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I’ll Probably Get A Lot Of Backlash For Saying This, BUT WHEN WOMEN STARTED WORKING OUTSIDE THE HOME, Society Started To FALL APART!

 
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Communism 101: everyone will be out there working for the greater good of the State.

Don't worry about who's raising the kids, the State will do that and raise up good workers for the next generation
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I’ll Probably Get A Lot Of Backlash For Saying This, BUT WHEN WOMEN STARTED WORKING OUTSIDE THE HOME, Society Started To FALL APART!
And now all hell is breaking loose it appears.

This isn’t an indictment against women, as I am a woman myself (see avatar) but after contemplating this subject, I think what I’m saying has a lot of validity.

You can agree or disagree.

These are just my thoughts on the matter.

Since the 1970’s, there has been an acceleration towards society’s decline

Since the 1970’s:

1) abortion was legalized (1973)
2) the feminist movement :” In 1971, feminist Gloria Steinem joined Betty Friedan and Bella Abzug in founding the National Women’s Political Caucus“
3) in the 70’s there was a push to get women working outside the home. This was pushed in the media via television shows such as “ The Mary TylerMoore Show” (1970-77) “ one Day At A Time” (1975-1984)
“ Alice” (1976-1985”,”Maude” (1972-78) and on and on.
4) Ms. Magazine was founded in 1972.
5) Divorce was made more acceptable in the 1970’s. No fault divorce came into effect in 1970.
6) Daycare for children started to become popular due to more women working outside the home
7) the use of ADHD drugs such as Ritalin became popular in the 1970’s and onward.
8) Explosion iof sexually transmitted diseases ( started in the late 60’s)
9) Pornography....we know how has exploded

There is definitely a correlation between the traditional family structure breaking down and society breaking down which has resulted in divorce, ADHD chiidren’s behavior, a growing disrespect between the sexes: women against men, and men against women.

While I am not saying that the “ Ozzie And Harriet” lifestyle is the one everyone should be living, as that was a manufactured Hollywood illusion anyway, what I am saying is that all these factors have contributed to a breakdown in society.

If you have women working outside the home, who’s watching the children?

SOMEBODY ELSE.

And our out of control children are a RESULT of the neglect we see in society today.

-Women who don’t know how to act like women...ie snowflakes, who DEMAND their rights but get no respect, tattoos, shaving their hair, sexually irresponsible etc.

-Men who turn to the homosexual lifestyle because they don’t have good male role models due to divorce
-men rejecting their role as providers ...lonely men who only find satisfaction in temporary sexual encounters but only crave more and more

All because Mom (and dad) are not there to instill his/his values into their children.
If mom is working a full time job too, BOTH parents are exhausted, so it be comes a tug of war between who does the chores, giving children supervision, baths, putting dinner on the table etc.etc. Etc. which leads to fighting, lack of sex, frustration

Which’s leads to a disordered home and eventually a broken home, divorce, unhappy children, unhappy parents. Unhappy society.

Personally, I know when I gave up a lucrative career in the fashion industry, over time I have seen the positive result of my choosing to become a stay at home mother. And a support to my husband.


I enjoy making him tasty meals that he likes and makes me feel appreciated when he likes them, for example.

Simple enough right? So simple we tend to dismiss these traditional things.

Having a clean well ordered home..who has the energy and time to have this when you are working a full time job outside the home?

Well fed disciplined children who understand right from wrong.

Yes, initially, we had to downsize. And sacrifice some of the extras we were enjoying.
But now my family is ABUNDANTLY blessed with more than we want or need. You make adjustments. And it works.

Who needs a McMansion and chasing after all the goodies when you have PEACE and contentment?

I am happier than I have ever been. God has blessed my husband career more than ever and I am seeing the fruit of our discipline and sacrifice...

Hubby is blessed and feels respected because of his providing for the family.
I am not saying I am the poster child for domestic bliss, or that I am “all that”, because my hubby and I have had to work out and thru our differences. This takes time.

But in perspective, it has been time well invested and I wouldn’t want it any other way.
Basically, what I am saying is it can be done and if enough catch on to “going back to basics” we might see a lot happier, well adjusted people who contribute to society rather than tear it down.

