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"And as it is appointed unto men once to die..."

Except when God is a liar?

Hebrews 11:5
"By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God"


These contradictions just keep on piling up critics.

Better step up and explain yourselves.

Who is the liar here?

God or YOU?

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"And as it is appointed unto men once to die..."

Except when God is a liar?

Hebrews 11:5
"By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God"


These contradictions just keep on piling up critics.

Better step up and explain yourselves.

Who is the liar here?

God or YOU?

yoda
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When did Enoch come back?
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More Witnesses please…

Matthew 21:31-32
"Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you"

"For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him"


In these passages Jesus describes two different groups of people entering heaven at different times.

I.e. the only way for the Publicans and Harlots to enter heaven before the Pharisees is through the process of reincarnation.
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You miss the point about righteousness, you are only concerned about literal time.
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Typical reincarnation believer, we don't know who we were.
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Typical reincarnation believer, we don't know who we were.
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Incorrect.

Typical Bible Believer...

John 1:21
"And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No"


If John the Baptist doesn't remember, then why should I?
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By the way...

Mystery Babylon is Earth.

The Seven Mountains she sits on are the Seven Continents...

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Typical reincarnation believer, we don't know who we were.
 Quoting: javierruizleon

Incorrect.

Typical Bible Believer...

John 1:21
"And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No"


If John the Baptist doesn't remember, then why should I?
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then whats the point ya demon worshiping dummy
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I don't see anywhere in Scripture where reincarnation is supported. In fact, to say that you believe in reincarnation is to say that you believe that you can earn your way to heaven and if that were in fact the case Jesus wouldn't need to die on the cross for our sins.

What I do believe the Bible does clearly show is that we existed before we were born on this earth. Icy pre-existence in scripture but not reincarnation.
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to say that you believe in reincarnation is to say that you believe that you can earn your way to heaven...
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No.

You are mixing other religions into the equation.

Jesus is the only way out. That is what makes Christianity different from all of the other faiths.

Ephesians 2:8
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God"


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Typical reincarnation believer, we don't know who we were.
 Quoting: javierruizleon

Incorrect.

Typical Bible Believer...

John 1:21
"And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No"


If John the Baptist doesn't remember, then why should I?
 Quoting: Base12


then whats the point ya demon worshiping dummy
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There are countless documented cases of children remembering past lives.

Some of these children even remember the houses they lived in, their spouses and children.

Many of these children become part of their old families again.

I guess they are all 'demon possessed'... lol.
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Typical reincarnation believer, we don't know who we were.
 Quoting: javierruizleon

Incorrect.

Typical Bible Believer...

John 1:21
"And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No"


If John the Baptist doesn't remember, then why should I?
 Quoting: Base12


then whats the point ya demon worshiping dummy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73189735

There are countless documented cases of children remembering past lives.

Some of these children even remember the houses they lived in, their spouses and children.

Many of these children become part of their old families again.

I guess they are all 'demon possessed'... lol.
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oppressed, possessed or lying yes. like you.

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Typical reincarnation believer, we don't know who we were.
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Incorrect.

Typical Bible Believer...

John 1:21
"And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No"


If John the Baptist doesn't remember, then why should I?
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John the Baptist is not Elijah.

It is not a case of amnesia.
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1 Peter 3:19
"By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison"


Nothing like a good ol pep talk to prevent the unborn from taking the wrong path in their next life.

Thanks Jesus, it looks like it worked this time!

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Still no answer? Who were you, be specific.
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The most often raised objection. Who were you?

Since progress depends upon your forgetting the details of the experieineces of your earlier life your progress here on this planet would be tremendously hampered if you remembered all the events of you past lives. Most people can't forgive small injustices and insults. They carry these throughout their entire lives never forgiving. Imagine thousands of lives of such retaining the same memories of these types of experiences.

We maintain the essence of lessons learned and of the good things...and continue to move foreword to perfection.

It's all good.
 Quoting: Lady Truth


If it cannot be reconciled with the Bible, it leans towards heresy.

It is not all good
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The Bible was compiled by a man who murdered his wife, killed his son and butchered his nephew. Just to name of few of his crimes....or so they say. He had an agenda. Make no mistake....those liars knew the truth....they know the truth today...why do you think do you think they the evil deeds they do? And they are mostly MALES, Again, some people are good in spite of themselves and some are evil in spite of themselves. This should inspire you to Be Rightious. For what you do in this life will determine the station in your next. The popes, priests and politicians do what they do for they believe a last minute deathbed confession will clear them. Sex, money and power are powerful forces.

But good and evil must exist so that we can discern the difference between Them. Hence the Eden story. If there was no suffering how could we know of compassion?

"All the worlds a stage, and all the men and Women are merely players...."

Discernment...the knowledge to Know the Difference Betweeen Good and Evil.

This is a subject that requires much study and contemplation.....there are no easy answers.

