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I Fucking Hate "Irish-American" Wankers and their version of "Irishness"

 
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Seeing this people on TV/video/ even meeting them in pubs & bars etc identifying as "Irish-American" is really starting to piss me off.

I will never understand why someone who wasn't born in Ireland, has likely never even visited Ireland and only has a direct relation from that country, some bloody six or seven generations back BUT insists on identifying to an almost psychotic level with that country, WTF?

When I have visited America and been into Irish bars, I have been in some sticky situations with over-identified Irish-Americans going apeshit, threatening violence for me being British (I am half Irish) and for pointing out their hypocrisies and total lack of understanding of what they want to believe is their culture.

Walking into an "Irish-American" bar is like watching the blackest of black comedies with so-called "Irish" whiskey named "Black and Tan" (no doubt purchased and drunk completely unironically right?) I nearly shit myself when I saw it and the "Irish-American" dickheads drinking "Irish Car Bombs" thinking it's something that flies back in the old country.

Someone seriously needs to make a comedy sketch about "Irish Americans" having drinks to drown their sorrows after the Boston bombing, and ordering "Irish car bombs" when they get to the bar.
 Quoting: Just A Heroin Junkie


This is ironically a function of your own lack of cultural awareness. You don't live here and yet you think you understand us better than we do...which is kind of worse than over identifying with ones genetic past.

Americans of Irish ancestry indeed do have distinct cultural and social behavior just as Italians still do; and of course Asian, Hispanic and many other smaller groups of immigrants.

The reason is because Irish were one of the last to show up...after the Brits starved them out of their own country.

I come from a very big Irish family and so does my boyfriend. I grew up on a street of almost exclusively Irish families that lived there since the 1800's. Not one single time in my life have I ever heard a family member talk about Ireland as if they know what its like to live in Ireland.

It's about being "Irish" more than being "from Ireland." K?

We have our own problems to sort out because of the late 19th century traumas, slavery, indentured servitude and robber barons. Remember "Irish need not apply?" That wasn't so long ago and that attitude still persists in some areas.

Since you were not born in America, you are clueless about the psychology of living in a country that was manifested out of thin air and full of nothing but self aware immigrants.

We have zero connection to our ancestry as Britain, Ireland and Scotland do. So, excuse us if we try to hold on to some kind of genetic memory or connection to the past in any way we can.

I have 4 great grandparents from Ireland. I have the photos of their stern Irish faces. You are an ignorant cunt to think that only three generations out, all of that Irish social behavior and tradition would just wash out.

Furthermore, all cultures change over time whether they are mobile or not. Language , clothing, food, etc. all evolve. That is all you are witnessing. What you see here in America IS an evolution from our Irish ancestors. However, time and location do alter traditions or trends. Even trends and traditions are different in Ireland than they were 100 years ago.

To sum up, you are a complete fucking moron who attempted to come off as savvy and bolster yourself by attacking citizens of another country; and you failed miserably.
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The Irish are great until you meet one.....

The Brits are always kunts...
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hiding
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He's a French Canadian, he hates everyone.French people hate French Canadians (mostly.) Kind of how that shit works, I guess.
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Seeing this people on TV/video/ even meeting them in pubs & bars etc identifying as "Irish-American" is really starting to piss me off.

I will never understand why someone who wasn't born in Ireland, has likely never even visited Ireland and only has a direct relation from that country, some bloody six or seven generations back BUT insists on identifying to an almost psychotic level with that country, WTF?

When I have visited America and been into Irish bars, I have been in some sticky situations with over-identified Irish-Americans going apeshit, threatening violence for me being British (I am half Irish) and for pointing out their hypocrisies and total lack of understanding of what they want to believe is their culture.

Walking into an "Irish-American" bar is like watching the blackest of black comedies with so-called "Irish" whiskey named "Black and Tan" (no doubt purchased and drunk completely unironically right?) I nearly shit myself when I saw it and the "Irish-American" dickheads drinking "Irish Car Bombs" thinking it's something that flies back in the old country.

