The Official "Reincarnation is Biblical" Thread

OP Base12,

Who do you say that Jesus Christ is?

First off, "eternal punishment" vs "eternal life". That is, eternal punishment, which is not life. If it's not life, then it's death. And that is their punishment, eternal death, for the wages of sin is death

Romans 6:23  For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Yes eternal fire. Fire with eternal consequences, not fire that burns for eternal fire. Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed with that same eternal fire.

Jude 1:7  Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.


They suffered eternal fire, or as it is called, fire and brimstone.

Genesis 19:24  Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;

Notice that the wicked suffer the same exact punishment at the end:

Revelation 20:9-10  And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.  10  And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

People mistake for ever and ever to mean eternity. It does not mean eternity. It simply means it continues until something stops it. Else, you would have to get around the other Scriptures which speak of them becoming ashes and ceasing to exist?

Nahum 1:10  For while they be folden together as thorns, and while they are drunken as drunkards, they shall be devoured as stubble fully dry.

Obadiah 1:16  For as ye have drunk upon my holy mountain, so shall all the heathen drink continually, yea, they shall drink, and they shall swallow down, and they shall be as though they had not been.

(Drink continually, as in day and night with no rest until they have been extinguished)

Malachi 4:1,3  For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. 3  And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.

Even Satan becomes ashes:

Ezekiel 28:18  Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

Just like Sodom and Gomorrah:

2 Peter 2:6  And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

Your statement fascinates me.

I never thought of it that way, but I can see how that could work.

Note that the 'eighth of the seven' really is a reincarnation or perhaps a man made clone of the King...

Revelation 17:11
"And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition"

What's funny is that I always wondered if we get reincarnated (purified) seven times because of this verse...

Psalm 12:6
"The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times"

I will study this further.

Thanks for the comment!

What is the ignorance?

What do you think you know?

My answer still stands. You are giving your own interpretations here. You pulled the verses out of context, even though they preach about what they mean in context. Yes, Christ did rise out of the grave with an incorruptible body, but that is part of it, and not the whole. What you're teaching has nothing to do with this.

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Judgement could be many things. Hell could be having to reincarnate for all eternity

Saying there is no such thing as reincarnation will save them?!

What are you talking about, Mr. Not Ignorant?

I don't know anything. Neither do you

Really?

The Rib represents a Nucleotide.

The Twenty Four Elders are twenty four 'ribs' surrounding the Heart...



The entire thing is a parable for DNA...

Hell can be anything or nothing if you just make up whatever you feel like...

Oh la la la la what a funky holy Cosmic Joke they will all find someday hihihi

Oh And know that all the old angels.... prophets..... and notables of yore are now back in body..... including the opposition.

Funny Funky Holy Time.


AnyWay..!

Yes. Literally.

It was the actual Spirit of Elijah reincarnated.


Why can't it mean several things at once?

Heaven/Earth
Old Testament/New Testament
Moses/Elias
Chromatid1/Chromatid2

Hihihi.

OP - "you shall not surely die"

What verses say hell is a parable for the womb of this world?

Hell is the grave, as I posted before.

Leviticus 18:21 does not say that at all. He's talking about your seed, such as not passing your children, not about your DNA.

Those thrown in the second fire die the second death, and then cease to exist.

Obadiah 1:15-16  For the day of the LORD is near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head.  16  For as ye have drunk upon my holy mountain, so shall all the heathen drink continually, yea, they shall drink, and they shall swallow down, and they shall be as though they had not been.

Ezekiel 28:18-19  Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.  19  All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

The first death for an unbeliever is of their human body but the second death for the unbeliever is their judgement or their spiritual death. You are wrong and don't say I am judging by correcting your misunderstanding of the bible.

May God Bless you and open your eyes to the truth (not sarcasm)

To come in the spirit of someone does not mean it's literally them.

1 John 4:3  And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

The spirit of antichrist doesn't mean it's all literally one person. In the spirit of Elijah does not mean literally one person. The Spirit of Christ with us doesn't mean it's literally Jesus. It means the Third Person of the Godhead.

It can't mean several things at once because it's not Biblical. What verses teach that the 1260 years is literally two men re-incarnating over again? The Bible doesn't teach that, but teaches that it's a work done by God's Spirit, two witnesses, which testify of Christ. "They" testify of Him.

You have to supply what the verses mean in context. You're applying your own meaning in many areas.

The silver cord is mentioned in the bible. What is it????

the connection keeping you alive (connected with the breath of life)

once its snapped, your done. until the resurrection.

Quantum Entanglement.

CAT6 Cord to God and the Holy Ghost.

That cord they plug Neo into in the Matrix?

The Devil's version.

Don't get hacked.

Do you have any verses that support this?

Years ago on C2C AM with Art Bell, Father Malachi Martin, a great scholar and religious man spoke about the "Mystery of Inequity Iniquity". He explained that We are experiencing the " Mystery of Inequity" ,a time when God has withdrawn his grace and covenant with man and allowed evil to dim our human senses causing us to lose our minds.

Look around you, don't you see how crazy people of every walk of life are acting?

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Titus 3:10 has run its course for many here.

OPs heart is hardened to light.


Proverbs 29:1

He, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy.


Destroyed. Not reincarnated.

They are going to pin a bunch of faults on you that don't translate
and then they are going to use every tactic in the book to convince you that your going to reincarnate as such and such, so-and-so, a tree a rock
and then they will proceed to make excuses, give plausible suggestions as to why there are some anomalous indescrepencies between your memory of life and your new experience your facing, all the while having a completely complacent subject willing to submit without question
then they will go back, find you in your same state and do it to you again and again and again
and you will waste your spirit on a bunch of low grade ambitionless projects done for free without reward to the great and lasting destruction of your character and who you are supposed to be

why would you start again being born as a different human that's preposterous

Thanks for visiting!

You are really on the money Cookie!

I can't believe the stuff you are posting.

Yes, the Bahai faith is KEY to the One World Religion.

I actually have some info on my website regarding them.

Their logo is similar to the Freemason Nonagon of the highest degrees...



See the three Trinity triangles? That's all of the world's religions being united by Lucifer.

Notice one triangle is black, one is white but the 'union' is gray.

Some say that Freemasonry is really Bahai in disguise.

Excellent research as usual.

Psalms 139:13 For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.

Psalms 139:16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.

His substance was his body, which was not literally wrought in the center of planet earth. He was formed in his mother's belly, like all else.

Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

Before Jeremiah was formed He was known, because God knows future, and knows all souls which follow Him and reject Him.

And Christ was in the heart of the earth, simply meaning in the grave. It had nothing to do with a disembodied spirit residing in the earth.

I don't get it...what are you talking about?

You're not making any sense.

You are in denial and convinced yourself of something that is not provable and misquoting and misinterpreting the Bible.

No one has to say anything to see that.

You get one turn, and you either learn from this experience and become a better person and give God the credit He deserves for giving you the 'breathe of life' and ask for His understanding and forgiveness that you are human and made mistakes that you regret-

or

Deny Him and His Son who died in your stead and live the way you want down here and then die in your sins without repenting.

Without the former, you don't get the experience of further developing your consciousness and ascending to be forever 'changed' and live in eternity communing with our Lord and Savior Jesus and our Father in Heaven.

Something is definitely wrong with you that you are trying to get 'others' to believe something that is definitely not Biblical and very selfish.