Proof the Bible was divinely inspired.. - STILL HASNT BEEN DEBUNKED AND CANT BE

In the Tower of Babel story, (which should be called the Tower of Babylon for Tower of Babel would be tower of confusion, which isn't the story), we learn that man was speaking one language and God disapproved so he came down and confused the language and scattered the people.

This story has merit, but I think many are confused about it.

Let's look at it from our perspective today. Soon, 10 maybe 20 years from now, books will be a thing of the past and might only be found in museums. Everything will be digitized and anybody in any country will be able to translate a digitized work to read it. This in essence, through technology, would make Earth a one-language planet.

Remember I've related that the Tower of Babel civilization was actually quite advanced - more so than us now but we are getting there. That is the gist of the Genesis story and soon we relive it.

Now as you say Weyoun, Earth will be wiped of much of man's works. One example would be large rolling tsunami's that wash everything into the ocean depths - likewise much gets buried on land and of course there will be ice sheets that wreck everything in their path.

When this happens, the lucky survivors will be literally fighting for their lives, and this could take generations.
Generations of no one being taught reading or writing skills due to a focus on survival.

BUT the oral stories will continue. The oral history of what took place will be passed down and then eventually they will be put onto scrolls and then into books.

That's what happened the last time around and why we have these biblical stories. Why many nations have flood stories. They have been collected by past warring conquests since Constantine and some have found a home in scripture by the time of KJV bible.

If God was perturbed by man 'reaching' into heaven, where might he stand today on the International Space Station??

Well that’s nowhere near correct. Firstly the Vulgate was made up of thousands of scrolls. These were put together in no particular order to create the Venus Latina. At this point it was heavily censored and altered.
Then when the pope had the Venus Latina edited to the Bible a lot was changed or left out so no it’s not inspired it is lies.

Now many scholars throughout history have interpreted the Vetus Latina and each one deciphers it differently.

Some of what you read in the bible is metaphorical truth but the majority is propaganda.

From Genesis chapter one:
29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.

Then from Genesis chapter two:
And the Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”

In the span of 17 verses God contradicts itself. And then we all become sinner's because Adam and Eve ate the fruit.

Says who?

I'm talking about the original writings of the Apostles.

Not the Vulgate writers.

Manuscripts, at the least, have lasted through...

-the Roman destruction of Israel & other wars in the Middle East of the 1st / 2nd Century
-the 200+ years of Roman persecution of Christians and Hebrews that began with Nero
-the "trinitarian" changes made to the Bible beginning around Tertullian's time
-the invasions / expansion of Islam that began after Muhammad's death in 632 AD

Even IF we didn't have manuscript fragments dating back to the 2nd century, scholars could "piece together" the 4 Gospels just from the writings of various church fathers.

---AD 96 Clement Bishop of Rome quotes / refers to 11 books used for the New Testament including Matthew, Mark and Luke.

---AD 108 Ignatius Bishop of Antioch quotes / refers to 24 books used for the New Testament including all 4 Gospels.

---AD 110 Polycarp Bishop of Smyrna quotes / refers to 18 books used for the New Testament including all 4 Gospels.

On TOP of that, there is a growing consensus that the first writings of the Gospels were in Hebrews & Aramaic.

Contradiction? Utter NONSENSE.

Where does the verse in Ch.1 say ANYTHING about the Garden of Eden?

It doesn't.

Chapter One - general statements
Chapter Two - details

The Word of God is spiritual and existed before time itself. Satan tries to be god but he can only counterfeit. Satan is the plagarizer, not God. God has always been and so has His Word, before any human oral stories, the Word of God was.

Tower of Babel was a counterfeit way like many other ways. Humanism is false idol and will wash away like house built on sand. The only way is Jesus. He is the rock is eternal. Build your house on the rock of Jesus. Don't go chasing after Babels.

ISS will pass away and be no more just like everything else of this world. This world is going bye bye. Don't be caught up in it. Only God's Kingdom is eternal.

its true

Tower of Babylon was an age like this age. That's what the story in Genesis is relaying.

Tower of Babel = Pinnacle of Civilization

It tells us that we were advanced like now and a great cataclysm spread us around Earth.

The Tower wasn't real?
Hogwash.

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Many contexts of 5he bible where written before the bible. The Bible is a book with those stories .

Tge biggest problem is Christians deny all pre dated historical accounts.

The pinnacle of civilization was pre-fall Adam and Eve, when man had unhindered communion with God and depended on Him for everything like a baby depends on the mother. Tower of Babel is humanity falling further downwards. Man, in his hubris, thought he was reaching upwards, but was only accelerating his downward spiral into hell. All ways without God leads to death and destruction.