Someone seriously needs to make a comedy sketch about "Irish Americans" having drinks to drown their sorrows after the Boston bombing, and ordering "Irish car bombs" when they get to the bar.
 Quoting: Just A Heroin Junkie


This is ironically a function of your own lack of cultural awareness. You don't live here and yet you think you understand us better than we do...which is kind of worse than over identifying with ones genetic past.

Americans of Irish ancestry indeed do have distinct cultural and social behavior just as Italians still do; and of course Asian, Hispanic and many other smaller groups of immigrants.

The reason is because Irish were one of the last to show up...after the Brits starved them out of their own country.

I come from a very big Irish family and so does my boyfriend. I grew up on a street of almost exclusively Irish families that lived there since the 1800's. Not one single time in my life have I ever heard a family member talk about Ireland as if they know what its like to live in Ireland.

It's about being "Irish" more than being "from Ireland." K?

We have our own problems to sort out because of the late 19th century traumas, slavery, indentured servitude and robber barons. Remember "Irish need not apply?" That wasn't so long ago and that attitude still persists in some areas.

Since you were not born in America, you are clueless about the psychology of living in a country that was manifested out of thin air and full of nothing but self aware immigrants.

We have zero connection to our ancestry as Britain, Ireland and Scotland do. So, excuse us if we try to hold on to some kind of genetic memory or connection to the past in any way we can.

I have 4 great grandparents from Ireland. I have the photos of their stern Irish faces. You are an ignorant cunt to think that only three generations out, all of that Irish social behavior and tradition would just wash out.

Furthermore, all cultures change over time whether they are mobile or not. Language , clothing, food, etc. all evolve. That is all you are witnessing. What you see here in America IS an evolution from our Irish ancestors. However, time and location do alter traditions or trends. Even trends and traditions are different in Ireland than they were 100 years ago.

To sum up, you are a complete fucking moron who attempted to come off as savvy and bolster yourself by attacking citizens of another country; and you failed miserably.
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The Irish are great until you meet one.....

The Brits are always kunts...
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hiding
 Quoting: Vala


He's a French Canadian, he hates everyone.French people hate French Canadians (mostly.) Kind of how that shit works, I guess.
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chuckle

Didn't know that was the stereotype :) The French love us now :)))
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Seeing this people on TV/video/ even meeting them in pubs & bars etc identifying as "Irish-American" is really starting to piss me off.

I will never understand why someone who wasn't born in Ireland, has likely never even visited Ireland and only has a direct relation from that country, some bloody six or seven generations back BUT insists on identifying to an almost psychotic level with that country, WTF?

When I have visited America and been into Irish bars, I have been in some sticky situations with over-identified Irish-Americans going apeshit, threatening violence for me being British (I am half Irish) and for pointing out their hypocrisies and total lack of understanding of what they want to believe is their culture.

Walking into an "Irish-American" bar is like watching the blackest of black comedies with so-called "Irish" whiskey named "Black and Tan" (no doubt purchased and drunk completely unironically right?) I nearly shit myself when I saw it and the "Irish-American" dickheads drinking "Irish Car Bombs" thinking it's something that flies back in the old country.

Someone seriously needs to make a comedy sketch about "Irish Americans" having drinks to drown their sorrows after the Boston bombing, and ordering "Irish car bombs" when they get to the bar.
 Quoting: Just A Heroin Junkie

So I'm 1/4 Irish, 3/4 Scottish, by grandparents, I grew up in England so have an accent local to my upbringing. I met an ardent "Boston/ Irish" IRA supported Catholic guy in the USA and he would have loved to kick my ass, he did not have the balls to try as I'm a bit large and vicious looking, he had much to say about me being the English Oppressor Royalist and all that, blathering on about some crap that never crosses my mind, it is all very WTF ?
I think my grandparents got to England because things were better there,3 Prots and one Catholic, none who did church as far as I know, I just do not get the broad assumptions that are made by the so called Irish catholics, it is very odd. I was not there, none of my family owned slaves. I was also called a Yankee, several times, by rednecks in Florida and a Cracker, by black people in Florida.
How much of life is affected by false assumptions and shitty understandings of history ! Clueless people, ardent about falsehoods and misapprehensions and propaganda.
Scary really, how thick some people are.
Neither he nor I have ever stepped a foot in Ireland or even Scotland. WTF.
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Usually southerners only call someone a 'Yankee' if they are acting like an asshole, or like some kind of better-than-thou smug snob.