And lest anyone thinks I am knocking my own sex, this thread is not addressed towards single women or divorced women, who, due to circumstances, have to work because the ex can’t or won’t pay child support and because they need to put food on the table...

No, this is addressed towards those who think chasing the almighty dollar is where it’s at...because it’s not...it only brings heartache when your career is your only friend, and you allow someone else to raise your own flesh and blood.

It’s heartache to you, and to your offspring. And to society.
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Well thought out, well articulated, full of logic and common sense, all in all a 5* thread!

Thank you!
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That's not true. If women had jobs, they worked in the home so they could also look after the kids. They did NOT go out to work when they had small children unless they were widows or had no other means of support. Jobs outside the home, where there were small children, WERE THE EXCEPTION. I'm old enough to remember this.
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You are remembering a time period where women working was less common. During WW2 and before that women regularly worked outside the home. Do you have memories prior to WW2? I doubt it. Not all women but a good portion worked outside the home. More well to do women did have have to but a good many did and during WW2 it was a necessity to keep the economy going. You need to look beyond your own limited history
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And how old are YOU to be lecturing me? What do YOU know of it? It's not only my experience but that of my parents who both grew up in the Depression - my father well before that, and my grandparents and all the other elderly people around me. I am telling you WOMEN DID NOT GENERALLY WORK OUTSIDE THE HOME. It was considered embarrassing because it meant your husband was a LOSER who could not support you. Yes, during WW2 itself women worked outside but that was because the men were at war, of course. Before that women who had small children DID NOT WORK OUTSIDE THE HOME as a rule.

You literally don't know what you're talking about.
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If the ugly truth be told, most men these days can't support themselves, much less a woman and kids. They're getting sorrier all the time. What the hell do i need a man for if I've got to raise him, too?
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Cool so you are admitting that the scales have been more than the "equality" the lezzies demanded, and now we can remove all the affirmative action laws.. unless you want to redefine who the "minority" is now and start paying guys their "equality"
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I have never met one woman who has ever said she was to blame for her broken marriages or relationships. Never once.

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I am 50% responsible for divorcing my 1st husband. I was 50% responsible for him smoking crack, losing his job and hitting me before our daughter was less than a year old. I am 50% responsible because I didn't think his choice to smoke crack had anything to do with all the work I had done to get him thru undergrad and grad school were worth sticking around.

Only 50% though.
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I’m sorry you had to go thru all that :(

You are not responsible for his bad decisions and choices. That was his choice alone.

But I get that you were being sarcastic in your comment to SentientTransient.
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The point of not being an apologist for men by taking the blame and putting it on women is important.

Blame deflecting is a defense mechanism. Used in war also as a tactic against the enemy. So there's a fine line when it comes to taking responsibility for behavior patterns.

Patriarchal society isn't natural. There has to be balance or the birthing rights of women are infringed. So if the man wants to be in charge then they ALL have to act accordingly and be responsible for the majority of the work load.

Once that broke down in the 1970's then women were forced to work. The key difference between patriarchy and feminism is their treatment of women; in patriarchy, women face oppression and discrimination whereas, in feminism, women have equal rights to men. Patriarchy is a system of society or government in which men hold power and women are largely excluded from it.

So men weren't willing to give up their dominance and wanted their cake too. However, if we place the blame on women then men get their cake too. See how that works?
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I can't believe they pay you money to larp as an "agent" all day. Clown world
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Oh and families that had farms the whole family worked on the farm-dad, mom, and kids when they were able to
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Yep. Industrialization and WWI WWII changed things.

NOW as we come up on WWIII it's going to be much worse and women will not be able to raise children. There will be MANY orphans, many desperate women, many disabled men, many deaths.

And what will women do? All the work, as usual.
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You are so full of lezzie shit it's unbelievable
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This happened on man's watch.

You were in power, but you ceded it.

White men, that is The only race on the planet to gleefully suicide itself and never advocate for itself.

Now you are neutered and we will all Darwin soon.
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Leftism is a far more powerful dynamic than merely the matter of whether women are staying at home or going to work.

