Proof the Bible was divinely inspired.. - STILL HASNT BEEN DEBUNKED AND CANT BE

I'd say I've made a pretty good case in exposing your own "finite and limited ponderances" and for proof we now have two questions you cannot answer, both of which form the foundations of your faith.

But, this certainly isn't your fault, since the primary definition of "Faith" is the belief in something that cannot be proven... and because -of course- God transcends it!

Have a nice pray, Precious. BTW: one of the definitions of "prayer" describes it as an invocation, itself being a form of incantation. And we all know what THOSE are, don't we?

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You are trying to use human concepts and human definitions to talk about the supernatural and the infinite. For example, you try to define "prayer," but can limited humans define something like that? A relationship with an infinite supernatural cannot fit within the finite human concepts.

You try to discuss the inifinite supernatural from a finite human framework. You try to do the impossible. It is futile.

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To experience God, you must come before Him with an open heart and put aside all things that hinder you, that includes putting aside all human/worldly philosophies/presumptions. A relationship with God is on His terms, not on yours. If you try to define God with human/worldly concepts, you are setting your own terms, and it is a hinderance, and you would just create false gods instead.

You cannot fit God in any human/worldly systems/philosophies. When you accept Jesus as Lord and Savor, He molds, shapes, and transforms you according to His design. You don't try to fit Him into human concepts/design. It is futile because He is infinite.

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You must humble yourself and put aside all human/worldly things you relied on, admit they are worthless, and completely rely on God alone.

"But whatever things were gain to me, those things I have counted as loss for the sake of Christ. More than that, I count all things to be loss because of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them but rubbish so that I may gain Christ" - Philippians 3:7-8

Paul was a high ranking Pharisee and promising Roman citizen. He was well-versed in all the human philosophies, had the "best" (by worldly standard) schooling, etc... But he realized it was all trash!

For Paul and other intellectuals, the wordly philosophies were the primary hinderence. For ohers, it may be more material things, or emotional things, or carnal lifestyle, or toxic relationships. Whatever the worldly things are that you rely on as your foundational framework instead of God, those are idols that hinder you from God.

Only the house on the rock of Jesus is eternal. Anything built on anything else will crumble.

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Who are you?

A Christian's identity is "I am child of God!"

When Jesus is your foundation, you have a house built on rock and that is eternal. Jesus is the foundational framework that your life stands on. Your whole life work, perception, relationships, everything is from that foundation. You are God's vessel. Your existence is Him living through you.

"I have been crucified with Christ, and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me. And the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me." - Galatians 2:20

If your foundation is something else instead, like human philosophies/ideologies, science, archeology, political systems, human relationships, or other worldly things, then you will crumble along with the world.

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It's immaterial - it doesn't matter.

It's hilarious that you radical atheists scream about 'who wrote ....' book in the Bible...

...and yet...

...have no problem declaring all kinds of pagan texts as valid - when the vast majority of them have NO stated authors.

Show me ONE person, place or event in the Bible that you have PROOF they didn't exist or happen.

You can't.

You AZZume that all questions are valid.

You AZZume that all questions need to be answered.

You're like a little kid who can't stop asking...

....WHY...WY...WHY....WHY.

It's ironic that you radical militant atheists spend SO MUNCH time talking about God - when you CLAIM He doesn't exist.

I have better proof. I wrote a 430-page book using 785 sources proving that the Bible is supernaturally authored and 9/11 was an inside job.

It's called - The More Rational Worldview: Coincidence or Conspiracy?

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Lmao how is that proof it's divinely inspired? It's just like an anagram, which most authors use all the time. Just proves creative writing if anything

It was written over centuries and each name had to be given perfectly to make the sentence.. OPEN YOUR EYES

They cannot open their eyes no more than a blind can heal himself. The Holy Spirit has to break through their hardened hearts. Even when Jesus was on earth and raising the dead to life, they still rejected Him and crucified Him.

The pharisees attributed Jesus' works to demonic works. Today, people will call it coincidence or random chance. They will say some random ink patterns randomly arranged themselves into a sentence that just happens to come true thousands of years later by coincidence, just like they say space dust randomly turned into a human.

In the antichrist NWO, the two witnesses will be rejected, killed, and they will ressurect and be raptured, and many who witness it will still reject.

We are just messengers. If a million people hear us and 999,999 lynch us, but just one is encouraged or spurred to look deeper, it's worth it. Even if all 1 million reject, we served God and that is always worth it.

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AMEN!

My god is better than your god.

Speaking of deities, every god had a temple. Moses had the tabernacle and ensuing generations built untold number of cathedrals and churches.

BUT the best example on this planet was built in Cambodia in the middle of a flood-plain dense jungle.
Everything that came afterwards is smaller and lesser in comparison. This place is grander both in scale, architecture and area.

Angkor Wat

https://imgur.com/6AC6g2Z

In the early 20th century, the French occupied Cambodia and they were responsible for the initial clean-up and some restoration of Angkor Wat.
In the 60's a French archaeologist made these comments about AW's architecture and size.

https://imgur.com/HxhFCLr

https://imgur.com/P3nADG1

https://imgur.com/yg68d8f

*the product of the Tower of Babel civilization

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Yes of course for I am your god.



Ishmael said: Said to me Metatron, the Prince of the Presence and the prince over all the princes and he stands before Him who is greater than all the Elohim. And he goes in under the Throne of Glory. And he has a great tabernacle of light on high. - The Book Of Enoch II

“I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.” - Psalms 82:6

“Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?” - John 10:34

Yet what was Jesus refering to?

