What was the purpose of the Biblical Flood? It appears there was none. | |
ObeWayneKenobe
User ID: 845805 United States 12/31/2009 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As for the flood, the purpose was to scare the hell out of children. And it worked! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 373696NOT TRUE! Although Satan and his followers use it for that now! I'll give you a chance to explain that before I make fun of you. God's purpose is NEVER to "scare" anyone! Remember: "Perfect Love casts out All fear." |
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ObeWayneKenobe
User ID: 845805 United States 12/31/2009 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As for the flood, the purpose was to scare the hell out of children. And it worked! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 373696NOT TRUE! Although Satan and his followers use it for that now! The clock is ticking. Prepare to made fun of... Sorry it took me so long to get back to you.....I guess I got lost somewhere? lol Btw, For those who have overcome their egos......being laughed at is lost on the roles of imagined perceptions! lol |
Elijah
User ID: 560289 United States 12/31/2009 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Think about the flood as spiritual Quoting: The Professor 660063Spiritual water flooded the Earth and Noah's belief system remained as the ruling belief system then humanity began growing from there. Mon Dec 10/16 So Noah built a spiritual ark to take his spiritual family and spiritual animals aboard to save them from spiritual rains which caused a spiritual Flood which spiritually drowned every human except for Noah and his family and every land animal not on the ark? Well, I have to admit, of all the tens of thousands of theories I've heard about the Bible, I've never heard that one. I certainly don't agree with you, but thank you for your response. |
Full Circle
User ID: 853031 Canada 12/31/2009 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The flood was a natural occurence. You'd be wiser to ask, what caused the flood. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 853912Yep. Born into this World We create echoes of our inward yearnings And Shift along the Axis From matter to Spirit - Scott Mutter |
The Professor (OP) User ID: 660063 United States 12/31/2009 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have probably done more research than you because I am aware of hundreds of similar stories about the Flood. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 815916Who wrote the stories if everyone died? Noa couldnt have written them all.. You've answered your own question. according to the Bible Noah survived the Flood. Can't you see there were survivals to the other Flood accounts as well. Just because the Bible says only Noah and his family survived doesn't mean it's true. According to the combined written records, other people in other lands survived as well. If only Noah and his family survived, it is interesting how all the races developed in such a relatively short period. Thank you for your response. How could one man build such a huge boat AND gather every male and female creature on earth? Is it possible? From everything I've read, it is not possible. It was impossible to even collect samples of every animal on Earth given that many such animals live only in particular regions - many far away from Noah's residence- and could survive only under certain climatic conditions. Additionally, there were not enough animals aboard to satisfy the dietary needs of carnivores allegedly aboard the ark. There are many other problems with the story of the ark, but my concern was about the PURPOSE of the Flood. Why would God kill almost every man, women and child because they were inherently evil, and then promise never to do it again because...mankind was inherently evil? It just didn't make sense to me. |
The Professor (OP) User ID: 660063 United States 12/31/2009 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not calling God unjust; God is my judge, I am not His. However, in my opinion God is not the entity described within the pages of the Old Testament. I do walk with God, and at the same time question the meaning of every word written in the Bible. I am not bound by any man's definition of God since I am just as capable of finding God as anyone else. Quoting: ElijahYou found your God in a book. I did not. Thank you for your response. Nothing wrong with reason nor trying to wrap ones mind around the ways of God. Finding begins with seeking and seeking begins with a question. Words of wisdom indeed. I thank you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 815916 United States 12/31/2009 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, it doesn't make sense, but if you look at it from the point of view that the Anunnaki wanted life wiped out, it makes sense. Well no, that doesn't make sense either. How could an alien life form have that kind of power? They knew it was coming beforehand. |
Elijah
User ID: 560289 United States 12/31/2009 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | --- Quoting: The Professor 660063Why would God kill almost every man, women and child because they were inherently evil, and then promise never to do it again because...mankind was inherently evil? It just didn't make sense to me. While I don't agree with it, I do recall reading one commentary in which the author speculated that the flood was a natural phenomenon God was simply aware of and for some reason could not stop so He took responsibility / blame and provided a means of escape. The fact there were only 8 survivors was not his choice but that of the people who refused to head the warnings. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 373696 United States 12/31/2009 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As for the flood, the purpose was to scare the hell out of children. And it worked! Quoting: ObeWayneKenobeNOT TRUE! Although Satan and his followers use it for that now! The clock is ticking. Prepare to made fun of... Sorry it took me so long to get back to you.....I guess I got lost somewhere? lol Btw, For those who have overcome their egos......being laughed at is lost on the roles of imagined perceptions! lol OK, thanks for the response, and I take back what I said. I still don't buy it though. You can keep a god who drowns people like unwanted kittens, "perfect love" or no. |
