Major fire in London tower block - ongoing updates - | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75126824 United Kingdom 06/23/2017 07:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There have been a lot of fires in the past couple of weeks. The portugal fire is under investigation for suspicion. Utah there was a huge fire. There was a fire yesterday at Picadilly Circus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75126824 Pokémon Go is running a FIRE and Ice event Any info on when they started this event ??? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75106686 United Kingdom 06/23/2017 07:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christ ! what a fucking joke - Kensington Council have records of everyone living there. The Hydrogen Cyanide story is probably another fake story to set a no go zone and prevent people from returning. Some of the ground flats were not burnt out and people might want to see if they have anything worth salvaging. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75120236 Something sinister was going on here, I heard a story that there were 15 children were found in a nursery. The fire was at 1 am so why would 15 children be in a nursery at that time in the morning ?? This building was probably known as a terrorist hotbed that traffic children. Someone high up knew something about what was going on and we will never get to the truth. NEVER. There will be a devastating attack in the UK soon that will bury everything to do with this story. I heard on the news that residents of the surrounding houses beneath the tower HAD been told to go back to their houses - doesn't seem in keeping with the area being a no-go zone... |
curry nosher
(OP) User ID: 75128885 Nepal 06/23/2017 07:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Theresa May confirms cladding forms part of criminal investigation. Hence won't say whether cladding was compliant with building regulations Quoting: bluebonnet [link to twitter.com (secure)] Yeah strange that wording. They have definately said it is a crime scene yet i dont see why if the building materials were passed?? What crime was committed? Fwiw i still think their could be an arson element to this and are keeping quiet on it atm. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75126824 United Kingdom 06/23/2017 07:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Theresa May confirms cladding forms part of criminal investigation. Hence won't say whether cladding was compliant with building regulations Quoting: bluebonnet [link to twitter.com (secure)] Yeah strange that wording. They have definately said it is a crime scene yet i dont see why if the building materials were passed?? What crime was committed? Fwiw i still think their could be an arson element to this and are keeping quiet on it atm. Yes curry, they dare not say it was arson for fear of it spiralling out of control. |
curry nosher
(OP) User ID: 75128885 Nepal 06/23/2017 07:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.rt.com (secure)] Quoting: Anderson_G Police considering manslaughter charges in Grenfell Tower fire investigation (VIDEO) “This is one of the largest and most complex investigations the Metropolitan Police has ever undertaken. There are apparently over 250 specialist investigators working on all aspects of this investigation. It will establish how the fire started and the speed and spread that it took hold of that building. “We are investigating with experts the aluminium cladding and the insulation behind the cladding. How the tiles were fixed to the building and how it was installed. Preliminary tests on the insulation samples collected from Grenfell Tower show they combusted soon after the test started, The initial tests on the cladding tile also failed the safety tests.” McCormack said the fridge freezer, a Hotpoint FF175BP model, had not been subject to any product recall. I feel that this fridge is a red herring all be it innocently maybe (or not) but it must be hampering the investigation as the media jumped the gun on one mans word. It may of started in his place but i am just stuck on this fridge being the cause of all that... just my opinion though |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75106686 United Kingdom 06/23/2017 07:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There have been a lot of fires in the past couple of weeks. The portugal fire is under investigation for suspicion. Utah there was a huge fire. There was a fire yesterday at Picadilly Circus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75126824 Pokémon Go is running a FIRE and Ice event Wow that is interesting Freezer starting a fire !!! Shiiit that is interesting I hadn't even thought about that. It started in the UK on June 13th which was come to think of it the day before the fire. It finished on the summer solstice [link to www.usgamer.net] |
