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I just feel bad for OP because he started this thread looking for support and encouragement but now it has been derailed by religious fundies who preach they know god but don't actually have a real relationship with him because if they truly did (like i do), they would know what the right thing to say to you at this time..but they clearly don't


thats why i have said what i have said

jesus works through me my brother

he wants you to know your loved

forget all this other stuff

know god loves you, know jesus is inside of you...
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Re: Christians, please help me. :(
I just feel bad for OP because he started this thread looking for support and encouragement but now it has been derailed by religious fundies who preach they know god but don't actually have a real relationship with him because if they truly did (like i do), they would know what the right thing to say to you at this time..but they clearly don't


thats why i have said what i have said

jesus works through me my brother

he wants you to know your loved

forget all this other stuff

know god loves you, know jesus is inside of you...
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you can sense each persons walk with god based on how they treat their fellow sufferer..
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Try to stay positive!!

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Your cant just tell someone who is full of hate to "STAY POSITIVE" It doesn't address his problems at all. He is angry because he is feeling victimized. What I want to know is what happened in his life to make him renounce God & how does he know God is responsible for his problems?
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Re: Christians, please help me. :(
Hey OP me again, I'm ignoring these other hateful "christians"

notice how this went from a nice supportive thread to a scriptural debate..

and even then the scripture they use is weak and doesn't prove anything about faith without works is dead regardless of that fact...

there are those of us here who do care and don't just want to prove we know more bible verses then others

Try to stay positive!!

just have faith that jesus loves you dearly..and leave the rest up to god
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lol. the goats always resort to that lame hate argument. You have been rebuked just like the word of God tells us to.

You shall not hate your brother in your heart: you shall surely rebuke your neighbor, and not bear sin because of him. Leviticus 19:17

re·buke
/riˈbyo͞ok/
Verb
Express sharp disapproval or criticism of (someone) because of their behavior or actions.
Noun
An expression of sharp disapproval or criticism.
Synonyms
verb. reprove - reprimand - reprehend - scold - upbraid - chide
noun. reprimand - reproof - reproach - reprehension

You are no disciple of Jesus. You are a deceiver, a child of the devil. A member of Mystery Babylon. You don't know the word of God, bet you never even read it. I am sick of you lazy goats who lead people astray. Lazy lukewarm people in it for what they can get who think they have a license to sin and a free ticket to heaven. They will get a very nasty shock.
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Don't let people like this invade your mind, this is why timothy said the tounge can be very wicked and deceiving..

everything ever said to you is stored in your mind and makes up who you are.. so ignore this person saying god doesn't exist.

sorry you have to be led astray like that

but at the end of the day God knows everyone.. so we cant judge, just gotta let god take care of it
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If I wrote a holy book, I'd be sure to include sections that says that anyone who doubts me isn't pure.

Therefore only proving my 'truth' more.
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once again, why the tounge can be wicked

spread lies etc
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I could say the same thing to for denying my hole queen unicorn goddess' existence. Lies straight from the maimed horsey in chapter 7.

Don't listen to eh lies of this defile and wicked one, for he is trying to corrupt you.

You have only confirmed my belief in the supreme unicorn goddess.
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Daaaww does the widdle atheist think he's being cute?

Atheists have a quitter mentality.They figure since one god doesn't exist,that means none of them do.Irrelevant quips about unicorns,santa claus,and the flying spaghetti monster is really all they have to offer these days.
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Hey OP me again, I'm ignoring these other hateful "christians"

notice how this went from a nice supportive thread to a scriptural debate..

and even then the scripture they use is weak and doesn't prove anything about faith without works is dead regardless of that fact...

there are those of us here who do care and don't just want to prove we know more bible verses then others

Try to stay positive!!

just have faith that jesus loves you dearly..and leave the rest up to god
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And you call the directions of the Messiah, King of Kings weak? Wow, I rest my case.
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Go to church where its quiet and pray the Rosary. You will see your life turn around. The Blessed Mother is the mother of us all and loves us dearly. She will intercede for you, Jesus always listens to his mother.
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No, Mary is dead awaiting resurrection like everyone else. That is Idolatry and God hates it.
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jesus guarantees eternal life...

mother mary is very much alive
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Not to all,

Matthew 7:21-23


21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’