Just my thoughts....

Be better than you think you can be....pray for help. Is there a man on the planet who prays for freedom from sexual lust?

But iat the End we will all know the truth. See you over there...
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Fuck god and jesus. You worship a son of a bitch that had the audacity to create the universe, create SICK people with either original sin - or - people in paradise but then place a temptation right in front of them? Who then freaks the fuck out and banishes his 'loved' creation for fucking up a little? Wow god, way to act like a fucking bitchass child who got his block tower knocked over, look all the creator of the fucking universe flipping his godly shit over NOTHING. If god was a person he'd be a wife beating child abusing asshole who i'd beat the every living shit out of. If gods real he better be fucking happy hes god because otherwise id knock the dogshit out of that fucking asshole. Look at the world, shitty right? But does god take any responsibility? No, he gaslights his own creations and says its 100% our fault, just like any sociopath in a abusive relationship would. Born with an attraction the same sex? Well, the "god of love" has just the thing- eternal damnation, forever, un-ending, because ya that makes sense. Even if gods real, he wants to throw my friend in hell because of that? Better send me too asshole, i will never bow down and worship an asshole deity like that, blackmailing me with where my soul goes. Thats the best he can do? Could've created something great but instead blackmails people with damnation threats just to feel powerful? Command me to love you? Eat shit, I hope satan kicks your fucking ass, no wonder he rebelled. None of this shit is real anyway, there's thousands of different ways to interpret that nonsense, all contradictory, all different ways to end up damned. Its nothing but shit used to control the weak minded, all it ever has been, all it ever will be. Where is your fucking god?
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"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.

But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God."



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“I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” (1 Timothy 2:12)

“This is what the Lord Almighty says... ‘Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’” (1 Samuel 15:3)

“Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.” (1 Peter 2:18)

“If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. Exodus 21:7

“And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God.” (Deuteronomy 13: 5)

“Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:16-18)

Ya, so god just said child rape is fine. ^^^

Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.” (I Samuel 15:2-3)

Killing babies is fine too ^^^


“Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword. Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.” (Isaiah 13:15-16)

Literally commands to rape women and kill kids ^^^

I dunno man, looks like cherry picking the bible is super easy and can be made to sound like whatever someone wants it to, just like i said. One minute it's love and sunshine at the corner church in the suburbs and at the same time its inciting hatred and justifying violence in some redneck church. Either way its brainwashing nonsense. God watched human progress for, how many years? And then revealed himself to an illiterate sheepherder in a desert?

Sure, no ya, this book doesn't sound like a book that was made by men to promote their own selfish cause at alllllllll.
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Thread: Undeniable Proof That The Bible Is, As It Claims, The Very Inspired Word Of God!

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Still no answer? Who were you, be specific.
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The most often raised objection. Who were you?

Since progress depends upon your forgetting the details of the experieineces of your earlier life your progress here on this planet would be tremendously hampered if you remembered all the events of you past lives. Most people can't forgive small injustices and insults. They carry these throughout their entire lives never forgiving. Imagine thousands of lives of such retaining the same memories of these types of experiences.

We maintain the essence of lessons learned and of the good things...and continue to move foreword to perfection.

It's all good.
 Quoting: Lady Truth


If it cannot be reconciled with the Bible, it leans towards heresy.

It is not all good
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The Bible was compiled by a man who murdered his wife, killed his son and butchered his nephew. Just to name of few of his crimes....or so they say. He had an agenda. Make no mistake....those liars knew the truth....they know the truth today...why do you think do you think they the evil deeds they do? And they are mostly MALES, Again, some people are good in spite of themselves and some are evil in spite of themselves. This should inspire you to Be Rightious. For what you do in this life will determine the station in your next. The popes, priests and politicians do what they do for they believe a last minute deathbed confession will clear them. Sex, money and power are powerful forces.

But good and evil must exist so that we can discern the difference between Them. Hence the Eden story. If there was no suffering how could we know of compassion?

"All the worlds a stage, and all the men and Women are merely players...."

Discernment...the knowledge to Know the Difference Betweeen Good and Evil.

This is a subject that requires much study and contemplation.....there are no easy answers.

Just my thoughts....

Be better than you think you can be....pray for help. Is there a man on the planet who prays for freedom from sexual lust?

But iat the End we will all know the truth. See you over there...
 Quoting: Lady Truth


You recommend prayer.. to whom?

The Bible was written by men but inspired by God. Rather than resort to ad hominem logical fallacies, I invite you to test the Scriptures honestly.
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I'm a big fan of Chuck Missler.

Here is another Pastor I recommend...




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1 Peter 3:19
"By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison"


Nothing like a good ol pep talk to prevent the unborn from taking the wrong path in their next life.

Thanks Jesus, it looks like it worked this time!

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I'm a big fan of Chuck Missler.

