The Official "Reincarnation is Biblical" Thread

Those who do not believe the Bible as it reads will be deceived by these lies. It has nothing to do with what Base12 is saying, and everything to do with what Christ said. It is better to enter into heaven with one eye, than to have two eyes, and be cast into hellfire.

I hear you. Trust me I do.

I've meditated on what you are saying my whole life.

But you have to realize that I didn't choose to look for reincarnation in Scripture, it chose to look for me.

I was like everyone else believing that "reincarnation wasn't Biblical because that's just the way it is and don't argue".

Year after year of Bible study I would come across verses and themes that sounded like reincarnation, yet I would have to shrug them off.

Finally one day I decided to look into it and see why it's "not Biblical" as they say and discovered that the evidence against it was so flimsy that it quickly became obvious to me that there is a cover up going on.

So much suffering going on in the world.

Where is the fairness?

Here in the United States, we have it pretty good compared to everyone else. Why?

The argument that "I'll just pay it off in my next life" doesn't hold water.

One does not get to "pick and choose" their next life.

All will be judged according to their works.

But regardless of any of our opinions, the bottom line I keep showing everyone is that THIS IS HELL.

We are in it already!

So guess what? You are in Hell too. How did you get here? What did you do to deserve this?

See what I mean? The ego prevents folks from seeing the Truth.

Look...

2 Corinthians 4:4 (NLT)
"Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don't understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God"

Satan is the God of this world!

We are in Hell!

Look again...

Ephesians 2:2
"Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience"

He controls the air too? How?

Because THIS IS HELL.

Satan isn't in some far away place or dimension. He is HERE.

So again I ask... how did you end up in Hell with the rest of us?

Seriously: what could be more simple than, "...ye must be born again..."?

Wow, I think you got it figured out.

Your judged on the refinement of your soul..

Jacobs ladder.

He plays the role of every person in your life.. behind their eyes HE measures you..

The most important role is the one you walk past.. the stranger in need.. the child without a voice.. the person you can help but turn your eyes.. the one you see who needs help but they are so deformed or sick or dirty you can't see a human anymore.

Everything you face is to prepare you.. no matter how much hurt.. it leaves you with a signature when you see it again.. you actually see it before it happens.. because you were crushed to see it's components and understand it's elements.. and when you understand... You realize he gave it to you.. because... He loves you.. and in loving him and absolutely trusting him you realize.. he faced it with you.

Then you realize.. he's making God's.. HE is the GOD of God's.. you are born man.. to learn past the flesh and bone what it means to be HUman..

Hello A Friend!

Now connect that with this...

Revelation 1:7
"Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen"

The "some standing here" that Jesus was referring to may have been the ones that ended up in the crowds cheering on his death.

And because of that, the "They also which pierced him" crowd ended up paying a huge price for that mistake by having to come back.

Who knows how many times. Ouch!

Good stuff one_of_nine!

It's a choice...

1 Peter 1:23
"Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever"

In other words...

"Being born again, not of corruptible seed like you've been doing over and over, but a new way in which you don't have to come back"

In the Golden Age there is no sin for birth after birth. Sin starts in the Copper age and slowly accumulates.

Outstanding karma is settled in your last birth of the Iron Age.

You only die once (whilst alive) and that will be in your last birth of each cycle.

Emphasis mine OP. I am here for you to understand. Let me continue to help. Let it be thoroughly understood from the beginning that one man cannot convince another of either right or wrong; but if a man be convinced, it is by his own investigation of that which is placed before him; let each man convince himself, for it is his own interest that is at stake.



From this point of view the Macrocosmic Crucifixion of Christ the Messiah symbolizes the crucifixion of the creature world in Christ; and, also, that through the absolute death of Christ the Microcosmic Cross symbolizes the absolute death of the creature world in Christ. From this absolute death nothing evil can return; but, clothed with the pure, unblemishable body, the Divine Spark that gave life and existence to the creature world can, and must return from the pit with the resurrection of Him in whom they dwell, the blemished earthy being left behind forever.

Satan is in your DNA.

He is your Father. The Worm is your Sister and Mother.

Look!



Satan's Seat is the Rod of Asclepius.. aka... RNA!!!

He is the thorn in your flesh!

