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I’ll Probably Get A Lot Of Backlash For Saying This, BUT WHEN WOMEN STARTED WORKING OUTSIDE THE HOME, Society Started To FALL APART!
And now all hell is breaking loose it appears.

This isn’t an indictment against women, as I am a woman myself (see avatar) but after contemplating this subject, I think what I’m saying has a lot of validity.

You can agree or disagree.

These are just my thoughts on the matter.

Since the 1970’s, there has been an acceleration towards society’s decline

Since the 1970’s:

1) abortion was legalized (1973)
2) the feminist movement :” In 1971, feminist Gloria Steinem joined Betty Friedan and Bella Abzug in founding the National Women’s Political Caucus“
3) in the 70’s there was a push to get women working outside the home. This was pushed in the media via television shows such as “ The Mary TylerMoore Show” (1970-77) “ one Day At A Time” (1975-1984)
“ Alice” (1976-1985”,”Maude” (1972-78) and on and on.
4) Ms. Magazine was founded in 1972.
5) Divorce was made more acceptable in the 1970’s. No fault divorce came into effect in 1970.
6) Daycare for children started to become popular due to more women working outside the home
7) the use of ADHD drugs such as Ritalin became popular in the 1970’s and onward.
8) Explosion iof sexually transmitted diseases ( started in the late 60’s)
9) Pornography....we know how has exploded

There is definitely a correlation between the traditional family structure breaking down and society breaking down which has resulted in divorce, ADHD chiidren’s behavior, a growing disrespect between the sexes: women against men, and men against women.

While I am not saying that the “ Ozzie And Harriet” lifestyle is the one everyone should be living, as that was a manufactured Hollywood illusion anyway, what I am saying is that all these factors have contributed to a breakdown in society.

If you have women working outside the home, who’s watching the children?

SOMEBODY ELSE.

And our out of control children are a RESULT of the neglect we see in society today.

-Women who don’t know how to act like women...ie snowflakes, who DEMAND their rights but get no respect, tattoos, shaving their hair, sexually irresponsible etc.

-Men who turn to the homosexual lifestyle because they don’t have good male role models due to divorce
-men rejecting their role as providers ...lonely men who only find satisfaction in temporary sexual encounters but only crave more and more

All because Mom (and dad) are not there to instill his/his values into their children.
If mom is working a full time job too, BOTH parents are exhausted, so it be comes a tug of war between who does the chores, giving children supervision, baths, putting dinner on the table etc.etc. Etc. which leads to fighting, lack of sex, frustration

Which’s leads to a disordered home and eventually a broken home, divorce, unhappy children, unhappy parents. Unhappy society.

Personally, I know when I gave up a lucrative career in the fashion industry, over time I have seen the positive result of my choosing to become a stay at home mother. And a support to my husband.


I enjoy making him tasty meals that he likes and makes me feel appreciated when he likes them, for example.

Simple enough right? So simple we tend to dismiss these traditional things.

Having a clean well ordered home..who has the energy and time to have this when you are working a full time job outside the home?

Well fed disciplined children who understand right from wrong.

Yes, initially, we had to downsize. And sacrifice some of the extras we were enjoying.
But now my family is ABUNDANTLY blessed with more than we want or need. You make adjustments. And it works.

Who needs a McMansion and chasing after all the goodies when you have PEACE and contentment?

I am happier than I have ever been. God has blessed my husband career more than ever and I am seeing the fruit of our discipline and sacrifice...

Hubby is blessed and feels respected because of his providing for the family.
I am not saying I am the poster child for domestic bliss, or that I am “all that”, because my hubby and I have had to work out and thru our differences. This takes time.

But in perspective, it has been time well invested and I wouldn’t want it any other way.
Basically, what I am saying is it can be done and if enough catch on to “going back to basics” we might see a lot happier, well adjusted people who contribute to society rather than tear it down.

And lest anyone thinks I am knocking my own sex, this thread is not addressed towards single women or divorced women, who, due to circumstances, have to work because the ex can’t or won’t pay child support and because they need to put food on the table...

No, this is addressed towards those who think chasing the almighty dollar is where it’s at...because it’s not...it only brings heartache when your career is your only friend, and you allow someone else to raise your own flesh and blood.

It’s heartache to you, and to your offspring. And to society.
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Of course. You’re a little late to the party, dear.

All part of the destruction of the family unit.

