Proof the Bible was divinely inspired.. - STILL HASNT BEEN DEBUNKED AND CANT BE | |
GSB/LTD
User ID: 8080014 United States 01/05/2022 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even the scoffers on this thread were accurately predicted in the book we call The Holy Bible: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80267545 No wonder it's still the number one book listed in the Library of Congress You may be interested to know that it was a writer by the name of James Chapman who in 2013 compiled his list of the best-selling books of all time. Chapman's primary field of expertise is as a Professor of Film Studies whose own works include volumes on the importance of DR WHO and the JAMES BOND series of books/movies. And to achieve his lofty analysis, he speculated on the total number of Bibles that had ever been PRINTED, but not necessarily READ. And his total went all the way back to the day Gutenberg pressed his first leaves in 1455. His conclusion? Over 5-billion copies of the Bible have been published. But you must also bear in mind that it's only in the past 50 years that the Bible has amassed such distribution figures because in the previous 500 years only 1-billion had been circulated. In contrast, since 1612 DON QUIXOTE has sold [and not just printed] 500 million copies, A TALE OF TWO CITIES [1859] 200-million and THE LORD OF THE RINGS [1954] 150-million and all of them are listed on all-time best-seller lists as well. When put into that perspective 5-billion printed copies in over 500 years isn't terribly impressive... especially when you also consider that Chairman Mao's QUOTATIONS [aka THE LITTLE RED BOOK] has itself circulated over 1-billion copies since first published in 1964. And you can rest assured that the majority of them actually were read. As with the Bible itself, it's all a matter of perspective. Last Edited by GSB/LTD on 01/05/2022 10:10 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80988722 United States 01/05/2022 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | …some interesting reading material for ya: [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] Magick is a supernatural feat performed by a human with help from below. A miracle is a supernatural feat performed by a human with help from above. Yeshuah Messiah performed miracles. |
GSB/LTD
User ID: 8080014 United States 01/05/2022 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read Acts 16:16-18 to see what divination means. It's basically seeking supernatural knowledge from strange (demonic) spirits. The OP is confirming Bible prophecy using God's Word, not trying to seek extraBiblical knowledge from strange spirits. Praying to God to ask what to do in life is also not divination, because you're asking God, not demons. Example, summoning a dead relative's spirit to ask for help is divination. Reading the Bible or praying to God for help is not divination. The definition i posted is based on how it's used in the Bible, that is derived from the author's intent as seen in context. I don't care for secular definition. How exclusionary of you, especially since you have no idea who actually wrote that volume. |
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GSB/LTD
User ID: 8080014 United States 01/05/2022 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Deliberately edited out you say. Who says it is supposed to be in The Bible? You can still read it, right? Your answer lies in WHY it was deleted and by whom. If the rest of those crumbling scrolls were included then why not those fragments as well? There is always a reason for textual supression and the Book of Enoch is no exception. Your answer lies??? I don't have a question. You say it was in. When was it in? Who says it was in? Since the Book of Enoch fragments were discovered in the same Qumran caves as the rest of the Dead Sea scrolls it should be assumed they too were a part of the whole. But the fact remains that they were indeed suppressed and omitted from the "accepted" Biblical texts. |
TheWorldsEnemy
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81771110 United States 01/05/2022 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79380107 Deliberately edited out you say. Who says it is supposed to be in The Bible? You can still read it, right? Your answer lies in WHY it was deleted and by whom. If the rest of those crumbling scrolls were included then why not those fragments as well? There is always a reason for textual supression and the Book of Enoch is no exception. Your answer lies??? I don't have a question. You say it was in. When was it in? Who says it was in? Since the Book of Enoch fragments were discovered in the same Qumran caves as the rest of the Dead Sea scrolls it should be assumed they too were a part of the whole. But the fact remains that they were indeed suppressed and omitted from the "accepted" Biblical texts. So you also likewise insist that every other scroll that is not included in The Bible was excluded for some secrret bad guy reason too? |
Make Free Speech Great Again
User ID: 80554853 United States 01/05/2022 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I am God, and there is none like me, Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done"-Is. 46:9-10 https://imgur.com/a/brSTNqC The real trick is to learn to think critically; ask better and more questions. Don't accept anything at face value. Be sure you're making healthy decisions, getting adequate rest and spending proper time reflecting on things. |
GSB/LTD