This is Hell and he rules over us.

Don't you guys get that? Are you really that full of yourselves?

I don't think many of you folks here realize the seriousness of the situation we are in.

And it's getting worse.

But guess what?

You want a new Father?

You have one waiting for you.

Oh and what about a new Mom?

Can I haz new Mom?

She keeps wondering why you ignore her...

Galatians 4:26
"But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all"

Look at that!

The True Divine Feminine has been there all along.

They have hidden her from you.

Reincarnation

Last Edited by Loup Garou on 05/28/2017 07:32 PM

yup.

No I do not.

At the same time, Jesus said that the only sin not forgiveable is blasphemy.

And reincarnation is just another "doctrine" IMHO.

Once you've repented & accepted Jesus as Lord and Saviour, I believe in Simple Daily Faith

Repent for your sins
Give thanks for daily blessings...regardless of how simple / "ordinary" they may seem
Love other and forgive them as necessary
Pray for others and help them if possible
Pray / ask the Father to show HIS WILL for you to do
Trust in Him fully

Too many people get side-tracked from these things and focus on various doctrines trying to prove that their denomination / set of beliefs is the correct one.

Praise be to God!

A review of Chapter iv is needed here: "But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
" To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons."

In the fulness of time here represented, it was necessary that God should come in his power and voluntarily lay down his life that we might receive the adoption of sons. He became manifest unto us, made of a woman, made under the law, but his path has been traced under the vail throughout the records of the Old Testament until he suddenly came into his temple by the records of the New Testament. It has been made manifest that he should come in the flesh as man in order to assume man's iniquity, and it has been made manifest that he should come in his power as God and man, lay down his life as God, and take it up again, that man might be redeemed and receive the adoption of sons; therefore, such being the case, how is it possible for man to be justified by his own works? It is altogether and wholly impossible. But it must be kept in mind that by his works man will show his faith. Let the works, therefore, be righteous, that the righteousness of faith may be manifest: for the Hindu who tortures his flesh for conscience' sake makes an exhibition of works; but is he justified thereby?

To those desiring to be under the law Paul says,
"Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
" For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
" But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
" Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the Mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
" For this Agar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
" But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
" For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not : for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
" Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
" But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
" Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
" So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free."

By the allegory Agar represents the city of Jerusalem, not the city built upon Hebron, but the great city Jerusalem wherein man dwelt from the first. This city, together with all her children, is in bondage to the law. The law was given in a definite form to the children of Israel from Sinai in Arabia, but it was given from the first, and from a Sinai which existed long before the flood: for it is manifest that Jerusalem before the flood was as much under the bondage of the law as Jerusalem after the flood. If the law is bondage, what gain is there in seeking to be under it? or in remaining under it? There is none: for the letter of the law killeth, and, therefore, if one be delivered from the letter of the law which killeth, no sound reason exists why he should put himself under the penalty again. The new Jerusalem, which is from above, is the mother of us all. All her children are the children of promise; and the promise is to the Seed of Abraham forever: therefore it follows that whilst the children of the bondwoman are still under the letter of the law which killeth, the children of the free woman are free from the law and have life forever.

From this it becomes evident that the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the free woman: for the one is diametrically opposed to the other, that is, Death shall not be heir with Life, that they should coexist forever; hence the bondwoman and her son shall be cast out, and Death, the last enemy, shall be destroyed, as it is written, "I will bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee." Who can limit the mercy of the Most High? for it is written, "Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband." It becomes clearer and clearer that justification was made of faith to the end that the promise might be sure to all the seed. Who are the seed?

They are "all the families of the earth." The text stated, "Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
"But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now."

