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Major fire in London tower block - ongoing updates -

 
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The "organiser" of the Grenfell Tower protest, Mr al-Mansur used to be spokesman for [Abu Hamza's] Finsbury Park Mosque, he was arrested ten years ago on suspicion of terrorism offences. And Corbyn supporters are backing him, that's all you need to know.
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As I said it's now the perfect time and opportunity for Islamic and Republican terror to occur even in the way of fermenting and furthering recruitment.

But it's not to be confused with those who have actually suffered because of the fire, it's quite a diverse community
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GRENFELL SURVIVOR ‘ONLY PASSED 8 PEOPLE ON STAIRS ALL THE WAY FROM UPPER FLOOR’


The SKWAWKBOX had a long and traumatic conversation this evening with a businesswoman based near Grenfell Tower who has friends and employees affected by the terrible fire and has been working to provide support and shelter to them and others.

The woman, who wanted her information to be told but asked not to be identified, told this blog about families who survived and those that didn’t, about the contribution of police and council staff or the lack of it – and about fears that the real death toll could be even higher than the 150-200 that music stars Lily Allen and Saskilla told reporters about.

Her own words, unadorned apart from the removal of names and floor numbers, follow:



There are two children that we know really well who were in the block. One family got out, the father was able to shield their little girl and thank God she’s fairly oblivious to everything that happened. But the other is in hospital, critically ill from smoke inhalation.

Another went missing and was separated from her mum. We heard from mum and found her utterly distraught. She spent the day looking for her daughter and finally found her. Their dog and their neighbour’s dog are missing – we’ve got the kids looking for the dogs, putting up posters so they’ve got something to do and don’t feel so helpless.

The scale of the loss is far bigger than anyone is admitting. One of my employees has 15 friends missing and believed dead. Another has two friends missing.

One of the little girls that got out with her family, she has 7 friends missing, all from [near the top of the block]. Her mum believes they’re the only survivors. At least two of her other friends have already been confirmed dead – one just 13 years old and the other fourteen.

My friend has a son in the same class as those girls. She went back to the block to find one little girl who’s in the hospital now. She’s been collating names of missing people and she’s already up to around two hundred.

200 is the figure everyone is saying locally, but it might be much worse....


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The Greater Fool‏ @poeliticaljazz


Grenfell tower was home to this over 500 people.

30 people confirmed dead and
76 confirmed alive.

How are over 394 people unaccounted for?
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06/17/2017 11:52 AM
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Nazim ali‏ @nazimhali

400-600 people in Grenfell T. Sky news say 70 dead , 30 in hospital. So where are the 300-500 survivors if true?
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i still think that this was a ritual...
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Yeah but for what? What was the meaning of this day?
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for allah...
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06/17/2017 12:10 PM
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Strange isn't it

In a terror attack the number of dead can be stated without their identities confirmed

In an incident where government are seen to be directly responsible, the number of dead cannot be stated without their identities confirmed
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06/17/2017 12:20 PM
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I see that Lily Allen is protesting.

Does anyone know if she has homed any of the displaced families as she offered?
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I see that Lily Allen is protesting.

Does anyone know if she has homed any of the displaced families as she offered?
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ofcourse not. They only offered some supplies.
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Is it possible some people didn't leave the building, not realising how serious it was and because they thought they'd be asked for identity info by the emergency services/police etc?
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May admits support 'was not good enough'

Prime minister Theresa May has issued a statement admitting that “support on the ground for families who needed help or basic information in the initial hours after this appalling disaster was not good enough”.
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To the person who said it was lies about Residents being on the board of KCTMO:

The KCTMO Board is made up of 15 Members comprising of eight residents, four Council appointed members and three independent members.
[link to www.kctmo.org.uk]



More about Emma Dent Coad the newly elected MP.

She is a member of the London Fire and Emergency Planning Authority.


She is an opposition member of Kensington and Chelsea London Borough Council, which owns Grenfell Tower, and was formerly a council-appointed board member of KCTMO, which manages the council's housing stock.
In 2013/4 she was a member of the council's Housing and Property Scrutiny Committee.
She has written or contributed to a number of books on architecture and design, including on Javier Mariscal, and has worked on magazines including Building Design.

She is being very vocal about the present situation but very quiet about her past.
Even all her knowledge and connections maybe could have averted this tragedy.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] London Fire and Emergency Planning Authority.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Emma Dent
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[link to travelwirenews.com]
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06/17/2017 01:18 PM
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There are many fires like this recorded in past years of cladded tall buildings

Obviously do to the nature of the forum people are gonna call ritual just saying these things happen a lot, all over the world (where safety regulations are shit especially)

The other buildings where it happened had sprinklers for one

Call it ritual but i would like to see what you base your assumption on.

The flammable insulation used behind the flammable panels used is rated ok for UK standards.

