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EXCLUSIVE: Crash Witness Says Tony Stewart Could Not Have Avoided Hitting Other Driver

 
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Of COURSE, we always use the same lines with all you shills who keep spouting off statements of "fact" without providing any proof!! You've lost all credibility!!

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If we really are Tony shills then we are very bad shills because we have not "pinned" one pro-Tony thread yet. Meanwhile I have seen 4 "Tony is a murderer" threads pinned.

So who are the real shills here? The "Fat Tony is a murderer" haters?


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True that! And another one pinned as we speak. Green pinned, so "they" are trying very, very hard.... LOL!!

I'm cool, though! I'm not one to "worry" if my threads are 1-starred, or not pinned. Way more important things in life!!

hf
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Hey OP having a difficult time understading what you say with Tony Stewart's cock so far down your throat!

Spit it out of the inside of the box!
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This the very best the Tony haters can come up with. Pathetic.

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LOL! AS another poster said on a different thread last night:

I don't know why they're using Alinsky Tactics on a Tony Stewart thread...

It seems obvious to me, though: Their motive is hatred, not evidence. And since they can't provide any, they have to resort to name-calling and insults!
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Wither he is charged or not his image is shot.
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Tony attempted to spray the kid with dirt. This is common amongst dirt trackers( my old man was a race car driver for thirty years including sprints and midgets; so stick your " I don't know shit comments" ). Tony should have sucked it up been the bigger man and ignored it. He didn't and now should have to pay.
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No he didn't. He hit the throttle to cause the car to move out of the way. That's how a sprint car dodges something, they have to speed up a little to fishtail out of the way.
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Wither he is charged or not his image is shot.
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but they seem to think bashing a dead kid will fix that problem.
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Wither he is charged or not his image is shot.
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If he is declared to be innocent of any wrongdoing, as he has so far been, that is unfortunately true. Hope he's invested a lot of his money. I have also wondered if the racing teams will suffer, too.
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Watched about FOUR of them more times than you probably watched ONE of them!! You made the statement, burden of proof is on YOU!!

Oh wait!! You can't!

As far as any camera, I don't know if there WAS one or not. But if there WAS one, the investigators have known about it from the start, and I rely on THEM to conduct their investigation to the fullest of their ability.
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Wow, you guys always use the same lines don't you with your burden of proof demands? lol You're so predictable. Can you guys be any less obvious? The original video is there, go watch it and compare what I said.

So you watched four videos? From a different angle? Why don't you post them for us? What are you waiting for? I and probably others would love to see them.
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Of COURSE, we always use the same lines with all you shills who keep spouting off statements of "fact" without providing any proof!! You've lost all credibility!!

I've posted videos and evidence in other threads, I'm sure you've already seen them. If and when I make a statement that I need to back up with proof, I will. Cuz I'M not AFRAID to - unlike you!!
 Quoting: ThinkOutsideTheBox


No credibility with you buddy, you're either too lazy to look it up yourself, or you already know that it's true.

So where are those four videos? There is only one to my knowledge showing the homicide. Are there others? Feel free to post.
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No four videos to post?

Just as I expected, crickets, I hear crickets...





It would be really easy for you to convince me that Tony Stewart is innocent if he genuinely was innocent and if you have videos to prove it, but there is nothing there and you have nothing...

TONY STEWART - GUILTY

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Wither he is charged or not his image is shot.
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but they seem to think bashing a dead kid will fix that problem.
 Quoting: Boris the Animal


It makes him look much worse. Stupid PR people, you should be ashamed for yourselves.
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Aaawww... What's the matter, guys? Your very own thread too boring??
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Can someone please explain what Tony Stewart was supposedly angry about. That seems to be the crux for why he hit the other driver. Why was He angry?

The kid is the one that had a tire go down, causing him to spin into the wall. Also everyone keeps claiming that Tony "Bumped" Kevin into the wall when he clearly has a tire down in the video.

