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What was the purpose of the Biblical Flood? It appears there was none.

 
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The story of the Biblical Flood brings to mind one of the most confusing issues in the Bible, one that few Christians will talk about. I haven't read anything about it on GLP, so here it is.

This is the reason the Old Testament God gave for destroying every man, woman and child except for Noah and his family:

“And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them” (Genesis 6:5-7, KJV, highlights my own).

And this is the reason the Old Testament God promised never to destroy mankind again.

“And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done” (Genesis 8:21, KJV, highlights my own).

So the omniscient God destroyed most of mankind because they were inherently sinful, and he promised never to do it again because....they were inherently sinful! As they so eloquently say on the GLP forum: WTF??

Here is what bothers me: If the reason for destroying humanity and the reason for promising never to do it again are the same, what was the purpose of killing so many people? According to God Himself, He knew mankind would continue to be just as evil (and they have), so not one damn thing had changed. The Flood thus appears to be a senseless act of unparalleled cruelty.

So what was the purpose of the Biblical Flood. It appears there was none.
 Quoting: The Professor 660063


Hey friend, Google The Book of Enoch and read it, and then everything will become clear.
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A continent was flooded, not the entire planet. This is a version from a very early bible, from a time before the Egyptians adapted it into the story of Noah that we have today.

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from Oahspe - The story of the Flood

And I, the Lord, Son of Jehovih, gave a certain commandment to man, saying: Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy soul, thy wisdom and strength. But man had little strength in this matter; neither did I ask for more than he could give. And another commandment was: Thou shalt not kill; the which had man obeyed, there had been no war in the world.

In like manner gave I the light of heaven unto all men, but my enemies perverted my words in order to justify themselves in sin. For the Father so dwelleth in man that man can judge of truth and holiness. For if one man saith: The Lord said: Thou shalt not kill; and yet another man saith: The Lord saith, Thou shalt kill; then shall not any man mistake which is of the Lord in fact. For the Lord maketh not alive any man whom he desireth shall be killed.

Thus was my word perverted by man, and the little light which was not lost, man tried to obscure. Nevertheless, man multiplied and inhabited the earth over, building cities and nations and prospering in certain seasons in all things earthly. But as I came to the earth to develop the soul of man chiefly, and for his own ultimate happiness in the etherean worlds, I labored not with such as heeded me not, but suffered them to go on in their own conceit; and they became divided against one another, and war and pestilence and divers diseases came upon mortals, resulting in their further downfall.

And the spirits of those that denied me on earth, still denied me in heaven; and in their stubbornness and conceit continued to dwell with man on the earth. So that in the course of time the world was overrun by spirits of darkness, who knew not heaven. And it came to pass that my enemies slew my chosen on all hands.

In four great divisions of the earth, .. they left not one alive of the I'hin race. In Wagga (Pan) had I a remnant; and they were scattered far and near, and in separate places hiding away from their evil pursuers.

I had said unto them: Every living thing that groweth up out the ground shall be food for you; but of everything wherein is the breath of life, which is of blood and spirit, ye shall not eat. Who so sheddeth blood, wherein is life, by himself inviteth his own blood and spirit to the spoil. In likeness of God was man made heir of the earth and all things thereon.

Be ye fruitful and multiply; bring forth abundantly in remembrance of the Lord God of heaven and earth. And I gave the circumcision as a measure of the boundary of my chosen.

But there were giants (druks) in those days and in time after that; and my chosen came unto them, and they bare children to them also. And their flesh became corrupt, so that vermin inhabited them from the time of their birth to the time of death. And they became rotten in the head with catarrh; and in the throat with ulcers and running sores; and in the lungs and joints with the poison of death. And their offspring that was born unto them came forth afflicted with the sins of their fathers and mothers, to linger in misery or to die in infancy.

And they thus peopled heaven with untimely births and with spirits of darkness, who, in return, came back and re-afflicted mortals.

And I said: I will destroy man from the face of the earth; for the flesh of man is corrupt, for by the eating of flesh and unwise cohabitation hath he corrupted his race upon the earth.

And I, the Lord, called unto my chosen, who were persecuted and hidden away in the valleys and mountains, even on the tops of mountains.

And I said unto them: Because ye have kept my commandments, come forth and hear ye the word of the Lord your God. And they came forth from their hiding places, thousands and thousands of them. And I sent my angels unto them, saying:

Say ye unto my chosen: This is the word of the Lord your God: Ye have found favor in my sight, for ye alone of all that is on the earth have kept my commandments; and ye have seen righteousness in the seed of your generations.