Same for blacks calling whites crackers, in normal settings.

I never hear Irish-americans drone on about the English either, and I've been around a ton of them. A lot of Irish in Boston, and New York aren't particularly fond of the English. but most Irish-americans in general have no beef with them.

So if you are in one of their pubs in certain areas you might have gotten less than friendly behavior. It has nothing to do with Irish soil. It has to with a lot of them coming here in more recent history to those already irish areas, and bringing a grudge with them against the English for their shitty treatment of them. Their grandfathers told first hand accounts of the English to their sons and grnadaons, and daughters.

There is a long history of abuse there, and for certain Irish in those areas, they are recent history as well.

So don't act like that is out of the blue, or even normal amongst most Irish Americans. It's not.

In all honesty, it sounds like either this is all made up, or you had problems everywhere you went because you acted like an ass. A LOT of Brits come to the US and even live here, and yet you had these issues everywhere you went?

I'm torn between you being a complete and utter asshole or this being bsflag
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Wanna see fuukked.... goto Nova Scotia, Irish mixed with French.
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Wanna see fuukked.... goto Nova Scotia, Irish mixed with French.
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Tell us more :))
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maybe just chill out with a movie and wonderful cup of hot tea and a crumpet...


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lol, that brings back memories. My living room window was blown the fuck out...Still no deaths and thats all that matters.

The Armdale centre was hated anyways.
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maybe just chill out with a movie and wonderful cup of hot tea and a crumpet...


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lol, that brings back memories. My living room window was blown the fuck out...Still no deaths and thats all that matters.

The Armdale centre was hated anyways.
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Really? OMG!
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Wanna see fuukked.... goto Nova Scotia, Irish mixed with French.
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Tell us more :))
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and then there's NewFoundLand

Drunk, unemployed, peso's

86% Irish ancestery.

Still a pale third behind the Scots and Brits tho...
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There was hope... until we found out Collin Farrell threw the taters into Angelina carp-lips Jolie.
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Wanna see fuukked.... goto Nova Scotia, Irish mixed with French.
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Tell us more :))
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and then there's NewFoundLand

Drunk, unemployed, peso's

86% Irish ancestery.

Still a pale third behind the Scots and Brits tho...
 Quoting: IreTard 72905215


I've never been to Canada but I've cousins there. The Brits are alright. It's like everywhere, some good, some bad.
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I've never been to Canada but I've cousins there. The Brits are alright. It's like everywhere, some good, some bad.



Yeah.... Brits are allright
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There was hope... until we found out Collin Farrell threw the taters into Angelina carp-lips Jolie.
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Your post reminded me of this. I posted it when i came to glp first and was called anti American for it chuckle



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I agree. Both my parents were Irish, and I'm entitled to an Irish passport, but I was born in England and grew up here. I look Irish, but I would consider it presumptuous, and insulting to the people who really live there, to claim 'I am' Irish.

Yet in America, you hear people saying, 'Oh, I'm Irish.' If you ask them what part of Ireland they're from, it turns out they just had one great grandparent originally from there! Lol!
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FUK.... that was good.

Gleeson et al...


Damn I gotta go watch Garda
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FUK.... that was good.

Gleeson et al...


Damn I gotta go watch Garda
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That's hilarious :)))



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I thought only Black Lads are drug dealers.....
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I thought only Black Lads are drug dealers.....
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:giggle:
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Farrell, Neeson, Fassbender... they're all good.

But Gleeson.... above and beyond.
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Stay out of Boston...
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...and Philly
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Farrell, Neeson, Fassbender... they're all good.