According to this the children of promise form a very large class, in which is found the name of Isaac: therefore it follows that the gift of the inheritance must have been made to another than Isaac. Who was it? Paul said distinctly that Christ was the Seed of Abraham, and that the promise was made to him. Abraham was instructed to a surety that his Seed should be afflicted four hundred years, and now Paul says, "But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now." Who was the one "then born after the Spirit," and "then" persecuted? Isaac, or Christ? When Ishmael mocked Isaac, was it simple history, or was it allegory that was recorded? Jesus Christ was the Seed of Abraham, and he did suffer persecutions from those born after the flesh, and he was afflicted four hundred years: the records of which are made manifest in the Scriptures of the prophets from Moses down. If it was not the Messiah who suffered, who was it? The eunuch asked Philip, "Of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?" The same question may be asked of all the prophets: and the same question may be asked of Paul, Who was it that was then born after the Spirit, and who was then persecuted by him that was born after the flesh? Does Ishmael mocking Isaac fill out the figure and answer the question? By no means: for Isaac had just been weaned, and Ishmael himself was only a child when this took place. What does fill out the figure, then? Why, Jesus Christ suffering the persecutions which God assured Abraham should befall his Seed: Jesus Christ manifest in the flesh, unrecognized of men, yet seen of angels: Jesus Christ laboring for the redemption of men: Jesus Christ laboring for the overthrow of evil: Jesus Christ rebuilding the walls of Jerusalem: summed up in these words: "Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman."

Of course. Jesus son of Joseph said, "If you're willing to accept it, John the Baptist is Elijah reincarnated. He who has been initiated in the sacred Mysteries will understand." - Matthew 11:14-15 (Christ II)
Are you tired of hypocritical, judgmental so called "Christians" calling you "demon possessed", "Satan" and telling you that you will "burn in Hell for all of eternity" because you believe in reincarnation?
Yes, but I try to be patient and teach them that Jesus son of Joseph taught reincarnation and that science has now proven it.
Do you believe that the countless documented cases of children who remember past lives are not "possessed by devils"?
Of course. Read the book Soul Survivor - WWII pilot
Do you believe that we've been lied to as to what Hell really is?
Heaven and hell are very real - they're frames-of-mind.

I AM the 2nd Coming of the Christ. In my eternal soul's last incarnation, I was Albert Einstein. 2,000 years ago, I was Y'shua bar Yosef. The proof of these claims is the "7 Seals" revealed as 'Beyond Einstein Theories' - google that. I've unveiled secrets hidden since the founding of this world.

Donald Trump 666 (when A=49, B50...) is the current Antichrist: his actions are the opposite of the Christ. Trump (b 6.14.46) is Benito Mussolini (d 4.28.45) reincarnated.

Of course. Jesus son of Joseph said, "If you're willing to accept it, John the Baptist is Elijah reincarnated. He who has been initiated in the sacred Mysteries will understand." - Matthew 11:14-15 (Christ II)

Are you tired of hypocritical, judgmental so called "Christians" calling you "demon possessed", "Satan" and telling you that you will "burn in Hell for all of eternity" because you believe in reincarnation?
Yes, but I try to be patient and teach them that Jesus son of Joseph taught reincarnation and that science has now proven it.

Do you believe that the countless documented cases of children who remember past lives are not "possessed by devils"?
Of course. Read the book Soul Survivor - WWII pilot

Do you believe that we've been lied to as to what Hell really is?
Heaven and hell are very real - they're frames-of-mind.

I AM the 2nd Coming of the Christ. In my eternal soul's last incarnation, I was Albert Einstein. 2,000 years ago, I was Y'shua bar Yosef. The proof of these claims is the "7 Seals" revealed as 'Beyond Einstein Theories' - google that. I've unveiled secrets hidden since the founding of this world.

Donald Trump 666 (when A=49, B50...) is the current Antichrist: his actions are the opposite of the Christ. Trump (b 6.14.46) is Benito Mussolini (d 4.28.45) reincarnated.

I appreciate all of the comments.

Thanks everyone for stopping by and contributing!

Well there are a few instances that tell me souls are not reincarnated. Jesus saw Elijah and Moses well after death. They may have had special place with god as some will argue. Bit what about Samuel? Saul had him summoned well after his death. He was not reincarnated. He was pissed that Saul bugged his sleep. Why are they not living other lives if reincarnation is truth?

I believe that it wasn't actually Samuel but rather a Familiar Spirit pretending to be him.

1 Samuel 28:14
"And he said unto her, What form is he of? And she said, An old man cometh up; and he is covered with a mantle. And Saul perceived that it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground, and bowed himself"

I AM the 2nd Coming of the Christ. In my eternal soul's last incarnation, I was Albert Einstein. 2,000 years ago, I was Y'shua bar Yosef. The proof of these claims is the "7 Seals" revealed as 'Beyond Einstein Theories' - google that. I've unveiled secrets hidden since the founding of this world.

