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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72893225 United States 10/01/2016 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Deplorable Michael Deschain In that case, I guess he has no case to be so supremely butthurt in regards to Americans celebrating their Irish heritage. Just a guy with a pointless opinion. Pointless huh? You don't get to live in America, pay American taxes and vote in American elections and then absolve yourself from the responsibility of being American by claiming you're Irish because your great great grandparents were Irish. These so-called "Irish-Americans" need to put their money where their mouth is and move to Ireland if that's genuinely how they feel. If I don't like being British can I just claim I'm actually French? Is that how it works? Don't be fooled by my English accent, pale skin and having been born in England. I am actually French. Hon hon hon. Your argument is idiotic and invalid. You're bitching about how the descendants of Irish immigrants choose to celebrate their heritage. It has nothing to do with taxes or where they choose to live. They haven't chosen to arbitrarily "pick a race" and identify as such. Stop being so fucking pathetically stupid. I am not being pathetically stupid. Irish means Irish people, people that live in Ireland. Irish-American means Americans with Irish heritage. There's a huge difference. Ireland didn't stop functioning and evolving culturally when Irish people left it for the Americas. It continued on and it continues on today. The Irish culture people left has almost nothing to do with Irish culture nowadays, they are completely divergent from each other. That's why Americans shouldn't call themselves Irish or "Irish-American". There's an Irish culture alive and well in Ireland and it's absolutely nothing like "Irish-American" culture. It's just the same as native Brits referring to themselves as Norse English, Saxon English, Pictish Scottish or Romano Welsh. Just seems a bit daft if you don't speak Latin or Proto-Celtic, or worship Apollo or Odin. I hail from a northern English Industrial city built on immigration, Manchester, every other kid in class had Scots, Welsh, Irish or Polish grandparents. But you never here the phrase "Irish Mancunian" or "Polish Mancunian". So you're one of these gutless dogs handing Europe over to barbaric Muslims, because after all following your logic...as soon as the UN shoves the Muslim into a flat on your street, your culture is done and the new 'evolved culture' is what they tell you it is. Piss off, idiot. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73093456 Ireland 10/01/2016 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What's funny is Americans of Scotch Irish decent.. Decedents of Ulster-men tattooing symbols of the indigenous Irish on their bodies.. There are still old men around here sending money back to the UDA so the struggle can be continued.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73095410 I support peace.. As long as that peace includes the free stater of Ulster.. ROTFLMAO.. That's quite sad because when I visit the States no "Irish-Americans" there I meet really (outside a few nutcases) gave a shit about sectarian differences or Papist plots or Jewish cabals or whatever. The only hated the "Irish-Americans" I met had was for the exclusion of gay people from Paddy's day which is ironic really for an event that symbolizes the acceptance of a hated minority. You couldn't make it up. I love how bitter you loyalist scum are. I also find it funny that you are a filthy junkie. Like so many of your kin up north. Haha, we don't give a fuck what you clowns think. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73093456 Ireland 10/01/2016 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My family work hard to promote our Irish heritage and keep it thriving in Middle America. Both of my daughters are Irish dancers, my boy plays the fiddle. I have no problem with others wanting to take part in the culture. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64483693 The Irish in America were treated like shit when most came over. Many were slaves who were valued less than those from Africa. You sir can take your self righteous ass back to England if you have a problem with the people you meet here. You just sound sad and are desperate for legitimacy trying to link your families heritage to an older history, than a post colonial one. But you are entirely right regarding "Irish-Americans" and their struggle within America, and I side with you as far as people saying "I'm 1/4 Irish" but show no recognition for their own heritage until St Patrick's Day, when even then they fail utterly to express their Irishness and use the event to exclude minorities from the parade like gays under the guise of Catholicism when its convenient not realizing that "Irish-Americans" where once ironically a hated minority in your country. No you are the sad cripple bastard. Loyalist culture is complete degeneracy. Most on the isles are ashamed of you. Co cry to someone about your flegs being taken away. haha |
