What was the purpose of the Biblical Flood? It appears there was none. | |
Full Circle
User ID: 853031 Canada 12/31/2009 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bingo!! I've called it the breath of Sophia myself. Quoting: ObeWayneKenobeInteresting......why the name "Sophia"? Because Sophia (to me) is the feminine counterpart of the androgynous nature of God. Creation and Wisdom combined. Cool.....it's a beautiful name! Makes me think of Sophia Loren(wowsa!) ;) Look into the Pistis Sophia. Born into this World We create echoes of our inward yearnings And Shift along the Axis From matter to Spirit - Scott Mutter |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 822427 Canada 12/31/2009 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mass destruction seems to be the only way to rid this planet of these human parasitic types who destroy, kill and mame everything they lay their eyes on. Quoting: ObeWayneKenobeNO! There's another way: Increase your Light/Love out-put! And as for the evil: It will destroy itself.....it always does! The only way is destruction. This heap of shit society was and has always been destined to destruction. And with it, humans. If things are not based on universalism(utter equality for all) it will fail. It always has. And life will continue on for eternity through birth and destruction until universalism becomes the reality. |
Floyd007
User ID: 832087 United States 12/31/2009 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done” Quoting: The Professor 660063So what was the purpose of the Biblical Flood. It appears there was none. Ever heard of the winepress of the gods? God is the elder of unimaginable evil. Killing people just for the sake of it and drinking their blood like wine is god's idea of fun. Just read your old testament. And don't go on about Jesus coming to create a new covenant, and all that. Read revelation and its still a blood splattered ending for most people. . . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 557645 United States 12/31/2009 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This place get worse and worse. Doesn't anybody research anything any more? Quoting: HardTruthThe purpose of the flood was to wipe out the angel human hybrids en masse. Most of the nephilim were destroyed in order to save the bloodline of Jesus from being infiltrated. But, if you want you can listen all of the idiots around here that will say "It's because the evil of mankind was increasingly wicked...blah blah..." Have fun with that one... I thought you said you do homework, I see no results of this in your response!! Talk about blah...blah...blah!! ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! HardTruth? Bwahahaha! You wouldn't know the truth if your boyfrind stuffed it up yourass and stiched your rectum shut! Go be mean to the christians like you always do. |
ObeWayneKenobe
User ID: 845805 United States 12/31/2009 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mass destruction seems to be the only way to rid this planet of these human parasitic types who destroy, kill and mame everything they lay their eyes on. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 822427NO! There's another way: Increase your Light/Love out-put! And as for the evil: It will destroy itself.....it always does! -------- The only way is destruction. This heap of shit society was and has always been destined to destruction. And with it, humans. If things are not based on universalism(utter equality for all) it will fail. It always has. And life will continue on for eternity through birth and destruction until universalism becomes the reality. Not this time: For mankind has progressed to a point that the self-destruction of this planet would cause the ripple affect out into the cosmos.....to many other inhabited planets! And so petition was made to NOT allow that to happen again......and it's been granted! Last Edited by ObeWayneKenobe on 12/31/2009 03:25 PM |
ObeWayneKenobe
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 822427 Canada 12/31/2009 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not this time: For mankind has progressed to a point that the self-destruction of this planet would cause the ripple affect out in the cosmos.....to many other inhabited planets! And so petition was made to NOT allow that to happen again......and it's been granted! Quoting: ObeWayneKenobeThe planet isn't going anywhere, humans are, and that was my point. |
ObeWayneKenobe
User ID: 845805 United States 12/31/2009 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not this time: For mankind has progressed to a point that the self-destruction of this planet would cause the ripple affect out in the cosmos.....to many other inhabited planets! And so petition was made to NOT allow that to happen again......and it's been granted! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 822427---------- The planet isn't going anywhere, humans are, and that was my point. Matter is NEVER destroyed, only changed into something else......but I see your point! However, there are certain elite Satanic beings out there right now, who fully intend to blow-up this planet if they can't have their way(they have done it before)......they are trying to hold us hostage! And that is what must be countered by our 'Lighted Mind Sets'......if you can understand my meaning. peace! |
ObeWayneKenobe
User ID: 845805 United States 12/31/2009 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ever heard of the winepress of the gods? God is the elder of unimaginable evil. Killing people just for the sake of it and drinking their blood like wine is god's idea of fun. Just read your old testament. And don't go on about Jesus coming to create a new covenant, and all that. Read revelation and its still a blood splattered ending for most people. Quoting: Floyd007Yes, the bible IS Lucifer's blue-print for Armageddon! :( |
Full Circle