All by design.
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Let's face it; women were living on easy street. Categorised with children, i.e. 'Women and Children', for good reason, they were sheltered, nurtured and kept away from the harsher realities of life. It was in men's nature to protect them from harm.
Thanks to the lies of Feminism, their lives are harder, less rewarding, less productive, and less happy. Men are unlikely to protect them from harm, because sexism. They're really kind of on their own now.

Think about how a typical feminist, sitting on her fat, hairy, malodorous butt, occasionally contributing articles for online media sites, will encourage young girls to take up machine coding, if you will. 'Go do a job that is hard, socially isolating, requires endless training and patience for often virtually no reward, while I sit here drinking tea getting paid money for old rope. It'll make ME feel better' ..Fucking gross.
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You do know that toxic feminisim is the exact refeltion of toxic masculinity right???

It's just a mirror.

Equilist is the true way to be... no patriarcy, no matriarcy... co-equal... co-creators... sharing a vision...

In this vision there should be no battle of the sexes. Just a society that envisions healthy balance that's all, but I fear this is too boring for an entertainment baised immidiate gratification consumerist socoiety.
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More available workers and the downfall of unions allowed corporations to steal more labor from workers. Profits are just stolen wages made off the backs of the working man.
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If you if you just search on, "the myth of having it all" there is criticism of that idea even in the liberal press these days. I started hearing it coming of age in the early 70s.

In some ways it's encouraging. The idea, "okay girl you can have that career and you can raise a family. You can do it!"
It's more like "some" can do it.



I really am a dinosaur. I shake my head when I hear things about active duty women in military being deployed away from home for a year. Yes, someone can care for her children, but she's the one that brought them into the world and she's not doing it. She's thousands of miles away soldiering. If she's not there she's not doing the job of raising her children.
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I don't know how she can bear it emotionally. I know fathers do it, and I know their hearts ache being away from their children- but, perhaps sounding prejudice, I believe it's "normal and usual" for a mother to have an extra bond with her child- a chemical/biological thing that happens after giving birth.
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...



If you if you just search on, "the myth of having it all" there is criticism of that idea even in the liberal press these days. I started hearing it coming of age in the early 70s.

In some ways it's encouraging. The idea, "okay girl you can have that career and you can raise a family. You can do it!"
It's more like "some" can do it.



I really am a dinosaur. I shake my head when I hear things about active duty women in military being deployed away from home for a year. Yes, someone can care for her children, but she's the one that brought them into the world and she's not doing it. She's thousands of miles away soldiering. If she's not there she's not doing the job of raising her children.
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I don't know how she can bear it emotionally. I know fathers do it, and I know their hearts ache being away from their children- but, perhaps sounding prejudice, I believe it's "normal and usual" for a mother to have an extra bond with her child- a chemical/biological thing that happens after giving birth.
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Personally I don’t think women should be in the military, but that’s me.
 Quoting: Very Interesting


I'm weird in that I am a very cynical and jaded person on one hand, yet I think that people should have common sense and goals that go along with common sense and nature. Marriage and parenthood is not meant for some people and women should not have to have that as their only option for survival. However, if you choose to have children I think you should intend to give them the optimum situation- a father and mother committed to each other and to them in a traditional situation- and as a society we should value that and try to shape policies to make it usual and more easy to accomplish.

As far as single women in the military- I see nothing wrong with it in supporting roles- just not combat. It is a VERY, VERY rare woman who could handle that. From the way we are built, to our monthly cycles, to the fact that rape while captured can make us pregnant, the biological protective instinct many males have toward females that could affect the male soldiers, etc., etc., etc., etc. makes us poor candidates for combat.
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Supporting roles...perhaps.

But combat, no. In my humble opinion.
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I’ll Probably Get A Lot Of Backlash For Saying This, BUT WHEN WOMEN STARTED WORKING OUTSIDE THE HOME, Society Started To FALL APART!
And now all hell is breaking loose it appears.

This isn’t an indictment against women, as I am a woman myself (see avatar) but after contemplating this subject, I think what I’m saying has a lot of validity.

You can agree or disagree.

These are just my thoughts on the matter.