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User ID: 3677166 United States 10/01/2016 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE IRISH SLAVES:WHAT THEY WILL NEVER, EVER TELL YOU IN HISTORY CLASS OR ANYWHERE ELSE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73019511 Most Irish who came to the US were slaves, black slaves were more valuable than the Irish ones, as they were more expensive. [link to radio2hot.wordpress.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73093456 Ireland 10/01/2016 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Irish Americans don't take care of their own, they abused alcohol, feuded. Quoting: private vs public 40756001 The Chinese established each other in businesses, white collar educated their children and have excelled, as a group, together upwardly mobile. Irish Americans in the post war 50's to 70's depended on trade unions to be there for their kids, manufacturingwas gutted and it has left a huge void. The gay Irish in the NY parade was solely a local issue. It was a privately sponsored event, Ancient Order of Hibernians ran the NY Paddy's parade. Chicago never had a single problem with a gay float or marchers, it is a city hosted event, they cannot discriminate. Do you understand the difference? Its a non issue now, the old guard hardline papists have died off. A new day move on laddie You clearly don't know what you're talking about swine. The Irish very much looked out for each other because it was all we had. We stuck together so stop speaking lies. |
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User ID: 69061168 United States 10/01/2016 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE IRISH SLAVES:WHAT THEY WILL NEVER, EVER TELL YOU IN HISTORY CLASS OR ANYWHERE ELSE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73019511 Most Irish who came to the US were slaves, black slaves were more valuable than the Irish ones, as they were more expensive. [link to radio2hot.wordpress.com (secure)] Have you seen this, the Southern Poverty Law Centers attempt at debunking Irish slavery? [link to www.splcenter.org (secure)] It's novel, your meme made me think of it. In case it's lost in translation, I don't agree with the article, just sharing. I even considered basing a thread on it, but it's like a year old. :Cthulhu2016: :SCCSA: The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. - HPL |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68415154 United States 10/01/2016 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Irish Americans don't take care of their own, they abused alcohol, feuded. Quoting: private vs public 40756001 The Chinese established each other in businesses, white collar educated their children and have excelled, as a group, together upwardly mobile. Irish Americans in the post war 50's to 70's depended on trade unions to be there for their kids, manufacturingwas gutted and it has left a huge void. The gay Irish in the NY parade was solely a local issue. It was a privately sponsored event, Ancient Order of Hibernians ran the NY Paddy's parade. Chicago never had a single problem with a gay float or marchers, it is a city hosted event, they cannot discriminate. Do you understand the difference? Its a non issue now, the old guard hardline papists have died off. A new day move on laddie You clearly don't know what you're talking about swine. The Irish very much looked out for each other because it was all we had. We stuck together so stop speaking lies. Please notice that the quoted person called Catholics "Papists". Just so you know how much he knows about the Irish. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68415154 United States 10/01/2016 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Irish and Irish-Americans always want to fight because the have a huge inferiority complex. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69956746 spoken like someone with a micropenis. Irish Americans like to fight because of their <b>Huge</> Irish OAK. We've already established that the OP is not Irish or Irish American at all. He is actually entirely anti-Irish. He is English and Ulster Scots. He has acknowledged that. Catch up. |
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User ID: 3677166 United States 10/01/2016 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE IRISH SLAVES:WHAT THEY WILL NEVER, EVER TELL YOU IN HISTORY CLASS OR ANYWHERE ELSE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73019511 Most Irish who came to the US were slaves, black slaves were more valuable than the Irish ones, as they were more expensive. [link to radio2hot.wordpress.com (secure)] Have you seen this, the Southern Poverty Law Centers attempt at debunking Irish slavery? [link to www.splcenter.org (secure)] It's novel, your meme made me think of it. In case it's lost in translation, I don't agree with the article, just sharing. I even considered basing a thread on it, but it's like a year old. SPLC is an anti-American group of crap, but that said our left can not allow the fact that every group on this planet has suffered slavery and oppression at some point in their history. If that was general and accepted knowledge sympathy and indulgence to the black "experience" would diminish and the entire cottage industry built around ridiculous black grievances would disappear. How many blacks would find themselves "unemployed as a result of that? Two for sure: |
