when he was in indoors during daytime. The perspective being Noah's. You agree then with the story, as told through 'non-approved' works of Noah and Enoch? Why wouldn't that story find its way into the bible? Why do you not recognize my speech? It is because you are not able to read my word. You are of your father, the devil. And you will carry out the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning. And he did not stand in the truth, because the truth is not in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks it from his own self. For he is a liar, and the father of lies. But if I speak the truth, you do not believe me.. anyway. [link to godlike.com (secure)] |
Humanitarianlike
User ID: 78689367 United States 01/07/2022 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76946058 You don't understand the epic story in Genesis either. The tower of Babel was a culmination of generations of death, destruction and evil that started when Adam opted to define good and evil for himself. The fall of Adam pushed humans out of the Sacred space we call the garden. Things got so bad a few generations later, YHWH sent a flood as a way to preserve what little righteousness he could find (Noah), the tower of babal was yet another crisis point in the same culmination of evil. Deut. 32 talks about the Babal story as well describing how YHWY assigned the created Elohim in the spiritual realm as guides to the 71 nations created when he scattered the people. But YHWH was also clear that HIS portion is the nation of Abraham, who He was going to train up to be an example to the other nations and as a vehicle to implement his rescue plan so Humans can be restored as if the fall never happened. It is all one cohesive narrative. Babylonian texts document the arrival of these assigned Elohim/guides as god's. Unfortunately these appointed Elohim rebelled against YHWH and CORRUPTED thier assigned nations and directed that corruption against the nation of Abraham. In context of the epic narrative of Genesis, the problem at babal wasn't a building but yet another iteration of the idea that HUMANS define good and evil, that YHWH can be subjugated based on Mans rules, efforts and deeds. The building was just a representation of that destructive and evil spirit started by Adam. If you want to make the case the population was already there, that the GP is the tower, ok, still doesn't change the theological messaging of the biblical account. This also puts you at a cross roads, will you continue to take bites out of that forbidden fruit, defining good and evil on your own terms or will you take seriously the epic story of Genesis our human failure and seek out the rescue plan that restores you to your original state as a human? I'll address the paragraph of ac's that I bolded. Taking the ages of the first 10 patriarchs from Adam to Noah's at the time of their first borns comes to 1,556 years. Another 100 years, according to Genesis, before the flood when Noah was 600. That's a lot more than a few generations. The biblical Tower of Babel was likely the 'Etemenanki' built in Babylon. It was 91 meters tall (300 feet). Its Sumerian name E-temen-an-ki means "House of the foundation of heaven on earth". A ziggurat built for the Babylonian god Marduk. Cultures had different names for the same people/places/celestial objects - even for flood and creation stories. The story interpreted in Genesis is at best corrupted mythology, serving the purpose of hiding the truth. If my math is right from Adam to the building of the great ziggurat in Babylon had to have been about only 500 to 1,000 years after the Flood. This imo is too short an amount of time for humanity to have regrouped and even started to think about building elaborate temples like the Etemenaki - never mind we have a 9,000BC date for Gobekli Tepe (megalithic construction in Turkey) Something ain't right and that's no understatement. The proper usage of Tower of Babel would be .. Tower = Pinnacle (apex or pinnacle is a construction term) Babel = Civilization Pinnacle of Civilization And that is why when we humans were in the Pinnacle of our prior (pre-history) Civilization, we built great works. So, there is the Biblical story of Tower of Babel and an alternative one. Everyone has a choice. *btw Eve was told a human lifespan would be 120 years which is true today. In fact, the oldest known woman, Kane Tanaka, just celebrated her 119th BD. I'd suggest that the lengthy ages of the Patriarchs aren't years as we know them.. perhaps a metric version..!!? Tower of Bable is both metaphorical and real. Some "assholes" (as you called them) really did tried to conquer heaven, no doubt put up to the task by satan who also tried to conquer heaven. Metaphorically, it is any attempt of man to go his own way without God. Tower of Bable is any attempt by man to "reach the stars" or "conquer death" or similar through any means other than through Jesus. There is no 9,000 B.C. If archeological sepeculation contradicts the Bible, that means archeological speculation is wrong, not the Bible. Everything that man does is effected by the spiritual realm. All men are vessels, vessels of honor or dishonor, soldiers for Christ Jesus or soldiers for satan. Man, in his foolish arrogance, thinks he can be his own, but that is just a trick by satan to rebel from God and join satan. There is no Satan or men who wanted to break into heaven. Do some honest research. Satan is an en-translated word. https://imgur.com/prxx7mC Meaning .. Shin (consume or destroy) Tet (a Snake or to surround) Nun (Life) The consuming and destroying snake that surrounds the whole of life. That would be Ouroborus of Heavens constellations. Revelation 20:7 - And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison.. As for your biblical tower of babel break into heaven nonsense. Get a clue.. [link to www.livius.org (secure)] |
Weyoun