Think of how Stalin, Hitler or Mao, as another example, didn't have black people to exploit for political reasons. They also didn't a large force of non-working, stay-at-home mothers demanding, "equal pay for equal work!"

Latchkey children certainly don't help a society. But the idiocy of liberalism marches to its own drummer.
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When Nixon took us off the gold standard, women had to work as the value of the dollar took a.nosedive
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This I took note of most definitely. There was the decline in motion already prior to then but I remember looking at ol' Tricky Dick on the boobtube saying he was taking us off the gold standard.

I knew that was a really, really bad thing, even w/out knowing all the ramifications that continue to roll out to this day.
And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm

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YOU ARE SOOOOOO RIGHT!
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Actually the Feminist movement started in 61 with the Commission from J.F. Kennedy

1961 commission on the status of women blew up with Friedan's book, and continued, in 1966, with the creation of the National Organisation for Women, which Friedan initially led.

By the way all of this was secretly funded by the Rockerfellers to get more women into the Workplace to have more tax payers.

Prior to 1961 the Black Community was destroyed and that when they started losing the Family Unit and really was pushed when Johnson got the Great Society To pass. this is what started to breakup of the black family unit which had a 95% until 59 or 60
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Hey I caught a ban in your other thread and the mods even deleted the funny lez videos and replies, but just wanted to add the real truth to this thread in case anyone still cares when it all really started

It was the suffragette drugged out witch lesbians in late 1800s-1913 running out of the blavatsky inspired rosecrucian and theosophist woo woo goddess worship "mystery schools" you still see going on today.

The guy krishnamurti that they were to setup as the next coming of Buddha tried to tell them they were all crazy drugged out lezzies and to knock it off, but that of course only resulted in them giving him the trump treatment and doubling down.

Been psycho mkultra violent baby murdering lezzies witch cult ever since

Enjoy your meth and DMT, and just tune in Joe Rogan, keep your head down and hopefully they let you live your life in peace without the gangster disciple / vice lord assassination attempts and lifelong red list gangstalking 1984 treatment
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To generalize, mostly the elite with assets have a structure to stay married and raise children within.

Even middle class people can't do this anymore, for whatever reason....Women are destroyed, and in turn the man woman relationship is destroyed (unless you're rich then you have incentive to stay together).

I was raised in a middle class household, had a long term relationship with a very wealthy man, was even engaged....they operate in an entirely different way.

The only reason he was allowed to pick the low hanging, middle class fruit (me) was because he was brain damaged. I still loved him and just considered him autistic, but it's a long story and he was just not right on every level.

Anyhow, our society has been destroyed.
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OP is right. Completely right. I was lucky enough to grow up in a house where my Mom stayed home and was a Mom. My Dad worked to provide for the family. My Mom made amazing dinners (actually she was a horrible cook, but they were amazing because my Mom made them). My Mom would decorate the house for holidays and make it warm and cozy. I would be out in the garage getting greasy and tinkering with my Dad on motorcycles and other things. It was just balanced and beautiful and it worked. Most kids today have no idea what that is like, how it was and how it should be.
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You’re forgetting that before these dates you mentioned, women were put to work in the background war efforts.
They become the factory workers of the wars.
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Now women can choose whether they want to stay home with their kids or whether they want to work. Whether their husband should stay home or whether they want kids af all.
Before women had no choice and were slaves to the man they had to marry. They could be beaten or raped or even killed with no recourse.
Women were like middle eastern Muslim women now, treated like 5th class citizens with no rights and almost all the responsibilities.
No thank you.
I am very glad to have my freedom.
I would never go back to the way things were.
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You’re forgetting that before these dates you mentioned, women were put to work in the background war efforts.
They become the factory workers of the wars.
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I don't think that was a good thing.

The sexes compliment eachother and should not compete with eachother.

Turning women into men was a terrible idea and has hurt our culture, families, etc....

I know, because I'm a woman that was figuratively turned into a man. I don't recommend it.
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This happened on man's watch.

You were in power, but you ceded it.

White men, that is The only race on the planet to gleefully suicide itself and never advocate for itself.

