e-cigss causing MORE cancer than traditional cigarettes?

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So tired of everything being bad for you these days. Hell, it seems every damn thing is bad for us, cig's , food, drinks, air, might as well just do nothing, starve ourselves, and say the hell with it.

What the hell is going on with people complaining about what we consume these days! It has become so insane that we might as well starve and eat and do nothing and become mindless zombies. They tax the hell out of us for everything. So sick of it. As far as I am concerned, this damn world has become a living nightmare. Peeps can't mind their own damned business anymore, especially our governments, which are a joke!

Rabid?....yes. You are acting like a complete asshole about it. This is from a neutral observer. You are acting as if you have an agenda.

Darwin.

Waht? It's almost always inhaled. what are you talking about?

In my experience E-cig can cure or prevent common cold and maybe even flu.

It has been already a few months since I started to smoke e-cigs and before then I used to be a person who caught cold or flu almost every month in every winter. Now all the cold and flu are completely gone and I am disease free. I am healthier than ever.

I know nicotine kills viruses, germs and bacteria and American Indians used to use tobacco for curing cold and flu as a kind of medicine. Modern day cigarettes are made of all other unhealthy ingredients together with tobacco. On the other hand, e-cig contains quite pure nicotine form extracted from tobacco. This is I think the reason.

I tried one last summer, at the very same time my son tried it too, within 3 days we had respiratory problems that came on like flu, and turned out to be the longest bout of flu either of us EVER had, mine lasted 3 months, and it finished with a chesty + tickly cough that wouldn't shift.

We weren't sure whather it was the Ecig, but neither of us touched it after we first felt this coming on, because both of us almost subconsciously attributed it to the ecig

I suspect the cause may be shitty e-liquid. E-liquid have tons of different classes, many of which are just liquid of shit and whose smell are just as same shit smell as real shit. Mine are directly impoted from Vancouver, Canada and they use 100% vegi glicerin from the real vegitables, not chemically composited.

breathing in motor fumes is worse than e-cogs.

E-cigs seem to be a great way to stop smoking. All these anti-ecig tards...do you not want people to try and stop? ffs.

cant bloody win with some tards, You can go back to drinking your 5 cans of suda a day and critisise everyone elses lifestyles.

here ya go this is the actual one

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Sealed unit, and it was menthol

I haven't had a "analog" cig in almost a week. I do believe e cigs are a great, but not completely safe alternative.
I have had some affects. No more chest congestion, I breath easier and food tastes good again. If I get cancer it will be from the pack a day for the last 17 years not the e cigs.
Also the e juice I use is made in the USA and with all natural 100% VG and 6mg nic. I also know people that vape all day for the last 3 years and as far as I know that are as healthy as can be, so I call b.s. on higher cancer from e cigs.

Vape on some " Mothers milk" it's awesome.

My Mother smoked at least 2 packs a day for 53 years from the age of 14 to 67. Gave up and took to the vaporizer and was dead from lung cancer within a year. Nuff said.

Guys, this is BS propaganda from the tobacco lobby. Unless they're spiking the e-liquid with toxins, its almost impossible for e-cigs to be worse.

They're scared of e-cig companies killing their profits. I'll take my e-liquid with its 3 ingredients over burning tobacco any day.

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That is a recent study done. Tobacco comps hate the we Vape, because they have been loosing billions, they put out propaganda and are behind the new laws and taxes trying to be applied to vaping. They hate it. Vaping is safer than cigs, I mean Vaping, not the little e cigs from sold at gas stations those probably are bad. All these nay says just havent done real research.

And you are at the top of that list!

It seems no matter what we consume these ..many products and foodstuffs are tainted with chemicals and agents that are not exactly healthy for us...so it is just a matter of picking your poison.

As funnily even the environment and air quality isnt all that healthy and pure these days....so it just pointless nit picking.

Exactly.

Smoking 2 packs a day for 53 years will give you lung cancer. Point taken.

People go on about all sorts being bad for you then continue to use the most lethal substance in common use - sugar!

Exactly.

Smoking 2 packs a day for 53 years will give you lung cancer. Point taken.


Thanks for the confirmation ya wanker. You're all heart. Let's hope it never happens to you.

Thanks for the confirmation ya wanker. You're all heart. Let's hope it never happens to you.


You're the one who put it out there. And it's true.

Your anger is misplaced.

You're doing it wrong....

You know what's one of the biggest scams with commercial cigaretttes? How fast they burn.... If you've ever rolled your own cigs with rolling papers of your own choosing - those cigs can last twice as long as commercial cigs.... Much slower burn.... They want your $$$, they want you to have to re-purchase packs as frequently as possible...

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Material Safety Data Sheet
Propylene glycol MSDS

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MSDS Glycerol



Product Name: Propylene Glycol Industrial Grade Issue Date: 08/01/2012
Print Date: 02 Aug 2012


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Material is practically non-toxic to aquatic organisms on an acute basis (LC50/EC50/EL50/LL50 >100
mg/L in the most sensitive species tested).
Fish Acute & Prolonged Toxicity
LC50, Oncorhynchus mykiss (rainbow trout), static test, 96 h: 40,613 mg/l
Aquatic Invertebrate Acute Toxicity
LC50, Ceriodaphnia Dubia (water flea), static test, 48 h: 18,340 mg/l
Aquatic Plant Toxicity
ErC50, Pseudokirchneriella subcapitata (green algae), Growth rate inhibition, 96 h: 19,000 mg/l
Toxicity to Micro-organisms
NOEC, no data available; Pseudomonas putida, 18 h: > 20,000 mg/l
Aquatic Invertebrates Chronic Toxicity Value
Ceriodaphnia Dubia (water flea), semi-static test, 7 d, number of offspring, NOEC: 13020 mg/l

An LD50 is a standard measurement of acute toxicity that is stated in milligrams (mg) of pesticide per kilogram (kg) of body weight. An LD50 represents the individual dose required to kill 50 percent of a population of test animals (e.g., rats, fish, mice, cockroaches).

Whyquit.com

Get a life, y'all.

looks like a bogus website/article

if its true, he would be the first known victim.

ecigs have been around 11 years...and only in the last 4 years have gotten more popular

Acute Toxicity
Ingestion
LD50, rat > 20,000 mg/kg
Dermal
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LD50, rabbit > 2,000 mg/kg
Inhalation
No deaths occurred at this concentration. LC50, 2 h, Aerosol, rabbit 317.042 mg/l
Eye damage/eye irritation
May cause slight temporary eye irritation. Corneal injury is unlikely. Mist may cause eye irritation.
Skin corrosion/irritation
Prolonged contact is essentially nonirritating to skin. Repeated contact may cause flaking and
softening of skin.
Sensitization
Skin
Did not cause allergic skin reactions when tested in humans.
Respiratory
No relevant data found.
Repeated Dose Toxicity
In rare cases, repeated excessive exposure to propylene glycol may cause central nervous system
effects.
Chronic Toxicity and Carcinogenicity
Did not cause cancer in laboratory animals.
Developmental Toxicity
Did not cause birth defects or any other fetal effects in laboratory animals.
Reproductive Toxicity
In animal studies, did not interfere with reproduction. In animal studies, did not interfere with fertility.
Genetic Toxicology
In vitro genetic toxicity studies were negative. Animal genetic toxicity studies were negative

problem is wick material, not e-liquid. here a video about it, brand is aspire nautilus

atomizer part start 12:51. you have to watch 3 min and you will get problem.