User ID: 8080014 United States 01/05/2022 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was never in The Bible. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81770810 It's not in The Bible. You can still read it. What difference does it make to you and why? . Because the omission illustrates that the Bible was deliberately edited from day one to follow a specific narrative. Let me put this into a Biblical context: it is similar to leaving a leavening agent from a loaf of bread; it may still be edible but it won't be remotely as it really should be. |
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Humanitarianlike
User ID: 78689367 United States 01/05/2022 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And so it is with scripture. They've conveniently compressed timelines. Think about this.. There are archaic megalithic monuments on this planet - like most everywhere that people live or have lived basically. Some of these are absolute master constructed and not just in general construction terms, but cardinally aligned and aligned to our sun and moon, and utilizing sacred geometry. Megalithic Earthworks built in North America with the knowledge that the advancing and retreating ice sheets would glide over them. Yes, they didn't build there with rock. Instead, they knew what we know now and that is glacial ice creates a water barrier between the ice and soil. Brilliant!! Is that in the OT?? Here's the tricky part that people don't like to consider. It takes time - and a lot of it to progress from building with sticks, to sticks and mud, to clay bricks to eventually building precision megalithic constructions - a really long ass time. We have these megalithic constructions and then for some reason (huge cataclysm) we had to start over with the sticks and mud. Where is that story in the Bible..? Smart people are figuring out that when we came out of the last cycle some starting rebuilding over foundations after untold thousands of years- some that were foundation only and some that had partly survived. The problem is they built these Mosques over really old foundations that pointed not to Jerusalem or Mecca but to Petra. (The Mosque fronts have a kibla.) Where is that in the Bible? Last Edited by Humanitarianlike on 01/05/2022 10:20 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81771110 United States 01/05/2022 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was never in The Bible. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81770810 It's not in The Bible. You can still read it. What difference does it make to you and why? . Because the omission illustrates that the Bible was deliberately edited from day one to follow a specific narrative. Let me put this into a Biblical context: it is similar to leaving a leavening agent from a loaf of bread; it may still be edible but it won't be remotely as it really should be. Why was it supposed to be in? Why do you say? Is every ancient scroll supposed to be in The Bible? If it isn't, was it "deliberately excluded." I am not on the Denver Broncos. Is it significant to say that I have deliberately excluded from the Denver Broncos? Am I supposed to be on the Broncos? |
The Clown At Midnight User ID: 81478476 Israel 01/05/2022 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOLOLOL! Quoting: Captain KC Jones YOU'VE BEEN SET UP BY ETs. THERE IS NO GOD! EVERYTHING YOU THINK YOU KNOW IS BS AND A PSYOP. THIS UNIVERSE IS BEING PROJECTED FROM ANOTHER LARGER UNIVERSE. PHOTONS SHAPED BY GRAVITY CREATED THIS UNIVERSE. THE UNIVERSE IS A LIVING ENTITY AND THE PLASMA WHICH COMPRISES EVERYTHING IS ALKIVE. YOUR EYES AND BRAIN SHAPE WHAT YOU SEE AS A RESULT OF EVOLUTION. A flat earth?? . |
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TheWorldsEnemy
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81771110 United States 01/05/2022 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because the omission illustrates that the Bible was deliberately edited from day one to follow a specific narrative. Quoting: GSB/LTD Bullshit. It does no such thing. You are just saying that because you want not to believe The Bible. Who deliberately edited what when? The Jwes or the Christians? When? You make no sense and it doesn't seem to matter to you... |
Weyoun
User ID: 81110693 United States 01/05/2022 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Weyoun Read Acts 16:16-18 to see what divination means. It's basically seeking supernatural knowledge from strange (demonic) spirits. The OP is confirming Bible prophecy using God's Word, not trying to seek extraBiblical knowledge from strange spirits. Praying to God to ask what to do in life is also not divination, because you're asking God, not demons. Example, summoning a dead relative's spirit to ask for help is divination. Reading the Bible or praying to God for help is not divination. The definition i posted is based on how it's used in the Bible, that is derived from the author's intent as seen in context. I don't care for secular definition. How exclusionary of you, especially since you have no idea who actually wrote that volume. Exclusionary is not a bad thing. I don't know what "volume" you're refering to, but God wrote the Bible, and you can only discern it with His Holy Spirit teaching you. Nothing else can discern it. Last Edited by Weyoun on 01/05/2022 10:18 PM |
GSB/LTD