And Mary is not alive, show me chapter and verse where it says that in the bible. Lies!
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Re: Christians, please help me. :(
I just feel bad for OP because he started this thread looking for support and encouragement but now it has been derailed by religious fundies who preach they know god but don't actually have a real relationship with him because if they truly did (like i do), they would know what the right thing to say to you at this time..but they clearly don't


thats why i have said what i have said

jesus works through me my brother

he wants you to know your loved

forget all this other stuff

know god loves you, know jesus is inside of you...
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So you would rather him hear sugar coated fallacies instead of the hard truth no matter what?
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NEVER IN THE 4 GOSPELS DOES IT EVER SAY FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD

it never says that

ever

it says it in james, which is a letter. not the gospel of jesus christ

thats all i go by, is the 4 gospels

sorry.
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So profess to believe in Jesus and yet do whatever the hell you want?
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No, jesus will lead you to what he wants you to do...

doesn't mean you have to do what every other christian does

its a personal relationship between JESUS and YOU. no one else
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Please pray for me, GLP. I was once a firm believer in Christ but several months ago something happened and I gave up my faith. I became consumed with a burning hatred towards God and anything related to Christianity or religion period. I ripped up every religious book I owned including several bibles and a Tanakh, burned pictures of my baptism and baptism certificates and broke crosses and statues in an attempt to eradicate God and Christ from my life.

It can't just be a coincidence that after that happened my life completely fell apart. I lost my job, my landlord sold my family's house that we were renting to own right out from under us forcing my aunt, mom, little brother and myself to move into a very small travel trailer. My mental health is rapidly deteriorating and I'm depressed, scared, agitated and paranoid all the time. I've become a jealous monster and have started to push my girlfriend away with my insecurities.

It seems like nothing but bad things have happened since I turned away from my faith. I'd wandered from the faith plenty of times and explored other religions and schools of thought but never have I left with such violence and hatred in my heart. Now I can't even pick up a bible or hear a Christian song on the radio without getting furious and quickly pushing the book away or turning the song off and anytime I hear someone pray I start getting blasphemous thoughts in my head and start shouting obscenities to God in my thoughts to drown out the sound of the prayer. I feel like I'm doomed.

Am I beyond forgiveness? Have I opened the door to a demon? Please pray for me, for my family and for my girlfriend.
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I'm a christian, so what I'm about to say may sound weird. But you sound like a complete ass. You just pointed out all your flaws & you still cant figure out how to change your life around. And whats worse is you BLAME god! You basically summed up yourself as being full of hate, & you wonder why your life is crap. All people who renounce Yahweh's laws are doomed to re-incarnate on earth over & over until the selfishness & hate are all burned out. It sounds like something horrible happened in your life that you blame God for. Ever considered that maybe it was caused by Satan or even human error.
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And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment
Hebrews 9:27
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Judgment is where you are re-incarnated. If you are good you go to heaven, if you are bad you stay on earth for more corrective punishment. The soul is like water, in that it cycles from the sky(heaven) to the earth then to the sea(abyss). Do you really think that non-believers will burn for an eternity in actual fire. That is not fair & God is completely fair. Fire is symbolic for desire & 'eternity' has been mistranslated.....it actually means 'age'. Don't read the King James bible it is full of mistranslations. Read the original manuscripts. It does suggest re-incarnation.
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Re: Christians, please help me. :(
I just feel bad for OP because he started this thread looking for support and encouragement but now it has been derailed by religious fundies who preach they know god but don't actually have a real relationship with him because if they truly did (like i do), they would know what the right thing to say to you at this time..but they clearly don't


thats why i have said what i have said

jesus works through me my brother

he wants you to know your loved

forget all this other stuff

know god loves you, know jesus is inside of you...
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I will not stand by and let people deceive others. It is my duty to speak up and rebuke false teachers like you. I do it out of love for others. OP has already got support both from others and me. And for you to call me a fundie says more about you than me. You are probably a new-ager. I know the Father and the Son, I have the holy spirit, you obviously considering the drivel you have spouted on this thread. You are the the blind leading the blind,

The word of God has something to say about your ilk.

Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch. Matthew 15:14
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Re: Christians, please help me. :(
I just feel bad for OP because he started this thread looking for support and encouragement but now it has been derailed by religious fundies who preach they know god but don't actually have a real relationship with him because if they truly did (like i do), they would know what the right thing to say to you at this time..but they clearly don't


thats why i have said what i have said

jesus works through me my brother

he wants you to know your loved

forget all this other stuff

know god loves you, know jesus is inside of you...
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you can sense each persons walk with god based on how they treat their fellow sufferer..
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Yeah and you are the one feeding him lies.
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Christians, please help me. Please pray for me, GLP.
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And once again another idiots walks into Radio Shack wanting to order a Domino's pizza.
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Re: Christians, please help me. :(
I just feel bad for OP because he started this thread looking for support and encouragement but now it has been derailed by religious fundies who preach they know god but don't actually have a real relationship with him because if they truly did (like i do), they would know what the right thing to say to you at this time..but they clearly don't


thats why i have said what i have said

jesus works through me my brother

he wants you to know your loved

forget all this other stuff

know god loves you, know jesus is inside of you...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36427522


you can sense each persons walk with god based on how they treat their fellow sufferer..
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Yeah and you are the one feeding him lies.
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I am the one telling him the Truth.
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Re: Christians, please help me. :(
I just feel bad for OP because he started this thread looking for support and encouragement but now it has been derailed by religious fundies who preach they know god but don't actually have a real relationship with him because if they truly did (like i do), they would know what the right thing to say to you at this time..but they clearly don't


thats why i have said what i have said

jesus works through me my brother

he wants you to know your loved

forget all this other stuff

know god loves you, know jesus is inside of you...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36427522


So you would rather him hear sugar coated fallacies instead of the hard truth no matter what?
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This comes to mind, history always repeats if we don't learn from the past.

Many People Actually Prefer False Prophets:

Isa 30:9 That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD:
Isa 30:10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:

Isa 30:11 Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.
Isa 30:12 Wherefore thus saith the Holy One of Israel, Because ye despise this word, and trust in oppression and perverseness, and stay thereon:
Isa 30:13 Therefore this iniquity shall be to you as a breach ready to fall, swelling out in a high wall, whose breaking cometh suddenly at an instant.
Isa 30:14 And he shall break it as the breaking of the potters' vessel that is broken in pieces; he shall not spare: so that there shall not be found in the bursting of it a sherd to take fire from the hearth, or to take water withal out of the pit.

Jer 5:31 The prophets prophesy lies, the priests rule by their own authority, and my people love it this way. But what will you do in the end?
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I just feel bad for OP because he started this thread looking for support and encouragement but now it has been derailed by religious fundies who preach they know god but don't actually have a real relationship with him because if they truly did (like i do), they would know what the right thing to say to you at this time..but they clearly don't


thats why i have said what i have said

jesus works through me my brother

he wants you to know your loved

forget all this other stuff

know god loves you, know jesus is inside of you...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36427522


I will not stand by and let people deceive others. It is my duty to speak up and rebuke false teachers like you. I do it out of love for others. OP has already got support both from others and me. And for you to call me a fundie says more about you than me. You are probably a new-ager. I know the Father and the Son, I have the holy spirit, you obviously don't considering the drivel you have spouted on this thread. You are the the blind leading the blind,

The word of God has something to say about your ilk.

Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch. Matthew 15:14
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Being angry at God does really show that you believe in him.

I was mad at him and it took some time but I realized his ways are higher than mine. The shit we see, is from the free will we were given. This is what often makes us wonder, how can there be a loving god when so much pain and misery happens, especially to children.

He did not create us at puppets but gave us freedom to choose so we see that outcome in the killing of innocent ppl.
No mini me did he creats , we are unique by our free will.

To remove evil that is called near by our anger or depression one need only and simply
to Praise his name...evil will flee.

The road to possession is often started with anger and depression , they are attracted to our empty place.
Oppression occurs soon after when they sit upon on shoulder and speak to our heart.

Possession occurs when we allow their false power to seduce our soul but we must allow it, it is choice.

The kingdom of heaven is inside of you.

God knows we are but human and his good angels will surround you when you break the Oppression by Simply giving thanks to him for creating you.
Do not judge yourself and do not be deceived Jesus is bigger than your sins.
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If I wrote a holy book, I'd be sure to include sections that says that anyone who doubts me isn't pure.

Therefore only proving my 'truth' more.
 Quoting: Jon


once again, why the tounge can be wicked

spread lies etc
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36427522


I could say the same thing to for denying my hole queen unicorn goddess' existence. Lies straight from the maimed horsey in chapter 7.

