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EXCLUSIVE: Crash Witness Says Tony Stewart Could Not Have Avoided Hitting Other Driver

 
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what a dismal failure of a PR effort, there was plenty of decent fat tony stories, yet True Speed chose to bash Kevin Ward.


baffling, i can recall a story about fat tony doing something nice for cancer kids, why didn't they post that shit instead of hateful insults before the kid was even buried?


if it wasn't for fat tony's previous acts this would have been called a supermoon induced tragic conspiracy around here, yet the PR team still doesn't understand this.


my predication is a charge will be filed, whatever NY calls the lowest form of manslaughter
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what a dismal failure of a PR effort, there was plenty of decent fat tony stories, yet True Speed chose to bash Kevin Ward.


baffling, i can recall a story about fat tony doing something nice for cancer kids, why didn't they post that shit instead of hateful insults before the kid was even buried?


if it wasn't for fat tony's previous acts this would have been called a supermoon induced tragic conspiracy around here, yet the PR team still doesn't understand this.


my predication is a charge will be filed, whatever NY calls the lowest form of manslaughter
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Any decision not to prosecute would indicate corruption.
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FUCK TONY STEWART AND HIS SPONSORS!
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Tony attempted to spray the kid with dirt. This is common amongst dirt trackers( my old man was a race car driver for thirty years including sprints and midgets; so stick your " I don't know shit comments" ). Tony should have sucked it up been the bigger man and ignored it. He didn't and now should have to pay.
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I agree. Tony is considered one of the worlds best drivers or at least that what the announcers always say during the Sprint Cup races. Tony has raced thousands of races on dirt ovals.

Look at it this way. Tony just ran a driver up the track and into the wall which brings out the caution. Tony knows the caution is out. He knows why the caution is out. He knows this driver that just got taken out by him is going to be pissed. Tony knew he was out of his car. Where did Tony ever touch the brake. No brake, but you hear him accelerate. He meant to throw dirt at Kevin and it failed horribly.

Race fans should be reviewing old races that are on video from all the dirt tracks where shit like this has happened with Tony Stewart. I bet you would find some holy shit near misses. This time it didn't work for him.

I worked at one of the fastest asphalt 1/4 tracks on a safety crew for 9 years. My opinion is Tony could've easily avoided this incident, because he is one of the best at what he been doing his whole life.
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Tony attempted to spray the kid with dirt. This is common amongst dirt trackers( my old man was a race car driver for thirty years including sprints and midgets; so stick your " I don't know shit comments" ). Tony should have sucked it up been the bigger man and ignored it. He didn't and now should have to pay.
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And you saw this, WHERE, exactly? It's certainly not in the videos....

And, btw, I'll take an eyewitness over a troll like you any day!! So stick YOUR "don't know shit comments".
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Fuck you because I preempted your typical response. As for seeing it , it's all right there Fatso guns the throttle the rear end kicks out and he hits the kid. Was the kid right no but neither was joke.
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Ah the depths of mental illness on this board run deep at times. It's a shame because there are some brilliant sane people here that get lost in the shuffle.
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Tony attempted to spray the kid with dirt. This is common amongst dirt trackers( my old man was a race car driver for thirty years including sprints and midgets; so stick your " I don't know shit comments" ). Tony should have sucked it up been the bigger man and ignored it. He didn't and now should have to pay.
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I agree. Tony is considered one of the worlds best drivers or at least that what the announcers always say during the Sprint Cup races. Tony has raced thousands of races on dirt ovals.

Look at it this way. Tony just ran a driver up the track and into the wall which brings out the caution. Tony knows the caution is out. He knows why the caution is out. He knows this driver that just got taken out by him is going to be pissed. Tony knew he was out of his car. Where did Tony ever touch the brake. No brake, but you hear him accelerate. He meant to throw dirt at Kevin and it failed horribly.

Race fans should be reviewing old races that are on video from all the dirt tracks where shit like this has happened with Tony Stewart. I bet you would find some holy shit near misses. This time it didn't work for him.