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User ID: 69061168 United States 10/01/2016 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE IRISH SLAVES:WHAT THEY WILL NEVER, EVER TELL YOU IN HISTORY CLASS OR ANYWHERE ELSE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73019511 Most Irish who came to the US were slaves, black slaves were more valuable than the Irish ones, as they were more expensive. [link to radio2hot.wordpress.com (secure)] Have you seen this, the Southern Poverty Law Centers attempt at debunking Irish slavery? [link to www.splcenter.org (secure)] It's novel, your meme made me think of it. In case it's lost in translation, I don't agree with the article, just sharing. I even considered basing a thread on it, but it's like a year old. SPLC is an anti-American group of crap, but that said our left can not allow the fact that every group on this planet has suffered slavery and oppression at some point in their history. If that was general and accepted knowledge sympathy and indulgence to the black "experience" would diminish and the entire cottage industry built around ridiculous black grievances would disappear. How many blacks would find themselves "unemployed as a result of that? Two for sure: Of course not, all part of the agenda. If it's commononly accepted that whites were on the wrong side of the whip so to speak, minorities and the like become less of a special needs group. Then again society as it curently operates, probably couldn't care less even if it was common knowledge. :Cthulhu2016: :SCCSA: The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. - HPL |
Black Irish User ID: 73055592 United States 10/01/2016 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE IRISH SLAVES:WHAT THEY WILL NEVER, EVER TELL YOU IN HISTORY CLASS OR ANYWHERE ELSE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73019511 Most Irish who came to the US were slaves, black slaves were more valuable than the Irish ones, as they were more expensive. [link to radio2hot.wordpress.com (secure)] THE IRISH SLAVES:WHAT THEY WILL NEVER, EVER TELL YOU IN HISTORY CLASS OR ANYWHERE ELSE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73019511 Most Irish who came to the US were slaves, black slaves were more valuable than the Irish ones, as they were more expensive. [link to radio2hot.wordpress.com (secure)] :5-21 Irish: I am a so-called "African-American" and a historian and even I can acknowledge this to be true, as most mixed race American black slave descendants are of Ulster/Scots-Irish descent via "poor white trash" overseers working for wealthy British planters raping African women slaves for over 200 years. Of course, the mulatto offspring and freed black slaves took the surnames of the plantation's owners, the wealthy British. Any black American with an Irish surname is undoubtedly an overseer's offspring's descendant. An Irish "indentured servant" was worth only 5 pence on the insurance dockets for the ships. An African slave was worth 60 pence. Make no mistake, a sickly Irish passenger free or indentured got thrown overboard as they wouldn't fetch a dime at the slave markets or wherever the hell rich white Brits in the colonies purchased their indentured servants from. These so-called "melungeons" have been genetically proven to be the direct descendants of Irish white women and African men (free or enslaved). There were not enough Irish male indentured servants to go around for the numbers of domestic servant Irish women and further more, to be clear. Many of these indentured Irish women were forcibly or willingly "bred" out by their masters to produce mulatto/quadroon women offspring to fetch higher prices in the indentured domestic servant markets, after so many years these blacks were able to purchase freedom or were contractually released (7 years). So much so that Virginia passed anti-miscegenation laws in the late 1600s due to the excessive number of freed mulattoes in the colony. Quite naturally, after being bred-out and having relations with enslaved Africans or Free mulattoes, no Catholic Irishman would touch her and the women were forced to form households with free Africans or mulattoes. The mass of these socially isolated peoples moved into the interior Appalachians and started referring to themselves as the descendants of shipwrecked Portuguese sailors to obfuscate their true origins...as multignerational inbred mulatto/native American peoples. Many of these so-called white people never even knew they had African ancestry until recent DNA testing proved otherwise...as such, they have blended into mainstream white American society for the last 200 years or so. A sad state of affairs really that many Irish-Americans don't like to discuss in polite company. US academics barely touch the subject of "white slavery in the US" in colleges let alone at the K-12 level. However I strongly suggest reading "How the Irish Became White" and "Influence of the Southern Cracker Culture on Black America" for further insight...it will be mind blowing. Basically, the so-called "ghetto negro" of the inner-city is simply emulating the unrefined culture of the lower classed Ulster Scots-Irish whites who toiled alongside them as sharecroppers after slavery. Not much difference between behavior in the housing projects and a trailer park is there? Think about it...and yes I am aware of the difference between an Ulster Scots-Irish and a Hibernian Irishman. