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The Official "Reincarnation is Biblical" Thread

 
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They have always killed those who knew the truth.



Apocrypha: Wisdom Chapter 2

1 For the ungodly said, reasoning with themselves, but not aright, Our life is short and tedious, and in the death of a man there is no remedy: neither was there any man known to have returned from the grave.

2 For we are born at all adventure: and we shall be hereafter as though we had never been: for the breath in our nostrils is as smoke, and a little spark in the moving of our heart:

3 Which being extinguished, our body shall be turned into ashes, and our spirit shall vanish as the soft air,

4 And our name shall be forgotten in time, and no man shall have our works in remembrance, and our life shall pass away as the trace of a cloud, and shall be dispersed as a mist, that is driven away with the beams of the sun, and overcome with the heat thereof.

5 For our time is a very shadow that passeth away; and after our end there is no returning: for it is fast sealed, so that no man cometh again.

6 Come on therefore, let us enjoy the good things that are present: and let us speedily use the creatures like as in youth.

7 Let us fill ourselves with costly wine and ointments: and let no flower of the spring pass by us:

8 Let us crown ourselves with rosebuds, before they be withered:

9 Let none of us go without his part of our voluptuousness: let us leave tokens of our joyfulness in every place: for this is our portion, and our lot is this.

10 Let us oppress the poor righteous man, let us not spare the widow, nor reverence the ancient gray hairs of the aged.

11 Let our strength be the law of justice: for that which is feeble is found to be nothing worth.

12 Therefore let us lie in wait for the righteous; because he is not for our turn, and he is clean contrary to our doings: he upbraideth us with our offending the law, and objecteth to our infamy the transgressings of our education.

13 He professeth to have the knowledge of God: and he calleth himself the child of the Lord.

14 He was made to reprove our thoughts.

15 He is grievous unto us even to behold: for his life is not like other men's, his ways are of another fashion.

16 We are esteemed of him as counterfeits: he abstaineth from our ways as from filthiness: he pronounceth the end of the just to be blessed, and maketh his boast that God is his father.

17 Let us see if his words be true: and let us prove what shall happen in the end of him.

18 For if the just man be the son of God, he will help him, and deliver him from the hand of his enemies.

19 Let us examine him with despitefulness and torture, that we may know his meekness, and prove his patience.

20 Let us condemn him with a shameful death: for by his own saying he shall be respected.

21 Such things they did imagine, and were deceived: for their own wickedness hath blinded them.

22 As for the mysteries of God, they knew them not: neither hoped they for the wages of righteousness, nor discerned a reward for blameless souls.

23 For God created man to be immortal, and made him to be an image of his own eternity.

24 Nevertheless through envy of the devil came death into the world: and they that do hold of his side do find it.
 Quoting: New Heart


Thank you New Heart.
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JWP,

We're discussing reincarnation and how Jesus son of Joseph taught it in Matthew 11:14-15, John 8:58, etc. please stay ON-TOPIC.
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According to Edgar Cayce, one can reincarnate in a past timeline.

Robert Monroe spoke of this too.

I do not want to come back in THIS timeline.
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I will go wherever I am called.

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He told me..

I volunteered.

And I would do it again..

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The Gnostics and the Cathars both believed in the doctrine of Reincarnation aka..the "Transmigration of the Soul". And they were both slaughtered by the Catholics for it!

It has always been embraced by the East though.

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Correct and they were correct. They also correctly believed that Jesus son of Joseph and Mary Magdalen were married and that she had his daughter Sarah. But besides these heretical beliefs, the BIG reason they were persecuted by the Roman Catholic Church was that they didn't recognize Roma's control of their church and they paid no money to Roma. That got both John the Baptist and Jesus killed.
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Souls allocated to this earth are finite.
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Benjamin Franklin believed in the "transmigration of the soul". (The term reincarnation was coined about 10 years after he died.) The 'Grandfather of Our Country' was reincarnated 19 years later as Abraham Lincoln. How else to explain Lincoln's genius when he only attended a prairie school for 1 year?
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Souls allocated to this earth are finite.
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Wrong. All souls - human and animals - are infinite/eternal whether on this earth or another. Jesus son of Joseph taught reincarnation and science has now proven it.
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JWP,

We're discussing reincarnation and how Jesus son of Joseph taught it in Matthew 11:14-15, John 8:58, etc. please stay ON-TOPIC.
 Quoting: Christ 2 - Einstein returned 69749460


BIBLICAL is in the title... and coming back from the dead is BIBLICAL ...

whereas "reincarnation" is a related but NON-biblical concept.

You just don't like the truth
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The resurrection is remembering you was here before and knowing yourself. You even see how they killed you before.

why do you think they push that movie the Shining so much?


