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The Deplorable Manosteel
User ID: 72950469 United States 10/01/2016 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We seem to be happy letting everyone else do it... My family heritage is German-Irish. My father's side (German side) came to the USA before it was the USA...they arrived from Heidelberg area in the 1640's. Mother's side of the family arrived from Ireland in the 1780's. I am proud of both sides of my family. I guess it all depends on how a person "honors" their heritage.... Only idiots hate facts |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73095410 United States 10/01/2016 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What's funny is Americans of Scotch Irish decent.. Decedents of Ulster-men tattooing symbols of the indigenous Irish on their bodies.. There are still old men around here sending money back to the UDA so the struggle can be continued.. I support peace.. As long as that peace includes the free stater of Ulster.. ROTFLMAO.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68415154 United States 10/01/2016 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm half Irish and I celebrate St. Patrick's day with some cornbeef and cabbage and soda bread. I acknowledge my Irishness one day a year. It otherwise means nothing to me. Quoting: The Deplorable GLP Effect Seriously I like your style but your fellow "Irish-Americans" well I just can't with their bullshit. Paddy's day bothers me on so many levels because it's not an Independence day celebration. It's a Saint's Day celebration that has been co-opted as Ireland's national day which just furthers your "Irish-American" wankers notion that to be Irish is to be Catholic. Hell no, you American's can fuck off with that idea. Pancake day here is not Shrove's Tuesday anymore, It's just a day when everybody gets over excited about pancakes, and upsets the French by putting lemon juice on them. Ohhhh, the problem is that he's Orange. He's not just half English, the other half is Scots-Irish Protestant. He isn't Irish at all. No I am not, I dont align fully with either side but I consider my self an Ulsterman. The point I am trying to make is that fervent Catholicism of "Irish Americans" and their version of Ireland. In their version of a St Patrick's Day parade, it is overseen by a Bishop which is totally wrong and doesn't happen here. That's what I'm more annoyed by, the leaders of Irish representation in the USA are blinkered and out of touch not only with the Irish republic and Northern Ireland, but also with the population demographic they purport to represent. Sooo, you are saying that the "leaders of Irish representation" in the US should really be "in touch" with the "Irish republic in Northern Ireland", and the Ulstermen in particular, or you are going to be really annoyed? Has to be a shill!!! |
UMadBrah?
User ID: 71619511 United States 10/01/2016 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have Irish ancestors on both sides of my family, but I identify as Texan, not "Irish-American". Being Irish means nothing to me. Part of My mom's side of the family has been in Texas literally since the war of independence from Mexico. I literally had an ancestor who fought for texas independence Last Edited by UMadBrah? on 10/01/2016 09:10 AM |
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Just A Heroin Junkie
(OP) User ID: 72099278 United Kingdom 10/01/2016 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What's funny is Americans of Scotch Irish decent.. Decedents of Ulster-men tattooing symbols of the indigenous Irish on their bodies.. There are still old men around here sending money back to the UDA so the struggle can be continued.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73095410 I support peace.. As long as that peace includes the free stater of Ulster.. ROTFLMAO.. That's quite sad because when I visit the States no "Irish-Americans" there I meet really (outside a few nutcases) gave a shit about sectarian differences or Papist plots or Jewish cabals or whatever. The only hated the "Irish-Americans" I met had was for the exclusion of gay people from Paddy's day which is ironic really for an event that symbolizes the acceptance of a hated minority. You couldn't make it up. |
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Deplorable Michael Deschain
User ID: 69061168 United States 10/01/2016 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damn Op, it sounds like folks are just ya know, celebrating their heritage and you don't like the fashion in which they do so? I'm predominantly Irish and Welsh but not the shamrock shirt wearing type, I think it's tacky. The people you're describing remind me of my cousin though. If you don't like how they do it ol' boy, let 'em know how it's really done, out on the Emerald Isle. :Cthulhu2016: :SCCSA: The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. - HPL |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73096471 Ireland 10/01/2016 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What's funny is Americans of Scotch Irish decent.. Decedents of Ulster-men tattooing symbols of the indigenous Irish on their bodies.. There are still old men around here sending money back to the UDA so the struggle can be continued.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73095410 I support peace.. As long as that peace includes the free stater of Ulster.. ROTFLMAO.. That's quite sad because when I visit the States no "Irish-Americans" there I meet really (outside a few nutcases) gave a shit about sectarian differences or Papist plots or Jewish cabals or whatever. The only hated the "Irish-Americans" I met had was for the exclusion of gay people from Paddy's day which is ironic really for an event that symbolizes the acceptance of a hated minority. You couldn't make it up. Belfast, the ex-hatred capital of the world :-) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64483693 United States 10/01/2016 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My family work hard to promote our Irish heritage and keep it thriving in Middle America. Both of my daughters are Irish dancers, my boy plays the fiddle. I have no problem with others wanting to take part in the culture. The Irish in America were treated like shit when most came over. Many were slaves who were valued less than those from Africa. You sir can take your self righteous ass back to England if you have a problem with the people you meet