"For the wisdom of this world is foolishness before God. For it is written, 'He is the one who catches the wise in their craftiness”'; and again, 'The Lord knows the reasonings of the wise, that they are useless.'" - 1 Corinthians 3:19-20

"There is a way which seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death." - Proverbs 14:12

Today, humanity continues to build Towers of Babel. They think they're reaching into heaven, but they're really reaching into hell. We can see it happening in real time with their reaction to the cold. God gave man natural cures in ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, vitamins, zinc, even milk. Yet man, in his hubris, intentionally reject God's provision and go after transhumanist abomination and child sacrifice, and in doing so, they create more hell for themselves. Imagine if the discoverer of penicillin had arrogantly rejected that provision from God and trashed it, instead opting for satanic ways of transhumanism and child sacrifice.

The "pinnacle" of man's own way is the depths of hell.

The Bible is the Word of God and is spiritual and has always existed. Before God created the world, His Word was. Satan has tried to counterfeit that and tricked the world, but all that is going bye bye. But God's Word is eternal.

Which megalithic monuments did Adam build in that garden?

Nothing of the bible has ever really been disproven or to be of a work from another work based off what the books of the bible itself are based off of

Did God tell him to build any? The pinnacle of man is to be God's child.

Yes, God told man to spread out, multiply, he did, and he built many great works around this planet - the Men of Old and Renown.

No one knows where the land of Shinar is. Could well have been in South America.

Machu Picchu 'Hanging Garden of Eden'

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The question was specificaly about Adam building megalithic monument in the garden. What matters most is if God specifically told him, specifically Adam, to do that specific task. Obedience to God is the only thing that matters.

Two man can build two pyramids and one is good and one is bad. How is this so? One man, let's say Joseph, does it by God's instruction, as God's vessel, then that is good. Another man does to out of hubris, ex-God, then he has built a Tower of Babel, then that is bad.

If you do something because God told you to, that is good. If you do it for your own ex-God schemes, that is bad. Man exists to serve God and be His children. All other purposes are fake purposes.

Tower of Babel represents any way that is ex-God. It represesnts all ways apart from God.

What do you want to accomplish with your life and God-given gifts? Billy Graham said he wanted to go into politics, and with his skills, he probably would've been very "successful" (by worldly measure), but God steered him away from that. If he had disobeyed God, no matter what he had built, it would be Towers of Babel.

You can build the most "great" (by worldly standards) "wonders", but do so in defiance to God, then all you've built is a Tower of Babel. But if you build a tiny shack out of obedience to God, it is greater than any Tower of Babel.

Nephalims were made by demons and were bad hombre. They are not of God and did not obey God. They corrupted God's creations and that's why God send the flood.

Adam was not nephalim. Adam was child of God, not of demons/satan.

Do not admire demonic things or things they make. They will overtake you. Pray for Jesus to enter your heart and protect you against demonic things.

Last Edited by Weyoun on 01/16/2022 07:04 PM

Absolute BS stars. I can tell you for a fact that your bible is fake, was written by men to control women and by the rich to control the peasants.

You cannot debunk that it is PLAGIARIZED from the myths of Egypt and Paganism and the 12 constellations etc.

I call bull. You cannot prove it is "divinely inspired". I just proved to you it was written by the 1% to control YOU!

Paganism is counterfeits created by satan. Satan plagarized God, not the other way around.

God's Word existed before He created the world. He wrote/spoke/thought it before any man existed. God is eternal and transcends time and space, and so does His Word.

Your opinion - conclusion based on ASSumptions. Nothing more.

Ancient artifacts like the Sumerian tablets / Egyptian papyrus do NOT prove that the "original" story, as the Bible tells us, is a copy of something else.

They merely record what that specific society believed at that moment in history.

Similarity does NOT PROVE direct association nor origination.

Historical existence does not prove "origin of story".

"Concensus of scholars" isn't "proof of fact".

Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.

Apparent lack of evidence doesn't prove non-existence.

The code of 13 has been posted in this thread. It is within Moses' tabernacle. Did God give him that specific number to build with..?

And it is no coincidence that many of the great archaic works employ this same number. None greater than the Great Pyramid of Egypt and all its thirteens.

Anyone reading the OT knows the smiting will of God when it comes to his enemies.
I wonder why He chose to leave so many megalithic monuments standing?

Isaiah 19:19-20 (KJV) 19 In that day shall there be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to the LORD. 20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the LORD because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.

Psalm 19:4 King James Version (KJV) 4 Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,

Luke 19:40 “And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.”

Last Edited by Humanitarianlike on 01/17/2022 12:39 PM

Well then answer this oh, wise one: who WROTE Genesis?

And if your answer is Lamech -as accepted from the Dead Sea Scroll "Genesis Apocryphon" [which is dated between 300BC-100AD]- then how did Lamech know of the creation?

