Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Friday Day 10 - Motions and Jury Instructions | |
Xeven
User ID: 80683137 United States 11/12/2021 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don’t think prosecution wanted to win. =) I reserve the right to declare my comments and posts as satire. Nothing I post should be considered or interpreted as advocacy for illegal activity. My comments are designed to inspire critical political thinking. I only mean half of what I say and only say half of what I mean. |
NeroAxia
User ID: 77606890 United States 11/12/2021 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's an absolute game changer with this new information, the prosecution have ZERO case now and PROVED they lied and made it up the gun pointing. Quoting: AlphaOne Binger could be in a world of shit once this get's to Kyles lawyers! Yes, but closing starts Monday. They can not introduce new evidence now. Where they hell was this Yesterday? Not suspicious at all |
MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States 11/12/2021 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quote below from video OP in comments section. Quoting: AlphaOne UPDATE: I just spoke with defense attorney Chirafisi and this video has been sent to him. Hopefully they use the information therein. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] ------------------------------ This blurry faulty photo that the prosecution is basing their case on is definitely inaccurate. If the prosecutions evidence is seriously flawed they would be fools to present it as that. |
Adjudicator
User ID: 79078255 United States 11/12/2021 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's an absolute game changer with this new information, the prosecution have ZERO case now and PROVED they lied and made it up the gun pointing. Quoting: AlphaOne Binger could be in a world of shit once this get's to Kyles lawyers! Yes, but closing starts Monday. They can not introduce new evidence now. Where they hell was this Yesterday? Not suspicious at all He will definitely be disbarred and Pro TRUTH Court Officers will make sure of it . Good Night Undercover Antifa Phaggg Last Edited by Adjudicator on 11/12/2021 07:34 PM :adjmeme: :thelaw: |
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User ID: 81029771 United States 11/12/2021 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There’s a huge push right now to continue pounding this “he shouldnt have been there” so that on Monday the prosecutor can ram through provocation. Quoting: NeroAxia It’s obvious. But what law was he breaking by being there? Having a gun? Would it change if the gun was purchased legally and he was 21? Or 40? Or a veteran? He has, in my opinion, every right to be there. If he he would have provoked anyone I’d be saying something else. But everything I’ve seen hasn’t shown a single instance of him doing anything illegal. It seems to me the argument and the overall sentiment is that, we should just not do anything, and watch them burn down the country. He was there, and it happened. Is he guilty of murder or was it self defense. Exactly. No one says shit about all the other people that were there. Many whom had weapons including gun (which has already been proven in court). It's been proven part of these rioters are felons, convicted scum of some sort of evil crime. Gun shots all night. Kyle wasn't the only one there. Kyle wasn't the only one with a gun. Why the push for he shouldn't of been there? Had this happen to another armed man would the narrative be the same? Doubt it. |
MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States 11/12/2021 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There’s a huge push right now to continue pounding this “he shouldnt have been there” so that on Monday the prosecutor can ram through provocation. Quoting: NeroAxia It’s obvious. But what law was he breaking by being there? Having a gun? Would it change if the gun was purchased legally and he was 21? Or 40? Or a veteran? He has, in my opinion, every right to be there. If he he would have provoked anyone I’d be saying something else. But everything I’ve seen hasn’t shown a single instance of him doing anything illegal. It seems to me the argument and the overall sentiment is that, we should just not do anything, and watch them burn down the country. He was there, and it happened. Is he guilty of murder or was it self defense. Exactly. No one says shit about all the other people that were there. Many whom had weapons including gun (which has already been proven in court). It's been proven part of these rioters are felons, convicted scum of some sort of evil crime. Gun shots all night. Kyle wasn't the only one there. Kyle wasn't the only one with a gun. Why the push for he shouldn't of been there? Had this happen to another armed man would the narrative be the same? Doubt it. The prosecution has already proven that Kyle had the same right as anyone else to be there. |