User ID: 81110693 United States 01/07/2022 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Humanitarianlike I'll address the paragraph of ac's that I bolded. Taking the ages of the first 10 patriarchs from Adam to Noah's at the time of their first borns comes to 1,556 years. Another 100 years, according to Genesis, before the flood when Noah was 600. That's a lot more than a few generations. The biblical Tower of Babel was likely the 'Etemenanki' built in Babylon. It was 91 meters tall (300 feet). Its Sumerian name E-temen-an-ki means "House of the foundation of heaven on earth". A ziggurat built for the Babylonian god Marduk. Cultures had different names for the same people/places/celestial objects - even for flood and creation stories. The story interpreted in Genesis is at best corrupted mythology, serving the purpose of hiding the truth. If my math is right from Adam to the building of the great ziggurat in Babylon had to have been about only 500 to 1,000 years after the Flood. This imo is too short an amount of time for humanity to have regrouped and even started to think about building elaborate temples like the Etemenaki - never mind we have a 9,000BC date for Gobekli Tepe (megalithic construction in Turkey) Something ain't right and that's no understatement. The proper usage of Tower of Babel would be .. Tower = Pinnacle (apex or pinnacle is a construction term) Babel = Civilization Pinnacle of Civilization And that is why when we humans were in the Pinnacle of our prior (pre-history) Civilization, we built great works. So, there is the Biblical story of Tower of Babel and an alternative one. Everyone has a choice. *btw Eve was told a human lifespan would be 120 years which is true today. In fact, the oldest known woman, Kane Tanaka, just celebrated her 119th BD. I'd suggest that the lengthy ages of the Patriarchs aren't years as we know them.. perhaps a metric version..!!? Tower of Bable is both metaphorical and real. Some "assholes" (as you called them) really did tried to conquer heaven, no doubt put up to the task by satan who also tried to conquer heaven. Metaphorically, it is any attempt of man to go his own way without God. Tower of Bable is any attempt by man to "reach the stars" or "conquer death" or similar through any means other than through Jesus. There is no 9,000 B.C. If archeological sepeculation contradicts the Bible, that means archeological speculation is wrong, not the Bible. Everything that man does is effected by the spiritual realm. All men are vessels, vessels of honor or dishonor, soldiers for Christ Jesus or soldiers for satan. Man, in his foolish arrogance, thinks he can be his own, but that is just a trick by satan to rebel from God and join satan. There is no Satan or men who wanted to break into heaven. Do some honest research. Satan is an en-translated word. https://imgur.com/prxx7mC Meaning .. Shin (consume or destroy) Tet (a Snake or to surround) Nun (Life) The consuming and destroying snake that surrounds the whole of life. That would be Ouroborus of Heavens constellations. Revelation 20:7 - And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison.. As for your biblical tower of babel break into heaven nonsense. Get a clue.. [link to www.livius.org (secure)] Many here have shined the light for you, but you have to drink of the living water yourself. The choice is yours. |
TheWorldsEnemy
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Humanitarianlike
User ID: 78689367 United States 01/07/2022 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Weyoun Tower of Bable is both metaphorical and real. Some "assholes" (as you called them) really did tried to conquer heaven, no doubt put up to the task by satan who also tried to conquer heaven. Metaphorically, it is any attempt of man to go his own way without God. Tower of Bable is any attempt by man to "reach the stars" or "conquer death" or similar through any means other than through Jesus. There is no 9,000 B.C. If archeological sepeculation contradicts the Bible, that means archeological speculation is wrong, not the Bible. Everything that man does is effected by the spiritual realm. All men are vessels, vessels of honor or dishonor, soldiers for Christ Jesus or soldiers for satan. Man, in his foolish arrogance, thinks he can be his own, but that is just a trick by satan to rebel from God and join satan. There is no Satan or men who wanted to break into heaven. Do some honest research. Satan is an en-translated word. https://imgur.com/prxx7mC Meaning .. Shin (consume or destroy) Tet (a Snake or to surround) Nun (Life) The consuming and destroying snake that surrounds the whole of life. That would be Ouroborus of Heavens constellations. Revelation 20:7 - And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison.. As for your biblical tower of babel break into heaven nonsense. Get a clue.. [link to www.livius.org (secure)] Many here have shined the light for you, but you have to drink of the living water yourself. The choice is yours. One has to wonder why you'd need to attempt to keep harping the same stuff over and over with each of my many revelation's. Just remember, the confirming truth is in the 'Hall of Records' with all the proof needed for everyone from biblical scholar or preacher and believer to agnostic or non-believing atheist. Everything will be revealed. You all are aware that there is a global treasure hunt for ancient lost/hidden technology happening for centuries now and why we war and why in modern times we invaded Iraq and sent in unmarked personnel to the museums. It's definitely a dark world amigo.. but that doesn't require a God or a Satan - we'll chat again in the light of truth on another day perhaps! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78701318 01/07/2022 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Montana man has the oldest DNA in America. He's a Blackfoot native and his bloodline has been traced back 55 generations to Arizona 17,000 years ago. His ancestors and ancestry came up from Pacific Islands northward. Quoting: Humanitarianlike [link to www.livescience.com (secure)] History needs a re-righting and thankfully it's coming!! Truth will win out. If that's truth, I'm a poached egg. 17,000 / 55 = 309 Each generation was on average .. 309 years. Horseshit. |
Elijah The Lord Of Hosts User ID: 81782935 United Kingdom 01/07/2022 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And back to the title subject.. Proof the Bible was divinely inspired by Methusaleh.. Debunked this if you can. That was the original title, and you are also the devil, and father of lies. But this is not your first, nor shall be the last. Avoid a man who is a heretic, after the first and second correction, knowing that one who is like this has been subverted, and that he offends; for he has been condemned by his own judgment. - Titus 3:10-11 |
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