Since the 1970’s, there has been an acceleration towards society’s decline

Since the 1970’s:

1) abortion was legalized (1973)
2) the feminist movement :” In 1971, feminist Gloria Steinem joined Betty Friedan and Bella Abzug in founding the National Women’s Political Caucus“
3) in the 70’s there was a push to get women working outside the home. This was pushed in the media via television shows such as “ The Mary TylerMoore Show” (1970-77) “ one Day At A Time” (1975-1984)
“ Alice” (1976-1985”,”Maude” (1972-78) and on and on.
4) Ms. Magazine was founded in 1972.
5) Divorce was made more acceptable in the 1970’s. No fault divorce came into effect in 1970.
6) Daycare for children started to become popular due to more women working outside the home
7) the use of ADHD drugs such as Ritalin became popular in the 1970’s and onward.
8) Explosion iof sexually transmitted diseases ( started in the late 60’s)
9) Pornography....we know how has exploded

There is definitely a correlation between the traditional family structure breaking down and society breaking down which has resulted in divorce, ADHD chiidren’s behavior, a growing disrespect between the sexes: women against men, and men against women.

While I am not saying that the “ Ozzie And Harriet” lifestyle is the one everyone should be living, as that was a manufactured Hollywood illusion anyway, what I am saying is that all these factors have contributed to a breakdown in society.

If you have women working outside the home, who’s watching the children?

SOMEBODY ELSE.

And our out of control children are a RESULT of the neglect we see in society today.

-Women who don’t know how to act like women...ie snowflakes, who DEMAND their rights but get no respect, tattoos, shaving their hair, sexually irresponsible etc.

-Men who turn to the homosexual lifestyle because they don’t have good male role models due to divorce
-men rejecting their role as providers ...lonely men who only find satisfaction in temporary sexual encounters but only crave more and more

All because Mom (and dad) are not there to instill his/his values into their children.
If mom is working a full time job too, BOTH parents are exhausted, so it be comes a tug of war between who does the chores, giving children supervision, baths, putting dinner on the table etc.etc. Etc. which leads to fighting, lack of sex, frustration

Which’s leads to a disordered home and eventually a broken home, divorce, unhappy children, unhappy parents. Unhappy society.

Personally, I know when I gave up a lucrative career in the fashion industry, over time I have seen the positive result of my choosing to become a stay at home mother. And a support to my husband.


I enjoy making him tasty meals that he likes and makes me feel appreciated when he likes them, for example.

Simple enough right? So simple we tend to dismiss these traditional things.

Having a clean well ordered home..who has the energy and time to have this when you are working a full time job outside the home?

Well fed disciplined children who understand right from wrong.

Yes, initially, we had to downsize. And sacrifice some of the extras we were enjoying.
But now my family is ABUNDANTLY blessed with more than we want or need. You make adjustments. And it works.

Who needs a McMansion and chasing after all the goodies when you have PEACE and contentment?

I am happier than I have ever been. God has blessed my husband career more than ever and I am seeing the fruit of our discipline and sacrifice...

Hubby is blessed and feels respected because of his providing for the family.
I am not saying I am the poster child for domestic bliss, or that I am “all that”, because my hubby and I have had to work out and thru our differences. This takes time.

But in perspective, it has been time well invested and I wouldn’t want it any other way.
Basically, what I am saying is it can be done and if enough catch on to “going back to basics” we might see a lot happier, well adjusted people who contribute to society rather than tear it down.

And lest anyone thinks I am knocking my own sex, this thread is not addressed towards single women or divorced women, who, due to circumstances, have to work because the ex can’t or won’t pay child support and because they need to put food on the table...

No, this is addressed towards those who think chasing the almighty dollar is where it’s at...because it’s not...it only brings heartache when your career is your only friend, and you allow someone else to raise your own flesh and blood.

It’s heartache to you, and to your offspring. And to society.
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Of course. You’re a little late to the party, dear.

All part of the destruction of the family unit.

All by design.
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Well maybe I’m a little late to the party but what I wrote still has validity no?

I agree with you, it is all by design.

Doesn’t mean we have to be part of that design.

We make our own choices.
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I agree but it’s nothing compared to when they have the darkies a pen.

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I don't know how she can bear it emotionally. I know fathers do it, and I know their hearts ache being away from their children- but, perhaps sounding prejudice, I believe it's "normal and usual" for a mother to have an extra bond with her child- a chemical/biological thing that happens after giving birth.
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I don't know how she can bear it emotionally. I know fathers do it, and I know their hearts ache being away from their children- but, perhaps sounding prejudice, I believe it's "normal and usual" for a mother to have an extra bond with her child- a chemical/biological thing that happens after giving birth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80064536


Personally I don’t think women should be in the military, but that’s me.
 Quoting: Very Interesting


I'm weird in that I am a very cynical and jaded person on one hand, yet I think that people should have common sense and goals that go along with common sense and nature. Marriage and parenthood is not meant for some people and women should not have to have that as their only option for survival. However, if you choose to have children I think you should intend to give them the optimum situation- a father and mother committed to each other and to them in a traditional situation- and as a society we should value that and try to shape policies to make it usual and more easy to accomplish.

