Major fire in London tower block - ongoing updates -

On TV interview today, Philip Hammond, The Chancellor of the Exchequer said the public will be informed as each piece of information to the inquiry is released and not at the end.

Question for those in the UK and who are following the news related to this tragedy: why are they not disclosing the information about the number of people living in Grenfell Tower? And in general, are the UK media trying to inform the public or are they silent? Thanks.

Grenfell Tower fire: Cladding used on London block is ILLEGAL in UK, Philip Hammond says

[link to www.express.co.uk]

Heads is gonna roll..

just saw that

Again I quote:
To the person who said it was lies about Residents being on the board of KCTMO:

The KCTMO Board is made up of 15 Members comprising of eight residents, four Council appointed members and three independent members.
[link to www.kctmo.org.uk]



More about Emma Dent Coad the newly elected MP.

She is a member of the London Fire and Emergency Planning Authority.


She is an opposition member of Kensington and Chelsea London Borough Council, which owns Grenfell Tower, and was formerly a council-appointed board member of KCTMO, which manages the council's housing stock.
In 2013/4 she was a member of the council's Housing and Property Scrutiny Committee.
She has written or contributed to a number of books on architecture and design, including on Javier Mariscal, and has worked on magazines including Building Design.

She is being very vocal about the present situation but very quiet about her past.
Even all her knowledge and connections maybe could have averted this tragedy.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] London Fire and Emergency Planning Authority.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Emma Dent




Lost the link but I think you will find that the new Labour MP Emma Dent was involved in the tendering and refusing the bid from the preferred contractor when she was a member of the council's Housing and Property Scrutiny Committee.

Other social are usually bought by a charity so they can house people in emergency cases and not have to wait or rely on councils or social services. Where I live we have a charity for women in need who flee their homes from abusive husbands, this charity owns houses around the country. That's just an example of what the other social could be.

I know the scheme I've looked into it myself, you need to field at least 5% of a deposit, the government fields 25% you yourself need to be eligible for a mortgage to cover the remaining 70%.

Also consider reading up more on the specifics to the independent schemes with the councils within the UK.

But once again it means purely shit, not all of the flats were privately owned so again please.

I honestly don't doubt it, I'm not disputing that the housing is available for purchase or that some of the flats were actually owned by tenants and so forth, especially in the share stake property market you just touched on.

The scheme AC mentioned is also one where the council or housing associations still maintain part ownership of the property itself, that's how they can give such a discount, all it means is that you're liable for repairs and upkeep without any mainstream perks you'd normally have owning a property outright.

I've been on all spectrums of the housing market bar owning my own home, my housing association runs the scheme simular to the one above too, so I read up on the finer details.

The bit I was disputing is relevance when not everyone is privy to that option and the fact that only some properties were actually privately owned.

Because they don't have an accurate record, the media I will say haven't been too bad sky news more so than others have asked the same questions that residents and locals have they've not tried to silence people who were live.

The BBC however have tried but were put back in their place by those speaking at the time and were also corrected on many occasions live on TV.

The next week is going to be interesting as brexit negotiations begin on Monday the queens speech also will be fun to see as the DUP-TORIES LOVE fest begins Wednesday.

Further down the link it lists housing occupancy per flat.

40 x 1 person = 40
22 x 2 people = 44
23 x 3 people = 69
20 x 4 people = 80
4 x 5 people = 20
1 x 6 people = 6

That adds up 259 people living there in 2011 according to the census and I can estimate that there will be many more people crammed in like cattle at present date.

I'm still confused. Does anyone remember the initial reports that the person who's fridge had exploded was a 'White Briton' the Mail, I think it was, was very specific. The person who said that was the next door neighbour who has since been quoted as saying it was the Ethiopean man. The story was the same, he had his bags packed etc. I just find it strange; does anyone think it was initially said to try and whip up racial unrest in the area?

Interesting.

MoS

Yeah I mentioned that earlier in the thread. (Got lost because it's such a long thread.) I copied the original version, then they totally changed it. And you're dead right about inciting racial tension. Why did this black girl say the man was white, when he was a very dark African man? Why did they try to slag him off saying he packed his clothes before warning anyone, when it was said he was white, then made him out to be a hero, no mention of him packing clothes, when it came out that he was black? Deliberately trying to demonise whites.

This story caught my attention today:

[link to www.standaard.be] [in Dutch]

"15 toddlers still missing following fire at Grenfell tower"

The report says that there was a nursery on the ground floor and that 15 children aged 6 months-3 years have not been found.

Why would there have been children in the nursery seeing as it was nighttime when the fire started? Has anyone heard more about this?

They quote the source as the Daily Mirror and the Star. I googled it. Nothing. Pure fake news. Disgusting.

The company that manufactured and provided the cladding hve deleted their webpage ..... out of respect for victims.


Just been on SKY news.

Not sure if this has already been mentioned on this thread but back in 2014, Grenfell Tower was up for demolition by the Council.

Here's the link showing the Order:

[link to www.rbkc.gov.uk (secure)]

Suffice to say that if this building had been due to be demolished then it would have been cleared of occupants.

EMPTY!

its in the Sun. they weren't saying the children were in the nursery at night, they said 15 were missing in the building who usually attend the nursery.

Could you provide a link? I looked in all three and can't find anything.

They decided against demolition and instead gave the tower a facelift with flammable cladding

Indeed, after they'd moved the former occupants out.

New missing/death toll to be announced tomorrow - Sky News

Yeah doesn't sound to optimistic you'd think if it was a low number within say 10-20 they would have disclosed it today.

black magic ritual for allah...
made by black magicians...

Burned to ashes: Aftermath of Grenfell Tower blaze from inside

London Metropolitan Police have on Sunday released footage from inside Grenfell Tower. According to the official Met Police website the video was filmed by a specialist police recovery team.


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Thread: "Major incident" in London; van drove into crowd near mosque in Finsbury Park

This latest event puts the tower block fire in a whole new light IMO.

Odds are it's part of an orchestrated campaign against muslims.

that is an odd way to look at things

The fire was accidental. No stranger could have approached the tower without several residents learning right away what he thought he was doing on their turf.

There's no orchestrated campaign against Muslims. Quite the contrary, the Muslims have planned and carried out many, many terrorists acts in England, France, Germany and America.

How many trucks driven by Muslims steamrollered dozens of non-believers? 82 women, and children, in Nice,France alone.
How many women were repeatedly stabbed by Muslims just last week, by three Muslims in a truck that first ran down many non-believers on London Bridge?

The media says we have to adjust to the killings by Muslims, the way we adjust to deaths in car wrecks, falls and eating spoiled food.

We have to adjust, we have to submit.

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This could be against the UK gov this. Someone like Soros maybe piling this pressure on them and the British people. I think a lot more people may die now.