The Curious Case of Ted Cruz and Jose Medellin

like open borders , tpp, north american union and legalization of illegals?

Cruz is a real Republican and a long time member of the party, beyond that I don't think the Establishment guys like him at all. McConnell, McCain, and Graham hated him because he wouldn't tow the party line those four years in the Senate. Graham even threatened to kill him...later saying it was a joke.

George W. spoke highly of Cruz prior to the Medellin case, so much so he was named Solicitor General of Texas by Greg Abbott, then Attorney General, now Governor, and Rick Perry Governor at the time, but after Cruz refused to bend on the Medellin case to the Bush Admin, George W. Bush and Perry both turned around and endorsed David Dewhurst when he ran against Cruz for the Senate Seat vacated by Kay Bailey Hutchinson.

I think Jeb and the rest of the actual Republican Party recognized that Cruz was their best chance to beat Trump in the delegate race, but that doesn't make him an establishment player.

In his whole career both as Texas Solicitor General, and his four years in the Senate he's been a thorn in the side of the Neocon RINO Establishment, refusing time and time against to put aside his Constitutional Values for the sake of some "political need" of the Party.

But he is still a long time Republican, and Trump is not, which makes Cruz preferable in that regard. However I firmly believe if it comes down to a brokered convention they'll kick Cruz to the curb to get on of their own in there.

Only a professional liar would say such a twisting of the facts.

No wonder you feel at home with Cruz.

More disinformation from the AC Trumptards...

Cruz is strong on immigration, I like his plan much better than Trump's actually. And Cruz was instrumental in holding up the Gang of Eight in the Senate, a move that infuriated the Senate Leadership, Boehner, and Obama.

Cruz has come out publicly and consistently opposed to TPP since the details of the plan came out.

Cruz has never endorsed the NAU, or voted in anyway for anything to do with the NAU.

You can check out his website if you like...all of his positions are there, and they've remained consistent unlike some other Johnny Come Lately "Republicans"...

[link to www.tedcruz.org (secure)]

Name one part that's not fact?

Donald Trump's Bankruptcies:

[link to money.cnn.com]

Donald Trump's Net Worth:

[link to www.investopedia.com]

Donald Trump's Inheritance:

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You cant keep people out without a wall.

Cruz shenanigans with the Visas are well known.

Cruz didnt do anything agaisnt the gang of 8. Eric Cantor beeing primaried was what brought it down. Without this Cruz's visa proposals were gone through with it.

His wife is a big time part of his poltical positions and she worked on the NAU. (she isnt just a wife but a hugely influential person)

All talk no action politician.

Finally a voice of reason instead of a paid shill.

Yeah, you are so dumb, that you don't know that trump was a billionaire long before his father died.

You liar.

Cruze is still a Canuck.

Not eligible.

We do not need a lawyer tard.We need a business man who can make America competitive again

Bullshit, Cruz killed the one of the Gang of Eight bills on Amnesty...

You're not even a good shill

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Really, that's odd because so many of our Founding Father's were attorney's...Adams, Jefferson...

Maybe you'd like to show us where it says that, I don't recall that passage anywhere in the Constitution.

Murder of Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Peña

On June 24, 1993, Jennifer Lee Ertman (August 15, 1978 - June 24, 1993) and Elizabeth Christine Peña (June 21, 1977 - June 24, 1993), Waltrip High School students, were attending a pool party of a friend who lived in the Spring Hill Apartments. The pair realized that they were going to be late returning home and decided to leave the party. In order to meet an 11 p.m. curfew, Ertman and Peña decided to take a 10-minute shortcut to Peña's residence in Oak Forest by following the railroad tracks and then passing through T.C. Jester Park.[1] The girls walked along the White Oak Bayou when they encountered gang members drinking beer after holding a gang initiation.[2] The gang members captured Peña, and Ertman was captured after she ran to her friend as she screamed. Six gang members raped the girls repeatedly. After realizing the girls would identify them, Peter Cantu, a gang leader, ordered the members to kill the girls, so the members strangled them to death.[1] Derrick Sean O'Brien and Raul Villarreal strangled Ertman with a red nylon belt before the belt broke; then the gang members used shoelaces.[1][2] Cantu, José Medellín, and Efrain Perez strangled Peña with shoelaces. The members then stomped on the girls' throats to ensure their deaths.[1]

Cantu, Medellín, Perez, and Villareal then congregated at Cantu's residence, where he lived with his brother, Joe Cantu, and sister-in-law, Christina Cantu. Christina Cantu questioned why Villareal was bleeding and Perez had a bloody shirt. This prompted Medellín to say the gang "had fun," and that details would appear on the news. He then elaborated that he had raped both girls.[3]

Peter Cantu then returned, and divided valuables that had been stolen from the girls. Medellín got a ring with an "E", so he could give it to his girlfriend, Esther. Medellín reported that he had killed a girl, and noted that he would have found it easier with a gun. Derrick Sean O'Brien was videotaped smiling at the scene of the crime. After the gang left, Christina Cantu convinced Joe Cantu to report the crime to police.[4]

Four days after the crime, the bodies were found in the park during hot weather conditions. They were badly decaying, and dental records were used for identification. The medical examiner corroborated that the cause of death was strangulation. All those believed responsible were ultimately arrested. Medellín gave both a written and taped confession.[5][6]
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I love how you continuously call me a liar, then supply no evidence of your contentions, fucking none...

I never said he wasn't a Billionaire before his father passed away, even though Investipedia does, and Forbes did...you made that contention up out of thin air...

But inheriting $200 Million in assets doesn't hurt anyone's pocket book...