That leather scroll is in fact the least-preserved of all the original seven found in Qumran in 1947. In it, Lamech [alleged son of Methuselah and father of Noah] spins the tale himself based upon 3rd-person anecdotes attributed to Abraham, the prophet who was fully-prepared to sacrifice his own son because God "told" him it was the only way to prove his faith.

And just like roughly 90% of the rest of the Biblical texts ascribed to prophets going all the way back to Abraham, Lamech's story was the result of VISIONS, DREAMS and INNER VOICES... none of which can ever be proven, especially to the deluded faithful.

This means that your faith is based entirely upon fantasies which were most-likely drug-induced or the result of natural psychoses. I discussed this likelihood very early in this thread and furnished archaeological proof of their use in those posts. You would do well to go back and read them.

Last Edited by GSB/LTD on 01/17/2022 03:28 PM

You are admiring works, which is the wrong focus. A work for God is good. A work ex-God is no beuno. Clearly, not all works are Godly, such as aztec pyramids for sacrificing children to satan. This practice continues today in transhumanist "medicine." Shall we admire satanic works? Shall we admire nephalim (demons) civilization? God definately did not approve because He wiped them out, and He will wipe out this world again, for good, because of all the satanic abominations.

Admire God and Godliness, which is eternal! Don't admire this temporal world that will soon be wiped out.

When a man passes, he cannot bring any of his worldly works into eternity. His soul enters eternity in paradise or eternity in hell. His worldly works eventually will all be wiped out. But if he serves God and obeys God, that is eternal.

"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal; for where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." - Matthew 6:19-21

If your heart is with nephalim society, you will suffer their horrible fate as well, and by that, I refer not just to corporeal destruction, but eternal suffering.

Going back to the example of a Godly shack vs an ex-God pyramid. Both shack and pyramid will be wiped out, but whether you obeyed God and served God or you served idols, that is eternal.

The Word of God is spiritual and eternal. God knew how the world would end before He created it. God transcends human systems and human philosophies. "archaeological proof" simply does not apply to God. God transcends all that. Human attempts to put God in the box of human philosophies and contraints are all futile. Human reliance on human systems and philosophies are weakness, not strength.

"For the wisdom of this world is foolishness before God. For it is written, 'He is the one who catches the wise in their craftiness'; and again, 'The Lord knows the reasonings of the wise, that they are useless.'" - 1 Corinthians 3:19-20

"archaeological proof" and any other worldly systems are useless.

God was before any human consciouness. Human/worldly systems simply does not apply to Him.

The human/worldly concepts you are using do not apply to God. He transcends it all.

The Word of God transcends space and time. It was before there was a "before". It always has been. Attempts fit it on some linear timeline is futile.

Last Edited by Weyoun on 01/17/2022 03:42 PM

TRY ANSWERING MY QUESTION, because simply babbling about the "word of God" just doesn't cut it. You may also wish to go back and see the edit I just did on the quote above, because I made it more specific than a vague reference to Moses as the source of Genesis. I used Moses as a jumping-off point since most theologians commonly state that he was the source. But that too is in error.

So again, ANSWER MY QUESTION: who wrote Genesis? Because your entire post above re: Eden is based upon that singular book and what it says is true. And you're simply insane to refute centuries of archaeological proof with such a sweeping empirical statement which itself is based upon NOTHING other than your opinion and a faith centered around mysticism. Using your logic in disproving history, what you ate for breakfast yesterday never happened unless God wills it to be so. Your full belly may dispute that fact, but nevertheless if God says you didn't, then you're still hungry.

You can quote scriptures all you want to but until you establish their ORIGIN you are speaking nothing but conjecture and using one supposition to validate another once again proves nothing.

Last Edited by GSB/LTD on 01/17/2022 03:47 PM

God transcends your question. It does not apply to Him. The Word of God alway was. It was before there was a "before." It transcends time and space. Attempting to fit it on a linear timeline is futile.

God transcends any concept of "empiricial" or "archaeological proof". He transcends all human conciousness and philosphy. He transcends human faith (or lack thereof), for before any human existed, before human faith existed, God was.

BULLSHIT. You're still talking in circles. Here's another pesky conundrum to ponder that the Bible never bothers to explain: Where did God come from? And "I AM THAT I AM" is no answer because like the other "prophets" I've mentioned earlier, that statement from Moses came entirely from a voice in his mind that could easily have been the result of a Goat skin full of rancid wine he guzzled into a drunken stupor up on the slopes of Mt Sinai.

Last Edited by GSB/LTD on 01/17/2022 03:56 PM

God fits neither circular nor linear thought. God transcends all thought. God transcends your idea of "come from." I'll say it again, He transcends all human consciouness, and all time, space, and matter. He "spoke" the world into existence. He transcends any concepts of "origin" or "come from." There is no conumdrums to ponder. God transcends all human ponderance. Mortal and finite man will never be able to fit infinite God in his finite and limited ponderances.