User ID: 853031 Canada 12/31/2009 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not this time: For mankind has progressed to a point that the self-destruction of this planet would cause the ripple affect out in the cosmos.....to many other inhabited planets! And so petition was made to NOT allow that to happen again......and it's been granted! Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe---------- The planet isn't going anywhere, humans are, and that was my point. Matter is NEVER destroyed, only changed into something else......but I see your point! However, there are certain elite Satanic beings out there right now, who fully intend to blow-up this planet if they can't have their way(they have done it before)......they are trying to hold us hostage! And that is what must be countered by our 'Lighted Mind Sets'......if you can understand my meaning. peace! I think I tend to agree with the ac poster. There is no control by any other beings. There is no "their way". No one is holding us hostage. Only our selves. And our dilemma and fight we have in the duality that is the physical universe. There is no separation. You have to come to terms with the struggles you face and realize that all things are one. You have to put your self together first. Once you get the self together, you can see that there is no separation. Born into this World We create echoes of our inward yearnings And Shift along the Axis From matter to Spirit - Scott Mutter |
ObeWayneKenobe
User ID: 845805 United States 12/31/2009 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think I tend to agree with the ac poster. There is no control by any other beings. There is no "their way". No one is holding us hostage. Only our selves. And our dilemma and fight we have in the duality that is the physical universe. Quoting: Full CircleI disagree: There's always somebody who hasn't learned yet, who misuses the power for self ego stroking! Take hypnosis for example: Mass hypnosis is nothing more than a projected light beam which is capable of tampering with the minds of mass populations!(happened on 911).......this technology is already perfected! Surly you know this? |
HardTruth
User ID: 848661 United States 12/31/2009 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This place get worse and worse. Doesn't anybody research anything any more? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 557645The purpose of the flood was to wipe out the angel human hybrids en masse. Most of the nephilim were destroyed in order to save the bloodline of Jesus from being infiltrated. But, if you want you can listen all of the idiots around here that will say "It's because the evil of mankind was increasingly wicked...blah blah..." Have fun with that one... I thought you said you do homework, I see no results of this in your response!! Talk about blah...blah...blah!! ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! HardTruth? Bwahahaha! You wouldn't know the truth if your boyfrind stuffed it up yourass and stiched your rectum shut! Go be mean to the christians like you always do. lol...youre a funny one, go ask your girlfriend how much HardTruth I possess!! ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! |
Full Circle
User ID: 853031 Canada 12/31/2009 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think I tend to agree with the ac poster. There is no control by any other beings. There is no "their way". No one is holding us hostage. Only our selves. And our dilemma and fight we have in the duality that is the physical universe. Quoting: ObeWayneKenobeI disagree: There's always somebody who hasn't learned yet, who misuses the power for self ego stroking! Take hypnosis for example: Mass hypnosis is nothing more than a projected light beam which is capable of tampering with the minds of mass populations!(happened on 911).......this technology is already perfected! Surly you know this? And just as surely, you understand that it is up to each one of us to not be conditioned? Up to each one of us to let go of the material for the spiritual. What do you think Jesus' three temptations were? It's the same temptations we all are given. And it's our own responsibility to overcome them. Analogies and parables. Consistent throughout mythology, religion, and ancient texts. Born into this World We create echoes of our inward yearnings And Shift along the Axis From matter to Spirit - Scott Mutter |
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Full Circle
User ID: 853031 Canada 12/31/2009 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The flood was a natural occurence. You'd be wiser to ask, what caused the flood. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744650Yep. Ahhh, the Lotus follower. Ahhh. The bible cult follower. What is your problem with me? Born into this World We create echoes of our inward yearnings And Shift along the Axis From matter to Spirit - Scott Mutter |
ObeWayneKenobe
User ID: 845805 United States 12/31/2009 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think I tend to agree with the ac poster. There is no control by any other beings. There is no "their way". No one is holding us hostage. Only our selves. And our dilemma and fight we have in the duality that is the physical universe. Quoting: Full CircleI disagree: There's always somebody who hasn't learned yet, who misuses the power for self ego stroking! Take hypnosis for example: Mass hypnosis is nothing more than a projected light beam which is capable of tampering with the minds of mass populations!(happened on 911).......this technology is already perfected! Surly you know this? And just as surely, you understand that it is up to each one of us to not be conditioned? Up to each one of us to let go of the material for the spiritual. What do you think Jesus' three temptations were? It's the same temptations we all are given. And it's our own responsibility to overcome them. Analogies and parables. Consistent throughout mythology, religion, and ancient texts. Yes, I agree......it falls to us to perfect our own abilities(with Gods gentle help - IMO)! Last Edited by ObeWayneKenobe on 12/31/2009 04:01 PM |