Eyeball Replacement
User ID: 79903136 United States 11/12/2021 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There’s a huge push right now to continue pounding this “he shouldnt have been there” so that on Monday the prosecutor can ram through provocation. Quoting: NeroAxia It’s obvious. But what law was he breaking by being there? Having a gun? Would it change if the gun was purchased legally and he was 21? Or 40? Or a veteran? He has, in my opinion, every right to be there. If he he would have provoked anyone I’d be saying something else. But everything I’ve seen hasn’t shown a single instance of him doing anything illegal. It seems to me the argument and the overall sentiment is that, we should just not do anything, and watch them burn down the country. He was there, and it happened. Is he guilty of murder or was it self defense. Exactly. No one says shit about all the other people that were there. Many whom had weapons including gun (which has already been proven in court). It's been proven part of these rioters are felons, convicted scum of some sort of evil crime. Gun shots all night. Kyle wasn't the only one there. Kyle wasn't the only one with a gun. Why the push for he shouldn't of been there? Had this happen to another armed man would the narrative be the same? Doubt it. The looters, rioters, arsonists… they all had a right to be there. Kyle didn’t. Liberal logic. In the eye of the storm ... |
NeroAxia
User ID: 77606890 United States 11/12/2021 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is one more video. #KyleRittenhouse appears to have been walking back as he was approached by an armed Ziminski. Judge Schroeder asked if you could see Ziminski’s gun earlier. You certainly can here! Quoting: AlphaOne With the FLIR IR footage as well, there’s no evidence Kyle rose his rifle. [link to twitter.com (secure)] Well I guess we know now why they didn’t call the witness…. So why didn't defense send a subpoena him then? I don't get it. He was talked about all through trial you would think defense would want him on the stand? Or the prosecution. It makes ZERO sense. He has to be someone. That’s the only explanation I have. You are presenting evidence that a man aimed a gun at someone starting this whole ordeal. It changes the entire case, for me. It’s what will decide if this kid is innocent or guilty. And they won’t call the witness to testify? What? In what world? Not only this, but no one even brought it up. Neither side. Like it was off limits… It’s blowing my mind. It would be one thing if the video evidence was clear. It’s not, and even then, why are you not bringing him in to clarify EXACTLY what happened. If I were Kyle I would have fired my defense and brought this up. Especially with the new footage. He clearly didn’t aim the gun and they lied. Idk. Just wild |
Greyberry
User ID: 75708546 United States 11/12/2021 07:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The judge fucked up on letting the jury go until monday. 500 Wisconsin National Guard troops preparing to help support Kenosha authorities MADISON, Wis. — Gov. Tony Evers has authorized 500 Wisconsin National Guard troops to support Kenosha authorities as the Kyle Rittenhouse trial nears an end. "We continue to be in close contact with our partners at the local level to ensure the state provides support and resources to help keep the Kenosha community and greater area safe," Evers said in a news release. "The Kenosha community has been strong, resilient, and has come together through incredibly difficult times these past two years, and that healing is still ongoing." Members of the Wisconsin National Guard will stage outside Kenosha in a standby status to respond if requested by local law enforcement agencies. [link to www.wisn.com (secure)] |
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User ID: 81029771 United States 11/12/2021 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is one more video. #KyleRittenhouse appears to have been walking back as he was approached by an armed Ziminski. Judge Schroeder asked if you could see Ziminski’s gun earlier. You certainly can here! Quoting: AlphaOne With the FLIR IR footage as well, there’s no evidence Kyle rose his rifle. [link to twitter.com (secure)] Well I guess we know now why they didn’t call the witness…. So why didn't defense send a subpoena him then? I don't get it. He was talked about all through trial you would think defense would want him on the stand? Or the prosecution. It makes ZERO sense. He has to be someone. That’s the only explanation I have. You are presenting evidence that a man aimed a gun at someone starting this whole ordeal. It changes the entire case, for me. It’s what will decide if this kid is innocent or guilty. And they won’t call the witness to testify? What? In what world? Not only this, but no one even brought it up. Neither side. Like it was off limits… It’s blowing my mind. It would be one thing if the video evidence was clear. It’s not, and even then, why are you not bringing him in to clarify EXACTLY what happened. If I were Kyle I would have fired my defense and brought this up. Especially with the new footage. He clearly didn’t aim the gun and they lied. Idk. Just wild Even today during the hearing, Kyle's attorney even brought up Ziminksi, but he put the blame on the prosecutor for not calling him to the stand when they were talking about allowing the blurry photo to be admitted into evidence. So they know the State didn't call him why doesn't the defense take any blame? |