But Gleeson.... above and beyond.
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His son has been in a few good films too.
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heard Don Cheadle is half-Irish
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Right there with you OP.
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heard Don Cheadle is half-Irish
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:hestonlaugh:

On his mother's side :)))
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Hinds and Rea another solid pair
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Hinds and Rea another solid pair
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We're all fabulous :)))
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Most of my heritage is Scottish and Irish. They came over around 1800 something. I'm proud of my heritage. It sounds like your more annoyed by stereotypes. Who isn't? Sometimes though, stereotypes are funny. No one has a sense of humor.

Part of my spiritual path believes in honoring our ancestors and etc who are with us even if we move to bum phuck mars.
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I can appreciate to some degree the identification with ones ancestral roots!

But I for one wish mostly to identify with the creator who produced the better qualities found in all of us...regardless of race!
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Seeing this people on TV/video/ even meeting them in pubs & bars etc identifying as "Irish-American" is really starting to piss me off.

I will never understand why someone who wasn't born in Ireland, has likely never even visited Ireland and only has a direct relation from that country, some bloody six or seven generations back BUT insists on identifying to an almost psychotic level with that country, WTF?

When I have visited America and been into Irish bars, I have been in some sticky situations with over-identified Irish-Americans going apeshit, threatening violence for me being British (I am half Irish) and for pointing out their hypocrisies and total lack of understanding of what they want to believe is their culture.

Walking into an "Irish-American" bar is like watching the blackest of black comedies with so-called "Irish" whiskey named "Black and Tan" (no doubt purchased and drunk completely unironically right?) I nearly shit myself when I saw it and the "Irish-American" dickheads drinking "Irish Car Bombs" thinking it's something that flies back in the old country.

Someone seriously needs to make a comedy sketch about "Irish Americans" having drinks to drown their sorrows after the Boston bombing, and ordering "Irish car bombs" when they get to the bar.
 Quoting: Just A Heroin Junkie


This is ironically a function of your own lack of cultural awareness. You don't live here and yet you think you understand us better than we do...which is kind of worse than over identifying with ones genetic past.

Americans of Irish ancestry indeed do have distinct cultural and social behavior just as Italians still do; and of course Asian, Hispanic and many other smaller groups of immigrants.

The reason is because Irish were one of the last to show up...after the Brits starved them out of their own country.

I come from a very big Irish family and so does my boyfriend. I grew up on a street of almost exclusively Irish families that lived there since the 1800's. Not one single time in my life have I ever heard a family member talk about Ireland as if they know what its like to live in Ireland.

It's about being "Irish" more than being "from Ireland." K?

We have our own problems to sort out because of the late 19th century traumas, slavery, indentured servitude and robber barons. Remember "Irish need not apply?" That wasn't so long ago and that attitude still persists in some areas.

Since you were not born in America, you are clueless about the psychology of living in a country that was manifested out of thin air and full of nothing but self aware immigrants.

We have zero connection to our ancestry as Britain, Ireland and Scotland do. So, excuse us if we try to hold on to some kind of genetic memory or connection to the past in any way we can.

I have 4 great grandparents from Ireland. I have the photos of their stern Irish faces. You are an ignorant cunt to think that only three generations out, all of that Irish social behavior and tradition would just wash out.

Furthermore, all cultures change over time whether they are mobile or not. Language , clothing, food, etc. all evolve. That is all you are witnessing. What you see here in America IS an evolution from our Irish ancestors. However, time and location do alter traditions or trends. Even trends and traditions are different in Ireland than they were 100 years ago.

To sum up, you are a complete fucking moron who attempted to come off as savvy and bolster yourself by attacking citizens of another country; and you failed miserably.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68228255

Got to wonder why OP has such a problem with the descendents of immigrant Irish celebrating their heritage in Diaspora...Is it jealousy because he is not really Irish? Nagging guilt over the tyranny of his Orangemen forebears over indigenous Irish? Frustration over the fact that the Irish were not wiped out, but multiplied and flourished in America? Generational anti-Catholic sentiment? Lack of sobriety and a meaningful existence? What is the problem?





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