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What was the purpose of the Biblical Flood? It appears there was none. | |
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e-watchman
 User ID: 825529 United States12/31/2009 07:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The purpose of the Flood was to destroy the families of freaks (nephilim) the materialized angels had fathered and force the angels back into the spirit realm, where Jehovah then put the clamps on them to prevent them from taking on flesh in the future. [link to www.biblegateway.com] [link to jehovah-has-become-king.com] Last Edited by e-watchman on 12/31/2009 07:48 AM "Jehovah is a manly person of war. Jehovah is his name." Exodus 15:3 |
| The Professor (OP) User ID: 660063 United States12/31/2009 07:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it was an indian story. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 839507do your research. the bible is a collection of stories and myths from the region. a nice starting book for pre schoolers. I have probably done more research than you because I am aware of hundreds of similar stories about the Flood. However, I was obviously limiting my question to the Christian belief in the Biblical Flood. My purpose of this thread (and there will be more) is to get Christians to think, really think and question, the book they claim to be the complete, inspired and inerrant word of God. But thank you for your comments. |
| The Professor (OP) User ID: 660063 United States12/31/2009 07:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | because he can do what he wants to-no explanation needed for tiny evil human Quoting: Anonymous Coward 790181Actually, a good answer since an omniscient and omnipotent being need not answer to any mortal, especially me. However, I was addressing the Old Testament account which was written by mortals, and I questioned whether that account give a legitimate reason for the Flood. I did not think it did, but that is only my own personal opinion. Thanks you for your response. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 807883 United States12/31/2009 07:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was a coverstory for poleshift & Planet X. Had to have something that they could understand. Not just a natural event. They needed a reason. Not just another day on a rock floating through space with other rocks. No the people are Bad! |
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| Neesie
User ID: 853666 United States12/31/2009 07:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the reason we were created to start with was so that god could reproduce himself. He wanted children. Not much different than when humans want children. When you have children you want them to be good. nobody wants a child that rapes and murders and is out of control. God has the power to scratch out a bad batch and start again. .A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell. C. S. Lewis |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 793845 United States12/31/2009 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my view Genesis is an esoteric allegory not easily understood and not a literal description of historical events. In Rev 17:15 the waters are described as: "The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues." Waters represent the unconscious chaos, the undifferentiated unity, from which life emerges. Revelation describes humanity as being in an unconscious state. Though we may think we are conscious we are as oblivious to what is really going on and what we are a part of as the unconscious dead. That is why Jesus said, "Let the dead bury their dead." Humanity has not yet come to full consciousness, but is a work in progress. The waters have not yet dried from the surface of the earth. The Flood is here now. So is the Babel Tower. It stands erect on the earth today in the minds of humanity. As to the specific question of why the two identical statements by the supposed deity before and after the Flood... I don't know..... hadn't noticed that before and therefore haven't thought about it. Good observation. I've found it helpful to look at the meaning of individual Hebrew words when trying to unravel the story. I'll take a look at that. |
| Yandoobiez User ID: 853774 United States12/31/2009 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | because he can do what he wants to-no explanation needed for tiny evil human Quoting: Anonymous Coward 790181To kill the remaining giants (those half-human critters that got made when the fallen ones mated with human females - nephilim). |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 617593 United States12/31/2009 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The purpose of the Flood was to destroy the families of freaks (nephilim) the materialized angels had fathered and force the angels back into the spirit realm, where Jehovah then put the clamps on them to prevent them from taking on flesh in the future. Quoting: e-watchmanBINGO! Read the lost book of Enoch |
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| Sir Marmaduke Tweng
User ID: 773761 United Kingdom12/31/2009 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not biblical but a distorted memory of the climatic mess at the end of the last ice age Egger of the Prophets of the Lard and pooh pooh on your JuJu since 1000000 B.C.E This is how Liberty dies-To the sound of rapturous applause... Proud member of the GLP Atheist Alliance |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 849249 United States12/31/2009 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think that none of the events told of in the Old Testament make alot sense, unless you allow yourself to accept that there is a spiritual world, who's events deeply affect our own. For instance, the Tower of Babel story makes no sense, if you don't look deeper. Do you really believe God would be threatened by the height of a building? Obviously there was more to this building than meets the eye of the casual observer. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 809526 United States12/31/2009 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you know the bible doesnt contain the only version of the great flood. have you read any of the other accounts of it?if your curious enough, do some research, learn all the different sides of the story then choose for yourself. |