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User ID: 81029771 United States 11/12/2021 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So why didn't defense send a subpoena him then? I don't get it. He was talked about all through trial you would think defense would want him on the stand? Or the prosecution. It makes ZERO sense. He has to be someone. That’s the only explanation I have. You are presenting evidence that a man aimed a gun at someone starting this whole ordeal. It changes the entire case, for me. It’s what will decide if this kid is innocent or guilty. And they won’t call the witness to testify? What? In what world? Not only this, but no one even brought it up. Neither side. Like it was off limits… It’s blowing my mind. It would be one thing if the video evidence was clear. It’s not, and even then, why are you not bringing him in to clarify EXACTLY what happened. If I were Kyle I would have fired my defense and brought this up. Especially with the new footage. He clearly didn’t aim the gun and they lied. Idk. Just wild Even today during the hearing, Kyle's attorney even brought up Ziminksi, but he put the blame on the prosecutor for not calling him to the stand when they were talking about allowing the blurry photo to be admitted into evidence. So they know the State didn't call him why doesn't the defense take any blame? And I agree he has to be someone. Just like "yellow pants guy". Just like "dropkick guy". No one finds it odd that FBI had a drone flying over the exact location where Ziminksi was filming the IR footage? All of them were either unidentified or never subpoenaed. What in the actual fuck?1?1 |
Only Me
Strawberry Girl User ID: 79665715 United States 11/12/2021 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I really did think they were trying to throw the case at the beginning, but Binger is a leftie with political aspirations, so I think it's more a matter of he didn't realize how hard this case would be to try. And then I think once he realized there would be no way to win, he tried to get a mistrial so he wouldn't "lose" the case. Whatever it is, he's not on his game and it seems purposeful. Goodbye, halcyon days... There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened. |
NeroAxia
User ID: 77606890 United States 11/12/2021 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So why didn't defense send a subpoena him then? I don't get it. He was talked about all through trial you would think defense would want him on the stand? Or the prosecution. It makes ZERO sense. He has to be someone. That’s the only explanation I have. You are presenting evidence that a man aimed a gun at someone starting this whole ordeal. It changes the entire case, for me. It’s what will decide if this kid is innocent or guilty. And they won’t call the witness to testify? What? In what world? Not only this, but no one even brought it up. Neither side. Like it was off limits… It’s blowing my mind. It would be one thing if the video evidence was clear. It’s not, and even then, why are you not bringing him in to clarify EXACTLY what happened. If I were Kyle I would have fired my defense and brought this up. Especially with the new footage. He clearly didn’t aim the gun and they lied. Idk. Just wild Even today during the hearing, Kyle's attorney even brought up Ziminksi, but he put the blame on the prosecutor for not calling him to the stand when they were talking about allowing the blurry photo to be admitted into evidence. So they know the State didn't call him why doesn't the defense take any blame? Oh I missed that. So they did bring it up… Interesting… I think maybe, neither party knew the truth and both were worried it would damage their case. |
Only Me