Now you are neutered and we will all Darwin soon.
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Actually it was a gang of drugged out lesbians in the "mystery school" occult societies in late 1800s who used poisoning, terrorism, murder, and "craft" to subdue the conservative english society, soon after resulting in multiple world wars that these same lesbians were directly involved with the promotion of. These same "mystery school" lesbian gangs exist to this day and run all of western society

Literal witches at black masses
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Oh and BTW when the divorce rate skyrocketed and when men started to bail from their responsibilities, this did help matters at all..


Hey Dumbfuck...
When Men/Dads are no longer welcomed into the homes that their Children reside in... Because Mom wants to be a Ghetto Whore.. But Dad still has to pay for her Whoring Lifestyle...

Who the fuck wants to hang around for that.. it is better to go find a good woman and have kids with her..
If you were not such a dumbfuck Soy Boy... you might smell what I’m stepping in Fuckface
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Now women can choose whether they want to stay home with their kids or whether they want to work. Whether their husband should stay home or whether they want kids af all.
Before women had no choice and were slaves to the man they had to marry. They could be beaten or raped or even killed with no recourse.
Women were like middle eastern Muslim women now, treated like 5th class citizens with no rights and almost all the responsibilities.
No thank you.
I am very glad to have my freedom.
I would never go back to the way things were.
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Oh please, American women in the 50's were not treated like Muslim women.

American women back then actually had more power than they do now. They knew how to be the boss while letting their husbands take the credit for being the boss.

Young women nowadays have lost that art.

Now, they have no power. And neither do the men.

Good job!
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You’re forgetting that before these dates you mentioned, women were put to work in the background war efforts.
They become the factory workers of the wars.
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If you look into Emeline Pankhurst you see she was actively involved in promoting the wars. She was even traveling by ship from country to country and giving passionate Elizabeth Warren level "you gotta fight!" - literal soapbox speaches, "inc3l shaming" started over a hundred years ago and occult societies full of drugged out lgbt have been running the ship ever since
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I’ll Probably Get A Lot Of Backlash For Saying This, BUT WHEN WOMEN STARTED WORKING OUTSIDE THE HOME, Society Started To FALL APART!
And now all hell is breaking loose it appears.

This isn’t an indictment against women, as I am a woman myself (see avatar) but after contemplating this subject, I think what I’m saying has a lot of validity.

You can agree or disagree.

These are just my thoughts on the matter.

Since the 1970’s, there has been an acceleration towards society’s decline

Since the 1970’s:

1) abortion was legalized (1973)
2) the feminist movement :” In 1971, feminist Gloria Steinem joined Betty Friedan and Bella Abzug in founding the National Women’s Political Caucus“
3) in the 70’s there was a push to get women working outside the home. This was pushed in the media via television shows such as “ The Mary TylerMoore Show” (1970-77) “ one Day At A Time” (1975-1984)
“ Alice” (1976-1985”,”Maude” (1972-78) and on and on.
4) Ms. Magazine was founded in 1972.
5) Divorce was made more acceptable in the 1970’s. No fault divorce came into effect in 1970.
6) Daycare for children started to become popular due to more women working outside the home
7) the use of ADHD drugs such as Ritalin became popular in the 1970’s and onward.
8) Explosion iof sexually transmitted diseases ( started in the late 60’s)
9) Pornography....we know how has exploded

There is definitely a correlation between the traditional family structure breaking down and society breaking down which has resulted in divorce, ADHD chiidren’s behavior, a growing disrespect between the sexes: women against men, and men against women.

While I am not saying that the “ Ozzie And Harriet” lifestyle is the one everyone should be living, as that was a manufactured Hollywood illusion anyway, what I am saying is that all these factors have contributed to a breakdown in society.

If you have women working outside the home, who’s watching the children?

SOMEBODY ELSE.

And our out of control children are a RESULT of the neglect we see in society today.

-Women who don’t know how to act like women...ie snowflakes, who DEMAND their rights but get no respect, tattoos, shaving their hair, sexually irresponsible etc.

