Mezzo's Thursday Mezzage, the final chapter..

I hear your message, but I am not sure you are framing the situation correctly.

"We live in a society where slick and loud mouthed media driven marketeers on either side of the political spectrum try to not only get everyone in their camp and sell their product, but use the most aggressive ways to ridicule the other side. If you are not with us, you are against us. And we the people copy that behavior. On to our friends, families and whoever else and let it destroy and divide long lasting friendships and relationships."

see, the thing is....

The Media, with very few and only independent exceptions, waged an all out coordinated battle, in conjunction with all major tech platforms, to disparage Trump and his supporters and label them as literal NAZIS.

Any person who does not see a problem with that or take it as a warning sign that Trump is a threat to their hegemony, must literally be ignorant beyond help, or complicit in the deception.

Lets imagine that this Anti-Trump sentiment and rhetoric is equivalent to a Zombie virus infection. Once you get it, you rarely if ever can be converted back to a logical, compassionate human being. You either are or are not able to reason and observe reality. If you are able, there is no way you could misinterpret recent events. If you are not able, you are a danger. You are literally a threat to my life, because following the "other side"'s train of thought leads to only one result - which it eliminating any and all resistance.

You do not "have rational discourse" with zombies. Any attempt is a risk of infection to others who are not able to defend themselves.


I repeat - anyone who supports the MSM narratives is either stupid or a liar and nothing you say as an individual can change that.

Severe shame or consequences.... pain... are the only things that make self centered individuals pay attention or consider their choices.

If, no matter what they say or do, they know you will just want to "talk about it"... they will rob, rape, and kill you and call themselves a hero.


Change my mind.

Life is a garden.

There are life sustaining plants and there are invasive weeds. The weeds are not only minimal in nutrients, but can be potentially fatal. They need less to survive and will thrive even in the harshest of environments.

The farmer did not plant the weeds. They made their way into the garden on their own. No matter how long they grow alongside the fruit, they can never become as the fruit. But, if the farmer does not remove them, their roots will choke out those of the life giving plants, and erode the soil of its' richness.

The result would be devastating. There would be no sustenance; only emptiness and death.

It is not hate that drives the farmer to pull the weeds from his garden, but the survival of life itself.

As much as people would like to think otherwise, the same is true of man.

EACH TO HIS OWN KIND.

People getting into other people's business should fuck off and mind their own country and its shithole politics. Yes OP, I'm talking to you. You're not an American, this doesn't concern you.

On a national or meta level I get what you're saying. Close the borders, enforce the laws, convict the criminals or countries and societies will decay, agreed. I think Mezzo is just coming from a more interpersonal level where even political enemies can find common ground and common humanity. We have to at least get started that direction or the fracture will lead to war or worse genocide.

I hear your message, but I am not sure you are framing the situation correctly.

"We live in a society where slick and loud mouthed media driven marketeers on either side of the political spectrum try to not only get everyone in their camp and sell their product, but use the most aggressive ways to ridicule the other side. If you are not with us, you are against us. And we the people copy that behavior. On to our friends, families and whoever else and let it destroy and divide long lasting friendships and relationships."

see, the thing is....

The Media, with very few and only independent exceptions, waged an all out coordinated battle, in conjunction with all major tech platforms, to disparage Trump and his supporters and label them as literal NAZIS.

Any person who does not see a problem with that or take it as a warning sign that Trump is a threat to their hegemony, must literally be ignorant beyond help, or complicit in the deception.

Lets imagine that this Anti-Trump sentiment and rhetoric is equivalent to a Zombie virus infection. Once you get it, you rarely if ever can be converted back to a logical, compassionate human being. You either are or are not able to reason and observe reality. If you are able, there is no way you could misinterpret recent events. If you are not able, you are a danger. You are literally a threat to my life, because following the "other side"'s train of thought leads to only one result - which it eliminating any and all resistance.

You do not "have rational discourse" with zombies. Any attempt is a risk of infection to others who are not able to defend themselves.


I repeat - anyone who supports the MSM narratives is either stupid or a liar and nothing you say as an individual can change that.

Severe shame or consequences.... pain... are the only things that make self centered individuals pay attention or consider their choices.

If, no matter what they say or do, they know you will just want to "talk about it"... they will rob, rape, and kill you and call themselves a hero.


Change my mind.

You think that opposition to people who support satanic pedophiles is disrespectful?

Fuck off.

My dear friends, I hope everyone is doing well.