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You make my argument for me, ST, and I thank you...In spite of KNOWING that the Bushes are involved in international horse-trading, Ted Cruz accepts Bush endorsement (Jeb) and Bush aid (Neil).

Do you really think that such "assistance" comes free of charge? LOLOL, sweetheart...I do think that the only one with blinders on is you...

I notice that you refuse to address the fact that Cruz has 8 Super PACs of big Washington insiders? Why is that?

Out of all the businesses, corp, LLC that Trump owns only 4 used Ch 11 bankruptcy? Percentage wise that is nothing.

Stop taking taking things out of context SaddleDick. You are worse than the media

Well all political candidates have received money from Super PAC's to date...including Trump, so I don't even understand why that's an issue.

Cruz is an actual Republican, and they acknowledged he was their best chance to beat the Johnny-Come-Lately pseudo-republican Trump. Cruz has been a long time Republican, but he's also been a thorn in their side, first as Texas Solicitor General, then from his Senate seat.

Nothing I've seen in his votes in the Senate, or his positions indicates anything is about to change in his ideology...unlike Trump who changes his ideology every time he goes on TV...

You questioned him being a succesful businessman, you liar.

You just don't like being called out on your lies.

He also did not inherit 200 million, but it was split among the family. Since you know these facts, you are nothing but a liar.

Really, because I know a lot of Billionaire's that have never had a company that took bankruptcy. Then I always hear that no one lost their job, no one lost money...that's all bullshit, thousands of jobs for a single Construction Company were lost when Trump stiffed that company on the building of Trump Plaza in New York. Millions of dollars went unpaid to uncollateralized accounts receivable holders of the companies he owed when he took Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

Everyone acts like it's normal...it's not normal to have four companies take bankruptcy over your life...

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I did question his business success, still do. Four bankruptcies is all I need to prove my point too.

There are different estimates on what he inherited, $40 million to $300 Million NET depending on the appraisal. The tax appraisal gave the lowest estimate of course, that's the one he likes to use, that's the $40 Million, however independent appraisals have gone as high as $300 Million...Net. In any case, he received $200 Million in Assets with an undisclosed amount of Mortgage Debt attached to them. Which is exactly what I said.

You're the liar, you have yet to prove anything you've claimed, I on the other hand have given links time and time again...

In case you missed it, here's the story on his inheritance...

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Last Edited by Saddletramp on 04/09/2016 06:47 PM

Forget the labels "Republican" and "Democrat". The republican party is going against the wishes of their own people. If the people want Trump, the GOP needs to shut the fuck up and give the people Trump. Instead they've been constantly talking shit on the guy and making up rules as they go to keep Trump out. So fuck the GOP.

The best possible candidate would have conservative views on some issues and progressive views on others. It's called balance.

The type of balance you're talking about is just surrender. I don't want that kind of balance, I want a Conservative in office...balance is for people who are placating. I'm not interested in placating to the democrats.

And my opinion is shared by 55 to 65% of other Republicans, because even in the races he's won, Donald has yet to receive over 50% of the vote in any of them. Hell he only won with 36% in Michigan, and that was just a three person race.

Last Edited by Saddletramp on 04/09/2016 06:58 PM

What are you talking about? He was born on Canadian soil, no one disputes that, but he's a Natural Born Citizen of the USA by virtue of his mother being a United States Citizen...

I don't know what Canada calls a child born to two non-Canadian-citizens on their soil, it doesn't even matter, the point is legally he's a Natural Born Citizen of the USA...

You just went full retard there! That's on the growth of gambling and not Trump! All the casinos are closing or will be closing in AC. Apparently, you expect one single casino to remain operating at a profit while all others around it fail? You just gave a horrible example!

Ac was a destination to gamble. There are now places much closer to people to gamble so they don't have to travel to AC.

AC's time has come and gone due to gambling growth in other locations. Trump saw the writing on the wall and cut the losses. What's wrong with that in business? Did you expect him to bleed money when casinos are opening left and right?

How many jobs has Ted Cruz created? How many people has he fired? Has Cruz ever turned dirt and made something viable?

No he hasn't! In fact, Yukon Ted is no better than somebody on welfare! He's expecting the citizens to keep paying him wages. Trump said he'd take $1 to do the same job that Yukon Ted wants to do for $500K.

If you had a business and were bidding out the contract, which bid would you choose? The one that has a history of building assets and will charge you $1 or the company that has never built anything and wants $500K?

Put your business hat on to answer that!

I'd want a business that wasn't going to stiff the shit out of me on accounts receivable...

I don't give a flying fuck if he's in gambling, it's still no excuse for four bankruptcies...

Donald Trump brags about how well his businesses have fared in bankruptcy. And in fact, no major U.S. company has filed for Chapter 11 more than Trump's casino empire in the last 30 years.

[link to money.cnn.com]

Despite high profile examples, including General Motors (GM), Lehman Brothers and most of the nation's major airlines, fewer than 20% of public companies with assets of $1 billion or more have filed for bankruptcy in the last 30 years, according to data from Bankruptcy.com and S&P Capital IQ.

After his last bankruptcy in 2009, his own company kicked him off the board, and though his name is still on Casino's in Atlantic City, he doesn't own them anymore...

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Uruk-Haillary set a very strong precedent for the necessity to also vet First Ladies, don't you think? Look where she is now.

Yeah, but she's 1 out of 45, and she was much more active as a "Partner" almost in Bill's campaign. They even said she was going to have a big policy role. Since then Laura and Michelle have gone back to pet social issues. There's no indication yet out of the Cruz camp that Heidi is going to have a major policy role like Hillary did.