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"There are people that really take reincarnation seriously, and it's not a Biblical subject."

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The most often raised objection. Who were you?

Since progress depends upon your forgetting the details of the experieineces of your earlier life your progress here on this planet would be tremendously hampered if you remembered all the events of you past lives. Most people can't forgive small injustices and insults. They carry these throughout their entire lives never forgiving. Imagine thousands of lives of such retaining the same memories of these types of experiences.

We maintain the essence of lessons learned and of the good things...and continue to move foreword to perfection.

It's all good.
 Quoting: Lady Truth


If it cannot be reconciled with the Bible, it leans towards heresy.

It is not all good
 Quoting: Expose ALL Shills


The Bible was compiled by a man who murdered his wife, killed his son and butchered his nephew. Just to name of few of his crimes....or so they say. He had an agenda. Make no mistake....those liars knew the truth....they know the truth today...why do you think do you think they the evil deeds they do? And they are mostly MALES, Again, some people are good in spite of themselves and some are evil in spite of themselves. This should inspire you to Be Rightious. For what you do in this life will determine the station in your next. The popes, priests and politicians do what they do for they believe a last minute deathbed confession will clear them. Sex, money and power are powerful forces.

But good and evil must exist so that we can discern the difference between Them. Hence the Eden story. If there was no suffering how could we know of compassion?

"All the worlds a stage, and all the men and Women are merely players...."

Discernment...the knowledge to Know the Difference Betweeen Good and Evil.

This is a subject that requires much study and contemplation.....there are no easy answers.

Just my thoughts....

Be better than you think you can be....pray for help. Is there a man on the planet who prays for freedom from sexual lust?

But iat the End we will all know the truth. See you over there...
 Quoting: Lady Truth


You recommend prayer.. to whom?

The Bible was written by MEN but inspired by God. Rather than resort to ad hominem logical fallacies, I invite you to test the Scriptures honestly.
 Quoting: Expose ALL Shills


The All That Is.

I like this descripter, no chance for error.

And yes, it was written by MEN and MEN Alone and for the most part deciphered by MEN....mostly Alone.

hf
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By the way...

Mystery Babylon is Earth.

The Seven Mountains she sits on are the Seven Continents...

:unclemikey-745:

:themoreyouknow:
 Quoting: Base12


The cup of God's wrath that Babylon and other nations drink from (blood), certainly not from the cup of salvation(life giving waters).
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I love you OP, I think you're an awesome brother......but you're wrong on this one.

The bible says man only dies once........and also if reincarnation was real, and we had to keep reincarnating to work our way up to heaven, then Jesus came and died for nothing because we would eventually arrive in heaven on our own merits, not His.

This goes against everything the bible says and goes against the sacrifice on the cross.

Sorry.
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"Mystery Babylon Is Earth".....is She a heroine or a villain?

..but there is more here than meets the eye.

One must ask, was Moses a hero....or a Villian?

This one is gonna be tough...the laws of men vs. The Laws of Nature ....what happened?

This is a matter/mother planet. Fact.

Gary Greenberg, Osarseph and Exodus....I'll see if I can post a link....I love this guy but he still remains is somewhat lost....the programming is deep.

Curious about your thoughts on this OP.

"Most Egyptologists and biblical scholars who study this report easily recognize that it tells of events during the reign of Pharaoh Akhenaten, but they uniformly reject the identification of Moses with Osarseph. By concentrating solely on the passage identifying these two figures as one and the same, however, I submit that scholars have overlooked many additional passages that have literary parallels in the biblical Exodus account, but which switch the role of villain and hero.

(Greenberg is not the only one who questioned the Moses story)


"In this paper I will look at some of these parallel events and show that Manetho’s story of Osarseph and the bible’s story of Moses and the Exodus draw upon many of the same Egyptian literary themes. Among the issues examined are the hiding of the infant from the cruel ruler, the return of the infant later on to challenge the cruel ruler, the “seeing of god”, leprosy, and the city where the slaves worked. The paper will argue that the Exodus occurred during the coregency of Ramesses 1 and Sethos, and that the confrontation between Moses/Osarseph and “Ramesses also known as Sethos” arose out of a struggle for possession of the throne at the death of Pharaoh Horemheb. The Manetho and biblical stories each represent an attempt to identify the hero with the god Horus and the villain with the god Set.

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I love you OP, I think you're an awesome brother......but you're wrong on this one.

The bible says man only dies once........and also if reincarnation was real, and we had to keep reincarnating to work our way up to heaven, then Jesus came and died for nothing because we would eventually arrive in heaven on our own merits, not His.

This goes against everything the bible says and goes against the sacrifice on the cross.

Sorry.
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"Mystery Babylon Is Earth"
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mystery babylon is the roman catholic church.

the mother of harlots and abominations of the earth.

your mother.



maybe you should read Revelation 18:4 and ponder if He is speaking to you





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