Strawberry Girl User ID: 79665715 United States 11/12/2021 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There’s a huge push right now to continue pounding this “he shouldnt have been there” so that on Monday the prosecutor can ram through provocation. Quoting: NeroAxia It’s obvious. But what law was he breaking by being there? Having a gun? Would it change if the gun was purchased legally and he was 21? Or 40? Or a veteran? He has, in my opinion, every right to be there. If he he would have provoked anyone I’d be saying something else. But everything I’ve seen hasn’t shown a single instance of him doing anything illegal. It seems to me the argument and the overall sentiment is that, we should just not do anything, and watch them burn down the country. He was there, and it happened. Is he guilty of murder or was it self defense. Exactly. No one says shit about all the other people that were there. Many whom had weapons including gun (which has already been proven in court). It's been proven part of these rioters are felons, convicted scum of some sort of evil crime. Gun shots all night. Kyle wasn't the only one there. Kyle wasn't the only one with a gun. Why the push for he shouldn't of been there? Had this happen to another armed man would the narrative be the same? Doubt it. Ugh you guys are just trying to argue for the sake of arguing. Nobody should have been there because the riot should not have happened in the first place. Kyle saw the adults in charge doing nothing so he went. He is 17 and out past curfew. He had a gun he wasn't legally allowed to have. He went to help because he felt like somebody had to fo something. I agree he is a good kid. Better than most his age. I agree! But he shouldn't have gone. It's not a sudden push because I've said that all along since it happened. I am not some weird shill for gun control or whatever and you can do a search to see that I have been on glp for many years and have never pushed that type of narrative. That said, I 100% believe he acted in self defense and is not in any way responsible for these deaths. That is a separate issue. Goodness guys. I'm not here to argue amd I don't think you're even reading what I'm saying because if you were, you wouldn't be hateful to me. Geez these things bring out the worst in people. We're on the same side and yet... Welp, sowing division. Nice. Goodbye, halcyon days... There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened. |
NeroAxia
User ID: 77606890 United States 11/12/2021 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ThumbsUp So why didn't defense send a subpoena him then? I don't get it. He was talked about all through trial you would think defense would want him on the stand? Or the prosecution. It makes ZERO sense. He has to be someone. That’s the only explanation I have. You are presenting evidence that a man aimed a gun at someone starting this whole ordeal. It changes the entire case, for me. It’s what will decide if this kid is innocent or guilty. And they won’t call the witness to testify? What? In what world? Not only this, but no one even brought it up. Neither side. Like it was off limits… It’s blowing my mind. It would be one thing if the video evidence was clear. It’s not, and even then, why are you not bringing him in to clarify EXACTLY what happened. If I were Kyle I would have fired my defense and brought this up. Especially with the new footage. He clearly didn’t aim the gun and they lied. Idk. Just wild Even today during the hearing, Kyle's attorney even brought up Ziminksi, but he put the blame on the prosecutor for not calling him to the stand when they were talking about allowing the blurry photo to be admitted into evidence. So they know the State didn't call him why doesn't the defense take any blame? And I agree he has to be someone. Just like "yellow pants guy". Just like "dropkick guy". No one finds it odd that FBI had a drone flying over the exact location where Ziminksi was filming the IR footage? All of them were either unidentified or never subpoenaed. What in the actual fuck?1?1 Whoa. This is wild. |
NeroAxia
User ID: 77606890 United States 11/12/2021 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There’s a huge push right now to continue pounding this “he shouldnt have been there” so that on Monday the prosecutor can ram through provocation. Quoting: NeroAxia It’s obvious. But what law was he breaking by being there? Having a gun? Would it change if the gun was purchased legally and he was 21? Or 40? Or a veteran? He has, in my opinion, every right to be there. If he he would have provoked anyone I’d be saying something else. But everything I’ve seen hasn’t shown a single instance of him doing anything illegal. It seems to me the argument and the overall sentiment is that, we should just not do anything, and watch them burn down the country. He was there, and it happened. Is he guilty of murder or was it self defense. Exactly. No one says shit about all the other people that were there. Many whom had weapons including gun (which has already been proven in court). It's been proven part of these rioters are felons, convicted scum of some sort of evil crime. Gun shots all night. Kyle wasn't the only one there. Kyle wasn't the only one with a gun. Why the push for he shouldn't of been there? Had this happen to another armed man would the narrative be the same? Doubt it. Ugh you guys are just trying to argue for the sake of arguing. Nobody should have been there because the riot should not have happened in the