There are countries where even the fire retardant version would be off limits and only non-combustable materials would have been allowed to use
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Specially-trained dogs are assisting in the slow and painstaking search process because they are lighter than humans and can cover areas more challenging to access – such as the horrendously damaged upper floors of the 24-storey tower block.

[link to metro.co.uk]
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There are many fires like this recorded in past years of cladded tall buildings

Obviously do to the nature of the forum people are gonna call ritual just saying these things happen a lot, all over the world (where safety regulations are shit especially)

The other buildings where it happened had sprinklers for one

Call it ritual but i would like to see what you base your assumption on.

The flammable insulation used behind the flammable panels used is rated ok for UK standards.

There are countries where even the fire retardant version would be off limits and only non-combustable materials would have been allowed to use
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Its crap. Thats why the fire was spreading so fast. That insulation is forbidden in Europe fot that exact reason.
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06/17/2017 01:27 PM
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LOL if you believe this story, you'll believe anything!

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Specially-trained dogs are assisting in the slow and painstaking search process because they are lighter than humans and can cover areas more challenging to access – such as the horrendously damaged upper floors of the 24-storey tower block.

[link to metro.co.uk]
 Quoting: MySoul


The dog in that second picture looks like it has already been in the building looks like it is expressing grief and anguish. :(
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The Greater Fool‏ @poeliticaljazz


Grenfell tower was home to this over 500 people.

30 people confirmed dead and
76 confirmed alive.

How are over 394 people unaccounted for?

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Real people, or names on the voting register?
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The guy who's fridge started the fire speaks ...

sry cant embed it.

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The guy who's fridge started the fire speaks ...

sry cant embed it.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Lovely picture of him somewhere out in the tropics.
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The Greater Fool‏ @poeliticaljazz


Grenfell tower was home to this over 500 people.

30 people confirmed dead and
76 confirmed alive.

How are over 394 people unaccounted for?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74651032


Real people, or names on the voting register?
 Quoting: Tess.


That was 1 block, got to be 100000+ more in London alone.

400 Jhiad on lose? More like 4000!
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Strange isn't it

In a terror attack the number of dead can be stated without their identities confirmed

In an incident where government are seen to be directly responsible, the number of dead cannot be stated without their identities confirmed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74651032


Not really no.

Its easy to count a few bodies with knife or gun shot wounds or those who have been run over.

A bit harder when a building with hundreds of people is burned to the ground - and there is no official record of how many live there - given the bodies are essentially created.
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Strange isn't it

In a terror attack the number of dead can be stated without their identities confirmed

In an incident where government are seen to be directly responsible, the number of dead cannot be stated without their identities confirmed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74651032


Not really no.

Its easy to count a few bodies with knife or gun shot wounds or those who have been run over.

A bit harder when a building with hundreds of people is burned to the ground - and there is no official record of how many live there - given the bodies are essentially created.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69772508


Sure the censors register would know, well unless of course 100's or more was living there Illegally..
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Strange isn't it

In a terror attack the number of dead can be stated without their identities confirmed

In an incident where government are seen to be directly responsible, the number of dead cannot be stated without their identities confirmed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74651032


Not really no.

Its easy to count a few bodies with knife or gun shot wounds or those who have been run over.

A bit harder when a building with hundreds of people is burned to the ground - and there is no official record of how many live there - given the bodies are essentially created.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69772508


Sure the censors register would know, well unless of course 100's or more was living there Illegally..
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Can I just throw this one in

Phone records/gps
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siren2

Emergency and Disaster Information Service

Number of affected people / Humanities loss

Dead person(s) 30
Injured person(s) 30
Missing person(s) 538
Evacuated/rescued person(s) 65

[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]
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Now let the "missing persons" all be muzz ...
Recipe for riots
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Now let the "missing persons" all be muzz ...
Recipe for riots
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Recipe for civil "muzz" uprising,stabbing people ,jihad and other stuff Thread: Organizer of Grenfell tower protests was arrested for suspicion of terrorism offences few years ago
#Geomagnetic_Storm#

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siren2

Emergency and Disaster Information Service

Number of affected people / Humanities loss

Dead person(s) 30
Injured person(s) 30
Missing person(s) 538
Evacuated/rescued person(s) 65

[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]
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Damn....
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siren2

Emergency and Disaster Information Service

Number of affected people / Humanities loss

Dead person(s) 30
Injured person(s) 30
Missing person(s) 538
Evacuated/rescued person(s) 65

[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73746222


Damn....
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Only 65 evacuees

verysad
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Hmmm - I think it would be fair to say that the impression given by the media is that Grenfell Tower was a bit of a shabby shithole, full of immigrants on Housing benefit.

Take a look at this. It's a listing for a 2 bed flat in the Tower, which was available from May 2017.

Pretty luxurious by anyone's standards wouldn't you say?

[link to www.rightmove.co.uk]

Rent was £395 pw and it clearly says 'No DSS / Housing Benefit Applicants' - somewhat ironic as it was an ex council/social housing block.





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