User ID: 8080014 United States 01/05/2022 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: GSB/LTD Your answer lies in WHY it was deleted and by whom. If the rest of those crumbling scrolls were included then why not those fragments as well? There is always a reason for textual supression and the Book of Enoch is no exception. Your answer lies??? I don't have a question. You say it was in. When was it in? Who says it was in? Since the Book of Enoch fragments were discovered in the same Qumran caves as the rest of the Dead Sea scrolls it should be assumed they too were a part of the whole. But the fact remains that they were indeed suppressed and omitted from the "accepted" Biblical texts. So you also likewise insist that every other scroll that is not included in The Bible was excluded for some secrret bad guy reason too? Do you mean the ancient Roman texts that refute the Christian persecutions or that document the crimes committed by the early Christians? Because they too were not included and for obvious reasons. The big difference between them and the Dead Sea Scrolls is that they were set down contemporaneously and by historians who had no specific agenda to present. And of course, they didn't write those records based upon visions and dreams or centuries after the fact as were most Biblical texts. |
FeedYourHead
User ID: 77416429 United States 01/05/2022 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tell me, are you one of those Christians who doesn't realize that had man actually followed Gods plan the Bible would have never existed? Ask Alice when she's 10ft tall This is a battle for the future of civilization. If free speech is lost even in America, tyranny is all that lies ahead. Elon Musk |
Weyoun
User ID: 81110693 United States 01/05/2022 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People don't like to talk about evolution and I'm not real fond of it myself. The problem is the lengths of time. Quoting: Humanitarianlike And so it is with scripture. They've conveniently compressed timelines. Think about this.. There are archaic megalithic monuments on this planet - like most everywhere that people live or have lived basically. Some of these are absolute master constructed and not just in general construction terms, but cardinally aligned and aligned to our sun and moon, and utilizing sacred geometry. Megalithic Earthworks built in North America with the knowledge that the advancing and retreating ice sheets would glide over them. Yes, they didn't build there with rock. Instead, they know what we know now and that is glacial ice creates a water barrier between the ice and soil. Brilliant!! Is that in the OT?? Here's the tricky part that people don't like to consider. It takes time - and a lot of it to progress from building with sticks, to sticks and mud, to clay bricks to eventually building precision megalithic constructions - a really long ass time. We have these megalithic constructions and then for some reason (huge cataclysm) we had to start over with the sticks and mud. Where is that story in the Bible..? Smart people are figuring out that when we came out of the last cycle some starting rebuilding over foundations after untold thousands of years- some that were foundation only and some that had partly survived. The problem is they built these Mosques over really old foundations that pointed not to Jerusalem or Mecca but to Petra. (The Mosque fronts have a kibla.) Where is that in the Bible? Not sure what your question is, but ancient civilizations, including lost ones, are in the Bible. See nephalims and pre-flood. |
GSB/LTD
User ID: 8080014 United States 01/05/2022 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GSB/LTD, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81771110 Have you ever studied anything on which texts became "canon", included in The Bible and why? Have you ever studied this? I have. Without exception, canonical texts were chosen to further a specific narrative; and the very definition of "canon" supports this. |
Weyoun
User ID: 81110693 United States 01/05/2022 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81770810 Your answer lies??? I don't have a question. You say it was in. When was it in? Who says it was in? Since the Book of Enoch fragments were discovered in the same Qumran caves as the rest of the Dead Sea scrolls it should be assumed they too were a part of the whole. But the fact remains that they were indeed suppressed and omitted from the "accepted" Biblical texts. So you also likewise insist that every other scroll that is not included in The Bible was excluded for some secrret bad guy reason too? historians who had no specific agenda to present No such person has ever existed. |
Humanitarianlike
User ID: 78689367 United States 01/05/2022 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People don't like to talk about evolution and I'm not real fond of it myself. The problem is the lengths of time. Quoting: Humanitarianlike And so it is with scripture. They've conveniently compressed timelines. Think about this.. There are archaic megalithic monuments on this planet - like most everywhere that people live or have lived basically. Some of these are absolute master constructed and not just in general construction terms, but cardinally aligned and aligned to our sun and moon, and utilizing sacred geometry. Megalithic Earthworks built in North America with the knowledge that the advancing and retreating ice sheets would glide over them. Yes, they didn't build there with rock. Instead, they know what we know now and that is glacial ice creates a water barrier between the ice and soil. Brilliant!! Is that in the OT?? Here's the tricky part that people don't like