Ostria
User ID: 853926 Greece 12/31/2009 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So they had to find a reason for such a huge catastroph. Who did it and why? "God did it because the humans were bad." It was the most simple answer they could find back then. And the priests used this story to frighten their followers. In all the religions, it was used as an example, follow God/Gods orders or he can do it again. (remember the story of Lot? this is another such example) |
ObeWayneKenobe
User ID: 845805 United States 12/31/2009 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The flood was a natural occurence. You'd be wiser to ask, what caused the flood. Quoting: Full CircleYep. The flood(or earth changes/pole shift) is a natural result of that moment when God's breathing IN cycle turns from God's breathing OUT cycle....so to speak! It happens approximately every 26,000 of our years. Or so I've been told.....;) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 815916 United States 12/31/2009 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not calling God unjust; God is my judge, I am not His. However, in my opinion God is not the entity described within the pages of the Old Testament. I do walk with God, and at the same time question the meaning of every word written in the Bible. I am not bound by any man's definition of God since I am just as capable of finding God as anyone else. Quoting: The Professor 660063There is no old man sitting on a throne judging you. It's man that judges himself. Think of yourself as a molecule of water. Some molecules want to rule and others are there to serve and some do nothing. These molecules have a consciousness and are a part of something much bigger, but they don't have the whole view. This water stretches into universes, but still has a connection to all there is. Some little molecules lost their connection to the whole and became muddy with fear and can't hear the lighter, purer molecules. They are still connected to the Source, but are now unaware of it and believe they have lost their way. The purer water sometimes gets through to the lower muddy levels and tells them to lighten their load by telling them they aren't separate from the whole, they only believe they are. They are told to find the purity within them that's always been there. |
ObeWayneKenobe
User ID: 845805 United States 12/31/2009 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I still don't buy it though. You can keep a god who drowns people like unwanted kittens, "perfect love" or no. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 373696That's what I am saying: HE DIDN'T DROWN THEM! That's just what your bible tells you He did......but He didn't: He provided for their safety.......for those who made that choice.....for He FORCED no-one aboard the Star-craft! Last Edited by ObeWayneKenobe on 12/31/2009 02:54 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 853217 United Kingdom 12/31/2009 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The flood was a natural occurence. You'd be wiser to ask, what caused the flood. Quoting: ObeWayneKenobeYep. The flood(or earth changes/pole shift) is a natural result of that moment when God's breathing IN cycle turns from God's breathing OUT cycle....so to speak! It happens approximately every 26,000 of our years. Or so I've been told.....;) Canadian glacial lake breached causing a massivepulse of fresh water which formed the Caspian Sea... Or so I've been told. |
Full Circle
User ID: 853031 Canada 12/31/2009 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The flood was a natural occurence. You'd be wiser to ask, what caused the flood. Quoting: ObeWayneKenobeYep. The flood(or earth changes/pole shift) is a natural result of that moment when God's breathing IN cycle turns from God's breathing OUT cycle....so to speak! It happens approximately every 26,000 of our years. Or so I've been told.....;) Bingo!! I've called it the breath of Sophia myself. Born into this World We create echoes of our inward yearnings And Shift along the Axis From matter to Spirit - Scott Mutter |
ObeWayneKenobe
User ID: 845805 United States 12/31/2009 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The flood was a natural occurence. You'd be wiser to ask, what caused the flood. Quoting: Full CircleYep. The flood(or earth changes/pole shift) is a natural result of that moment when God's breathing IN cycle turns from God's breathing OUT cycle....so to speak! It happens approximately every 26,000 of our years. Or so I've been told.....;) Bingo!! I've called it the breath of Sophia myself. Interesting......why the name "Sophia"? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 838362 United States 12/31/2009 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The story of the Biblical Flood brings to mind one of the most confusing issues in the Bible, one that few Christians will talk about. I haven't read anything about it on GLP, so here it is. Quoting: The Professor 660063This is the reason the Old Testament God gave for destroying every man, woman and child except for Noah and his family: “And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them” (Genesis 6:5-7, KJV, highlights my own). And this is the reason the Old Testament God promised never to destroy mankind again. “And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done” (Genesis 8:21, KJV, highlights my own). So the omniscient God destroyed most of mankind because they were inherently sinful, and he promised never to do it again because....they were inherently sinful! As they so eloquently say on the GLP forum: WTF?? Here is what bothers me: If the reason for destroying humanity and the reason for promising never to do it again are the same, what was the purpose of killing so many people? According to God Himself, He knew mankind would continue to be just as evil (and they have), so not one damn thing had changed. The Flood thus appears to be a senseless act of unparalleled cruelty. So what was the purpose of the Biblical Flood. It appears there was none. I'm sorry but this must be the dumbest thing i have ever heard! |
Full Circle