As far as single women in the military- I see nothing wrong with it in supporting roles- just not combat. It is a VERY, VERY rare woman who could handle that. From the way we are built, to our monthly cycles, to the fact that rape while captured can make us pregnant, the biological protective instinct many males have toward females that could affect the male soldiers, etc., etc., etc., etc. makes us poor candidates for combat.
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Supporting roles...perhaps.

But combat, no. In my humble opinion.
 Quoting: Very Interesting


That "women's group" push for women in combat and to sign up for the draft is insane to me. So much seems insane.
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It actually started to fall apart when women obtained the right to vote.
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Not that I have a problem with women who want a career, but it was the beginning of the decline of the family..

All by design.
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aka when the bankers/slaveowners realized 2 tax-payers is better than one
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aka when the bankers/slaveowners realized 2 tax-payers is better than one
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Absolutely Correct!
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They destroyed the family unit. Now anyone can indoctrinate your kids!
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OP, Women started working outside the home, which was promoted by Women's Lib, because they no longer wanted to stay with a physically violent and/or abusive husband.

Or to be married off by their poor parents to any man who'd take them.

Please ask young women what it's like when they have very few options in life.
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OP, Women started working outside the home, which was promoted by Women's Lib, because they no longer wanted to stay with a physically violent and/or abusive husband.

Or to be married off by their poor parents to any man who'd take them.

Please ask young women what it's like when they have very few options in life.
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I commented to someone else that no one should stay in an abusive situation.

But the feminist movement still isn’t the answer.
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Completely disagree

Society has always been "falling apart" in one way or another.

People are living much longer now than in many previous times
Maternal mortality has decreased significantly
The ability to have financial independence has made it possible for women to leave unhealthy relationships.

Once upon a time, women worked outside the home as maids, cooks etc. etc.
But, we still don't really consider the work that women do as work. So we forget about all the work women have done outside of their own homes.
And think that women used to always just work in their homes.

All hell breaking loose may be due to infiltration of well-meaning movements and nothing to do with the true aims of the movements themselves.

Case in point, how far have we advanced in improving the lives of women if we still think that women never really worked outside of the home
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I’ll Probably Get A Lot Of Backlash For Saying This, BUT WHEN WOMEN STARTED WORKING OUTSIDE THE HOME, Society Started To FALL APART!
And now all hell is breaking loose it appears.

This isn’t an indictment against women, as I am a woman myself (see avatar) but after contemplating this subject, I think what I’m saying has a lot of validity.

You can agree or disagree.

These are just my thoughts on the matter.

Since the 1970’s, there has been an acceleration towards society’s decline

Since the 1970’s:

1) abortion was legalized (1973)
2) the feminist movement :” In 1971, feminist Gloria Steinem joined Betty Friedan and Bella Abzug in founding the National Women’s Political Caucus“
3) in the 70’s there was a push to get women working outside the home. This was pushed in the media via television shows such as “ The Mary TylerMoore Show” (1970-77) “ one Day At A Time” (1975-1984)
“ Alice” (1976-1985”,”Maude” (1972-78) and on and on.
4) Ms. Magazine was founded in 1972.
5) Divorce was made more acceptable in the 1970’s. No fault divorce came into effect in 1970.
6) Daycare for children started to become popular due to more women working outside the home
7) the use of ADHD drugs such as Ritalin became popular in the 1970’s and onward.
8) Explosion iof sexually transmitted diseases ( started in the late 60’s)
9) Pornography....we know how has exploded

There is definitely a correlation between the traditional family structure breaking down and society breaking down which has resulted in divorce, ADHD chiidren’s behavior, a growing disrespect between the sexes: women against men, and men against women.

While I am not saying that the “ Ozzie And Harriet” lifestyle is the one everyone should be living, as that was a manufactured Hollywood illusion anyway, what I am saying is that all these factors have contributed to a breakdown in society.

If you have women working outside the home, who’s watching the children?

SOMEBODY ELSE.

And our out of control children are a RESULT of the neglect we see in society today.

-Women who don’t know how to act like women...ie snowflakes, who DEMAND their rights but get no respect, tattoos, shaving their hair, sexually irresponsible etc.