Don't listen to eh lies of this defile and wicked one, for he is trying to corrupt you.

You have only confirmed my belief in the supreme unicorn goddess.
 Quoting: Jon


Daaaww does the widdle atheist think he's being cute?

Atheists have a quitter mentality.They figure since one god doesn't exist,that means none of them do.Irrelevant quips about unicorns,santa claus,and the flying spaghetti monster is really all they have to offer these days.
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It was only a metaphor for the way believers act.
"People say I'm wrong and it confirms my beliefs."

Belief in a god, specifically the god in the bible/quran, is very silly and people respond with equally silly quips.

I don't quit, I will enjoy the day where there are no religions.
Truth is hard to come by...
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I will enjoy the day where there are no religions.
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And then what will you do for fun? Who will you hypocritically judge for being judgmental? Whose threads will you enter for the expressed purpose of entertaining yourself by ramming your unbeliefs down their throats?

Be careful what you wish for.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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once again, why the tounge can be wicked

spread lies etc
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I could say the same thing to for denying my hole queen unicorn goddess' existence. Lies straight from the maimed horsey in chapter 7.

Don't listen to eh lies of this defile and wicked one, for he is trying to corrupt you.

You have only confirmed my belief in the supreme unicorn goddess.
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Daaaww does the widdle atheist think he's being cute?

Atheists have a quitter mentality.They figure since one god doesn't exist,that means none of them do.Irrelevant quips about unicorns,santa claus,and the flying spaghetti monster is really all they have to offer these days.
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It was only a metaphor for the way believers act.
"People say I'm wrong and it confirms my beliefs."

Belief in a god, specifically the god in the bible/quran, is very silly and people respond with equally silly quips.

I don't quit, I will enjoy the day where there are no religions.
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Thats never going to happen.
One day only one religion will exist,when the great deceiver comes with mighty signs and wonder to trick all who dwell on the earth into worshipping him.At that time atheists will be extinct.Yesterdays atheists will be loyal devotee's of the beast,the same as anyone whose name is not in the book of life.
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I really wish everyone would stop arguing. I appreciate every single person who contributed to my thread and offered encouragement. Sure some of you may disagree with certain doctrines and things but surely we can all agree on Jesus, yes? I realized in all of this that I never really truly asked Him into my heart and though I considered myself a believer still I was never really saved. I always assumed because I went to church, read the bible and hung out with Christians that I was saved. I will only go into a little detail about my recent turning away but it had to do with mainly being angry at myself and angry at certain members of my family who had abused me during my childhood and dealing with memories that had resurfaced. I lashed out at God as a foolish extreme which I'm realizing now was actually just my subconscious way of trying to hurt myself spiritually if that makes sense. Still, I'm starting to realize that I'm glad I hit that rock bottom because it has brought me to this understanding that I NEED Jesus Christ to be my Lord and Savior and to come into my heart. I'm 25yrs old and grew up going to Church and reading the Bible but never once had I asked Him to save me. Thank you everyone for helping me see that now.
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thank you Jesus for many you follower going astray the more bigger my room in heaven i wouldnt spare my room to those idiots living on van trailers :)
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Please pray for me, GLP. I was once a firm believer in Christ but several months ago something happened and I gave up my faith. I became consumed with a burning hatred towards God and anything related to Christianity or religion period. I ripped up every religious book I owned including several bibles and a Tanakh, burned pictures of my baptism and baptism certificates and broke crosses and statues in an attempt to eradicate God and Christ from my life.

It can't just be a coincidence that after that happened my life completely fell apart. I lost my job, my landlord sold my family's house that we were renting to own right out from under us forcing my aunt, mom, little brother and myself to move into a very small travel trailer. My mental health is rapidly deteriorating and I'm depressed, scared, agitated and paranoid all the time. I've become a jealous monster and have started to push my girlfriend away with my insecurities.

It seems like nothing but bad things have happened since I turned away from my faith. I'd wandered from the faith plenty of times and explored other religions and schools of thought but never have I left with such violence and hatred in my heart. Now I can't even pick up a bible or hear a Christian song on the radio without getting furious and quickly pushing the book away or turning the song off and anytime I hear someone pray I start getting blasphemous thoughts in my head and start shouting obscenities to God in my thoughts to drown out the sound of the prayer. I feel like I'm doomed.