User ID: 853031 Canada 12/31/2009 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The flood was a natural occurence. You'd be wiser to ask, what caused the flood. Quoting: ObeWayneKenobeYep. The flood(or earth changes/pole shift) is a natural result of that moment when God's breathing IN cycle turns from God's breathing OUT cycle....so to speak! It happens approximately every 26,000 of our years. Or so I've been told.....;) Bingo!! I've called it the breath of Sophia myself. Interesting......why the name "Sophia"? Because Sophia (to me) is the feminine counterpart of the androgynous nature of God. Creation and Wisdom combined. Born into this World We create echoes of our inward yearnings And Shift along the Axis From matter to Spirit - Scott Mutter |
Ostria
User ID: 853926 Greece 12/31/2009 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The flood was a natural occurence. You'd be wiser to ask, what caused the flood. Quoting: ObeWayneKenobeYep. The flood(or earth changes/pole shift) is a natural result of that moment when God's breathing IN cycle turns from God's breathing OUT cycle....so to speak! It happens approximately every 26,000 of our years. Or so I've been told.....;) The Metonic cycle? could be this or just the end of the last Ice Age. It depends on the date we suppose this catastroph took place (in the specific region of the old world). 15,000 - 9,000 bc (end of the last Ice Age) 5000 bc (the caspian flood theory) probably the biblical referance is for the second date, small societies had already formed and such stories could have been told for some generations. |
ObeWayneKenobe
User ID: 845805 United States 12/31/2009 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mass destruction seems to be the only way to rid this planet of these human parasitic types who destroy, kill and mame everything they lay their eyes on. Quoting: PurposeWas 822427NO! There's another way: Increase your Light/Love out-put! And as for the evil: It will destroy itself.....it always does! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 631265 United States 12/31/2009 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the reason we were created to start with was so that god could reproduce himself. He wanted children. Not much different than when humans want children. When you have children you want them to be good. nobody wants a child that rapes and murders and is out of control. God has the power to scratch out a bad batch and start again. Quoting: NeesieAnd you can honestly say that you don't think humanity hit this point a long time ago... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 838362 United States 12/31/2009 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I come on here and it saddens me to see how you are all so confused and how you can do the same exact thing in your hearts that caused our creator to destroy mankind with the flood in the first place. You are all full of your own vain imaginations of your hearts and try to limit your creator by putting on him your own foolishness. |
ObeWayneKenobe
User ID: 845805 United States 12/31/2009 03:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Metonic cycle? could be this or just the end of the last Ice Age. It depends on the date we suppose this catastroph took place (in the specific region of the old world). Quoting: Ostria15,000 - 9,000 bc (end of the last Ice Age) 5000 bc (the caspian flood theory) Yes, that would probably be the physical manifestation..... |
Full Circle
User ID: 853031 Canada 12/31/2009 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mass destruction seems to be the only way to rid this planet of these human parasitic types who destroy, kill and mame everything they lay their eyes on. Quoting: ObeWayneKenobeNO! There's another way: Increase your Light/Love out-put! And as for the evil: It will destroy itself.....it always does! That's what I'm watching. And you can see it happening. It has to destruct. And it's destruction is a time of awakening. Born into this World We create echoes of our inward yearnings And Shift along the Axis From matter to Spirit - Scott Mutter |
ObeWayneKenobe
User ID: 845805 United States 12/31/2009 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bingo!! I've called it the breath of Sophia myself. Quoting: Full CircleInteresting......why the name "Sophia"? Because Sophia (to me) is the feminine counterpart of the androgynous nature of God. Creation and Wisdom combined. Cool.....it's a beautiful name! Makes me think of Sophia Loren(wowsa!) ;) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 815916 United States 12/31/2009 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I come on here and it saddens me to see how you are all so confused and how you can do the same exact thing in your hearts that caused our creator to destroy mankind with the flood in the first place. You are all full of your own vain imaginations of your hearts and try to limit your creator by putting on him your own foolishness. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 838362You do just fine with your own limitations. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 557645 United States 12/31/2009 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This place get worse and worse. Doesn't anybody research anything any more? The purpose of the flood was to wipe out the angel human hybrids en masse. Most of the nephilim were destroyed in order to save the bloodline of Jesus from being infiltrated. But, if you want you can listen all of the idiots around here that will say "It's because the evil of mankind was increasingly wicked...blah blah..." Have fun with that one... |
HardTruth
User ID: 848661 United States 12/31/2009 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This place get worse and worse. Doesn't anybody research anything any more? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 557645The purpose of the flood was to wipe out the angel human hybrids en masse. Most of the nephilim were destroyed in order to save the bloodline of Jesus from being infiltrated. But, if you want you can listen all of the idiots around here that will say "It's because the evil of mankind was increasingly wicked...blah blah..." Have fun with that one... I thought you said you do homework, I see no results of this in your response!! Talk about blah...blah...blah!! ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! |