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73093456 Ireland 10/01/2016 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE IRISH SLAVES:WHAT THEY WILL NEVER, EVER TELL YOU IN HISTORY CLASS OR ANYWHERE ELSE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73019511 Most Irish who came to the US were slaves, black slaves were more valuable than the Irish ones, as they were more expensive. [link to radio2hot.wordpress.com (secure)] THE IRISH SLAVES:WHAT THEY WILL NEVER, EVER TELL YOU IN HISTORY CLASS OR ANYWHERE ELSE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73019511 Most Irish who came to the US were slaves, black slaves were more valuable than the Irish ones, as they were more expensive. [link to radio2hot.wordpress.com (secure)] :5-21 Irish: I am a so-called "African-American" and a historian and even I can acknowledge this to be true, as most mixed race American black slave descendants are of Ulster/Scots-Irish descent via "poor white trash" overseers working for wealthy British planters raping African women slaves for over 200 years. Of course, the mulatto offspring and freed black slaves took the surnames of the plantation's owners, the wealthy British. Any black American with an Irish surname is undoubtedly an overseer's offspring's descendant. An Irish "indentured servant" was worth only 5 pence on the insurance dockets for the ships. An African slave was worth 60 pence. Make no mistake, a sickly Irish passenger free or indentured got thrown overboard as they wouldn't fetch a dime at the slave markets or wherever the hell rich white Brits in the colonies purchased their indentured servants from. These so-called "melungeons" have been genetically proven to be the direct descendants of Irish white women and African men (free or enslaved). There were not enough Irish male indentured servants to go around for the numbers of domestic servant Irish women and further more, to be clear. Many of these indentured Irish women were forcibly or willingly "bred" out by their masters to produce mulatto/quadroon women offspring to fetch higher prices in the indentured domestic servant markets, after so many years these blacks were able to purchase freedom or were contractually released (7 years). So much so that Virginia passed anti-miscegenation laws in the late 1600s due to the excessive number of freed mulattoes in the colony. Quite naturally, after being bred-out and having relations with enslaved Africans or Free mulattoes, no Catholic Irishman would touch her and the women were forced to form households with free Africans or mulattoes. The mass of these socially isolated peoples moved into the interior Appalachians and started referring to themselves as the descendants of shipwrecked Portuguese sailors to obfuscate their true origins...as multignerational inbred mulatto/native American peoples. Many of these so-called white people never even knew they had African ancestry until recent DNA testing proved otherwise...as such, they have blended into mainstream white American society for the last 200 years or so. A sad state of affairs really that many Irish-Americans don't like to discuss in polite company. US academics barely touch the subject of "white slavery in the US" in colleges let alone at the K-12 level. However I strongly suggest reading "How the Irish Became White" and "Influence of the Southern Cracker Culture on Black America" for further insight...it will be mind blowing. Basically, the so-called "ghetto negro" of the inner-city is simply emulating the unrefined culture of the lower classed Ulster Scots-Irish whites who toiled alongside them as sharecroppers after slavery. Not much difference between behavior in the housing projects and a trailer park is there? Think about it...and yes I am aware of the difference between an Ulster Scots-Irish and a Hibernian Irishman. lol what a load of nonsense. |
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(OP) User ID: 72099278 United Kingdom 10/01/2016 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE IRISH SLAVES:WHAT THEY WILL NEVER, EVER TELL YOU IN HISTORY CLASS OR ANYWHERE ELSE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73019511 Most Irish who came to the US were slaves, black slaves were more valuable than the Irish ones, as they were more expensive. [link to radio2hot.wordpress.com (secure)] THE IRISH SLAVES:WHAT THEY WILL NEVER, EVER TELL YOU IN HISTORY CLASS OR ANYWHERE ELSE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73019511 Most Irish who came to the US were slaves, black slaves were more valuable than the Irish ones, as they were more expensive. [link to radio2hot.wordpress.com (secure)] I am a so-called "African-American" and a historian and even I can acknowledge this to be true, as most mixed race American black slave descendants are of Ulster/Scots-Irish descent via "poor white trash" overseers working for wealthy British planters raping African women slaves for over 200 years. Of course, the mulatto offspring and freed black slaves took the surnames of the plantation's owners, the wealthy British. Any black American with an Irish surname is undoubtedly an overseer's offspring's descendant. An Irish "indentured servant" was worth only 5 pence on the insurance dockets for the ships. An African slave was worth 60 pence. Make no mistake, a sickly Irish passenger free or indentured got thrown overboard as they wouldn't fetch a dime at the slave markets or wherever the hell rich white Brits in the colonies purchased their indentured servants from. These so-called "melungeons" have been genetically proven to be the direct descendants of Irish white women and African men (free or enslaved). There were not enough Irish male indentured servants to go around for the numbers of domestic servant Irish women and further more, to be clear. Many of these indentured Irish women were forcibly or willingly "bred" out