-Men who turn to the homosexual lifestyle because they don’t have good male role models due to divorce
-men rejecting their role as providers ...lonely men who only find satisfaction in temporary sexual encounters but only crave more and more

All because Mom (and dad) are not there to instill his/his values into their children.
If mom is working a full time job too, BOTH parents are exhausted, so it be comes a tug of war between who does the chores, giving children supervision, baths, putting dinner on the table etc.etc. Etc. which leads to fighting, lack of sex, frustration

Which’s leads to a disordered home and eventually a broken home, divorce, unhappy children, unhappy parents. Unhappy society.

Personally, I know when I gave up a lucrative career in the fashion industry, over time I have seen the positive result of my choosing to become a stay at home mother. And a support to my husband.


I enjoy making him tasty meals that he likes and makes me feel appreciated when he likes them, for example.

Simple enough right? So simple we tend to dismiss these traditional things.

Having a clean well ordered home..who has the energy and time to have this when you are working a full time job outside the home?

Well fed disciplined children who understand right from wrong.

Yes, initially, we had to downsize. And sacrifice some of the extras we were enjoying.
But now my family is ABUNDANTLY blessed with more than we want or need. You make adjustments. And it works.

Who needs a McMansion and chasing after all the goodies when you have PEACE and contentment?

I am happier than I have ever been. God has blessed my husband career more than ever and I am seeing the fruit of our discipline and sacrifice...

Hubby is blessed and feels respected because of his providing for the family.
I am not saying I am the poster child for domestic bliss, or that I am “all that”, because my hubby and I have had to work out and thru our differences. This takes time.

But in perspective, it has been time well invested and I wouldn’t want it any other way.
Basically, what I am saying is it can be done and if enough catch on to “going back to basics” we might see a lot happier, well adjusted people who contribute to society rather than tear it down.

And lest anyone thinks I am knocking my own sex, this thread is not addressed towards single women or divorced women, who, due to circumstances, have to work because the ex can’t or won’t pay child support and because they need to put food on the table...

No, this is addressed towards those who think chasing the almighty dollar is where it’s at...because it’s not...it only brings heartache when your career is your only friend, and you allow someone else to raise your own flesh and blood.

It’s heartache to you, and to your offspring. And to society.
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BINGO! I lived through all these changes and watched as the values of family life deteriorated to what we have now. Society as a whole has gone to hell.
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Supporting roles...perhaps.

But combat, no. In my humble opinion.
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That "women's group" push for women in combat and to sign up for the draft is insane to me. So much seems insane.
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Draft for men and women upcoming. Maybe within weeks.
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OP, Women started working outside the home, which was promoted by Women's Lib, because they no longer wanted to stay with a physically violent and/or abusive husband.

Or to be married off by their poor parents to any man who'd take them.

Please ask young women what it's like when they have very few options in life.
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I commented to someone else that no one should stay in an abusive situation.

But the feminist movement still isn’t the answer.
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Maybe we need to reclaim the feminist movement from those who usurped it.
Maybe then we would improve the lives of women (and children and men).
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1 Timothy 2:12 ESV / 7 helpful votes
I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.

1 Timothy 2:11-15 ESV / 6 helpful votes
Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet she will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control.
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Completely disagree

Society has always been "falling apart" in one way or another.

People are living much longer now than in many previous times
Maternal mortality has decreased significantly
The ability to have financial independence has made it possible for women to leave unhealthy relationships.

Once upon a time, women worked outside the home as maids, cooks etc. etc.
But, we still don't really consider the work that women do as work. So we forget about all the work women have done outside of their own homes.
And think that women used to always just work in their homes.

All hell breaking loose may be due to infiltration of well-meaning movements and nothing to do with the true aims of the movements themselves.

Case in point, how far have we advanced in improving the lives of women if we still think that women never really worked outside of the home
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Yes. 80 year cycle. The same for thousands of years. Yep.

Same behavior, same issues, same events in 20 year increments.
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good analysis.
'If the wankers do not now come to their senses and clean up their stupid act, they may anticipate a rain of ruin from the sky, the like of which has never been seen on this Earth,,,'
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Supporting roles...perhaps.

But combat, no. In my humble opinion.
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That "women's group" push for women in combat and to sign up for the draft is insane to me. So much seems insane.
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Draft for men and women upcoming. Maybe within weeks.
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Really? Yikes!
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OP, Women started working outside the home, which was promoted by Women's Lib, because they no longer wanted to stay with a physically violent and/or abusive husband.

Or to be married off by their poor parents to any man who'd take them.

Please ask young women what it's like when they have very few options in life.
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I commented to someone else that no one should stay in an abusive situation.