Donald Trump 666 (when A=49, B50...) is the current Antichrist: his actions are the opposite of the Christ. Trump (b 6.14.46) is Benito Mussolini (d 4.28.45) reincarnated.

I'm not going to hijack this thread Christ.

I'm humbled to see an open discussion about discernment.

In
Discernment.

The number is 615..

It's mistranslated...

Lucifer is Phosphorus.. a Roman God of Venus.. P15.. 6 (61) is strobogrammatic..

GoD is Good...

He does all things..

Let's look at this Alchemical image again...



See if you can spot some of these verses in the artwork...

Isaiah 14:15
"Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit"

Could the image be a picture of Hell?

Do you see the sides of the pit? They look like little hills with caves in them.

Next...

Isaiah 14:19
"But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet"

Do you see Lucifer, the Serpent thrust through with a Sword?

What about a carcass?

See that bottle?

That's the stage of Alchemy called "Putrefaction". Look it up.

What does a carcass do?

Next...

Revelation 20:10
"And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever"

Do you see the Lake of Fire at the bottom?

See the crowns of the Beast and False Prophet?

See the Sun and Moon? Day and Night?

See how they are tormented with Fire and Brimstone?

See the Alchemical sign for Brimstone (Sulfur)?

Next...

Acts 7:42
"Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness?"

See the Mazzaroth Zodiac above? The Host of Heaven?

Next...

Acts 7:43
"Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon"

Tabernacle of Moloch?

Tabernacle is a Temple. Your body is a Temple.

Moloch is a Sacred Cow god.

Now connect the dots...













It's all there for those with eyes to see.

Only you can take the next step to study this further.

I'm merely a Messenger.

There was heaven on earth and those impressions (memories) are etched deep in the consciousness of those who were there and those Impressions, the sense of loss and the desire to regain what has been lost, is driving everything.

Amazing

Great answer, Based12!

I T-TOTALLY AGREE!

Nobody would turn to a serious and rigorous spiritual if there was not an inner calling. An inner calling is a triggered memory from a more elevated time long past. It is a desire to return to that.

I'm coming in a little late on this thread as I am
hosting my own thread on "Alien Covenant" right now.

I hope I am not misreading what you are saying, here Wolf,
but I agree that this stubborn and actually DANGEROUS
unbending interpretation of scriptures and other great
works outside of the Bible have been used to hit the
common man over the head with "The Good Old Boy Club"
party line on many things from religion, to astronomy
to even the "electric universe theory.

But...this same old "lame" excuse--trying to appeal to
the masses to "trust the "OLD SCHOOL SCHOLARS" makes
me want to puke. Seriously.

Scholars from the Vatican trotted out "scholarly proof"
in the 1500's that the Egyptian Pyramids were only 5,000
years old...and that they were built by peasants using
copper chisels and rolled-out massive blocks of granite
to reach the high positions in the pyramids...on LOGS...
I mean--DO YOU THINK ANYONE STILL BELIEVES this nonsense?
Leading edge archeology is very "into" the theory, now,
that there is more than enough evidence that some of these stones were cut with lasers.

Lasers and crude copper hammers are LIGHT YEARS away from
each other,yet...these same scholars from centuries ago
influence the CURRENT belief systems and educational
LIES trotted out to the common man. It is the same thing
with the Bible and ideas about reincarnation.

Bring your cell-phone technology attitudes into your
religion...or you are going to be left far far behind.
Simple truth.


TheOracle'sCookie

Last Edited by TheOracle'sCookie on 05/28/2017 01:40 PM

Right on Oracle'sCookie!

Yes...I believe we are all here to be humbled as Christ was. People who "don't get it" about the bible or as you say "are clueless" or the "unbelievers"...I believe these people have not made the diagonal from the head to the heart. You can read the bible or go through the motions but if you haven't made the heart connection.. which is true belief in Christ with your whole heart..then you just don't get it.

So, yes I believe that once you have suffered, you can make the heart connection and truly understand the words of the Lord.

BTW, don't know yet if I believe in reincarnation

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