Am I beyond forgiveness? Have I opened the door to a demon? Please pray for me, for my family and for my girlfriend.
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Actually, your subconscious expected bad things to happen when you turned away. You simply manifested these deeply held beliefs. You must completely eradicate the belief. Doing so is not easy and takes years. The path to freedom is very rough.
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I really wish everyone would stop arguing. I appreciate every single person who contributed to my thread and offered encouragement. Sure some of you may disagree with certain doctrines and things but surely we can all agree on Jesus, yes? I realized in all of this that I never really truly asked Him into my heart and though I considered myself a believer still I was never really saved. I always assumed because I went to church, read the bible and hung out with Christians that I was saved. I will only go into a little detail about my recent turning away but it had to do with mainly being angry at myself and angry at certain members of my family who had abused me during my childhood and dealing with memories that had resurfaced. I lashed out at God as a foolish extreme which I'm realizing now was actually just my subconscious way of trying to hurt myself spiritually if that makes sense. Still, I'm starting to realize that I'm glad I hit that rock bottom because it has brought me to this understanding that I NEED Jesus Christ to be my Lord and Savior and to come into my heart. I'm 25yrs old and grew up going to Church and reading the Bible but never once had I asked Him to save me. Thank you everyone for helping me see that now.
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I'm glad you were able to focus on what's important. There isn't a Christian thread here that doesn't come under attack, one way or another. It's to be expected in a place like this.

There is another thread here from someone losing faith, and I'll tell you what I told them, which is what you already know: it's all about your relationship to Jesus. If we believe he died for us and rose again, for the purpose of being reconciled to God, and we trust only him to save us and "forsake all others", we are saved. Of course, being saved means being grateful and wanting to please our Savior, and that's where the good deeds come in. But salvation is a gift which cannot be earned, but only accepted.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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thank you Jesus for many you follower going astray the more bigger my room in heaven i wouldnt spare my room to those idiots living on van trailers :)
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op you better begging for money than ask for pray :)
money is god
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Please pray for me, GLP. I was once a firm believer in Christ but several months ago something happened and I gave up my faith. I became consumed with a burning hatred towards God and anything related to Christianity or religion period. I ripped up every religious book I owned including several bibles and a Tanakh, burned pictures of my baptism and baptism certificates and broke crosses and statues in an attempt to eradicate God and Christ from my life.

It can't just be a coincidence that after that happened my life completely fell apart. I lost my job, my landlord sold my family's house that we were renting to own right out from under us forcing my aunt, mom, little brother and myself to move into a very small travel trailer. My mental health is rapidly deteriorating and I'm depressed, scared, agitated and paranoid all the time. I've become a jealous monster and have started to push my girlfriend away with my insecurities.

It seems like nothing but bad things have happened since I turned away from my faith. I'd wandered from the faith plenty of times and explored other religions and schools of thought but never have I left with such violence and hatred in my heart. Now I can't even pick up a bible or hear a Christian song on the radio without getting furious and quickly pushing the book away or turning the song off and anytime I hear someone pray I start getting blasphemous thoughts in my head and start shouting obscenities to God in my thoughts to drown out the sound of the prayer. I feel like I'm doomed.

Am I beyond forgiveness? Have I opened the door to a demon? Please pray for me, for my family and for my girlfriend.
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Actually, your subconscious expected bad things to happen when you turned away. You simply manifested these deeply held beliefs. You must completely eradicate the belief. Doing so is not easy and takes years. The path to freedom is very rough.
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Completely eradicate which belief? I think you may be right about the first part because I did those things because I believed bad things would happen if I did. I wasn't so much cursing God as I was using God to curse myself.
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Re: Christians, please help me. :(
I was once a firm believer in Christ but several months ago something happened and I gave up my faith.

I feel like I'm doomed.

Am I beyond forgiveness?
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The short answer is this:

1) you are NOT beyond forgiveness.
2) God wants you to return to Him. Re-read the story of the prodigal son in Luke 15:11-24.

A longer response:

I recently found myself in a similar situation. After having given my heart to Jesus, I found myself rejecting God and running from Him about a year and a half ago. Like a dog returning to its own vomit, I returned to my past.