here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72732005 United States 10/01/2016 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seeing this people on TV/video/ even meeting them in pubs & bars etc identifying as "Irish-American" is really starting to piss me off. Quoting: Just A Heroin Junkie I will never understand why someone who wasn't born in Ireland, has likely never even visited Ireland and only has a direct relation from that country, some bloody six or seven generations back BUT insists on identifying to an almost psychotic level with that country, WTF? When I have visited America and been into Irish bars, I have been in some sticky situations with over-identified Irish-Americans going apeshit, threatening violence for me being British (I am half Irish) and for pointing out their hypocrisies and total lack of understanding of what they want to believe is their culture. Walking into an "Irish-American" bar is like watching the blackest of black comedies with so-called "Irish" whiskey named "Black and Tan" (no doubt purchased and drunk completely unironically right?) I nearly shit myself when I saw it and the "Irish-American" dickheads drinking "Irish Car Bombs" thinking it's something that flies back in the old country. Someone seriously needs to make a comedy sketch about "Irish Americans" having drinks to drown their sorrows after the Boston bombing, and ordering "Irish car bombs" when they get to the bar. I'm a Mc and agree wholeheartedly. Its more inflated than other heritage for some reason. The jokes are funny though. My dad's from Swindon and one side of the family always jokingly talks shit that were Mcs |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70684299 Ireland 10/01/2016 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damn Op, it sounds like folks are just ya know, celebrating their heritage and you don't like the fashion in which they do so? Quoting: Deplorable Michael Deschain I'm predominantly Irish and Welsh but not the shamrock shirt wearing type, I think it's tacky. The people you're describing remind me of my cousin though. If you don't like how they do it ol' boy, let 'em know how it's really done, out on the Emerald Isle. He's nothing to do with the Emerald Isle, his 'Irish' half is from Ulster, part of the UK. |
Just A Heroin Junkie
(OP) User ID: 72099278 United Kingdom 10/01/2016 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My family work hard to promote our Irish heritage and keep it thriving in Middle America. Both of my daughters are Irish dancers, my boy plays the fiddle. I have no problem with others wanting to take part in the culture. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64483693 The Irish in America were treated like shit when most came over. Many were slaves who were valued less than those from Africa. You sir can take your self righteous ass back to England if you have a problem with the people you meet here. You just sound sad and are desperate for legitimacy trying to link your families heritage to an older history, than a post colonial one. But you are entirely right regarding "Irish-Americans" and their struggle within America, and I side with you as far as people saying "I'm 1/4 Irish" but show no recognition for their own heritage until St Patrick's Day, when even then they fail utterly to express their Irishness and use the event to exclude minorities from the parade like gays under the guise of Catholicism when its convenient not realizing that "Irish-Americans" where once ironically a hated minority in your country. Last Edited by Just A Heroin Junkie on 10/01/2016 09:32 AM |
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Just A Heroin Junkie
(OP) User ID: 72099278 United Kingdom 10/01/2016 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damn Op, it sounds like folks are just ya know, celebrating their heritage and you don't like the fashion in which they do so? Quoting: Deplorable Michael Deschain I'm predominantly Irish and Welsh but not the shamrock shirt wearing type, I think it's tacky. The people you're describing remind me of my cousin though. If you don't like how they do it ol' boy, let 'em know how it's really done, out on the Emerald Isle. He's nothing to do with the Emerald Isle, his 'Irish' half is from Ulster, part of the UK. The Irish side of my family are no just from Ulster, my grandmother is form Wexford. Last Edited by Just A Heroin Junkie on 10/01/2016 09:32 AM |
Deplorable Michael Deschain
User ID: 69061168 United States 10/01/2016 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damn Op, it sounds like folks are just ya know, celebrating their heritage and you don't like the fashion in which they do so? Quoting: Deplorable Michael Deschain I'm predominantly Irish and Welsh but not the shamrock shirt wearing type, I think it's tacky. The people you're describing remind me of my cousin though. If you don't like how they do it ol' boy, let 'em know how it's really done, out on the Emerald Isle. He's nothing to do with the Emerald Isle, his 'Irish' half is from Ulster, part of the UK. In that case, I guess he has no case to be so supremely butthurt in regards to Americans celebrating their Irish heritage. Just a guy with a pointless opinion. :Cthulhu2016: :SCCSA: The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. - HPL |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64483693 United States 10/01/2016 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My family work hard to promote our Irish heritage and keep it thriving in Middle America. Both of my daughters are Irish dancers, my boy plays the fiddle. I have no problem with others wanting to take part in the culture. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64483693 The Irish in America were treated like shit when most came over. Many were slaves who were valued less than those from Africa. You sir can take your self righteous ass back to England if you have a problem with the people you meet here. You just sound sad and are desperate for legitimacy trying to link your families heritage to an older history, than a post colonial one. But you are entirely right regarding "Irish-Americans" and their struggle within America, and I side with you as far as people saying "I'm 1/4 Irish" but show no recognition for their own heritage until St Patrick's Day, when even then they fail utterly to express their Irishness and use the event to exclude minorities from the parade like gays under the guise of Catholicism when its convenient not realizing that "Irish-Americans" where once ironically a hated minority in your country. If you choose to equate wanting my children...and hopefully their offspring, to understand their roots with being sad, so he it. Your focus on the parade is nuts. Piss off |