I have been absent for a while, till after the inauguration, for reasons I mentioned in earlier threads. In my opinion, the hate, division and insults on this forum have been off the charts lately and I could do without all that negative energy for a bit. I also know for a big part of my American friends the outcome of the election was not as they expected and it is a human reaction that it caused anger, sadness and frustration and people should be allowed to get that out. No problem at all.

Yet I have to get some more words off my chest regarding the current atmosphere. Read it or skip it. The choice is as always yours of course.

The thing that triggered me to write this, is the generalizing of everyone who did not vote for Trump. They are referred to as frauds, demonrats, criminals and what not. I find it quite disrespectful to put everyone who does not share the same opinion under the same umbrella. I know it is for sure in many cases not meant to be taken personally and mainly directed to those in charge, but I do hope you do know that many people we consider friends here, are a major core part of this forum, who put in a lot of effort on a daily basis to keep this community alive, but do not share the same views.

We live in a society where slick and loud mouthed media driven marketeers on either side of the political spectrum try to not only get everyone in their camp and sell their product, but use the most aggressive ways to ridicule the other side. If you are not with us, you are against us. And we the people copy that behavior. On to our friends, families and whoever else and let it destroy and divide long lasting friendships and relationships.

We have become a schoolyard bully society driven by schoolyard bully leaders. We rather doubt the loss of a loved one due to the coronavirus and demand proof or claim that provided proof is fake than to show respect and offer condolences and support. That is how far we have drifted from our core as humans among each other. Doesn’t that make you sad and angry either? It does me.

There are many who root for war, civil or global. Claim that it is the only way to restore balance and freedom. How fucked up is that? If you want to know the consequences of war, ask those completely destroyed families in war torn countries, living in refugee camps far away from home, with nothing else left than the clothes they wear. What balance and freedom? Those in power will still be in power, maybe replaced by someone else, but still in the same power structure and those who struggled before will struggle even more, with the high risk of losing loved ones added to that. So, what balance and freedom??

I am a dreamer, naive and the ultimate optimist, against the current. So be it. And no one has to agree with me either. I don’t claim to know it all. Not by far. I just hope that when the fog of frustration, anger and sadness settles, we find a moment to reflect on that and that we realize ourselves that our neighbor is not our enemy, that there should be room again for common ground or different views.

That we realize ourselves that when push comes to shove, those so called leaders will not be the ones on our doorstep to help us solve our daily struggles in life. To pay our mortgages, rent, bills or to make sure there is food on the table. We ourselves are the ones that do. Our friends and family do whenever and if they are able to.

That we realize ourselves that we are the ones who shape our future and our freedom, through our own strength, qualities, instincts and beliefs. And that we realize ourselves that succeeding in life as a person, as people and as society is not bound to politics, lifestyle or religion, but to recognizing, respecting, acknowledging and stimulating the unique qualities and talents in each other.

I know of the personal struggles of some on here, probably better than anyone. I have always tried to support and help as much as I could, without judging, without questioning someone’s belief, political view or lifestyle. And I know, looking at how many fantastic people came together through the Christmas GiveAway to unbiased help so many in need, that I am not alone in that thought.

So I will say it again, our neighbor (in the broadest sense of the word) is not our enemy. As a dreamer, naivist and ultimate positivist I can only hope that after mourning the loss many experience, we come to our senses and rely on our own instincts again, instead of blindly following those media horny megaphone marketeers of today, who claim to be our leaders and know what is best for us, as said on either side of the political spectrum. Let's shape our own future, we don't need others to do that for us. Try not to be a parrot, but believe in our own unique self and the qualities and talents of those around us, even if their view on life does not match ours. Try to find common ground or agree to disagree, but live and let live. Stick together. It is the only way to get back to a better and more humane society again, for all of us.

Just my probably way too long two cents again. Much love and wisdom to everyone!

End of Mezzo's Mezzage Broadcast

Well said!


Kumbaya is great, but not genuine, and really doesn't exist.

We've gotten to the point where the two sides can NOT co-exist.

Completely different sets of values and goals, completely different viewpoints of right and wrong, etc.

It's like trying to force a wolf and a deer to live together in harmony.

I appreciate your effort in trying to reconcile two irreconcilable sides, but it's not something that will happen...just like you would probably find it distasteful/repugnant to live in the same house as a child molester or murderer, it's the same way conservatives feel about living with Socialist/Marxist/Communist people in the USA.

Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your viewpoint), the USA will wind up splitting up in the future.