But what did Tony have to be angry about?
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Can someone please explain what Tony Stewart was supposedly angry about. That seems to be the crux for why he hit the other driver. Why was He angry?

The kid is the one that had a tire go down, causing him to spin into the wall. Also everyone keeps claiming that Tony "Bumped" Kevin into the wall when he clearly has a tire down in the video.

But what did Tony have to be angry about?
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fat tony has some bitterness to young kid drivers, a fact you can be certain factors into an investigation
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Can someone please explain what Tony Stewart was supposedly angry about. That seems to be the crux for why he hit the other driver. Why was He angry?

The kid is the one that had a tire go down, causing him to spin into the wall. Also everyone keeps claiming that Tony "Bumped" Kevin into the wall when he clearly has a tire down in the video.

But what did Tony have to be angry about?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51058629

I seriously doubt Tony knew what had happened on the last lap. All he knew was a yellow flag condition existed on the race track. The only person mad was Ward jr. Tony was just driving his car minding his own business.


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Tony needs to stop racing with people who are generally way below his skill level.
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Tony needs to stop racing with people who are generally way below his skill level.
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That is very true. I have wondered why he even bothers with sprint cars. He doesn't need the money which is chump change to him.

The only reason I can think of is he likes sprint cars and wanted to give young drivers the chance to compete against a high level driver. Nah....couldn't be that as I'm sure the Tony haters will inform me what the real reason is.
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Tony needs to stop racing with people who are generally way below his skill level.
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That is very true. I have wondered why he even bothers with sprint cars. He doesn't need the money which is chump change to him.

The only reason I can think of is he likes sprint cars and wanted to give young drivers the chance to compete against a high level driver. Nah....couldn't be that as I'm sure the Tony haters will inform me what the real reason is.
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NASCAR rules and sizes of the tracks have made most of the races boring grueling events. I doubt for the most part it is any fun at all for Tony. He's a racer and likes to race. Most local track sprint races are short and intense. That's why he races at them. He even owns a dirt track, Eldora Speedway.
"Everybody lies."
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Can someone please explain what Tony Stewart was supposedly angry about. That seems to be the crux for why he hit the other driver. Why was He angry?

The kid is the one that had a tire go down, causing him to spin into the wall. Also everyone keeps claiming that Tony "Bumped" Kevin into the wall when he clearly has a tire down in the video.

But what did Tony have to be angry about?
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fat tony has some bitterness to young kid drivers, a fact you can be certain factors into an investigation
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That's just downright stupid!
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Wonder how much Tonys Sponsors and Stewart paid to get someone to validate Stewart?
Blood money 101
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Let see the 2nd tape???????????
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Bullshit!
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Tony attempted to spray the kid with dirt. This is common amongst dirt trackers( my old man was a race car driver for thirty years including sprints and midgets; so stick your " I don't know shit comments" ). Tony should have sucked it up been the bigger man and ignored it. He didn't and now should have to pay.
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You could hear him "gun" his engine at the last minute, and maybe misjudged how close he was, but he has to take some blame IMHO.
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Can someone please explain what Tony Stewart was supposedly angry about. That seems to be the crux for why he hit the other driver. Why was He angry?

The kid is the one that had a tire go down, causing him to spin into the wall. Also everyone keeps claiming that Tony "Bumped" Kevin into the wall when he clearly has a tire down in the video.

But what did Tony have to be angry about?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51058629


fat tony has some bitterness to young kid drivers, a fact you can be certain factors into an investigation
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That's just downright stupid!
 Quoting: ThinkOutsideTheBox


really? do you even know anything about this fat tony?


he attacks young drivers often, his previous attacks and comments will be scrutinized by cops and prosecutor

again, goes to intent, like removing the gopro, that also shows intent
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2 things I'd like to point out

1) Cory Sparks and Tony Stewart BOTH have
the same sponsors, therefore Cory is going
to have Tony's back

2) video of the incident shows Tony's car
swerving right instead of swerving left,
meaning he swerved into Ward intentionally.
This is evident by reflected lights and shadows on
the front tires of Tony's car. When one
swerves right, the front of the tires
go inward and loses light making it disappear
on video. This is what we see on Tony's
car. Ward was on the right side of Tony's
path and Tony swerved right to hit him.
You can also tell by the angle of the bumper.
making a left swerve should have turned the angle
of the bumper counter clockwise. the angle
of the bumper was increasing clockwise,
meaning swerving right. the video does not lie.