-Men who turn to the homosexual lifestyle because they don’t have good male role models due to divorce
-men rejecting their role as providers ...lonely men who only find satisfaction in temporary sexual encounters but only crave more and more

All because Mom (and dad) are not there to instill his/his values into their children.
If mom is working a full time job too, BOTH parents are exhausted, so it be comes a tug of war between who does the chores, giving children supervision, baths, putting dinner on the table etc.etc. Etc. which leads to fighting, lack of sex, frustration

Which’s leads to a disordered home and eventually a broken home, divorce, unhappy children, unhappy parents. Unhappy society.

Personally, I know when I gave up a lucrative career in the fashion industry, over time I have seen the positive result of my choosing to become a stay at home mother. And a support to my husband.


I enjoy making him tasty meals that he likes and makes me feel appreciated when he likes them, for example.

Simple enough right? So simple we tend to dismiss these traditional things.

Having a clean well ordered home..who has the energy and time to have this when you are working a full time job outside the home?

Well fed disciplined children who understand right from wrong.

Yes, initially, we had to downsize. And sacrifice some of the extras we were enjoying.
But now my family is ABUNDANTLY blessed with more than we want or need. You make adjustments. And it works.

Who needs a McMansion and chasing after all the goodies when you have PEACE and contentment?

I am happier than I have ever been. God has blessed my husband career more than ever and I am seeing the fruit of our discipline and sacrifice...

Hubby is blessed and feels respected because of his providing for the family.
I am not saying I am the poster child for domestic bliss, or that I am “all that”, because my hubby and I have had to work out and thru our differences. This takes time.

But in perspective, it has been time well invested and I wouldn’t want it any other way.
Basically, what I am saying is it can be done and if enough catch on to “going back to basics” we might see a lot happier, well adjusted people who contribute to society rather than tear it down.

And lest anyone thinks I am knocking my own sex, this thread is not addressed towards single women or divorced women, who, due to circumstances, have to work because the ex can’t or won’t pay child support and because they need to put food on the table...

No, this is addressed towards those who think chasing the almighty dollar is where it’s at...because it’s not...it only brings heartache when your career is your only friend, and you allow someone else to raise your own flesh and blood.

It’s heartache to you, and to your offspring. And to society.
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I never even thought of it that way until a couple years ago when my based ass MOTHER IN LAW told me that and explained it to me!

I couldn't agree.
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I waited until my children started school before I went to work.I was always there when they came home from school.I enjoyed having children and had 6.
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Never trust a "woman" who has gone to a place called Smith College.. you have no idea how far this rabbit hole goes. And don't be fooled by their "husbands" and "children" either. You'd have to be on the inside for awhile to know just how bad this situation really is..

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Duh.. barefoot and preggers works for everyone
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Being a housewife takes a lot off effort and work for an ultimate provider, sadly few women fit the bill. They become entitled, overweight, and the kids still act rotten.
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The whole womens lib movement was started by the rockefellers to weaken the family and double the amount of income tax collected also ensuring your children are sent to public schools to recieve their indoctrination.
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Well said. I couldn't agree more. At the expense of sounding like a pessimist, everything sort of came together to elicit this effect of breaking down our society and remaking it in to a new way of living according to the Rockefeller plan. He even wrote a book about it.

I have the advantage of being 85 yrs-old so I have witnessed and lived through this collapse personally and at that time anyone expressing dismay at this cause of breakdown of society was made to feel that they were stupid and uninformed. Every show on tv was designed to reflect this new modern "improved" plan for the family
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I’ll Probably Get A Lot Of Backlash For Saying This, BUT WHEN WOMEN STARTED WORKING OUTSIDE THE HOME, Society Started To FALL APART!
And now all hell is breaking loose it appears.

This isn’t an indictment against women, as I am a woman myself (see avatar) but after contemplating this subject, I think what I’m saying has a lot of validity.

You can agree or disagree.

These are just my thoughts on the matter.