first place. Kyle saw the adults in charge doing nothing so he went. He is 17 and out past curfew. He had a gun he wasn't legally allowed to have. He went to help because he felt like somebody had to fo something. I agree he is a good kid. Better than most his age. I agree! But he shouldn't have gone. It's not a sudden push because I've said that all along since it happened. I am not some weird shill for gun control or whatever and you can do a search to see that I have been on glp for many years and have never pushed that type of narrative. That said, I 100% believe he acted in self defense and is not in any way responsible for these deaths. That is a separate issue. Goodness guys. I'm not here to argue amd I don't think you're even reading what I'm saying because if you were, you wouldn't be hateful to me. Geez these things bring out the worst in people. We're on the same side and yet... Welp, sowing division. Nice. You’re the odd man out pushing the msm It’s blatantly clear the prosecution will use provocation on Monday as their basis to sway the jury. And you just keep repeating it, and repeating it, and repeating it. Last Edited by NeroAxia on 11/12/2021 08:05 PM |
Only Me
Strawberry Girl User ID: 79665715 United States 11/12/2021 08:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FFS I give up Goodbye, halcyon days... There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened. |
here&back
User ID: 38487486 United States 11/12/2021 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now we are seeing why the prosecutor kept HAMMERING at Kyle on the stand...his over and over again asking of the questions....it was ALL designed to TRAP him! These people disgust me.... Talking about reckless endangerment charge now as a Lesser charge that is punishable by 2 1/2 to 7 years in prison. Still - |
MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States 11/12/2021 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There’s a huge push right now to continue pounding this “he shouldnt have been there” so that on Monday the prosecutor can ram through provocation. Quoting: NeroAxia It’s obvious. But what law was he breaking by being there? Having a gun? Would it change if the gun was purchased legally and he was 21? Or 40? Or a veteran? He has, in my opinion, every right to be there. If he he would have provoked anyone I’d be saying something else. But everything I’ve seen hasn’t shown a single instance of him doing anything illegal. It seems to me the argument and the overall sentiment is that, we should just not do anything, and watch them burn down the country. He was there, and it happened. Is he guilty of murder or was it self defense. Exactly. No one says shit about all the other people that were there. Many whom had weapons including gun (which has already been proven in court). It's been proven part of these rioters are felons, convicted scum of some sort of evil crime. Gun shots all night. Kyle wasn't the only one there. Kyle wasn't the only one with a gun. Why the push for he shouldn't of been there? Had this happen to another armed man would the narrative be the same? Doubt it. Ugh you guys are just trying to argue for the sake of arguing. Nobody should have been there because the riot should not have happened in the first place. Kyle saw the adults in charge doing nothing so he went. He is 17 and out past curfew. He had a gun he wasn't legally allowed to have. He went to help because he felt like somebody had to fo something. I agree he is a good kid. Better than most his age. I agree! But he shouldn't have gone. It's not a sudden push because I've said that all along since it happened. I am not some weird shill for gun control or whatever and you can do a search to see that I have been on glp for many years and have never pushed that type of narrative. That said, I 100% believe he acted in self defense and is not in any way responsible for these deaths. That is a separate issue. Goodness guys. I'm not here to argue amd I don't think you're even reading what I'm saying because if you were, you wouldn't be hateful to me. Geez these things bring out the worst in people. We're on the same side and yet... Welp, sowing division. Nice. Your arguing your feelings rather than the law. It hasn't been determined weather he had a gun he wasn't legally allowed to have. Defense has stated the the law the prosecution is pushing applies to 16 and under. Not 18 and under like the prosecution is fighting for. We'll know Monday when we hear the judges ruling. |
Weyoun