I worked at one of the fastest asphalt 1/4 tracks on a safety crew for 9 years. My opinion is Tony could've easily avoided this incident, because he is one of the best at what he been doing his whole life.
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I think the only way he would have avoided this is if he would have stopped completely on the track before the corner. Ward Jr. for the slo mo video out there, appears to try to grab the car as it passed.
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Cory Sparks points out the good things Tony did

get your daily dose of Tony shills now
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Investigators have now reviewed two videos of the incident. Povero said they show two different angles of Ward walking on the track after a crash at turn two on the 14th lap, and then being hit by Stewart's winged sprint car.
"From what I saw, Tony did everything in his power to turn down away from Kevin to avoid him," said sprint car driver Cory Sparks. - See more at: [link to rochester.twcnews.com]

Sparks was just a few cars behind Stewart during Saturday's race. He said videos that have been posted online do not give an accurate picture of what happened. - See more at: [link to rochester.twcnews.com]
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I see no conspiracy I. This...why the hell is this shit on here?
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Investigators have now reviewed two videos of the incident. Povero said they show two different angles of Ward walking on the track after a crash at turn two on the 14th lap, and then being hit by Stewart's winged sprint car.
"From what I saw, Tony did everything in his power to turn down away from Kevin to avoid him," said sprint car driver Cory Sparks. - See more at: [link to rochester.twcnews.com]

Sparks was just a few cars behind Stewart during Saturday's race. He said videos that have been posted online do not give an accurate picture of what happened. - See more at: [link to rochester.twcnews.com]
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I see no conspiracy in this...why the hell is this shit on here?
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Utter hogwash.

Professional drivers are highly trained in safety protocol. I saw nothing about Tony Stewart's actions that showed he was following safety protocol, and nevermind the other driver, because the focus here is on Tony Stewart.

Stewart wrecked Ward into the wall and he knew it, the CAUTION was up, Stewart was supposed to slow way down and he didn't, he knew damn well what he was doing as he stepped on the throttle running into Ward. He could have so very easily avoided Ward it's not even funny.

Stewart has plenty of money to buy off people to lie for him, which I believe is exactly what's going on here.

A regular person would never get away with something like this, so neither should Tony Stewart, Stewart should get no special favors.

The best they can do is make an example out of him. Tony Stewart should be charged with Homicide or Manslaughter and never allowed to race again.
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anyone that knows anything about racing knows you NEVER walk out on the track...
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That's amusing, you must not know much about racing yourself, because they all do it, including Tony Stewart.
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And to think that the shill army here on GLP that know jackshit about auto racing was ready to send Stewart to the electric chair based on some dark, grainy video taken from 100yards away. Not one single fact or eye witness account backs up their allegations but they just keep repeating their bullshit over and over in hopes that it will become the "common knowledge" associated with the incident. What a disgusting bunch!

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Can someone please explain what Tony Stewart was supposedly angry about. That seems to be the crux for why he hit the other driver. Why was He angry?

The kid is the one that had a tire go down, causing him to spin into the wall. Also everyone keeps claiming that Tony "Bumped" Kevin into the wall when he clearly has a tire down in the video.

But what did Tony have to be angry about?
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More lies.

Ward's tire flattened because Stewart took him out into the wall, not before.

Stewart has had a long standing rage against Kevin Ward Jr. just as he does other young drivers, Joey Logano comes to mind as another.

Tony Stewart wants to be the best and he is right up there and can't stand to have anyone pass him up, especially a young person. So he pulls the same dirty tactics as he's always done and gotten away with it time and time again.

He should't get away with it this time, they need to make an example out of Tony Stewart.
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And to think that the shill army here on GLP that know jackshit about auto racing was ready to send Stewart to the electric chair based on some dark, grainy video taken from 100yards away. Not one single fact or eye witness account backs up their allegations but they just keep repeating their bullshit over and over in hopes that it will become the "common knowledge" associated with the incident. What a disgusting bunch!

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Nice try, but yes there are eyewitness accounts and when there's an ongoing investigation the witness are told not to talk about it with anyone else. Shake the dice and try again.
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Good job OP, you got the first Pro-Tony thread pinned.


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And to think that the shill army here on GLP that know jackshit about auto racing was ready to send Stewart to the electric chair based on some dark, grainy video taken from 100yards away. Not one single fact or eye witness account backs up their allegations but they just keep repeating their bullshit over and over in hopes that it will become the "common knowledge" associated with the incident. What a disgusting bunch!


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pot, meet kettle


boo hoo, fat tony PR company, True Speed Communication acted like a mobster and bashed a dead kid
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Interesting, it's odd as I can't access the videos in the OP.

It's also odd that, as I mentioned before, witnesses to the crime or "accident" if you will, are usually told by the investigators not to discuss the case with anyone, otherwise testimony gets tainted and they can't use it in court. This is standard procedure for investigations.

Anyone that knows anything about the court system is already aware of this.

So this tells me that whoever this supposed witness is, is a bogus witness, not really a witness at all, that they are nothing more than just a PR person hired to protect Tony Stewart's image.