Full Circle
User ID: 853031 Canada 12/31/2009 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, I agree......it falls to us to perfect our own abilities(with Gods gentle help - IMO)! Quoting: ObeWayneKenobeOf course. The more light we let in, the easier our path is seen. Never say that another is in control. It's only you. In control of you. And only you, that has the ability to see the light and work with it. No one is between you and God. Born into this World We create echoes of our inward yearnings And Shift along the Axis From matter to Spirit - Scott Mutter |
HardTruth
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nomuse (NLI) User ID: 834029 United States 12/31/2009 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the reason we were created to start with was so that god could reproduce himself. He wanted children. Not much different than when humans want children. When you have children you want them to be good. nobody wants a child that rapes and murders and is out of control. God has the power to scratch out a bad batch and start again. Quoting: NeesieSo why didn't he? Eve sins. Does he start from scratch? No, it's go ahead and fill the world with your kind. Hey presto, here's some un-named extra women for all your sons. Eventually he gets so tired of it, he offs 99.999% of them. Starting from scratch, what? No...saving Noah and his sons; all still children of Eve. Err, what was that about starting over again? Nope, he made Man ONCE, dammit, and no matter how many times he has to chase him and his progeny around, kill all their neighbors, lie to them, whatever, one day they might actually learn to behave. |
Sumo
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 781623 United States 12/31/2009 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The story of the Biblical Flood brings to mind one of the most confusing issues in the Bible, one that few Christians will talk about. I haven't read anything about it on GLP, so here it is. This is the reason the Old Testament God gave for destroying every man, woman and child except for Noah and his family: “And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth Quoting: The Professor 660063Same reason New Orleans was baptized. Same reason the earth will eventually be baptized with fire. Evil takes its toll on God's sense of justice. Eventually He is duty bound to act, its not a choice. God doesn't destroy things because He feels good or bad about something. He is accountable to destroy people, towns, nations when they are depraved. |
rb User ID: 854116 United States 12/31/2009 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | interesting passage post flood the removal of the people did not abrogate our sin nature -- it continued on through Noah and his family notice it says God promised not to curse the land again for man's sake so He promised not to destroy the world through flood again -- we have the bow in the sky as a sign ultimately He told the end from the beginning -- the seed of Eve will bruise the serpent's head. Noah came down from Adam and eve. we follow the lineage down through Abraham Isaac and Jacob -- then Judah through David on down to Jesus -- the ultimate sacrifice to take away the sin of the world. our flesh isn't saved -- the Spirit is willing the flesh is weak. in this flesh nothing good dwells. we are washed clean, sanctified, made holy only through the Blood of Jesus Christ -- Blood He shed for our sins. when we believe on Him we exchange our sins -- nailed to the cross with Him -- for His righteousness freely given. by His grace through our faith we are saved. this is the Lord's sovereign plan for the world -- that we may be redeemed by the Blood of the Lamb. it's called propitiation. as in the days of Noah so shall His second coming be -- people will be going about their everyday lives. destruction will come suddenly. not by flood this time, but by the many judgments outlined in revelation. and there will continue to be scoffers right up until the end, saying where is the promise of His coming? everything continues as always. but just as Jesus literally fulfilled the prophecies of His first advent, so He shall fulfill the many prophecies of His second advent -- which is imminent. we are not to sit in the seat of the scornful. we are told to trust in the Lord our God and LEAN NOT UNTO OUR OWN UNDERSTANDING -- He will make straight our paths. we can rest in Him, being not anxious for anything, casting all our cares upon Him. this is His will for us. soon those who dwell on the earth hearts will be failing them for fear of the things coming upon the world. as Christians we are told to lift up our heads our redemption draws nigh. we desire to depart to be with the Lord which is far better. while here we are ambassadors for Christ -- pointing to Him and proclaiming the good news -- Jesus died for our sins and rose from the dead to give us the free gift of eternal life. it's so simple a little child can grasp it, yet the wise are confounded. the Bible tells us not to be wise in our own eyes. we are rather to be transformed by the renewing of our minds, taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. Jesus told us He is the Way the Truth and the Life, and that no one comes to the Father except by Him. I take Him at His Word. love peace and joy rb |
The Professor (OP) User ID: 660063 United States 01/01/2010 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The flood was a natural occurence. You'd be wiser to ask, what caused the flood. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 853912I am aware of the natural cause. The purpose of my article was to question how Christians who believe the Biblical account of the Flood could justify God's action given that God's reason for destroying mankind (except for Noah's family) and His reason for promising never to do it again were the same. Thank you for your response. |
