Let's decentralize the internet

I'm using Javascript / Node with Webtorrent related libraries.

Maybe we can use what I'm building to create a decentralized Github/Gitlab. That is possible..

Right now, my main goal is to solve an issue with WebTorrent tracker servers. From there, lots of other possibilities... I haven't completely ruled out crypto or ipfs. I'm just not fond of them.

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Yeah, that's exactly what I'm trying to solve at the moment. Instead of a central switching board, I'm building a swarm of central switching boards. It's still centralized in a way, but it will be less centralized than a single public tracker server.

Nah, not really. WebTorrent leverages WebRTC, which makes it possible for browsers to communicate directly with each other. Another interesting project called Direct Sockets may eventually do away with the need for tracker servers altogether.

I really like this idea.. it's outside of the scope of what I'm working on at the moment.

Adoption is a huge problem though.

I could imagine participating in a router project like Merlin or similar to make something like this happen though.

It already is.

Tor
I2P
Freenet

Just to name a few.

You could set up an old school dial up BBS.

How about a decentralized wireless mesh network.

Or if you you really want to live on the edge check out AirChat.

Thanks. I know there are other projects, but they require downloading a separate browser, installing an extension, etc.

I'm trying to make this possible from anyone's regular browser (PC or mobile), without extensions, which I already have working.

Trying to solve an issue with centralized tracker servers at the moment, by decentralizing trackers across a universal tracker swarm.

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p2p is nice but still based on internet backbone. ISPs ARPA DNS etc. it would be great another system altogether able to function after INTERNET KILL SWITCH is on

people can post gateway lists on the internet.
servers would need to come up and go down if they stayed up all the time they would get taken down and you would probably get taken down with it. in order to keep track of it all you have peers these people may or may not know each otherbut traffic can go through them and they can maintain their own lists which are dynamic similar to routing protocols you would need to have something like that or working along with it the tour has vulnerabilities and back doors all of the gateways are controlled if you put up a gateway it'll be taken down and you might be taken down with it in order for tour to be more secure gateways and other nodes should have more than one internet connection such as a cable modem DSL LTE and a peer connection to a nearby Wi-Fi by routing traffic in one connection and out to others it makes it more difficult for anyone to track where the traffic is going as it stands traffic goes in and AT&t connection and comes out in a t & t connection and it's trivially easy to track that and trace it back to its source. the crime syndicate that controls our government has already created software to track these connections across multiple isps so without the pure Wi-Fi it's pointless and even with it it's not enough.

Can't be done. You have to intercept the traffic before it goes out to a DNS server and route it somewhere else.

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1. Collect all the available general purpose ontologies that have been formalized in logic, including rules
2. Merge those axioms into a common product
3. Identify major areas of general knowledge that are not covered in existing research projects
4. Ontologize those areas
5. Map SUMO to WordNet
6. Augment SUMO with new ontological areas identified as missing in the process of doing the WordNet mappings. WordNet word meanings that do not have a "home" at a reasonably specific level of SUMO indicate a potential ontological gap. Follow an arbitrary cutoff of 1000 terms in SUMO, if the 1001st term is needed, put it in an appropriate domain ontology, or the MId-Level Ontology.
7. Develop domain ontologies as needed for a variety of customers
8. Add concepts to SUMO for domain specific content that isn't well supported at the upper level
9. Run a formal theorem prover on SUMO and the domain ontologies in order to find contradictions. Correct contradictions and add additional content as needed
10. Conduct an effort to extend SUMO by identifying the more common synsets in WordNet (those with an occurrance of greater than 3 in statistical count with respect to the Brown Corpus, otherwise known as WordNet SemCor) and create an equivalent concept if none already exists.
11. Repeat steps 7-9

Big tech will NEVER relinquish her power, specially one funded by gov. Only $35 trillion missing? Buwahahhah we invested some of that just to track your ass. Disemination of information was taken care of in the first $5 trillion. Some was used for smart toilets. The rest? You get the picture.

The internet sucks ... idk why everyone is so obsessed with it.

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Where can we look at what you have so far?

I have a few patents in digital communications. The internet by design was intended to be DECENTRALIZED. It used to be called DARPAnet and was to establish redundant and rebust comms during nuclear war.

The only exception being are organizations like IANA and IEEE which are needed to maintain standards. Otherwise nothing would be able to communicate and be incompatible if it were all proprietary.

There is Packet Radio which uses RF on VHF/UHF and RTTY on HF bands. VHF/UHF bands are short range comms < 100km, but there is meteor scatter in which the signal gets reflected back by the ionized air from the meteor burning up. Before cellphones, many trucking companies used this method to keep track of their fleets. HF bands can reach globally depending upon the solar weather and ionosphere conditions. RTTY is like using a 300 baud modem from the 1980's. At best you could get around 128 bytes of data in a packet.

I'm trying to understand what you mean by "decentralize the internet". If you're talking about clandestine comms, then you're talking old school spycraft techniques. Drop points for encrypted thumbdrives like ironkey, numbers stations, etc. But quantum encryption is the only way to ensure the sender and receiver have secure data. If some "man in the middle" intercepts it, it would tip off the intended persons (operatives) their comms and themselves are compromised.

So again, what is the purpose of your thread?

Building a quantum network sounds easy.

Should rename this post:

Let’s Hack the Planet!

It sounds like you are trying to design something without any specific requirements or goals in mind.

What exactly does "decentralize" mean to you?

I mean are you talking about this being an overlay on the internet or something completely isolated?

If it's an overlay on the internet, what is it that it is supposed to solve? Is the intention to still be able to access internet resources or have something isolated that can only be reached if participating, similar to Tor?

If it's not to access existing Internet resources, then what resources would it be accessing and where would the hosting occur?

Just not a lot of sense to this thread.

Isn't that how Skynet came into existence.

Beep Boop.

I am only here to bring peace.

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There is Yggdrasil and CJDNS which aim to be like an encrypted decentralized wireless mesh network. They can also use the Internet as a back bone. I have tried CJDNS over secure ad-hoc APs and I was able to send traffic over 100s of APs but at that time I switched back to batman-adv since it was a little more stable.

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The Association for Computing Machinery posted some cool talks from the recent Principles of Distributed Computing symposium. Check 'em out:
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I've thought of an "out of band" Intranet connected together via wireless using Lora. Lora in the US is in the 900 Mhz Spectrum, so using directional antennas, one can establish p2p connections several miles. Where a wireless link could not be established, use some sort of encrypted tunnel over current Internet. Also wherever possible run Fiber to your neighbor etc... Problem with Lora though, Amazon is already flooding that spectrum with their IoT Sidewalk trash.

With Lora, I think you could only achive modem like speeds, but text info is just as powerful as videos. I was using BBS's in the 80's, so I imagine folks could create BBS's.

I do know that some Amateur radio operators are already doing this over the Ham Bands, but that requires licensing, whereas Lora is License free.

That is awesome. Have you looked at Althea.net? Their business model is to reward those that expand and/or pass network traffic through their routers to be rewarded with crypto, so effectively creating a real asset backed crypto currency.

This thread is very important considering todays undeclared and unrestricted war is being fought on information mediums.

Like gnutella?
Is there any code there that you could use?