...

The serpent / satan is actually the one who first made the comment / concept of "ye are gods" in Genesis 3.

Read that, Psalm 82 and Isaiah 41 for a better understanding of what Jesus was getting at.

Finally, Father God, in Gen 3:22, makes it very specific as to what aspect - "to know good and evil" - makes us "like us".

You mean all its over 68,000 versions revised altered corrupted over 2,000 years ?

Illuminate me !

Who do you think created so called ETs? Everything has a maker. The one who created it all is Almighty God.

Nope. We are living the book of Revelation now.

As I have previously stated, I am not an atheist so along with the OP you too are bearing false witness. Do you make the same rash judgement against all who challenge you outside your core beliefs? I would suspect so.

And it IS material who wrote Genesis because that singular book serves as the entire basis for everything that follows after. Without Genesis there IS no word of God so it is entirely within reason to ask where Genesis originated.

If you cannot grasp that very simple concept, then I pity you and your closed mind, for much earlier in this thread I furnished alternative evidence that supports very possible origins of the dreams, visions and inner voices that comprise the words of Biblical prophets: sacred drugs and/or mental illness.

As far as disproving those prophets ever existed, just TRY to find them mentioned ANYWHERE in history outside of theological sources. Even though he and Rameses were the prominent figures in the Egyptian exodus, Moses' name -or that exodus- isn't carved even ONCE on surviving stone. Rameses is, but Moses and his holy tribes are not. Try explaining that.

Further, there are absolutely no historical records of Abraham, Noah and any other OT personage outside the Dead Sea scrolls -which themselves weren't written until 1300 years later and then certainly not by the hand of God.

The Bible admonishes the faithful not to build their houses upon shifting sands -'lest they collapse from their own arrogance- and yet your inherent beliefs have been foolishly constructed upon something just as imperfect.

Again, I'm more than willing to believe as do you, but I require more than a single collection of crumbling leather and papyrus fragments before I'll do so.

Having stated that, I'll waste no further time on you or the rest of the blindly faithful inhabiting this thread since it all boils down to this statement: "for those who believe no proof is needed." And that's convenient because none really exists.

So, go ahead and argue among yourselves as Christians have done for over two millennia, never to agree upon the fine details. Because that alone further proves my analysis: every single one of you thinks he/she has the only TRUE vision of God, while in reality none of you actually do.

'No word of God without Genesis'?

Really?

So you're saying that ALL the times that any of the Old Testament writers use the phrase 'thus saith the LORD' - it wasn't really Father God speaking?

In other words, you're saying that what God said doesn't matter?

The phrase "thus saith the LORD" occurs 415 times in 413 verses in the KJV.

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You might want to rethink that statement you made.

.....

Father God TOLD Jesus what to say.

John 12:49-50

49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

...

Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

see?! its real!
god hid a message here telling everyone its real instead of just being straight forward and not hiding messages and secrets! This is exactly how an all powerful and all knowing god would do things, in secret messages and not in just being a good all powerful and all knowing god.

You expect that there should be 'written historical recoreds" of folks like Abraham or the 'prophets of God' OUTSIDE of the Bible.

Utter NONSENSE.

There's barely reocords of Kings of major societies, YET YOU expect there should be records of individual men who 'spoke for God'?

The Bible IS the historical record of those men.

Just because YOU don't accept it doesn't mean it's NOT accurate.

My statement below stands regardless of your 'argument'.

Who's the ONLY witness to the people and events of the Book of Genesis?

Father God - the Creator.

Did Moses actually write it all down or was it 'orally transmitted' until a later time? We don't know.

In the early 6th Century BC, at the end of the Babylonian Exile, there was no written copy of the Torah nor the preceeding writings by the prophets.

God had angels dictate the books to scribes of Ezra.

The OP does not reveal anything new. It just further confirms what we already know. The salvation message is not secret or hidden. It is the main theme of the Bible. Any Christian will tell you the salvataion message if you ask. Many will tell you even if you don't ask. It's never been a secret.

The OP message does not reveal anythign God doesn't already openly and straightfowardly tell you. It is not a hidden message. The message is the main theme of the Bible and is openly known by a plain reading of the Bible. Even those who have no access to Bibles or Christians get direct revelation from God, as has happend to those living deep in muslim terrorist terrortory, and the message is the same.

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the title of this post and video say different. the message, according to the video, is hidden, and had to be found and decoded.
if its known with a plain reading, why is there a need or reason for hidden and secret messages, especially from what you know to be your god?
God speaks to people? that proof would nice, and i am sure totally different than that of the muslims.
What we do agree on is in that first sentence. the op message doesnt reveal anything.
its not proof of shit.

snake cannot speak human language

nor can donkeys

and yet in the "divinely inspired" book, both a snake and a donkey can talk to humans like it's a cartoon

soooooooooo

There is no need. Christians have been around before any of these decodings came about. The message is not hidden at all. It is known before the decodings came about, because the message is the same as the main theme ofthe Bible, which is plainly given, without need of any decodings. The same message has been known since Jesus' time, directly given by God himself, and known by pominent guys like David even before Jesus came on earth in the flesh.

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Even illiterate Christians can tell you the salvation message without ever reading a physical Bible, because the Word of God is living and active!