Since the 1970’s, there has been an acceleration towards society’s decline

Since the 1970’s:

1) abortion was legalized (1973)
2) the feminist movement :” In 1971, feminist Gloria Steinem joined Betty Friedan and Bella Abzug in founding the National Women’s Political Caucus“
3) in the 70’s there was a push to get women working outside the home. This was pushed in the media via television shows such as “ The Mary TylerMoore Show” (1970-77) “ one Day At A Time” (1975-1984)
“ Alice” (1976-1985”,”Maude” (1972-78) and on and on.
4) Ms. Magazine was founded in 1972.
5) Divorce was made more acceptable in the 1970’s. No fault divorce came into effect in 1970.
6) Daycare for children started to become popular due to more women working outside the home
7) the use of ADHD drugs such as Ritalin became popular in the 1970’s and onward.
8) Explosion iof sexually transmitted diseases ( started in the late 60’s)
9) Pornography....we know how has exploded

There is definitely a correlation between the traditional family structure breaking down and society breaking down which has resulted in divorce, ADHD chiidren’s behavior, a growing disrespect between the sexes: women against men, and men against women.

While I am not saying that the “ Ozzie And Harriet” lifestyle is the one everyone should be living, as that was a manufactured Hollywood illusion anyway, what I am saying is that all these factors have contributed to a breakdown in society.

If you have women working outside the home, who’s watching the children?

SOMEBODY ELSE.

And our out of control children are a RESULT of the neglect we see in society today.

-Women who don’t know how to act like women...ie snowflakes, who DEMAND their rights but get no respect, tattoos, shaving their hair, sexually irresponsible etc.

-Men who turn to the homosexual lifestyle because they don’t have good male role models due to divorce
-men rejecting their role as providers ...lonely men who only find satisfaction in temporary sexual encounters but only crave more and more

All because Mom (and dad) are not there to instill his/his values into their children.
If mom is working a full time job too, BOTH parents are exhausted, so it be comes a tug of war between who does the chores, giving children supervision, baths, putting dinner on the table etc.etc. Etc. which leads to fighting, lack of sex, frustration

Which’s leads to a disordered home and eventually a broken home, divorce, unhappy children, unhappy parents. Unhappy society.

Personally, I know when I gave up a lucrative career in the fashion industry, over time I have seen the positive result of my choosing to become a stay at home mother. And a support to my husband.


I enjoy making him tasty meals that he likes and makes me feel appreciated when he likes them, for example.

Simple enough right? So simple we tend to dismiss these traditional things.

Having a clean well ordered home..who has the energy and time to have this when you are working a full time job outside the home?

Well fed disciplined children who understand right from wrong.

Yes, initially, we had to downsize. And sacrifice some of the extras we were enjoying.
But now my family is ABUNDANTLY blessed with more than we want or need. You make adjustments. And it works.

Who needs a McMansion and chasing after all the goodies when you have PEACE and contentment?

I am happier than I have ever been. God has blessed my husband career more than ever and I am seeing the fruit of our discipline and sacrifice...

Hubby is blessed and feels respected because of his providing for the family.
I am not saying I am the poster child for domestic bliss, or that I am “all that”, because my hubby and I have had to work out and thru our differences. This takes time.

But in perspective, it has been time well invested and I wouldn’t want it any other way.
Basically, what I am saying is it can be done and if enough catch on to “going back to basics” we might see a lot happier, well adjusted people who contribute to society rather than tear it down.

And lest anyone thinks I am knocking my own sex, this thread is not addressed towards single women or divorced women, who, due to circumstances, have to work because the ex can’t or won’t pay child support and because they need to put food on the table...

No, this is addressed towards those who think chasing the almighty dollar is where it’s at...because it’s not...it only brings heartache when your career is your only friend, and you allow someone else to raise your own flesh and blood.

It’s heartache to you, and to your offspring. And to society.
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Betty friedmiller ... feminism was to break down white society , fucking hate them
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You are right on the mark OP. I am 75 lived through the liberated woman era. I, a couple of my friends all remained home running our households. Back then a man could make enough to support the family. But along came the keep up with the Jones attitude. Moms wer e leaving homes to buy a 2nd car, have luxurys they normally could not have.

ALL the kids ended up in trouble, some drugs, some alcohol, almost all ended in divorce AND women took mens jobs, inflation soared soon both parents had to work come the late 70's.

But the point of this original post is 100% correct!
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I’ll Probably Get A Lot Of Backlash For Saying This, BUT WHEN WOMEN STARTED WORKING OUTSIDE THE HOME, Society Started To FALL APART!
And now all hell is breaking loose it appears.

