Christians, please help me. :(

You're quite welcome, and thank you as well.

Yes, believing the truth is only half of it; wanting to be reconciled is the other. Some people only see it as a ticket out of hell, but the truly saved see it as choosing to identify and relate to God. We are born into a world run by Satan, but we can choose to accept a passport to the kingdom of God, because Jesus paid the price. It's all about wanting Him, not just wanting his nice house.

Well, for me, I had to eradicate my Christian upbringing and the whole Christian mythos. It takes awhile to break free of the programming. It helps to believe that the beliefs you held were mere fairy tales. There is no god who could be mad at you because there is no god.

god dont need you he is judas
you better find a tree and hang yourself

Turn off the television, they call it TV programming for a reason.

buddy i'm gonna give it to you straight.

Number #1 .. get past your emotions / let go of your hate, it's ruining your humanity and sounds like it's effecting others.

Number #2 .. stop "believing" that ur lack of faith is the reason and accept that shit happens. even the pope has bad days.

You're part of an amazing group of beings that are capable of accomplishing great things. Reality is, you have people depending on you and unlike other capable godly "entities" that can "will it" because it is simply in their power, you know that at the end of the day, it is YOU friend that will conquer regardless of whatever faith you have.

if we continue believing in these ancient, primitive, self destructive beliefs, humanity will NEVER move forward and evolve to our greatest potential.

When you are on the verge of 'breaking free' it will seem that everything is trying to come against you. This is your psyche creating this, not some 'outside entity'. Either you will continue on through this rough transition or you will run back to where you were. I transitioned through. It is a truly rough process, and depending on how programmed you were, can take many years. But, you chose to break free for a reason. Like I said, you can proceed or give in. You always have a choice. It simply depends on what you really want.

Oh, and stop giving your power away. YOU are the creator of your OWN reality.

Now let me give it to you straight...

The most ancient, primitive, self-destructive belief is that "you shall be as gods". Evolution is a lie, a self-delusion; the human race has done nothing but devolve. Our "potential" is all too obvious.



Programming, you say? And do you know the difference between "breaking free" and "jumping from the frying pan into the fire"? By what objective criteria?

What Jesus offers is true freedom, true peace, true light, and eternal life. Only those who accept him break free from death and misery. I'm not talking about religious practice or any of that, but being reconciled to God.

You yourself are programmed, thinking your psyche is in charge, and denying the reality of "outside entities". To think everything is an accident that only appears to be a design is the ultimate self-delusion.

The title of the thread is CHRISTIANS, Please Help Me.

Not atheists.

Not pagans.

Not trolls.

for sake of humanity ?
how many ppl you feeding it ?
Jesus feeding 5000 ppl and 5000 ppl as a witness of his miracle works

its funny when ppl said "breaking free"
while many of them reject to pay the tax to gov

give to gov what belongs to gov

i have question are gays and lesbian know basic science ?

That's just not true. That's sounds like your ego speaking in support of your preferred religion/faith. There are people all over the world who have undergone a spiritual rebirth/transformation/awakening and who do not necessarily subscribe to the christian faith. They have broken free from 'death' and 'misery'. Ask around and try not to be close-minded about other peoples' beliefs/experiences/spirituality.

DROP ALL RELIGION TOTALLY and FOCUS soley on JESUS CHRIST and the BIBLE. PRAY and repent and seek forgiveness and the Lord WILL have mercy.

OP it sounds like you could possibly be going through what is referred to as the 'dark night of the soul'.

Yahoo/Google search 'in5d dark night of the soul' and see if that write-up speaks to what you feel you are enduring through.

You say you gave up your faith, but you mean walking according to the word of God or the belief in the word of God itself? Sometimes it seems to me you mean the latter, since you tried another religions. However, at the same time you didn't believe none of them either, so maybe you still believe in the bible, at least a good part of it.

Well that's not clear at least for me.

Ask God for forgiveness. He will forgive. You're probably angry at God because the bad things that happened. (that would be my guess).

Think about what happened to Job: bad things can also happen to believers. It's not that they happened because you didn't have faith.

Bad things also happen to non christians. They may happen to everybody. It doesn't mean they happened just because you realized you had doubts about the faith and went away from it (even if this was the case).

But those things might cause a person who had some doubts about his faith to abandon his faith. This is not a problem, this is natural and expected to happen by God. This doesn't mean that God is angry at this person, or will be angry because that person abandoned the faith, because in fact that person didn't have complete faith from the beggining. But had doubts from the beggining.

The fact that the person decided to abandon that religion is a sincere and correct decision. What needs to be addressed are the remaining doubts. If that person is being sincere, when given enough clarification by the Holy Ghost, then that person will believe. So this is not something to be worried, just adressed and resolved.