Go to, therefore, and build ships sufficient unto my chosen, and get ye within, where none can pursue or destroy.

For behold, I will bring a flood of waters upon the earth, even above the highest mountains; for I will destroy the corruption thereof, and purge it of all uncleanness.

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It was God's way of erasing the board and starting over.
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The Professor is correct in this case.

"So the omniscient God destroyed most of mankind because they were inherently sinful, and he promised never to do it again because....they were inherently sinful! As they so eloquently say on the GLP forum: WTF??

Here is what bothers me: If the reason for destroying humanity and the reason for promising never to do it again are the same, what was the purpose of killing so many people? According to God Himself, He knew mankind would continue to be just as evil (and they have), so not one damn thing had changed. The Flood thus appears to be a senseless act of unparalleled cruelty."

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The purpose of the Flood was to destroy the families of freaks (nephilim) the materialized angels had fathered and force the angels back into the spirit realm, where Jehovah then put the clamps on them to prevent them from taking on flesh in the future. [link to www.biblegateway.com]
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Book of Genesis claims that the Nephilim came after as well, so the Professor is right in saying "omniscient God destroyed most of mankind (and nephilim) because they were inherently sinful, and he promised never to do it again because....they were inherently sinful!"

Genesis 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

Omniscient God knew they would come again, so why kill all of mankind along with the nephilim?

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Pole reversal or large meteor impact in the oceans.
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The simple answer is that the Earth was full of corruption and ungodliness (sin). It was also being taken over by what the Bible referred to as the nephilim. Of course, this can be taken a variety of ways, but the most common answer is that they are angel-human hybrids, who were killing all the humans. Thus, Noah (being of pure seed) meaning he was essentially the last human.
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The answer is in the Book of Enoch.

If you haven't read and accepted the book of Enoch as the originator of this story the Old and New Testament will never make any sense to you. According to you reply the Professor is correct. Book of Genesis claims that the Nephilim came after as well, so the Professor is right in saying "omniscient God destroyed most of mankind (and nephilim) because they were inherently sinful, and he promised never to do it again because....they were inherently sinful!"

Genesis 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

Omniscient God knew they would come again, so why kill all of mankind along with the nephilim?

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The answer is not to destroy the Nephilim, these were killed off before the flood, the Book of Enoch makes this clear. Holy GOD can chew gum and walk at the same time. If you haven't read and accepted the book of Enoch as the originator of this story the Old and New Testament will never make any sense to you.

Book of Enoch
Chapter 10

13 -- To Gabriel also the LORD said, Go to the biters, to the reprobates, to the children of fornication; and destroy the children of fornication, the offspring of the Watchers, from among men; bring them forth, and excite them one against another. Let them perish by mutual slaughter; for length of days shall not be theirs.

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the flood was the keep the blood line of Adam and Eve pure!!


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Think about the flood as spiritual

Spiritual water flooded the Earth and Noah's belief system remained as the ruling belief system then humanity began growing from there.


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 Quoting: SpiritofTruth NewJerUSAlemRuss

You're on the right track Russ. Almost half right, almost.

The answer is coming, must finish the thread, on page 2.

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Here is what bothers me: If the reason for destroying humanity and the reason for promising never to do it again are the same, what was the purpose of killing so many people? According to God Himself, He knew mankind would continue to be just as evil (and they have), so not one damn thing had changed. The Flood thus appears to be a senseless act of unparalleled cruelty.

So what was the purpose of the Biblical Flood. It appears there was none.

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I'm sorry but this must be the dumbest thing i have ever heard!
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You say that because this thread forces you to question the beliefs that have been indoctrinated into you and upon reflecting you are hit with the notion that old testament scriptures err at this junction so you decide to no longer question and explore any further, thus, the one asking you to question is dumb for even suggesting it.

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interesting passage post flood

the removal of the people did not abrogate our sin nature -- it continued on through Noah and his family
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Ahh rb stop shooting yourself in the foot.