But the feminist movement still isn’t the answer.
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Maybe we need to reclaim the feminist movement from those who usurped it.
Maybe then we would improve the lives of women (and children and men).
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Sounds like a plan.
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Cable tv killed it
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I’ll Probably Get A Lot Of Backlash For Saying This, BUT WHEN WOMEN STARTED WORKING OUTSIDE THE HOME, Society Started To FALL APART!
And now all hell is breaking loose it appears.

This isn’t an indictment against women, as I am a woman myself (see avatar) but after contemplating this subject, I think what I’m saying has a lot of validity.

You can agree or disagree.

These are just my thoughts on the matter.

Since the 1970’s, there has been an acceleration towards society’s decline

Since the 1970’s:

1) abortion was legalized (1973)
2) the feminist movement :” In 1971, feminist Gloria Steinem joined Betty Friedan and Bella Abzug in founding the National Women’s Political Caucus“
3) in the 70’s there was a push to get women working outside the home. This was pushed in the media via television shows such as “ The Mary TylerMoore Show” (1970-77) “ one Day At A Time” (1975-1984)
“ Alice” (1976-1985”,”Maude” (1972-78) and on and on.
4) Ms. Magazine was founded in 1972.
5) Divorce was made more acceptable in the 1970’s. No fault divorce came into effect in 1970.
6) Daycare for children started to become popular due to more women working outside the home
7) the use of ADHD drugs such as Ritalin became popular in the 1970’s and onward.
8) Explosion iof sexually transmitted diseases ( started in the late 60’s)
9) Pornography....we know how has exploded

There is definitely a correlation between the traditional family structure breaking down and society breaking down which has resulted in divorce, ADHD chiidren’s behavior, a growing disrespect between the sexes: women against men, and men against women.

While I am not saying that the “ Ozzie And Harriet” lifestyle is the one everyone should be living, as that was a manufactured Hollywood illusion anyway, what I am saying is that all these factors have contributed to a breakdown in society.

If you have women working outside the home, who’s watching the children?

SOMEBODY ELSE.

And our out of control children are a RESULT of the neglect we see in society today.

-Women who don’t know how to act like women...ie snowflakes, who DEMAND their rights but get no respect, tattoos, shaving their hair, sexually irresponsible etc.

-Men who turn to the homosexual lifestyle because they don’t have good male role models due to divorce
-men rejecting their role as providers ...lonely men who only find satisfaction in temporary sexual encounters but only crave more and more

All because Mom (and dad) are not there to instill his/his values into their children.
If mom is working a full time job too, BOTH parents are exhausted, so it be comes a tug of war between who does the chores, giving children supervision, baths, putting dinner on the table etc.etc. Etc. which leads to fighting, lack of sex, frustration

Which’s leads to a disordered home and eventually a broken home, divorce, unhappy children, unhappy parents. Unhappy society.

Personally, I know when I gave up a lucrative career in the fashion industry, over time I have seen the positive result of my choosing to become a stay at home mother. And a support to my husband.


I enjoy making him tasty meals that he likes and makes me feel appreciated when he likes them, for example.

Simple enough right? So simple we tend to dismiss these traditional things.

Having a clean well ordered home..who has the energy and time to have this when you are working a full time job outside the home?

Well fed disciplined children who understand right from wrong.

Yes, initially, we had to downsize. And sacrifice some of the extras we were enjoying.
But now my family is ABUNDANTLY blessed with more than we want or need. You make adjustments. And it works.

Who needs a McMansion and chasing after all the goodies when you have PEACE and contentment?

I am happier than I have ever been. God has blessed my husband career more than ever and I am seeing the fruit of our discipline and sacrifice...

Hubby is blessed and feels respected because of his providing for the family.
I am not saying I am the poster child for domestic bliss, or that I am “all that”, because my hubby and I have had to work out and thru our differences. This takes time.

But in perspective, it has been time well invested and I wouldn’t want it any other way.
Basically, what I am saying is it can be done and if enough catch on to “going back to basics” we might see a lot happier, well adjusted people who contribute to society rather than tear it down.

And lest anyone thinks I am knocking my own sex, this thread is not addressed towards single women or divorced women, who, due to circumstances, have to work because the ex can’t or won’t pay child support and because they need to put food on the table...

No, this is addressed towards those who think chasing the almighty dollar is where it’s at...because it’s not...it only brings heartache when your career is your only friend, and you allow someone else to raise your own flesh and blood.

It’s heartache to you, and to your offspring. And to society.
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It’s true OP. It started in the 1920s when they were given the right to vote.





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