There's no way for two sides who are diametrically opposed on almost every topic to co-exist peacefully.

Wishing you the best, OP!

Words of wisdom! dear heart, thank you! And thank you for saying it all so very well. Some things we ALL need to read, think on, take into our very soul.

... Your words 'the final chapter'... clutches at my heart... however.. knowing you, it's not a complete ending, but a prelude into the beginning of another wonderful adventure.

I do hope you are enjoying the beginning days of your retirement, my precious friend. You'll have the soup cans in alphabetical order in no time flat.

:energy:

Words of wisdom! dear heart, thank you! And thank you for saying it all so very well. Some things we ALL need to read, think on, take into our very soul.

... Your words 'the final chapter'... clutches at my heart... however.. knowing you, it's not a complete ending, but a prelude into the beginning of another wonderful adventure.

I do hope you are enjoying the beginning days of your retirement, my precious friend. You'll have the soup cans in alphabetical order in no time flat.

:energy:

On a national or meta level I get what you're saying. Close the borders, enforce the laws, convict the criminals or countries and societies will decay, agreed. I think Mezzo is just coming from a more interpersonal level where even political enemies can find common ground and common humanity. We have to at least get started that direction or the fracture will lead to war or worse genocide.

We used to be able to agree to disagree. We cant do that anymore. The country is too divided. A communist puppet has been installed after a provably stolen election. The communists are now letting it be known that they plan on "cleansing" of certain political parties. They are using that exact language. Also stating that children of anyone from a particular political party should be removed from them and sent to reeducation camps. Again, exact language. They intend an ethnic cleansing of white people and Christians. They openly state such. We cannot "get along" with people that openly state their intentions of exterminating us.

People getting into other people's business should fuck off and mind their own country and its shithole politics. Yes OP, I'm talking to you. You're not an American, this doesn't concern you.

You said the obvious word yourself...ENEMIES.

Democracy can never grow quietly within a Republic. Its' very nature is mob rule. It is a weed.

A Republic can never thrive under a socialist government. It is the lazy farmer that plucks the fruit and never roots out the weeds. In the end, both will die off and become dust in the wind.

Democracy cannot thrive in a Republic. It will always be denied the entirety of the garden and begin to eat itself in order to survive.

Communism destroys both weed and fruit. It is the greedy farmer that kills the weeds but never nurtures the soil the fruit grows in. It only takes and demands more from less.

There is no 'common ground' that can sustain them all. Every one will always fight to be the owner of the garden.

As honorable as ones intentions may be, it always ends in death for someone, war or not.

This is in fact a particularly disturbing part of what we have all just witnessed and I am perplexed over how a party who claim to now want unity can vote in to the highest level of the congress, speaker if I am correct, that holds that communist regime style of language and solution.

My dear friends, I hope everyone is doing well.

I have been absent for a while, till after the inauguration, for reasons I mentioned in earlier threads. In my opinion, the hate, division and insults on this forum have been off the charts lately and I could do without all that negative energy for a bit. I also know for a big part of my American friends the outcome of the election was not as they expected and it is a human reaction that it caused anger, sadness and frustration and people should be allowed to get that out. No problem at all.

Yet I have to get some more words off my chest regarding the current atmosphere. Read it or skip it. The choice is as always yours of course.

The thing that triggered me to write this, is the generalizing of everyone who did not vote for Trump. They are referred to as frauds, demonrats, criminals and what not. I find it quite disrespectful to put everyone who does not share the same opinion under the same umbrella. I know it is for sure in many cases not meant to be taken personally and mainly directed to those in charge, but I do hope you do know that many people we consider friends here, are a major core part of this forum, who put in a lot of effort on a daily basis to keep this community alive, but do not share the same views.

We live in a society where slick and loud mouthed media driven marketeers on either side of the political spectrum try to not only get everyone in their camp and sell their product, but use the most aggressive ways to ridicule the other side. If you are not with us, you are against us. And we the people copy that behavior. On to our friends, families and whoever else and let it destroy and divide long lasting friendships and relationships.

We have become a schoolyard bully society driven by schoolyard bully leaders. We rather doubt the loss of a loved one due to the coronavirus and demand proof or claim that provided proof is fake than to show respect and offer condolences and support. That is how far we have drifted from our core as humans among each other. Doesn’t that make you sad and angry either? It does me.