If Noah and family was sinning then biblical God played favorites upon these sinners.

notice it says God promised not to curse the land again for man's sake

so He promised not to destroy the world through flood again -- we have the bow in the sky as a sign
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You haven't answered the question: "So what was the purpose of the Biblical Flood."

ultimately He told the end from the beginning -- the seed of Eve will bruise the serpent's head. Noah came down from Adam and eve. we follow the lineage down through Abraham Isaac and Jacob -- then Judah through David on down to Jesus -- the ultimate sacrifice to take away the sin of the world.
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You haven't answered the question: "So what was the purpose of the Biblical Flood."

our flesh isn't saved -- the Spirit is willing the flesh is weak. in this flesh nothing good dwells. we are washed clean, sanctified, made holy only through the Blood of Jesus Christ -- Blood He shed for our sins.
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What the fawk does this have to do with the Flood?
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Why would God kill almost every man, women and child because they were inherently evil, and then promise never to do it again because...mankind was inherently evil? It just didn't make sense to me.

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While I don't agree with it, I do recall reading one commentary in which the author speculated that the flood was a natural phenomenon God was simply aware of and for some reason could not stop so He took responsibility / blame and provided a means of escape. The fact there were only 8 survivors was not his choice but that of the people who refused to head the warnings.
 Quoting: Elijah

A natural phenomena would have reoccurred, but according to scriptures it was never to be again, GOD doesn't go against Nature for GOD created nature.

The answer given by those commentary is infantile and uneducated in the field of scriptures.

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Hey friend, Google The Book of Enoch and read it, and then everything will become clear.
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Bingo. hf

because he can do what he wants to-no explanation needed for tiny evil human

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Actually, a good answer since an omniscient and omnipotent being need not answer to any mortal, especially me.

However, I was addressing the Old Testament account which was written by mortals, and I questioned whether that account give a legitimate reason for the Flood. I did not think it did, but that is only my own personal opinion.

Thanks you for your response.
 Quoting: The Professor 660063

My purpose of this thread (and there will be more) is to get Christians to think, really think and question, the book they claim to be the complete, inspired and inerrant word of God.

But thank you for your comments.
 Quoting: The Professor 660063

And think you've made them do, and the answer to your question Professor lay written in the pages of the original book of this story by the original author and grand father to Noah, (Enoch).

The Flood has its purpose, GOD felt sorry for Mankind seeing them suffer in the pain of sin and took the liberty to cut short their time frame mankind would endure in suffering.

Book of Enoch
Chapter 66

8 -- And in those days shall these waters be to kings, to princes, to the exalted, and to the inhabitants of the earth, for the healing of the soul and body, and for the judgment of the spirit.

If you haven't read and accepted the Book of Enoch as the originator of this story the Old and New Testament will never make any sense to you. Never.

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the flood was the keep the blood line of Adam and Eve pure!!
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Nonsense!
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the flood,sodom and gomorah, the second coming of christ, all serve the purpose of eradicating sin. it spreads like a desease.
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the flood,sodom and gomorah, the second coming of christ, all serve the purpose of eradicating sin. it spreads like a desease.
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Well, so does death........but does it really? You CAN'T "eradicate" sin......you can only learn to NOT go there!
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because he can do what he wants to-no explanation needed for tiny evil human


Actually, a good answer since an omniscient and omnipotent being need not answer to any mortal, especially me.

However, I was addressing the Old Testament account which was written by mortals, and I questioned whether that account give a legitimate reason for the Flood. I did not think it did, but that is only my own personal opinion.

Thanks you for your response.
 Quoting: The Professor 660063

What's more you are addressing a particulare English Language Translation based in the Masoretic choice of vowel markings of a Hebrew text, an dif using the LXX you would also more than likely be using an English Translation of the LXX.

Does it not bother anyone that the Masorets seemed to think they had kept tha accurate pronunciation and word definitions down through a 1,000 years? I sure bothers me. It has produced all sorts of apparent contradictions where there may have been none intended by the author.

OP does a good job in pointing out one of the many many apparent self-contradictions in Genesis alone, let alone the rest of the Old Testament.

These same apparent self-contradictions give even the most devote believing Bible Scholars a very hard time to 'solve'.

If one advances (in the KJV for instance) to the other side of the Flood of Noah, one finds Jehovah going down to Babel and confounding the language. What is the reason for doing this it gives (in the KJV)?

Gen 11:5-7 (KJV) And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded. (6) And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. (7) Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.

On account of their imaginations.. seems that the Flood was not enough to curtail the 'every imagination of the thoughts of his heart' being continually evil.

One should by all rights of 'sound scholarship' at least take a look at just who these "children of men" are that were building Babel and when they had come from. One discovers from the English texts (from the Masoretic Hebrew vowel markings) that these "children of men" were the downline descendants of Japheth, Ham, and Shem (and their wives of course).