If you shine, they murder you.


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Revelation 13:18, "666" encoded Caesar Neron transliterated from Greek to Hebrew gematria. "616" comes from the Latin Caesar Nero transliterated to Hebrew gematria.

Ronald(6 letters) Wilson(6) Reagan(6) aka Ronald(6) W.(1) Reagan(6) the actor was the reincarnation of Emperor Nero the actor.
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whereas "reincarnation" is a related but NON-biblical concept. You just don't like the truth
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Wrong. It's YOU who don't like the Truth! Are you a liar and hypocrite regarding the 2nd Coming of the Christ?

Have you ever imagined being able to talk to the returned Christ? Here's your chance - go ahead.
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The resurrection is remembering you was here before and knowing yourself. You even see how they killed you before.

why do you think they push that movie the Shining so much?


If you shine, they murder you.


Daniel
 Quoting: New Heart




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Is Donald Trump 666 (when A=49, B50...) the Great Builder the reincarnation of Herod the Great?

The Western Wall (Wailing Wall) was built by Herod I as part of the 3rd Temple complex (1. Solomon's Temple, 2. Zerubbabel's Temple). He's usually referred to as Herod the Great because he was a great builder (not because he was a great humanitarian.) Donald Trump 666 (when A=49, B50...) is also a great builder. He's Benito Mussolini directly reincarnated, but could his eternal soul have been Herod I over 2,000 years ago?! Let's see what kind of synchronic reaction this post gets.

I first had this idea last night at the grocery store when I saw the photo of Trump at the Western Wall on the cover of the Miami Herald. When I came out of the store, the night sky was perfectly clear and devoid of any clouds. And there was no wind at all.
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Souls allocated to this earth are finite.
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There is no such thing dear one.

If you even can ask, am I real, and you're not a toaster, you're an infinite part of infinity. There is no AI, you're either real, and can ask these questions or you don't think at all, you're just a toaster. Even if you appear to be highly intelligent, like some greys do. Some of them are toasters, highly complex computerized toasters.

Forever you are.

I Am.

You Are.

Time is just a program. So your Higher Self, infinite soul and intellect/spirit, is sort of like a GM in a game, and your stints (reincarnations), which are not limited to earth, and happen in any place that Higher Self allows or your frequency does, can be all over the place.

Your next life could be ancient Egypt.

You may have come in from a future world and be on assignment.

They're just separate work stations.

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I have actually never studied the possibility of reincarnation. But I don't see it as a salvation issue, so I don't know but rock on!
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I'm really beginning to come to the conclusion there are many verses that support reincarnation up until one accepts & joins with the "over soul" that is Christ, which then gives us the "power to become sons of God." Jesus says NOT ONE JOT or TITLE of the LAW is waived...(if you fall under the Law), however if Jesus "KNOWS" you INTIMATELY (as he tells those knocking at the door) you enter into IMMORTALITY. There is also the scripture of the "unclean spirit that wanders in DRY areas then returns to his (idle) house that is swept (clean to try again) and ready to go. These are just some things that make me think reincarnation is the LAW & until you advance beyond such & accept Christ as "WAY (out) of captivity, the TRUTH (that was meant for you in worship w the FATHER) & the LIFE (big one here, immortal life)," until you do that, you wash, rinse & repeat. My 2 cents.
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"And as it is appointed unto men once to die..."

Except when God is a liar?

Hebrews 11:5
"By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God"


These contradictions just keep on piling up critics.

Better step up and explain yourselves.

Who is the liar here?

God or YOU?

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Flesh is flesh, and spirit is spirit...he may not at all be talking about one death of FLESH, but rather the death associated with living in the "knowledge of good & evil" "lest man reaches out & eats of the tree of (immortal) LIFE (in Christ)."
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I'm really beginning to come to the conclusion there are many verses that support reincarnation up until one accepts & joins with the "over soul" that is Christ, which then gives us the "power to become sons of God." Jesus says NOT ONE JOT or TITLE of the LAW is waived...(if you fall under the Law), however if Jesus "KNOWS" you INTIMATELY (as he tells those knocking at the door) you enter into IMMORTALITY. There is also the scripture of the "unclean spirit that wanders in DRY areas then returns to his (idle) house that is swept (clean to try again) and ready to go. These are just some things that make me think reincarnation is the LAW & until you advance beyond such & accept Christ as "WAY (out) of captivity, the TRUTH (that was meant for you in worship w the FATHER) & the LIFE (big one here, immortal life)," until you do that, you wash, rinse & repeat. My 2 cents.
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I can't read this.

Mabey I'm not supposed to.