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Just A Heroin Junkie
(OP) User ID: 72099278 United Kingdom 10/01/2016 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damn Op, it sounds like folks are just ya know, celebrating their heritage and you don't like the fashion in which they do so? Quoting: Deplorable Michael Deschain I'm predominantly Irish and Welsh but not the shamrock shirt wearing type, I think it's tacky. The people you're describing remind me of my cousin though. If you don't like how they do it ol' boy, let 'em know how it's really done, out on the Emerald Isle. He's nothing to do with the Emerald Isle, his 'Irish' half is from Ulster, part of the UK. In that case, I guess he has no case to be so supremely butthurt in regards to Americans celebrating their Irish heritage. Just a guy with a pointless opinion. Pointless huh? You don't get to live in America, pay American taxes and vote in American elections and then absolve yourself from the responsibility of being American by claiming you're Irish because your great great grandparents were Irish. These so-called "Irish-Americans" need to put their money where their mouth is and move to Ireland if that's genuinely how they feel. If I don't like being British can I just claim I'm actually French? Is that how it works? Don't be fooled by my English accent, pale skin and having been born in England. I am actually French. Hon hon hon. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6176722 United States 10/01/2016 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm half Irish and I celebrate St. Patrick's day with some cornbeef and cabbage and soda bread. I acknowledge my Irishness one day a year. It otherwise means nothing to me. Quoting: The Deplorable GLP Effect Seriously I like your style but your fellow "Irish-Americans" well I just can't with their bullshit. Paddy's day bothers me on so many levels because it's not an Independence day celebration. It's a Saint's Day celebration that has been co-opted as Ireland's national day which just furthers your "Irish-American" wankers notion that to be Irish is to be Catholic. Hell no, you American's can fuck off with that idea. Pancake day here is not Shrove's Tuesday anymore, It's just a day when everybody gets over excited about pancakes, and upsets the French by putting lemon juice on them. Ohhhh, the problem is that he's Orange. He's not just half English, the other half is Scots-Irish Protestant. He isn't Irish at all. No I am not, I dont align fully with either side but I consider my self an Ulsterman. The point I am trying to make is that fervent Catholicism of "Irish Americans" and their version of Ireland. In their version of a St Patrick's Day parade, it is overseen by a Bishop which is totally wrong and doesn't happen here. That's what I'm more annoyed by, the leaders of Irish representation in the USA are blinkered and out of touch not only with the Irish republic and Northern Ireland, but also with the population demographic they purport to represent. |
private vs public User ID: 40756001 United States 10/01/2016 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Irish Americans don't take care of their own, they abused alcohol, feuded. The Chinese established each other in businesses, white collar educated their children and have excelled, as a group, together upwardly mobile. Irish Americans in the post war 50's to 70's depended on trade unions to be there for their kids, manufacturingwas gutted and it has left a huge void. The gay Irish in the NY parade was solely a local issue. It was a privately sponsored event, Ancient Order of Hibernians ran the NY Paddy's parade. Chicago never had a single problem with a gay float or marchers, it is a city hosted event, they cannot discriminate. Do you understand the difference? Its a non issue now, the old guard hardline papists have died off. A new day move on laddie |
Just A Heroin Junkie
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The Animator
User ID: 72742548 Ireland 10/01/2016 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm half Irish and I celebrate St. Patrick's day with some cornbeef and cabbage and soda bread. I acknowledge my Irishness one day a year. It otherwise means nothing to me. Quoting: The Deplorable GLP Effect Sounds awful. Why not try an actual Irish dish like bacon and cabbage? Lol, corned beef and cabbage |
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Deplorable Michael Deschain
User ID: 69061168 United States 10/01/2016 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damn Op, it sounds like folks are just ya know, celebrating their heritage and you don't like the fashion in which they do so? Quoting: Deplorable Michael Deschain I'm predominantly Irish and Welsh but not the shamrock shirt wearing type, I think it's tacky. The people you're describing remind me of my cousin though. If you don't like how they do it ol' boy, let 'em know how it's really done, out on the Emerald Isle. He's nothing to do with the Emerald Isle, his 'Irish' half is from Ulster, part of the UK. In that case, I guess he has no case to be so supremely butthurt in regards to Americans celebrating their Irish heritage. Just a guy with a pointless opinion. Pointless huh? You don't get to live in America, pay American taxes and vote in American elections and then absolve yourself from the responsibility of being American by claiming you're Irish because your great great grandparents were Irish. These so-called "Irish-Americans" need to put their money where their mouth is and move to Ireland if that's genuinely how they feel. If I don't like being British can I just claim I'm actually French? Is that how it works? Don't be fooled by my English accent, pale skin and having been born in England. I am actually French. Hon hon hon. Your argument is idiotic and invalid. You're bitching about how the descendants of Irish immigrants choose to celebrate their heritage. It has nothing to do with taxes or where they choose to live. They haven't chosen to arbitrarily "pick a race" and identify as such. Stop being so fucking pathetically stupid. :Cthulhu2016: :SCCSA: The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. - HPL |
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