to consider. It takes time - and a lot of it to progress from building with sticks, to sticks and mud, to clay bricks to eventually building precision megalithic constructions - a really long ass time. We have these megalithic constructions and then for some reason (huge cataclysm) we had to start over with the sticks and mud. Where is that story in the Bible..? Smart people are figuring out that when we came out of the last cycle some starting rebuilding over foundations after untold thousands of years- some that were foundation only and some that had partly survived. The problem is they built these Mosques over really old foundations that pointed not to Jerusalem or Mecca but to Petra. (The Mosque fronts have a kibla.) Where is that in the Bible? Not sure what your question is, but ancient civilizations, including lost ones, are in the Bible. See nephalims and pre-flood. Yes, the book of Genesis, as compressed as it is, is about the advanced civilization that created the megaliths. Thank You But very few details are given and for some reason the world is basically the Middle East when it really wasn't. The story is supposed to be about our shared human beginnings. They left a lot out and that's unfortunate. BUT I'm quite sure they (advanced race that built the megaliths) left all the details in the "Hall of Records". Game over... |
GSB/LTD
User ID: 8080014 United States 01/05/2022 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The definition i posted is based on how it's used in the Bible, that is derived from the author's intent as seen in context. I don't care for secular definition. How exclusionary of you, especially since you have no idea who actually wrote that volume. Exclusionary is not a bad thing. I don't know what "volume" you're refering to, but God wrote the Bible, and you can only discern it with His Holy Spirit teaching you. Nothing else can discern it. God did not write the Bible. Men did, based upon those visions, dreams and inner voices that have already been examined herein and Biblical texts specifically cite those mystical impressions as the source. Just because those prophets claimed those messages came from God doesn't make it so and that too has been examined at length in this thread. But as I've told others here, believe what you wish and if it brings you comfort then that's fine with me. |
GSB/LTD
User ID: 8080014 United States 01/05/2022 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: GSB/LTD Since the Book of Enoch fragments were discovered in the same Qumran caves as the rest of the Dead Sea scrolls it should be assumed they too were a part of the whole. But the fact remains that they were indeed suppressed and omitted from the "accepted" Biblical texts. So you also likewise insist that every other scroll that is not included in The Bible was excluded for some secrret bad guy reason too? historians who had no specific agenda to present No such person has ever existed. Oh, ye of little faith in anything except your own. |
panthers
User ID: 80820847 Canada 01/05/2022 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | now that ^^^^ is an absolute pile of shit n' caca. .. You two follow each other around this website like brothers. itchy and scratchy ...1 0 1 0 [1 1] 2 3 5 8... |
Weyoun
User ID: 81110693 United States 01/05/2022 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Weyoun The definition i posted is based on how it's used in the Bible, that is derived from the author's intent as seen in context. I don't care for secular definition. How exclusionary of you, especially since you have no idea who actually wrote that volume. Exclusionary is not a bad thing. I don't know what "volume" you're refering to, but God wrote the Bible, and you can only discern it with His Holy Spirit teaching you. Nothing else can discern it. God did not write the Bible. Men did, based upon those visions, dreams and inner voices that have already been examined herein and Biblical texts specifically cite those mystical impressions as the source. Just because those prophets claimed those messages came from God doesn't make it so and that too has been examined at length in this thread. But as I've told others here, believe what you wish and if it brings you comfort then that's fine with me. You are looking at things using physical eyes, so you cannot seee how it works in the spiritual realm. God definately wrote it. The Bible has more than physical dimensions, it's mostly spiritual. Last Edited by Weyoun on 01/05/2022 10:34 PM |
Weyoun
User ID: 81110693 United States 01/05/2022 10:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81771110 So you also likewise insist that every other scroll that is not included in The Bible was excluded for some secrret bad guy reason too? historians who had no specific agenda to present No such person has ever existed. Oh, ye of little faith in anything except your own. All I have is from God. I don't need anything more. |
TheWorldsEnemy
(OP) User ID: 81461035 United States 01/05/2022 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so back on subject.. Theres no way this could have been preplanned and wrote.. The names of each generation would have to be preplanned for it to read the way it does in order. If you read the names from Adam to Noah in order as they appear in the Bible and use the names meanings you get: “Man is appointed mortal sorrow; but the blessed God shall come down teaching that his death shall bring the despairing rest.”. That is the plan of salvation. That is SUPERNATURAL! |