The proof that you're not doomed is that you're asking christians for help, and still considering it might be the truth. Or maybe even still considering it is the truth (it's not clear for me).

Think also about the parable of the prodigal son. For me it's not clear if the parable talks about a believer who decides to turn to the world and sin or an unbeliever that didn't initally believed God but ends up believing after his experience with the things of the world. For me it might be the two but it seems mostly the former (a beliver who goes after the world and turns back) than the latter.

Anyway, what I mean about the parable of the prodigal son is: it doesn't matter much if that person was or wasn't saved. What matters is that the person came closer to God by seeing that what the world has to offer is volatile and only lasts for a time (even if it's a lifetime), and saw (not exactly through belief, but by more by experience) that what God always offered is better than what the world has to offer.

In some situations it is really difficult to trust God, depending on the weaknesses of the person and the problems involved. But if we lack faith, we can only ask God for more faith. He will give if we ask.

Like the father of the son who was possesed by demons and tormented everyday said:



Notice that he had belief and unbelief (mixed feelings) at the same time.

Mixed feelings are sometimes part of the life of the believer. The way to adress this is to pray to God for more faith in Him.

I read that article and bookmarked it. Very good stuff! That's exactly what this has felt like. I've always been Spiritual with a particular interest growing up in Christianity and Jesus and always been what spiritual people call a "Seeker" but lately since all this happened I'd felt like a complete void, like an emptiness. Its been hard. I appreciate you leading me to that write up

Thank you so much for taking the time to write that response to me. I remember that scripture and I think I will make that my own personal prayer that the Lord, whom I believe in, might help my unbelief! Thank you!

It's a spiritual battle for the souls of men. Powers and principalities that are unseen. The Bible says the enemy comes to steal, kill and destroy.

Read the book of Ephesians about putting on the armour of God in order to repel the enemy. Repent with a sincere and humble heart and ask the Lord God to put a hedge of protection around you in the name of Jesus. He is faithful to all who love him. Rebuke the devil in the name of Jesus and he will flee. Pray the blood of Jesus over yourself, family and home. There is great power in the blood of Jesus. Ask the Lord to give you a clean heart and to put a right spirit within you. Ask for forgiveness for any unbelief and for him to direct your path.

The Scriptures say "All things work together for good for those who love the Lord and are called according to his purposes."

No problem friend. Try to understand that many individuals go through something similar that you are experiencing but in their own unique way and on their own terms. Think of it like a necessary rite of passage on your spiritual journey.

It's temporary, and you work your way through it. It may be challenging but there is definitely a light at the end of the tunnel and one day you will look back on this time in your life and see the value in having had this experience (although I know that sounds crazy to say right now). : )

You alluded to it earlier when you said you were doing/thinking some things but only in your mind. You have to follow/do/believe what feels right in your HEART and be true to yourself through allowing your intuition to guide you. Do not allow others to dictate to you what you should believe when it comes to spiritual matters because doing so will never make you feel like you are being true to yourself. That is up to YOU to decide and you only. It's a PERSONAL journey and it can be no other way.

Try to practice having awareness of your emotional state and where those emotions are being generated from. The negative emotions (fear, anxiety, doubt, anger, etc) are all sourced in your brain/mind - which can easily lead you astray. The positive emotions (love, forgiveness, empathy, compassion, inner peace, etc) are all sourced from your heart. Intuition also originates from your heart. Try to distance yourself from the emotions of the brain/mind and reconnect with the emotions from your heart. You will find that you cannot experience both ranges of emotions at the same time when it comes to your present conscious state - so the more you gravitate to those heartfelt emotions in your life the harder it will be to experience those negative emotions of your brain/mind.

"Re-examine all that you've been told and dismiss that which insults your soul." - Walt Whitman

"Find a place inside where there is joy, and the joy will burn out the pain." - Joseph Campbell

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Don't ask anyone to pray for you.

Return to God yourself. Ask for his undeserved kindness and forgiveness in the name of Jesus Christ our master, lord, and king.

If you are genuine it will be done. Your Father knows how to give good gifts. If you ask him for it you will receive it.

For the OP and for all other people:

Bible quote:
Romans 10:13
King James Version (KJV)
"13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

Thank you so so so so much! You are exactly right. I need to practice that..being aware of my emotions, like you said.

What happened that made you lose your faith?

Whatever it was, it made you hate God, Christianity and religion.

It seems to me -- this is the time in which you perceived your life to start falling apart. It wasn't after you lost your faith.