This isn’t an indictment against women, as I am a woman myself (see avatar) but after contemplating this subject, I think what I’m saying has a lot of validity.

You can agree or disagree.

These are just my thoughts on the matter.

Since the 1970’s, there has been an acceleration towards society’s decline

Since the 1970’s:

1) abortion was legalized (1973)
2) the feminist movement :” In 1971, feminist Gloria Steinem joined Betty Friedan and Bella Abzug in founding the National Women’s Political Caucus“
3) in the 70’s there was a push to get women working outside the home. This was pushed in the media via television shows such as “ The Mary TylerMoore Show” (1970-77) “ one Day At A Time” (1975-1984)
“ Alice” (1976-1985”,”Maude” (1972-78) and on and on.
4) Ms. Magazine was founded in 1972.
5) Divorce was made more acceptable in the 1970’s. No fault divorce came into effect in 1970.
6) Daycare for children started to become popular due to more women working outside the home
7) the use of ADHD drugs such as Ritalin became popular in the 1970’s and onward.
8) Explosion iof sexually transmitted diseases ( started in the late 60’s)
9) Pornography....we know how has exploded

There is definitely a correlation between the traditional family structure breaking down and society breaking down which has resulted in divorce, ADHD chiidren’s behavior, a growing disrespect between the sexes: women against men, and men against women.

While I am not saying that the “ Ozzie And Harriet” lifestyle is the one everyone should be living, as that was a manufactured Hollywood illusion anyway, what I am saying is that all these factors have contributed to a breakdown in society.

If you have women working outside the home, who’s watching the children?

SOMEBODY ELSE.

And our out of control children are a RESULT of the neglect we see in society today.

-Women who don’t know how to act like women...ie snowflakes, who DEMAND their rights but get no respect, tattoos, shaving their hair, sexually irresponsible etc.

-Men who turn to the homosexual lifestyle because they don’t have good male role models due to divorce
-men rejecting their role as providers ...lonely men who only find satisfaction in temporary sexual encounters but only crave more and more

All because Mom (and dad) are not there to instill his/his values into their children.
If mom is working a full time job too, BOTH parents are exhausted, so it be comes a tug of war between who does the chores, giving children supervision, baths, putting dinner on the table etc.etc. Etc. which leads to fighting, lack of sex, frustration

Which’s leads to a disordered home and eventually a broken home, divorce, unhappy children, unhappy parents. Unhappy society.

Personally, I know when I gave up a lucrative career in the fashion industry, over time I have seen the positive result of my choosing to become a stay at home mother. And a support to my husband.


I enjoy making him tasty meals that he likes and makes me feel appreciated when he likes them, for example.

Simple enough right? So simple we tend to dismiss these traditional things.

Having a clean well ordered home..who has the energy and time to have this when you are working a full time job outside the home?

Well fed disciplined children who understand right from wrong.

Yes, initially, we had to downsize. And sacrifice some of the extras we were enjoying.
But now my family is ABUNDANTLY blessed with more than we want or need. You make adjustments. And it works.

Who needs a McMansion and chasing after all the goodies when you have PEACE and contentment?

I am happier than I have ever been. God has blessed my husband career more than ever and I am seeing the fruit of our discipline and sacrifice...

Hubby is blessed and feels respected because of his providing for the family.
I am not saying I am the poster child for domestic bliss, or that I am “all that”, because my hubby and I have had to work out and thru our differences. This takes time.

But in perspective, it has been time well invested and I wouldn’t want it any other way.
Basically, what I am saying is it can be done and if enough catch on to “going back to basics” we might see a lot happier, well adjusted people who contribute to society rather than tear it down.

And lest anyone thinks I am knocking my own sex, this thread is not addressed towards single women or divorced women, who, due to circumstances, have to work because the ex can’t or won’t pay child support and because they need to put food on the table...

No, this is addressed towards those who think chasing the almighty dollar is where it’s at...because it’s not...it only brings heartache when your career is your only friend, and you allow someone else to raise your own flesh and blood.

It’s heartache to you, and to your offspring. And to society.
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