There are many who root for war, civil or global. Claim that it is the only way to restore balance and freedom. How fucked up is that? If you want to know the consequences of war, ask those completely destroyed families in war torn countries, living in refugee camps far away from home, with nothing else left than the clothes they wear. What balance and freedom? Those in power will still be in power, maybe replaced by someone else, but still in the same power structure and those who struggled before will struggle even more, with the high risk of losing loved ones added to that. So, what balance and freedom??

I am a dreamer, naive and the ultimate optimist, against the current. So be it. And no one has to agree with me either. I don’t claim to know it all. Not by far. I just hope that when the fog of frustration, anger and sadness settles, we find a moment to reflect on that and that we realize ourselves that our neighbor is not our enemy, that there should be room again for common ground or different views.

That we realize ourselves that when push comes to shove, those so called leaders will not be the ones on our doorstep to help us solve our daily struggles in life. To pay our mortgages, rent, bills or to make sure there is food on the table. We ourselves are the ones that do. Our friends and family do whenever and if they are able to.

That we realize ourselves that we are the ones who shape our future and our freedom, through our own strength, qualities, instincts and beliefs. And that we realize ourselves that succeeding in life as a person, as people and as society is not bound to politics, lifestyle or religion, but to recognizing, respecting, acknowledging and stimulating the unique qualities and talents in each other.

I know of the personal struggles of some on here, probably better than anyone. I have always tried to support and help as much as I could, without judging, without questioning someone’s belief, political view or lifestyle. And I know, looking at how many fantastic people came together through the Christmas GiveAway to unbiased help so many in need, that I am not alone in that thought.

So I will say it again, our neighbor (in the broadest sense of the word) is not our enemy. As a dreamer, naivist and ultimate positivist I can only hope that after mourning the loss many experience, we come to our senses and rely on our own instincts again, instead of blindly following those media horny megaphone marketeers of today, who claim to be our leaders and know what is best for us, as said on either side of the political spectrum. Let's shape our own future, we don't need others to do that for us. Try not to be a parrot, but believe in our own unique self and the qualities and talents of those around us, even if their view on life does not match ours. Try to find common ground or agree to disagree, but live and let live. Stick together. It is the only way to get back to a better and more humane society again, for all of us.

Just my probably way too long two cents again. Much love and wisdom to everyone!

End of Mezzo's Mezzage Broadcast

My dear friends, I hope everyone is doing well.

I have been absent for a while, till after the inauguration, for reasons I mentioned in earlier threads. In my opinion, the hate, division and insults on this forum have been off the charts lately and I could do without all that negative energy for a bit. I also know for a big part of my American friends the outcome of the election was not as they expected and it is a human reaction that it caused anger, sadness and frustration and people should be allowed to get that out. No problem at all.

Yet I have to get some more words off my chest regarding the current atmosphere. Read it or skip it. The choice is as always yours of course.

The thing that triggered me to write this, is the generalizing of everyone who did not vote for Trump. They are referred to as frauds, demonrats, criminals and what not. I find it quite disrespectful to put everyone who does not share the same opinion under the same umbrella. I know it is for sure in many cases not meant to be taken personally and mainly directed to those in charge, but I do hope you do know that many people we consider friends here, are a major core part of this forum, who put in a lot of effort on a daily basis to keep this community alive, but do not share the same views.

We live in a society where slick and loud mouthed media driven marketeers on either side of the political spectrum try to not only get everyone in their camp and sell their product, but use the most aggressive ways to ridicule the other side. If you are not with us, you are against us. And we the people copy that behavior. On to our friends, families and whoever else and let it destroy and divide long lasting friendships and relationships.

We have become a schoolyard bully society driven by schoolyard bully leaders. We rather doubt the loss of a loved one due to the coronavirus and demand proof or claim that provided proof is fake than to show respect and offer condolences and support. That is how far we have drifted from our core as humans among each other. Doesn’t that make you sad and angry either? It does me.

There are many who root for war, civil or global. Claim that it is the only way to restore balance and freedom. How fucked up is that? If you want to know the consequences of war, ask those completely destroyed families in war torn countries, living in refugee camps far away from home, with nothing else left than the clothes they wear. What balance and freedom? Those in power will still be in power, maybe replaced by someone else, but still in the same power structure and those who struggled before will struggle even more, with the high risk of losing loved ones added to that. So, what balance and freedom??

I am a dreamer, naive and the ultimate optimist, against the current. So be it. And no one has to agree with me either. I don’t claim to know it all. Not by far. I just hope that when the fog of frustration, anger and sadness settles, we find a moment to reflect on that and that we realize ourselves that our neighbor is not our enemy, that there should be room again for common ground or different views.