I felt bad but thought that since I had willfully turned away from God and pursued a life of sin, I was beyond redemption. I thought that if I couldn't be forgiven, then what did it matter? I may as well pursue sin with a vengeance.

This only led me to feel even more miserable and beyond hope.

In my heart, though, I longed to be reconciled with God. I just didn't know how I could possibly get back to Him.

Let me tell you right now, thoughts like that (being beyond forgiveness, without hope, etc.) are lies straight from Satan. God is waiting for, and wants you to return to Him. He is a God of mercy.

Micah 7:18 Who is a God like unto thee, that pardoneth iniquity? he retaineth not his anger for ever, because he delighteth in mercy.

I started reading my Bible again; looking for a way back to God. Here is the simple answer that I found:

1) Humble yourself and pray.
- James 4:6 God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.

2) Confess your sin to God and ask for His forgiveness.
- 1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

3) Repent of your sin (that means to turn away from it and stop doing it).
- 2 Chron 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.


Here are some other versus that comforted me and convinced me that God would indeed have me (and YOU) back:

Ezekial 18:21-23 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live. Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord God: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?

Did you catch that? God says that if we will just come back to Him and ask His forgiveness, He will gladly forgive us and won't hold any of the bad stuff we have done against us.

Isaiah 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lord, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

James 4:8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you.

God is waiting for you to return home.
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Re: Christians, please help me. :(
I really wish everyone would stop arguing. I appreciate every single person who contributed to my thread and offered encouragement. Sure some of you may disagree with certain doctrines and things but surely we can all agree on Jesus, yes? I realized in all of this that I never really truly asked Him into my heart and though I considered myself a believer still I was never really saved. I always assumed because I went to church, read the bible and hung out with Christians that I was saved. I will only go into a little detail about my recent turning away but it had to do with mainly being angry at myself and angry at certain members of my family who had abused me during my childhood and dealing with memories that had resurfaced. I lashed out at God as a foolish extreme which I'm realizing now was actually just my subconscious way of trying to hurt myself spiritually if that makes sense. Still, I'm starting to realize that I'm glad I hit that rock bottom because it has brought me to this understanding that I NEED Jesus Christ to be my Lord and Savior and to come into my heart. I'm 25yrs old and grew up going to Church and reading the Bible but never once had I asked Him to save me. Thank you everyone for helping me see that now.
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I'm glad you were able to focus on what's important. There isn't a Christian thread here that doesn't come under attack, one way or another. It's to be expected in a place like this.

There is another thread here from someone losing faith, and I'll tell you what I told them, which is what you already know: it's all about your relationship to Jesus. If we believe he died for us and rose again, for the purpose of being reconciled to God, and we trust only him to save us and "forsake all others", we are saved. Of course, being saved means being grateful and wanting to please our Savior, and that's where the good deeds come in. But salvation is a gift which cannot be earned, but only accepted.
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I agree completely but I also think that in my case I believed all of those things about Jesus but only with my head or my intellect, not in my heart. And I certainly didn't believe that I was forgiven or loved. This whole experience has brought me to the realization that I can believe in Christ all I want but that is not the same as asking Him into my heart because of my NEED for Him. Thank you though for your wisdom and encouragement.
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Re: Christians, please help me. :(
I really wish everyone would stop arguing. I appreciate every single person who contributed to my thread and offered encouragement. Sure some of you may disagree with certain doctrines and things but surely we can all agree on Jesus, yes? I realized in all of this that I never really truly asked Him into my heart and though I considered myself a believer still I was never really saved. I always assumed because I went to church, read the bible and hung out with Christians that I was saved. I will only go into a little detail about my recent turning away but it had to do with mainly being angry at myself and angry at certain members of my family who had abused me during my childhood and dealing with memories that had resurfaced. I lashed out at God as a foolish extreme which I'm realizing now was actually just my subconscious way of trying to hurt myself spiritually if that makes sense. Still, I'm starting to realize that I'm glad I hit that rock bottom because it has brought me to this understanding that I NEED Jesus Christ to be my Lord and Savior and to come into my heart. I'm 25yrs old and grew up going to Church and reading the Bible but never once had I asked Him to save me. Thank you everyone for helping me see that now.
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Well put. I take back saying you sound like an ass. I think your cool. I just cant stand it when people blame all the evils in the world on God. God is the only one who can help us. When we suffer, we should ask God for help..not become angry at him.

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