Who was it here that said that life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you deal with what happens to you. So it is up to you. No matter how bad your life gets, it is always up to you to make the best of things and improve in little ways every day. Being lazy will get you nowhere.

The fact that you still believe there are demons and you are wondering if you can still be redeemed, means that you haven't lost your faith.

In my opinion, this is very bad. It took me more than 10 years to pacify my anger. I'm still a judgemental jerk, but I'm finally past all that Christian nonsense.

OP,
You are not beyond forgiveness but the adversary will try and convince you of that. Have you been honest with GOD lately? I have been in a similar situation as you and GOD brought me through it. GOD already knows.

OP, first of all, you're in my prayers. Just a reminder, nothing is easy these days, we all are going through a lot but in many different ways.

Maybe you can just speak to the Lord and share with Him how you feel and cry and pray, let it all out. He knows everything about you and you can ask forgiveness for whatever reasons you were holding against Him. He loves you and will listen to you. Have a long talk with Him and just have a good cry, let it all out in His presence. Then the Holy Spirit will begin the healing process, healing your mind and your heart. Keep in prayer (talking to Him daily), when you feel discouraged, remember His word and quote it and say a prayer. Feed your spirit man inside and it will grow stronger and stronger. God bless you OP

NO WORRIES, IT HAPPENS

OP, first of all, the above post by Anhedonic is so wonderfully worded and offers much wisdom. Read it a few times, let it sink in :)

Now, take a look at your post above; the periods indicate your further explanation of these words, but look at the words you've typed. Look at the emotional upheaval you are perpetrating, and, understand that you, and only you, have the power to change this... and you can begin right now!! This is not about wanting to lay blame on something outside of you, but rather, taking responsibility for your own thoughts, actions and emotions, and understand that the more you continue to beat the drum of all this awfulness, the more you will experience it.

Use your emotions as the compass they are intended to be.

Right now, reach for some better feeling thoughts. I know you can't go from despair to happy, but, you can go from despair to hope, and from hope, you can get to much better feeling emotions.

Thoughts are incredibly powerful... any thought... and the more you vibrate with certain thoughts (and thus feel the emotion of that thought), the more of it you attract to yourself. Find ways of distracting yourself from the bad-feeling emotions; listen to your favorite music, or try a few of the classics - always wonderful music for upliftment, meditate (if you do), walk in nature, get a foot message - anything to distract you from the emotions that are upsetting you, and that will allow you to feel better feeling emotions, like ease or hope. And when you find that better feeling place, milk it for all it's worth, stay in the moment(s) for as long as you can and extend those moments for as long as you can. Keep reaching for better feeling thoughts and notice how your emotions will guide you.

You will find your way to happiness if you believe that you will :)

Kismet

You are an overcomer, you will get past this - reaching out and realizing your need for your creator was a good step in the right direction. I remember once when I was younger, I had been walking with God, and I became quite impressed with who I was and what I was, almost like I was taking credit for it. It was at that time God allowed me to fail at that and see who I really WAS apart from him - and who it was that really was showing through me to the world in every good thing.

I have one simple thing that comes to mind that may help you from my own experience - there have been times when I have been overwhelmed like you, and I could hardly even speak to God, but finally, those three little words were forced from my soul and my heart, all I could get out... Help me, GOD! And I can honestly say that every single time, his angels were swift to answer and his spirit quick to show its presence. Just start there, begin the dialog... he's always waiting for us - he loves to hear from his children just like any parent would, or like any friend longs to hear from their dearest, closest confidant.

Praying, it will be alright, I have a good feeling...

OP,
You are not a failure. And you are not so far removed that GOD can not help you.

Give your frustration to GOD. ALL OF IT. He can handle it. He already knows about it. Don't hold back but lay it down and let go of it. Release it into His hands. GOD knows about the thoughts too. You know... the "bad" ones. But do you really think He is punishing you? He knows you are experiencing these things but He still loves you. The pills, the scars, the fear, the confusion, the hate. What about unforgiveness. Do you think you have any issues in your life that seem to be like a monkey on your back that you just can't shake off? Like harboring unforgiveness for someone who may have hurt you or someone you love. These things come to the surface at some point. Laying dormant until they surface. These are some of the issues I had dealt with that GOD brought me through. I even ripped up pages of my Bible and was shouting at GOD and everything else in between. Done things I wished I hadn't in my past but at some point these issues came out. The only reason I feel I am alive today is because GOD had mercy on me.

All in all it was an experience unlike any other in my faith walk with The Lord. But it had me crying tears of joy when I knew how undeserving I was but showed me He did love me and always has. He forgave me and help to understand grace better.

I love you OP and understand that you are not alone.