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User ID: 43285854 Germany 06/23/2017 07:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel that this fridge is a red herring all be it innocently maybe (or not) but it must be hampering the investigation as the media jumped the gun on one mans word. Quoting: curry nosher It may of started in his place but i am just stuck on this fridge being the cause of all that... just my opinion though As a firefighter I can assure you shit goes up in flames constantly for various reasons. When the windows break due to the heat inside the apartment, flames can easily jump over to the front. Like so: "The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title." Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. The woman who is not pursued sets up the doctrine that pursuit is offensive to her sex, and wants to make it a felony. No genuinely attractive woman has any such desire. - H.L. Mencken, In Defense Of Women |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75126824 United Kingdom 06/23/2017 08:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel that this fridge is a red herring all be it innocently maybe (or not) but it must be hampering the investigation as the media jumped the gun on one mans word. Quoting: curry nosher It may of started in his place but i am just stuck on this fridge being the cause of all that... just my opinion though As a firefighter I can assure you shit goes up in flames constantly for various reasons. When the windows break due to the heat inside the apartment, flames can easily jump over to the front. Like so: They would have obviously had safety windows on tower blocks, I am assuming most of the windows would have been slightly open because it was a very warm night. This would have played a part as curtains would have caught alight very quickly and there would have been drafts pulling the fire and strengthing it. I am not a fire fighter but it was on my mind the night it happened. You do an amazing job and kudos to you. If I was PM there would no problem for financing and supporting all emergency services to the point where they are actually ahead by years financially and staff wise. Keep safe and again kudos to you and thank you for what you do. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45699534 United Kingdom 06/23/2017 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.rt.com (secure)] Quoting: Anderson_G Police considering manslaughter charges in Grenfell Tower fire investigation (VIDEO) “This is one of the largest and most complex investigations the Metropolitan Police has ever undertaken. There are apparently over 250 specialist investigators working on all aspects of this investigation. It will establish how the fire started and the speed and spread that it took hold of that building. “We are investigating with experts the aluminium cladding and the insulation behind the cladding. How the tiles were fixed to the building and how it was installed. Preliminary tests on the insulation samples collected from Grenfell Tower show they combusted soon after the test started, The initial tests on the cladding tile also failed the safety tests.” McCormack said the fridge freezer, a Hotpoint FF175BP model, had not been subject to any product recall. I feel that this fridge is a red herring all be it innocently maybe (or not) but it must be hampering the investigation as the media jumped the gun on one mans word. It may of started in his place but i am just stuck on this fridge being the cause of all that... just my opinion though Its hard to clarify for certain, I used to build automated Handwashers for a company called Wallgate LTD and its so easy to wire something wrong and for that to cause a malfunction or for a improper fitted part to ware out quicker than usual. It could also be case of the wiring in the property shorting or arcing and causing a reaction, there are so many variables that could have caused this fire. It's likely to be human error but it's also one of those things that could happen by chance. Unfortunately it's resulted in this. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45699534 United Kingdom 06/23/2017 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel that this fridge is a red herring all be it innocently maybe (or not) but it must be hampering the investigation as the media jumped the gun on one mans word. Quoting: curry nosher It may of started in his place but i am just stuck on this fridge being the cause of all that... just my opinion though As a firefighter I can assure you shit goes up in flames constantly for various reasons. When the windows break due to the heat inside the apartment, flames can easily jump over to the front. Like so: As with a vacumme forming when a door goes or with the draw up between the cladding and walls it literally sucks the heat up the cavities causing the materials to combust, and obviously a fire needs 3 things oxygen heat and fuel, it doesn't take much. |
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bluebonnet
User ID: 63307004 United States 06/25/2017 05:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.itv.com] bluebonnet |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15366073 United Kingdom 06/25/2017 06:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At least 34 blocks at fire risk as it emerges every sample so far has failed safety checks Quoting: bluebonnet [link to www.itv.com] So where will the thousands of people that are evacuated go? |
MySoul
User ID: 75139395 United Kingdom 06/25/2017 07:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At least 34 blocks at fire risk as it emerges every sample so far has failed safety checks Quoting: bluebonnet [link to www.itv.com] So where will the thousands of people that are evacuated go? Glastonbury Festival with their hero JC. Loads of posh tents there - some with butler service. What choice do I have but to be myself? Everyone else was already taken. Develop a nostalgia for the future - Maxwell Maltz MySoul |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50628959 Belgium 06/25/2017 07:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75126824 Shiiit that is interesting I hadn't even thought about that. It started in the UK on June 13th which was come to think of it the day before the fire. It finished on the summer solstice [link to www.usgamer.net] Hmm, very interesting... |
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