User ID: 81110693 United States 11/12/2021 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I haven't been following this very closely but my take on it is, the kid went looking for trouble and found some but it was clearly self defense regardless. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Those guys were trying to kill him, he was within his rights to use lethal force to defend himself but honestly he shouldn't have been there in the first place toting an assault rifle, looking for trouble. the more you talk the bigger the idiot you prove to be. go fuck yourself Yep... That's the problem. Too many fucking opinions by idiots that only halfway pay attention and have no balls. The kid was only doing what he thought was right. His father lived in that town. He didn't want to see it burned to the fucking ground by scum that were coming there. Went to do what he could. Got fucked with by said retards to the point where the only thing he felt like he could do was what he did. It shouldn't even be a question. To say that these fucking idiots deserved anything other than shot by someone is crazy. Kyle is a hero no matter what the outcome of this trial. Hell I wish there were a billion more Kyle's in this country. Hold up a second, guys. I have followed this from the beginning, and I did watch most of the trial, except for today because I'm trying to move. Anyway, I've followed close enough to have a valid opinion (in your eyes). I 100% agree with Trin. My son at that age would NEVER have been allowed to go to that riot in the first place. It's. A. RIOT. Kyle had no business being there. He did want to help. I understand that and I agree he's a good kid. But he is a kid. He should not have been there in the first place and he certainly shouldn't have had that gun. That said, he 100% acted in self defense. I don't think for one second this kid is a murderer. I just believe he never should have been there and this would have been avoided entirely. You did not raise your son to be a selfless citizen, but Kyle was apparently raised that way. He knew what was right for him to do and he did it. It may not have been right for your son, but it was right for Kyle. |
The Daddylorian
User ID: 78450705 United States 11/12/2021 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yep... That's the problem. Too many fucking opinions by idiots that only halfway pay attention and have no balls. The kid was only doing what he thought was right. His father lived in that town. He didn't want to see it burned to the fucking ground by scum that were coming there. Went to do what he could. Got fucked with by said retards to the point where the only thing he felt like he could do was what he did. It shouldn't even be a question. To say that these fucking idiots deserved anything other than shot by someone is crazy. Kyle is a hero no matter what the outcome of this trial. Hell I wish there were a billion more Kyle's in this country. Hold up a second, guys. I have followed this from the beginning, and I did watch most of the trial, except for today because I'm trying to move. Anyway, I've followed close enough to have a valid opinion (in your eyes). I 100% agree with Trin. My son at that age would NEVER have been allowed to go to that riot in the first place. It's. A. RIOT. Kyle had no business being there. He did want to help. I understand that and I agree he's a good kid. But he is a kid. He should not have been there in the first place and he certainly shouldn't have had that gun. That said, he 100% acted in self defense. I don't think for one second this kid is a murderer. I just believe he never should have been there and this would have been avoided entirely. You did not raise your son to be a selfless citizen, but Kyle was apparently raised that way. He knew what was right for him to do and he did it. It may not have been right for your son, but it was right for Kyle. I understand both points. I bet if we asked Kyle right now he would wish he never went. Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. Or something |
Weyoun
User ID: 81110693 United States 11/12/2021 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Veso Yep... That's the problem. Too many fucking opinions by idiots that only halfway pay attention and have no balls. The kid was only doing what he thought was right. His father lived in that town. He didn't want to see it burned to the fucking ground by scum that were coming there. Went to do what he could. Got fucked with by said retards to the point where the only thing he felt like he could do was what he did. It shouldn't even be a question. To say that these fucking idiots deserved anything other than shot by someone is crazy. Kyle is a hero no matter what the outcome of this trial. Hell I wish there were a billion more Kyle's in this country. Hold up a second, guys. I have followed this from the beginning, and I did watch most of the trial, except for today because I'm trying to move. Anyway, I've followed close enough to have a valid opinion (in your eyes). I 100% agree with Trin. My son at that age would NEVER have been allowed to go to that riot in the first place. It's. A. RIOT. Kyle had no business being there. He did want to help. I understand that and I agree he's a good kid. But he is a kid. He should not have been there in the first place and he certainly shouldn't have had that gun. That said, he 100% acted in self defense. I don't think for one second this kid is a murderer. I just believe he never should have been there and this would have been avoided entirely. You did not raise your son to be a selfless citizen, but Kyle was apparently raised that way. He knew what was right for him to do and he did it. It may not have been right for your son, but it was right for Kyle. I understand both points. I bet if we asked Kyle right now he would wish he never went. In a recent interview, his mom said he would still go out to help. Apparently that's how his mom raised him. Last Edited by Weyoun on 11/12/2021 08:22 PM |