I'm dyslexic.

haShem knocked on my door.. and then he held a sword to my head..

I was unclean..

When he left... Something else happened.. and Jesus saved me.
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I love you OP, I think you're an awesome brother......but you're wrong on this one.

The bible says man only dies once........and also if reincarnation was real, and we had to keep reincarnating to work our way up to heaven, then Jesus came and died for nothing because we would eventually arrive in heaven on our own merits, not His.

This goes against everything the bible says and goes against the sacrifice on the cross.

Sorry.
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It does say a second death comes in the lake of fire. Those in hell are not eternal and will be put to death. And with the resurrection we get new bodies, that's not reincarnation like they are pushing in this thread.
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Souls allocated to this earth are finite.
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Wrong. All souls - human and animals - are infinite/eternal whether on this earth or another. Jesus son of Joseph taught reincarnation and science has now proven it.
 Quoting: Christ 2 - Einstein returned 69749460


False. Eternal soul was a concept to the philosophers and not biblical. Nothing is eternal except through god. Non saved souls are killed in the lake of fire. The rest get to experience a new earth.
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But aren't we all unique in our own way, and each of us has a soul that is unique and immortal? In a reincarnation scenario, would the soul move on?
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to say that you believe in reincarnation is to say that you believe that you can earn your way to heaven...
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No.

You are mixing other religions into the equation.

Jesus is the only way out. That is what makes Christianity different from all of the other faiths.

Ephesians 2:8
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God"


It is a gift.
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It's not at ALL about "earning" your way, in fact "the kingdom of GOD is at hand." It's about accepting Christ's guidance / teaching & "judgements" (which are HELPFUL in the long run, not condemning. And he is the "shield & your reward"...eternal LIFE, because then you are no longer under the Law.
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The prophet Elijah lives 4 times in the bible. Moses at leat 2 times. Jesus said if you see someone who you have known from a prior life, you let them go there way and you go yours. I will add John the baptist,and the prophet Elijah one and the same. The church I will point out in the bible is called a false-prophet.
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^^^

See how the only thing the critics know how to do is lob insults?

They have no defense.

No verses do they have to support their claims.

The debate is over before it begins... lol.

Thanks for proving my point!

hf
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Second death is the death of the spirit when your cut off from m god and cast into hell
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But aren't we all unique in our own way, and each of us has a soul that is unique and immortal? In a reincarnation scenario, would the soul move on?
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consider that your life is unique but your soul isn't
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But aren't we all unique in our own way, and each of us has a soul that is unique and immortal? In a reincarnation scenario, would the soul move on?
 Quoting: bigD111



consider that your life is unique but your soul isn't
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Hard to.
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Is Donald Trump 666 (when A=49, B50...) the Great Builder the reincarnation of Herod the Great?

The Western Wall (Wailing Wall) was built by Herod I as part of the 3rd Temple complex (1. Solomon's Temple, 2. Zerubbabel's Temple). He's usually referred to as Herod the Great because he was a great builder (not because he was a great humanitarian.) Donald Trump 666 (when A=49, B50...) is also a great builder. He's Benito Mussolini directly reincarnated, but could his eternal soul have been Herod I over 2,000 years ago?! Let's see what kind of synchronic reaction this post gets.

I first had this idea last night at the grocery store when I saw the photo of Trump at the Western Wall on the cover of the Miami Herald. When I came out of the store, the night sky was perfectly clear and devoid of any clouds. And there was no wind at all.
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Who the FUCK is "Ronald Reagan"???

Never heard of him.
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Malachi and the Gospels and Jesus and God and whomever else would be liars otherwise.

Elijah...John the Baptist...

All the mainstream Abrahamic religions have it wrong.



One thing I've WITNESSED is the Demonic nature of those who call this out...the manner(isms) and tone...so perhaps it is DEMONS who bring this up....they don't want you to believe the bible, God, or Jesus or the prophets.
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But aren't we all unique in our own way, and each of us has a soul that is unique and immortal? In a reincarnation scenario, would the soul move on?
 Quoting: bigD111



consider that your life is unique but your soul isn't
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Hard to.
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Yes, hence the dilemma. The 'Heaven Can Wait' movies present the reincarnation notion...
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I didn't say that to be a punk.

Without indentation.. I can't complete your thoughts.

I can't see where one statement ends and another begins..

It's not to be rude.. Just.. a declaration of my personal limitations.. and why the Bible is written in its manner..

I'm not disadvantaged..

I can actually see the sums and cross reference them back.. to see the lessons on repeat... Over and over . Through the verbs adjectives and adverbs.. and mathematics..

Just being straight.

I mean NO000 offense.
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