That we realize ourselves that when push comes to shove, those so called leaders will not be the ones on our doorstep to help us solve our daily struggles in life. To pay our mortgages, rent, bills or to make sure there is food on the table. We ourselves are the ones that do. Our friends and family do whenever and if they are able to.

That we realize ourselves that we are the ones who shape our future and our freedom, through our own strength, qualities, instincts and beliefs. And that we realize ourselves that succeeding in life as a person, as people and as society is not bound to politics, lifestyle or religion, but to recognizing, respecting, acknowledging and stimulating the unique qualities and talents in each other.

I know of the personal struggles of some on here, probably better than anyone. I have always tried to support and help as much as I could, without judging, without questioning someone’s belief, political view or lifestyle. And I know, looking at how many fantastic people came together through the Christmas GiveAway to unbiased help so many in need, that I am not alone in that thought.

So I will say it again, our neighbor (in the broadest sense of the word) is not our enemy. As a dreamer, naivist and ultimate positivist I can only hope that after mourning the loss many experience, we come to our senses and rely on our own instincts again, instead of blindly following those media horny megaphone marketeers of today, who claim to be our leaders and know what is best for us, as said on either side of the political spectrum. Let's shape our own future, we don't need others to do that for us. Try not to be a parrot, but believe in our own unique self and the qualities and talents of those around us, even if their view on life does not match ours. Try to find common ground or agree to disagree, but live and let live. Stick together. It is the only way to get back to a better and more humane society again, for all of us.

Just my probably way too long two cents again. Much love and wisdom to everyone!

End of Mezzo's Mezzage Broadcast

Mezzo,
I know you don't know me from Adam and I do not know you. But I do know we are on the same team. The Human race team, your rants have all been read over the course of a given day when they drip and they usually make me smile with optimism. We all need to bring back this rather childish pastime of Naivete once in a awhile and as long as we are not trying to kill ourselves I am sure many of the worlds problems can be solved. Therein lies the rub. I too see more wanting to war on others as a solution than the other way around. It is only those who hacve not lost all in battle that tend to feel that way. Yep that there was an opinion. I cannot back it up with facts. It is my opinion though and and that's ok.

Sir. you have my respect and I hope we can all find that inner child who wants peace and love to win always.

Thank you for your post.

Words of wisdom! dear heart, thank you! And thank you for saying it all so very well. Some things we ALL need to read, think on, take into our very soul.

... Your words 'the final chapter'... clutches at my heart... however.. knowing you, it's not a complete ending, but a prelude into the beginning of another wonderful adventure.

I do hope you are enjoying the beginning days of your retirement, my precious friend. You'll have the soup cans in alphabetical order in no time flat.

:energy:

You know, I am glad that we are able to at least have some kind of decent discussion about it in this thread. I also understand the anger and frustration and vigilant stand of most of the posters with a counter opinion. There is always room for that in my threads.

As long as we can discuss in an adult and civil way we at least have achieved something. And that is all I want, to be thought provoking without the name calling and insults.

I agree with the spirit of the OP, but when things reach a crisis point, evil and tyranny must be resisted.

The CCP is a greater evil than Nazi Germany and their influence is growing rapidly.

In order to continue to enjoy that ideal that you are a sovereign being, in charge of your own life, entities like Communist China must be stopped, because eventually, they will take away the sovereignty of you and everyone else.

Well stated intermezzo and a much needed reality check & perspective.

While I cannot personally fully get to the place that you are coming from at this moment, I hope that one day I will be able to.

I have no enmity toward my neighbors locally or globally, but the media beast you describe has caused a MASSIVE campaign here in the USA of labeling anyone who embraces traditional American values as a "white supremacist" ( even people who arent caucasian!! For real!!)

There is a generation now that literally HATES the generations that preceded them because theyve been convinced by the media that we are evil.

When we see children we always hope that THIS will be the generation to make a better world, and as young people we think that WE ARE that generation.

Some of the societal paradigm shifts occuring at present are necessary & sensible. Some are literally insane and inimical to a free society.

Anyway, thanks for the post. Hope to hear from you again sometime.

Is this a joke....Okay, we should just love the bank robbers to death and let them keep the money ...right?

No, this fraud,stolen election will not stand,and you apparently do not know much about who the Biden Crime family are...

The whole passive thing is why the DC call girl , and the moronic Grifter, were emboldened...

Watch for the ending to this story. Its not going to end well for the cockroaches.

80 Million Americans have had enough.