Tony is guilty and this will be proven in court.
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Hey, where's the footage??.... ah right, I forgot..... "they can not show it" but we just have to take their word for it, ain't that so?
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anyone that knows anything about racing knows you NEVER walk out on the track...
“The world doesn't make sense until you force it to.”
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2 things I'd like to point out

1) Cory Sparks and Tony Stewart BOTH have
the same sponsors, therefore Cory is going
to have Tony's back

2) video of the incident shows Tony's car
swerving right instead of swerving left,
meaning he swerved into Ward intentionally.
This is evident by reflected lights and shadows on
the front tires of Tony's car. When one
swerves right, the front of the tires
go inward and loses light making it disappear
on video. This is what we see on Tony's
car. Ward was on the right side of Tony's
path and Tony swerved right to hit him.
You can also tell by the angle of the bumper.
making a left swerve should have turned the angle
of the bumper counter clockwise. the angle
of the bumper was increasing clockwise,
meaning swerving right. the video does not lie.

Tony is guilty and this will be proven in court.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44180217


Well said. Fat Tony veered several feet to the right.
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so does fat tony pay good to bash Kevin Ward?
 Quoting: Boris the Cat


In a 1949 case that Yung uses in his class, midget car racer Joseph Sostilio was found guilty of manslaughter after he tried to squeeze a four foot-wide vehicle through a two-foot opening at 40 mph, crashing into another car and sending it into the one driven by Stephen D. Bishop. Bishop’s car flipped three times and he was killed.

Sostilio’s conviction was upheld on appeal by the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court. Noting that a violent or aggressive act on a football field or in a boxing ring is not necessarily a crime, Justice Henry Tilton Lummus wrote: ‘‘In the present case physical contact was not an essential part of the racing of automobiles.’’

That was a half-century ago, and racing has changed. Trading paint is a part of the sport, and it’s not even uncommon these days for racers to leave their cars to confront rivals after a crash, which Ward appeared to be doing when he was killed.

‘‘In sports we tend to allow all sorts of conduct we'd never allow in another circumstance,’’ Yung said. ‘‘But this isn’t a collision. It’s not in that ballpark; it’s something you don’t expect. This is a more complicated scenario. We’re assuming Stewart didn’t mean to do this, and yet a death resulted.’’


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2 things I'd like to point out

1) Cory Sparks and Tony Stewart BOTH have
the same sponsors, therefore Cory is going
to have Tony's back

2) video of the incident shows Tony's car
swerving right instead of swerving left,
meaning he swerved into Ward intentionally.
This is evident by reflected lights and shadows on
the front tires of Tony's car. When one
swerves right, the front of the tires
go inward and loses light making it disappear
on video. This is what we see on Tony's
car. Ward was on the right side of Tony's
path and Tony swerved right to hit him.
You can also tell by the angle of the bumper.
making a left swerve should have turned the angle
of the bumper counter clockwise. the angle
of the bumper was increasing clockwise,
meaning swerving right. the video does not lie.

Tony is guilty and this will be proven in court.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44180217


Well said. Fat Tony veered several feet to the right.
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Don't know the guys and couldn't give a rats ass about racing but.....

When I saw the video I thought WTF was the guy doing walking out on the track like that...I mean sheesh...
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Yeah Tony is not at fault here, you get into the boxing ring and die from a broken neck, will the other guy goto jail? NO! You get on the football field and break your neck, will the other player who made the hit go to jail, NO! You walk down on a race track with cars still going 60-100 mph,and you break your neck and back and you die, the other racer goes to jail? NO!





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