For that reason alone, this thread should be unpinned
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Interesting, it's odd as I can't access the videos in the OP.

It's also odd that, as I mentioned before, witnesses to the crime or "accident" if you will, are usually told by the investigators not to discuss the case with anyone, otherwise testimony gets tainted and they can't use it in court. This is standard procedure for investigations.

Anyone that knows anything about the court system is already aware of this.

So this tells me that whoever this supposed witness is, is a bogus witness, not really a witness at all, that they are nothing more than just a PR person hired to protect Tony Stewart's image.

For that reason alone, this thread should be unpinned
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This is a test. If OP didn't take this stance with flawed logic it would never have lasted 24 hours. ID and the Alter Ego, got it.
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FUCK TONY STEWART AND HIS SPONSORS!
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They need as many drivers as possible to view the videos carefully in slow motion. Those guys will know what it is really like out there. The vast majority should be able to see if they agree with this driver.

I still say there is epic contribuatory negligence by Ward walking out there on a short track, wearing black, in questionable lighting.

If the car is not a death trap they should have to stay inside as long as it is safe to do so. They should make it the rule and have a requirement that safety crews escort the driver off the track.
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This is already rules and regulations on all tracks, and if you break them, you assume responsibility for your life and are solely liable if injured or killed. That's why Tony Stewart is an innocent man, and will remain that way. My opinion, if you're not old enough to be considered responsible enough to consume alcohol, then you definitely shouldn't be considered responsible enough to race cars that can go 140 mph on dirt.
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Interesting, it's odd as I can't access the videos in the OP.

It's also odd that, as I mentioned before, witnesses to the crime or "accident" if you will, are usually told by the investigators not to discuss the case with anyone, otherwise testimony gets tainted and they can't use it in court. This is standard procedure for investigations.

Anyone that knows anything about the court system is already aware of this.

So this tells me that whoever this supposed witness is, is a bogus witness, not really a witness at all, that they are nothing more than just a PR person hired to protect Tony Stewart's image.

For that reason alone, this thread should be unpinned
 Quoting: Interesting 61114265


This is a test. If OP didn't take this stance with flawed logic it would never have lasted 24 hours. ID and the Alter Ego, got it.
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Logic? It's the law. The OP and Stewart's handlers are relying on the naivety of the publc over this issue.

And if this person is really a witness? You better believe their testimony won't be used in court, because it's already tainted by speaking to the public about it.

This is why I firmly believe that this a bogus witness.
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Interesting, it's odd as I can't access the videos in the OP.

It's also odd that, as I mentioned before, witnesses to the crime or "accident" if you will, are usually told by the investigators not to discuss the case with anyone, otherwise testimony gets tainted and they can't use it in court. This is standard procedure for investigations.

Anyone that knows anything about the court system is already aware of this.

So this tells me that whoever this supposed witness is, is a bogus witness, not really a witness at all, that they are nothing more than just a PR person hired to protect Tony Stewart's image.

For that reason alone, this thread should be unpinned
 Quoting: Interesting 61114265


The witness was another sprint driver behind Stewart. Do you people not realize these drivers sign papers that say they acknowledge, and accept responsibility, that they could be seriously injured or killed if they get out of the car on the track without assistance from emergency response teams during a race? That's why it is not a criminal investigation and will remain open. The kid assumed responsibility for his life the moment he got out of his car, and there is no proof that Tony did it on purpose. Only a confession will confirm that. Too many other variables for anyone to come to that conclusion.
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Interesting, it's odd as I can't access the videos in the OP.

It's also odd that, as I mentioned before, witnesses to the crime or "accident" if you will, are usually told by the investigators not to discuss the case with anyone, otherwise testimony gets tainted and they can't use it in court. This is standard procedure for investigations.

Anyone that knows anything about the court system is already aware of this.

So this tells me that whoever this supposed witness is, is a bogus witness, not really a witness at all, that they are nothing more than just a PR person hired to protect Tony Stewart's image.

For that reason alone, this thread should be unpinned
 Quoting: Interesting 61114265


This is a test. If OP didn't take this stance with flawed logic it would never have lasted 24 hours. ID and the Alter Ego, got it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61694208


Logic? It's the law. The OP and Stewart's handlers are relying on the naivety of the publc over this issue.

And if this person is really a witness? You better believe their testimony won't be used in court, because it's already tainted by speaking to the public about it.

This is why I firmly believe that this a bogus witness.
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It's not a criminal investigation. So, why are you concluding it will even go to court?
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Interesting, it's odd as I can't access the videos in the OP.