The Professor (OP) User ID: 660063 United States 01/01/2010 02:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, it doesn't make sense, but if you look at it from the point of view that the Anunnaki wanted life wiped out, it makes sense. Well no, that doesn't make sense either. How could an alien life form have that kind of power? They knew it was coming beforehand. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 815916Zecharia Sitchin would agree with you. According to Sitchin's book, The 12th Planet, the Anunnaki/Nefilim were aware that the Antarctic ice shelf was about ready to slide into the ocean causing catastrophic flooding. A Decision was made not to inform mankind of the coming event so they would perish. However, one of the Anunnaki leaders (named Enki) warned one of the humans so that he could escape the flood by building a submersible craft (with help of course). The episodes of this human, (Ziusudra in Sumerian, Utnapishtim in Akkadian) were most likely the source for the Biblical story of Noah and the Flood. Sitchin believes that the Anunnaki were well aware that the Earth had had similar floods in the past, and they set up monitoring systems to record the movement of the ice shelf. Apparently, the approach of Planet X was expected to be the triggering event. Sitchin places this Flood at around 13,000 BC, which is 15,000 year ago. Since Planet X comes into our solar system every 3,600 years (some researchers claim up to 3,700 years), 15,000 years is equal to 4 such orbits. Oh-oh! |
The Professor (OP) User ID: 660063 United States 01/01/2010 02:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thank you all for your responses. If I said anything to offend anyone, I am truly sorry. Since I started this thread, I felt as though I was inviting you into my home and I should have treated each one of you with respect. A special message to the poster who said what I wrote was the dumbest thing he's ever read: Sir, I assure you that in my long life time, I have said and done much dumber things. I am not offended. Have a good day. Now, I will leave this thread without further comment. You all have the last word. I'm an old man, so be gentle. |
Elijah
User ID: 560289 United States 01/01/2010 03:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thank you all for your responses. If I said anything to offend anyone, I am truly sorry. Since I started this thread, I felt as though I was inviting you into my home and I should have treated each one of you with respect. Quoting: The Professor 660063A special message to the poster who said what I wrote was the dumbest thing he's ever read: Sir, I assure you that in my long life time, I have said and done much dumber things. I am not offended. Have a good day. Now, I will leave this thread without further comment. You all have the last word. I'm an old man, so be gentle. No problems here. I figure we have eternity to sort out all the details and history. Besides, it's fun to speculate. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 848712 Canada 01/01/2010 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what was the purpose of the Biblical Flood. It appears there was none. Quoting: The Professor 660063You're right, there was none. You see, the biblical 'god' had absolutely no control over the flood. Oh yeah, he loves to try and make humanity think he did, but the truth is, he didn't. The REAL cause of the great flood was Planet X/the Destroyer/Nibiru/the Red Comet/Nemesis/; and what the bible calls Wormwood. The ancient god/s have no more control of this event than do me or you. |
hbsm User ID: 211536 United States 01/01/2010 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The purpose of the Flood was to destroy the families of freaks (nephilim) the materialized angels had fathered and force the angels back into the spirit realm, where Jehovah then put the clamps on them to prevent them from taking on flesh in the future. [link to www.biblegateway.com] Quoting: e-watchman[link to jehovah-has-become-king.com] Well gians were around after the flood and they were cross breeds another epic fail,maybe god should have tried giving the nephiliams AIDS and msg in their diet... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 848712 Canada 01/01/2010 11:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, it doesn't make sense, but if you look at it from the point of view that the Anunnaki wanted life wiped out, it makes sense. Well no, that doesn't make sense either. How could an alien life form have that kind of power? They knew it was coming beforehand. Quoting: The Professor 660063Zecharia Sitchin would agree with you. According to Sitchin's book, The 12th Planet, the Anunnaki/Nefilim were aware that the Antarctic ice shelf was about ready to slide into the ocean causing catastrophic flooding. A Decision was made not to inform mankind of the coming event so they would perish. However, one of the Anunnaki leaders (named Enki) warned one of the humans so that he could escape the flood by building a submersible craft (with help of course). The episodes of this human, (Ziusudra in Sumerian, Utnapishtim in Akkadian) were most likely the source for the Biblical story of Noah and the Flood. Sitchin believes that the Anunnaki were well aware that the Earth had had similar floods in the past, and they set up monitoring systems to record the movement of the ice shelf. Apparently, the approach of Planet X was expected to be the triggering event. Sitchin places this Flood at around 13,000 BC, which is 15,000 year ago. Since Planet X comes into our solar system every 3,600 years (some researchers claim up to 3,700 years), 15,000 years is equal to 4 such orbits. Oh-oh! Oh-oh, is right!! TPTB are doing the same thing all over again!! They're preparing a 'safe' place for themselves (Space-station), and keeping the world in ignorance of what is about to happen. However, I don't think TPTB are prepared for an ascension of human consciousness. Somehow I have a feeling this time around it will be TPTB who will be the big losers. |