by their masters to produce mulatto/quadroon women offspring to fetch higher prices in the indentured domestic servant markets, after so many years these blacks were able to purchase freedom or were contractually released (7 years). So much so that Virginia passed anti-miscegenation laws in the late 1600s due to the excessive number of freed mulattoes in the colony. Quite naturally, after being bred-out and having relations with enslaved Africans or Free mulattoes, no Catholic Irishman would touch her and the women were forced to form households with free Africans or mulattoes. The mass of these socially isolated peoples moved into the interior Appalachians and started referring to themselves as the descendants of shipwrecked Portuguese sailors to obfuscate their true origins...as multignerational inbred mulatto/native American peoples. Many of these so-called white people never even knew they had African ancestry until recent DNA testing proved otherwise...as such, they have blended into mainstream white American society for the last 200 years or so. A sad state of affairs really that many Irish-Americans don't like to discuss in polite company. US academics barely touch the subject of "white slavery in the US" in colleges let alone at the K-12 level. However I strongly suggest reading "How the Irish Became White" and "Influence of the Southern Cracker Culture on Black America" for further insight...it will be mind blowing. Basically, the so-called "ghetto negro" of the inner-city is simply emulating the unrefined culture of the lower classed Ulster Scots-Irish whites who toiled alongside them as sharecroppers after slavery. Not much difference between behavior in the housing projects and a trailer park is there? Think about it...and yes I am aware of the difference between an Ulster Scots-Irish and a Hibernian Irishman. African-American? There is no such thing. If you were born in Africa or are a citizen there, you are African. If you are a citizen of the United States, you are an American. You can't be both you stupid nagger. |
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(OP) User ID: 72099278 United Kingdom 10/01/2016 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm with you man. It's not the idea of being Irish I hate, it's the Mac dickheads that go to "pubs" and get drunk and stupid. They are everywhere here in the Philadelphia area and they make me sick. You guys talking over points of irishness and things going on over there...these half baked paddy mcshitstains here have no clue. Don't defend green beer vomiting assholes Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72163280 Thanks bro. |
Littered Sow User ID: 40756001 United States 10/01/2016 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This YANKEE SWINE, SAYS RE READ THAT Irish *Americans* don't take care of their own, they abused alcohol, feuded. Irish AMERICANS have no unity like the Irish who survived the famine and stayed put Note also, a huge majority of the sex abuse done to kids here was by priests with Irish surnames from 1940's to the 1980's. That is CATHOLIC ON CATHOLIC violence son. No other way to call it. You let us yanks sort the Irish AMERICAN issues out and you go feck off on back to Man city to fix Europe from her impending Muslim doom, okay? The Irish back in Eire resorted to cannibalism once, they may face it again. We may ALL face it if the fecking banksters take down the goddamn globe You clearly don't know what you're talking about swine. The Irish very much looked out for each other because it was all we had. We stuck together so stop speaking lies. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57826801 United States 10/01/2016 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm half Irish and I celebrate St. Patrick's day with some cornbeef and cabbage and soda bread. I acknowledge my Irishness one day a year. It otherwise means nothing to me. Quoting: The Deplorable GLP Effect Seriously I like your style but your fellow "Irish-Americans" well I just can't with their bullshit. Paddy's day bothers me on so many levels because it's not an Independence day celebration. It's a Saint's Day celebration that has been co-opted as Ireland's national day which just furthers your "Irish-American" wankers notion that to be Irish is to be Catholic. Hell no, you American's can fuck off with that idea. Pancake day here is not Shrove's Tuesday anymore, It's just a day when everybody gets over excited about pancakes, and upsets the French by putting lemon juice on them. |
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(OP) User ID: 72099278 United Kingdom 10/01/2016 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm half Irish and I celebrate St. Patrick's day with some cornbeef and cabbage and soda bread. I acknowledge my Irishness one day a year. It otherwise means nothing to me. Quoting: The Deplorable GLP Effect Seriously I like your style but your fellow "Irish-Americans" well I just can't with their bullshit. Paddy's day bothers me on so many levels because it's not an Independence day celebration. It's a Saint's Day celebration that has been co-opted as Ireland's national day which just furthers your "Irish-American" wankers notion that to be Irish is to be Catholic. Hell no, you American's can fuck off with that idea. Pancake day here is not Shrove's Tuesday anymore, It's just a day when everybody gets over excited about pancakes, and upsets the French by putting lemon juice on them. |