It's also odd that, as I mentioned before, witnesses to the crime or "accident" if you will, are usually told by the investigators not to discuss the case with anyone, otherwise testimony gets tainted and they can't use it in court. This is standard procedure for investigations.

Anyone that knows anything about the court system is already aware of this.

So this tells me that whoever this supposed witness is, is a bogus witness, not really a witness at all, that they are nothing more than just a PR person hired to protect Tony Stewart's image.

For that reason alone, this thread should be unpinned
 Quoting: Interesting 61114265


This is a test. If OP didn't take this stance with flawed logic it would never have lasted 24 hours. ID and the Alter Ego, got it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61694208


Logic? It's the law. The OP and Stewart's handlers are relying on the naivety of the publc over this issue.

And if this person is really a witness? You better believe their testimony won't be used in court, because it's already tainted by speaking to the public about it.

This is why I firmly believe that this a bogus witness.
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OK, I don't believe in the system anyway; so, in the court of publik opinion and TS conscience; I say guilty and he will never race the same again nor be viewed in positive light no matter how much he spends on PR.
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What a crock 'o shit. I can't even view their videos unless I get Time Warner service.

The crash witness is probably a Stewart PR plant. So easy to get with all of his money. Ward's family don't have the money to buy off people.

In other related news, Tony Stewart is losing Old Spice as a sponsor....

[link to centralnc.twcnews.com]

Three cheers for Old Spice!


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We should write to his other sponsors, first let me go buy some Old Spice:

Bass Pro Shops
Tracker Boats
Mobil 1
Rush Truck Centers
Code 3 Associates
Ducks Unlimited (Will be the next to drop him)

State Water Heaters
Quicken Loans
WIX Filters
Ritz
Oreo


Who will support a Killa?
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We should! Tell them if they drop tony over AN ACCIDENT we will never buy their products again.
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You're all being played by the media you little sheeples. If they keep the narrative in the direction that Tony Stewart might have done it purposely, they can profit from it by making it big news. The Sheriff and D.A. don't see any crimes committed, and will only charge TS if a grand jury rules that he be charged. Then it will go to trial. It won't though because of paperwork signed by all drivers that will ultimately show that Ward assumed responsibility for his life when he got out of the car on the track during a race. That very paperwork protects TS legally, and this is the part of the story you're not hearing so it can be dragged out and make a profit for the media.
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You're all being played by the media you little sheeples. If they keep the narrative in the direction that Tony Stewart might have done it purposely, they can profit from it by making it big news. The Sheriff and D.A. don't see any crimes committed, and will only charge TS if a grand jury rules that he be charged. Then it will go to trial. It won't though because of paperwork signed by all drivers that will ultimately show that Ward assumed responsibility for his life when he got out of the car on the track during a race. That very paperwork protects TS legally, and this is the part of the story you're not hearing so it can be dragged out and make a profit for the media.
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You're all being played by the media you little sheeples. If they keep the narrative in the direction that Tony Stewart might have done it purposely, they can profit from it by making it big news. The Sheriff and D.A. don't see any crimes committed, and will only charge TS if a grand jury rules that he be charged. Then it will go to trial. It won't though because of paperwork signed by all drivers that will ultimately show that Ward assumed responsibility for his life when he got out of the car on the track during a race. That very paperwork protects TS legally, and this is the part of the story you're not hearing so it can be dragged out and make a profit for the media.
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hesright
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bump
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Tony attempted to spray the kid with dirt. This is common amongst dirt trackers( my old man was a race car driver for thirty years including sprints and midgets; so stick your " I don't know shit comments" ). Tony should have sucked it up been the bigger man and ignored it. He didn't and now should have to pay.
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I agree. Tony is considered one of the worlds best drivers or at least that what the announcers always say during the Sprint Cup races. Tony has raced thousands of races on dirt ovals.

Look at it this way. Tony just ran a driver up the track and into the wall which brings out the caution. Tony knows the caution is out. He knows why the caution is out. He knows this driver that just got taken out by him is going to be pissed. Tony knew he was out of his car. Where did Tony ever touch the brake. No brake, but you hear him accelerate. He meant to throw dirt at Kevin and it failed horribly.

Race fans should be reviewing old races that are on video from all the dirt tracks where shit like this has happened with Tony Stewart. I bet you would find some holy shit near misses. This time it didn't work for him.

I worked at one of the fastest asphalt 1/4 tracks on a safety crew for 9 years. My opinion is Tony could've easily avoided this incident, because he is one of the best at what he been doing his whole life.
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