PINKORCHID88;}~LET'S GO
User ID: 81108868 Australia 11/12/2021 08:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There’s also a lot of talk about zeminski being a FBI asset. Maybe someone can tract that down by Monday. Clearly they were protecting him. Quoting: NeroAxia That shoe fits , explains the focused video from chopper. Warning proceeding to read this may cause anxiety, poster is indemnified if you proceed. I can't give you the ultimate truth ,it's all a matter of perspective and spin. So I empower you with the gift of discernment. SEE THE TRUTH , KNOW THE TRUTH, FEEL THE TRUTH |
Eyeball Replacement
User ID: 79903136 United States 11/12/2021 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There’s also a lot of talk about zeminski being a FBI asset. Maybe someone can tract that down by Monday. Clearly they were protecting him. Quoting: NeroAxia That shoe fits , explains the focused video from chopper. So, an FBI asset fired the shot that led to all this? Wouldn’t surprise me one bit. In the eye of the storm ... |
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User ID: 81029771 United States 11/12/2021 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ThumbsUp So why didn't defense send a subpoena him then? I don't get it. He was talked about all through trial you would think defense would want him on the stand? Or the prosecution. It makes ZERO sense. He has to be someone. That’s the only explanation I have. You are presenting evidence that a man aimed a gun at someone starting this whole ordeal. It changes the entire case, for me. It’s what will decide if this kid is innocent or guilty. And they won’t call the witness to testify? What? In what world? Not only this, but no one even brought it up. Neither side. Like it was off limits… It’s blowing my mind. It would be one thing if the video evidence was clear. It’s not, and even then, why are you not bringing him in to clarify EXACTLY what happened. If I were Kyle I would have fired my defense and brought this up. Especially with the new footage. He clearly didn’t aim the gun and they lied. Idk. Just wild Even today during the hearing, Kyle's attorney even brought up Ziminksi, but he put the blame on the prosecutor for not calling him to the stand when they were talking about allowing the blurry photo to be admitted into evidence. So they know the State didn't call him why doesn't the defense take any blame? Oh I missed that. So they did bring it up… Interesting… I think maybe, neither party knew the truth and both were worried it would damage their case. [link to youtu.be (secure)] Go to 1:42.00 where defense talks about Ziminksi |
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User ID: 81108868 Australia 11/12/2021 08:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There’s also a lot of talk about zeminski being a FBI asset. Maybe someone can tract that down by Monday. Clearly they were protecting him. Quoting: NeroAxia That shoe fits , explains the focused video from chopper. So, an FBI asset fired the shot that led to all this? Wouldn’t surprise me one bit. I don't know , but if Zeminski and the F bee I were running an OP , perhaps as the Prosecution has firmly been focused on, it was about getting rid of AR15 s. Warning proceeding to read this may cause anxiety, poster is indemnified if you proceed. I can't give you the ultimate truth ,it's all a matter of perspective and spin. So I empower you with the gift of discernment. SEE THE TRUTH , KNOW THE TRUTH, FEEL THE TRUTH |
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User ID: 79903136 United States 11/12/2021 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There’s also a lot of talk about zeminski being a FBI asset. Maybe someone can tract that down by Monday. Clearly they were protecting him. Quoting: NeroAxia That shoe fits , explains the focused video from chopper. So, an FBI asset fired the shot that led to all this? Wouldn’t surprise me one bit. I don't know , but if Zeminski and the F bee I were running an OP , perhaps as the Prosecution has firmly been focused on, it was about getting rid of AR15 s. I was agreeing with you And, yes, there is a much bigger agenda at play. In the eye of the storm ... |