| ZTE
User ID: 779033 United States12/31/2009 11:30 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So God destroyed the world by water to preserve humanity. Of course, water is a cleansing agent. Meaning you can wash your clothes, but it won't get all the dirt out. Or, you can wash the dirt off a bar of gold, but it won't get any of the impurities out of the gold. So when God said he would later destroy the Earth by fire, it means he will purify the Earth. (Fire is a method of purification). The only way to purify a bar of gold is by throwing it into the fire and separate the metals from one another. Likewise, he will separate all the sin and ungodliness from the Earth by means of fire and sulfur (another purifying agent). |
| The professor (OP) User ID: 660063 United States12/31/2009 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Honestly Professor, I've had problems with that story as well, and have yet to come up with a good answer. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 849249Perhaps it was only to show mankind who was in charge. Seems a bit of overkill, though, doesn't it? I think so, but then who am I to tell. |
| Full Circle
User ID: 853031  Canada12/31/2009 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My purpose of this thread (and there will be more) is to get Christians to think, really think and question, the book they claim to be the complete, inspired and inerrant word of God. Quoting: The Professor 660063Good luck with that! Born into this World We create echoes of our inward yearnings And Shift along the Axis From matter to Spirit - Scott Mutter |
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| Elijah
User ID: 560289 United States12/31/2009 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Honestly Professor, I've had problems with that story as well, and have yet to come up with a good answer. Quoting: The professor 660063Perhaps it was only to show mankind who was in charge. Seems a bit of overkill, though, doesn't it? I think so, but then who am I to tell. The idea that Noah was perfect in his generations is taken to mean he was the only man whose bloodline had not been polluted by the mating of the Teraphim and humans. Like someone else said, the answers lay with Enoch. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 853559 United States12/31/2009 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, but the evil is restrained in God's people. God wiped out pagan's world enslavement. If you are calling God unjust you are exacly the pagan God wiped out. You only support global enslavement and all the problems of the world by not walking with God. You walk with God or you walk with the wicked. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 849249 United States12/31/2009 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Honestly Professor, I've had problems with that story as well, and have yet to come up with a good answer. Quoting: ElijahPerhaps it was only to show mankind who was in charge. Seems a bit of overkill, though, doesn't it? I think so, but then who am I to tell. The idea that Noah was perfect in his generations is taken to mean he was the only man whose bloodline had not been polluted by the mating of the Teraphim and humans. Like someone else said, the answers lay with Enoch. Could have been. That's one theory. Remember that in the garden, God told the serpent the seed of Eve would crush his seed. Who was this seed? |
| Elijah
User ID: 673980 United States12/31/2009 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could have been. That's one theory. Remember that in the garden, God told the serpent the seed of Eve would crush his seed. Who was this seed? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 849249I'd go with a multifaceted meaning, but point taken. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 849249 United States12/31/2009 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done” (Genesis 8:21, KJV, highlights my own). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 853559Yes, but the evil is restrained in God's people. God wiped out pagan's world enslavement. If you are calling God unjust you are exacly the pagan God wiped out. You only support global enslavement and all the problems of the world by not walking with God. You walk with God or you walk with the wicked. Remember that God's plan involved the Messiah. The seed of Eve that would crush the serpent. Noah was perfect in his generations. After the flood, after the reset, this perfect generation separated into 3 lines, one of which would bring Messiah. |
| HardTruth
User ID: 848661 United States12/31/2009 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to all the ancient texts Earth was once a moon of Saturn, and then we weren't, then Earth at one time had three moons, then none, and now only the one!! Einstein is famous for his quote of, "God doesn't play dice with the Universe." Maybe not dice, but it seems he likes bowling!! From all the erratic planets changing of their orbits and Earth being the pin for other planatary bowling balls, one must ask, "who the hell is in charge"? Velikovsky in his works proved that it looks like no one is in charge of squat, and this brings to mind the term of "Shit Happens!!" ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! |
| 9teen.47™
User ID: 756434 United Kingdom12/31/2009 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  If you would like to know more about Noah's Flood from a biblical point of view. IT'S COMING!...[link to www.chick.com] Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 12/31/2009 01:47 PM Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God. Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman]. STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children. |
