e-cigss causing MORE cancer than traditional cigarettes?

propaganda

there's no tar, the formaldehyde is several times lower than reg cigs, lots of other things that make this bunk.

of course Big tobacco is scared, ecigs is disrupting their industry

Smoking: 480,000 deaths annually (per CDC)
Vaping: 0 deaths annually

Obvious conclusion: Vaping is causing more deaths and cancer than smoking.

Genius...

MSM. Fear. Panic. Money.

oh right, like cigarettes don't have anything artificially created in them.

rattlesnake venom is natural, and it'll fucking kill you

yeah, like Arsenic

You're right.

There's Propylene Glycol, Vegetable Glycerin, Nicotine, and flavoring.

The flavoring is derived from food flavoring, so whatever that has in it as well.

But you could make the liquid from a trip to walgreens and the grocery store. If you wanted flavorless and nic free vape you could just do it from a Walgreens or whatever.

In any event ALL the ingredients except the nic are FDA approved for human consumption. Inhalation? That's another story, no one knows precisely.

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there is no tar. you may be getting staining for something, but it's not from tar in an ecig.

let me break it down for you slow people.....


how many chemical in a cigarette ?

how many in e-cig Juice..?


now shut the fuck up


cigs are more dangerous
end of story

says who? You?
You know what they say about opinions right?

further more if you can use anything other then analog cigarettes to try and help you quit them ....


more power to you my friend



i smoked from 14 till i was 31 and now i dont anymore....

i was able to get off them with the help of E-Cig
and nicotene patches ... and now i very rarely even smoke my e-cig .......



so by whatever means you need to quit go for it ....

e-cig-3 chemicals

analog-4000


pretty simple math

The main cause of death is birth. 50 years from now will any of you really give a fuck?

I smoked cigs for 47 years and tried everything to stop. I haven't smoked a cig now for 13 months thanks to e-cigs and now I can breath without coughing up pieces my lungs.

oh and by the way i wouldnt take the opinions of people who claim ISON was going to kill us or that Niburu is an actual place.....

these people couldnt manualy count a pulse and watch a clock at the same time....

i infact found Niburu and i have proof bitches

iLL post it too gime 2 minuets

^ this is really the only statement this thread needs. comparing the 2 is like comparing falling 10 feet or 100 feet. both are probably gonna hurt you, but one is obviously going to do far more damage

speaking on formaldehyde, keep sucking down the decaf coffee if you really want some!

Good Lord! vaping and weed cause cancer?! What doesn't????? Do you like being parked behind a diesel city bus at a stoplight? Is there anything that we're not exposed to that isn't a carcinogen?

sons of bitch i cant post pictures what the fuck :(


anyway just type in Zelda 2 Niburoo and youll see it



i took a screen shot but this stupid thing wont allow to pst personal pictures

I didn't read this whole thread... So forgive me if this has been brought up already.

But the article raises good points about temperature levels. The DNA-40 mod chip along with nickel wire now has temperature control. A first for e-cigs.

I have one and am still learning about it before I go full bore into it.

Just wanted to bring this up for anyone looking for a way to quit. The technology is obviously still young. The big-tobacco can be suspect at altering the interpretation of any newly discovered information.

If you really are interested in this subject, start here:

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Don't know what happened to my post, but

That is a fake website people! Search any of those articles and it only leads to infossip.

unpin this shit!

I'm not arguing vaping is harmless because I have no idea. Too many factor like wick material\liquid\metals,ect. I haven't heard of any horror stories in 3 years I've vaped on any forum dedicated to e-cigs and these forums aren't censored. They have sections for any health problems, ect. One person experienced a collapse lung and there was thread about it. Was it related to vaping? Who knows? But the thread was allowed and encouraged because we all want the most info(even anecdotal) regarding e-cigs and vaping

The least of my concerns is formaldehyde.

Combustion creates formaldehyde. Burning tobacco will and does create formaldehyde.

Anyone who vapes would never vape burnt liquid intentionally. With a mod you have much better control over watts\voltage for different ohm coils. I think mods are much better than the standard batteries because you can tailor your vape to exactly the best voltage\watts for each coil's resistance.

I don't know how the extremely high watts affects the vapor but it comes down to extreme heat regarding formaldehyde. Maybe more out gassing of metals? No idea

The usual non mod batteries like the Ego-T run at 3.7 volts with many having variable voltage to 4.2v.

I could crank my mod up to 6.9v\30watts with this 1.6ohm coil but no sane person would ever do that. I doubt the coil would survive anyway. I doubt it would survive at 5v\15.7w for very long. Anything above 4.3v\11.5w on this 1.6ohm coil begins to taste burnt. Not a very pleasant way to vape.

I vape at mid 4.1v @ 10.8w(on this coil 4.1v range is 10.4w-11.1w) thru a 1.6 ohm coil and the vape production is great and the flavor is very good. I also use a tank with adjustable air which dilutes the vape a bit if i wish.

If you're over heating your equipment(coil\liquid) you'll run thru coils like crazy and you'll quit vaping because the taste will be absolutely horrible. lol

Big Tobacco has the money to buy up the new e-cig companies - and that's exactly what they've been doing.

DNA 30

also i dont know if you notice but there are no warning sighns on the eLiquid or devices :)


so if they do indeed fuck us up....

thats perfect entry for a huge multi million or billion dollar lawsuit....


did you catch that ????



theres no warning labels



this what you call a win win situation...

great they helped you quit smoking the tar sticks....

fuck even better i just sued and won 80 million cause those stupid fucks didnt put warning labels on thier shit .....


see what i figured out there

thats like McDOnalds not warning people thier coffeee is hot



gee i thought coffeee never got hot mommy ????


fuck........


fair game

You are doing far more damage by consuming diet soda and low fat meals.

Agreed.

30 year smoker here. I vaped about two years. It will help you quit. It made my chest hurt.

I buy Prince Albert at $3/bag. Pure burley. Papers are 50 for $1 or so. I smoke two or three per day.

For a big nic hit, I use nasal snuff which is safest of all.

ium just glad people are smart enough when there being lied too....

and smart enough to know the truth when they see hear or research it.....


theyve spent the last 20 years destroying the handshake and I give you my word.....



but i believe after we remove these scum ... maybe trust can return 1 day ... till then ...

we can help each other out ...

cause thats whats True muther fukin Gs do

Who knows, but anyone that thinks sucking anything down your lungs but air is healthy is lying to themselves.

If e-cigs are better than tobacco? I'd say most likely yes, but otoh, the substances used in e-cigs are only classified as ok for human consumption as in digesting it, not inhaling it.

And while carbon is harmless to eat (and might even be beneficial in cases of poisoning etc), there are plenty of coal miners that proves that inhaling it is not.

So... the jury is still out on the e-cig, while I personally believe it is far less harmful than tobacco, only a fool would think there is no health riscs connected to it.