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User ID: 81029771 United States 11/12/2021 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There’s a huge push right now to continue pounding this “he shouldnt have been there” so that on Monday the prosecutor can ram through provocation. Quoting: NeroAxia It’s obvious. But what law was he breaking by being there? Having a gun? Would it change if the gun was purchased legally and he was 21? Or 40? Or a veteran? He has, in my opinion, every right to be there. If he he would have provoked anyone I’d be saying something else. But everything I’ve seen hasn’t shown a single instance of him doing anything illegal. It seems to me the argument and the overall sentiment is that, we should just not do anything, and watch them burn down the country. He was there, and it happened. Is he guilty of murder or was it self defense. Exactly. No one says shit about all the other people that were there. Many whom had weapons including gun (which has already been proven in court). It's been proven part of these rioters are felons, convicted scum of some sort of evil crime. Gun shots all night. Kyle wasn't the only one there. Kyle wasn't the only one with a gun. Why the push for he shouldn't of been there? Had this happen to another armed man would the narrative be the same? Doubt it. Ugh you guys are just trying to argue for the sake of arguing. Nobody should have been there because the riot should not have happened in the first place. Kyle saw the adults in charge doing nothing so he went. He is 17 and out past curfew. He had a gun he wasn't legally allowed to have. He went to help because he felt like somebody had to fo something. I agree he is a good kid. Better than most his age. I agree! But he shouldn't have gone. It's not a sudden push because I've said that all along since it happened. I am not some weird shill for gun control or whatever and you can do a search to see that I have been on glp for many years and have never pushed that type of narrative. That said, I 100% believe he acted in self defense and is not in any way responsible for these deaths. That is a separate issue. Goodness guys. I'm not here to argue amd I don't think you're even reading what I'm saying because if you were, you wouldn't be hateful to me. Geez these things bring out the worst in people. We're on the same side and yet... Welp, sowing division. Nice. Then why even bother with saying Kyle shouldnt of been there in the first place??? That was your words. Want me to quote it for you? Why not say it just plain self defense? But NO you had to say Kyle. You could of said " I agree none of these people should of been there in the first place" instead? Then to rebuttal yourself you say you agree 100% agree it was self defense. It shows your illogical thinking how you want to justify somehow Kyle did something wrong but at the same time he did something right. This case isn't about why who was there and why. It's is about SELF DEFENSE. PEROID. END OF STORY. |
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User ID: 81004338 Canada 11/12/2021 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So they're saying that someone who in their view provoked an attack, does not have the right to self defense. The state argues that extinguishing fires banishes the right to self defense because it provokes them. Pdf on Robert Barnes Viva locals. Unbelievable! And its crap shot what kind of jury. What bias's. Last Edited by Sungaze_At_Dawn on 11/12/2021 08:34 PM The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
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User ID: 81029771 United States 11/12/2021 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: NeroAxia Or the prosecution. It makes ZERO sense. He has to be someone. That’s the only explanation I have. You are presenting evidence that a man aimed a gun at someone starting this whole ordeal. It changes the entire case, for me. It’s what will decide if this kid is innocent or guilty. And they won’t call the witness to testify? What? In what world? Not only this, but no one even brought it up. Neither side. Like it was off limits… It’s blowing my mind. It would be one thing if the video evidence was clear. It’s not, and even then, why are you not bringing him in to clarify EXACTLY what happened. If I were Kyle I would have fired my defense and brought this up. Especially with the new footage. He clearly didn’t aim the gun and they lied. Idk. Just wild Even today during the hearing, Kyle's attorney even brought up Ziminksi, but he put the blame on the prosecutor for not calling him to the stand when they were talking about allowing the blurry photo to be admitted into evidence. So they know the State didn't call him why doesn't the defense take any blame? Oh I missed that. So they did bring it up… Interesting… I think maybe, neither party knew the truth and both were worried it would damage their case. [link to youtu.be (secure)] Go to 1:42.00 where defense talks about Ziminksi |