Speaking of Shem, sometimes transliterated as "Sem" it is from this distant ancestor that the Semities get their name... take a very hard look at the Geneology of Shem and his descendants. Remember what you discover the next time you hear someone use the terem "anti-semitic'... curious, eh?

The resolving of these apparent contradictions is at the very heart of Biblical Research and Bible Study, in the course of finding the solution one has to use every possible document family line of the known existing texts and not confine one to any certain textual family like the Eramus Greek Textual family that KJV was translated from.

OP's question is indeed a sound question and not an unlearned one, nor an ignorant one.

Many theories have been advanced for the resolving of this very particular apparent self-contradiction.
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Honestly Professor, I've had problems with that story as well, and have yet to come up with a good answer.

Perhaps it was only to show mankind who was in charge. Seems a bit of overkill, though, doesn't it?
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To the Creator of the Elohyim, the Heavens, and the Earth, the death of one of His creatures is like it going ot sleep. He has all soverigen power to wake them back up from death, even if their dust and ashes be scattered across the Universe for a billion years.

All those that died in that flood will be resurrected... to face yet another judging (after who knows what transpires between them being returned to life and that judging) and sentences handed out.

As one is 'put under' for major surgery, so death is used by God in the same fashion. Anything God puts under He can wake up.

It is possible that sinning itself is the function and effects produced by a real physical virus, one so intimately encoded and absorbed in the Human DNA that mankind will always think that particular part is fully and completely human DNA... and never know to extract it and cut it out. If that forebidden fruit was a real physical fruit of a tree it could have contained such a virus, one fully capable of injecting its own genetic code into the Human genome at the male reproductive stem cell level as well as the somatic cells of both the man and the woman.
It is possible, I am not saying that is what happened.
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It is possible that sinning itself is the function and effects produced by a real physical virus, one so intimately encoded and absorbed in the Human DNA that mankind will always think that particular part is fully and completely human DNA... and never know to extract it and cut it out. If that forebidden fruit was a real physical fruit of a tree it could have contained such a virus, one fully capable of injecting its own genetic code into the Human genome at the male reproductive stem cell level as well as the somatic cells of both the man and the woman.
It is possible, I am not saying that is what happened.
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Actually, SIN simply means leaving your path.....which leads back to your Source.
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Same reason New Orleans was baptized. Same reason the earth will eventually be baptized with fire. Evil takes its toll on God's sense of justice. Eventually He is duty bound to act, its not a choice. God doesn't destroy things because He feels good or bad about something. He is accountable to destroy people, towns, nations when they are depraved.
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Same reason New Orleans was baptized. Same reason the earth will eventually be baptized with fire. Evil takes its toll on God's sense of justice. Eventually He is duty bound to act, its not a choice. God doesn't destroy things because He feels good or bad about something. He is accountable to destroy people, towns, nations when they are depraved.


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I disagree with this! God does NOT "destroy"! Evil destroys itself!!!
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the flood was the keep the blood line of Adam and Eve pure!!

Nonsense!
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Agreed! Complete NON-sense!!
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The simple answer is that the Earth was full of corruption and ungodliness (sin). It was also being taken over by what the Bible referred to as the nephilim. Of course, this can be taken a variety of ways, but the most common answer is that they are angel-human hybrids, who were killing all the humans. Thus, Noah (being of pure seed) meaning he was essentially the last human.
So God destroyed the world by water to preserve humanity. Of course, water is a cleansing agent. Meaning you can wash your clothes, but it won't get all the dirt out. Or, you can wash the dirt off a bar of gold, but it won't get any of the impurities out of the gold.

So when God said he would later destroy the Earth by fire, it means he will purify the Earth. (Fire is a method of purification). The only way to purify a bar of gold is by throwing it into the fire and separate the metals from one another. Likewise, he will separate all the sin and ungodliness from the Earth by means of fire and sulfur (another purifying agent).
 Quoting: ZTE

The alagorical alchemical interpretational theory could have some merit... but it too is but a theory... have you healed anyone of their illness from what you have learned by applying the alagorical theory of interpretation?

We watch Stars go SuperNova or Nova, is it so difficult to see the potential of the World (the human arrangment of human society) being destroyed by our own Sun going Nova - and literally perishing by fire, real physical fire that no flesn and blood creature can withstand? Only spirit can survive that fire.

Step back a minute and think through the repercutions of genetics of the 8 survivors of that flood.

(for a moment, just consider how far those 8 people could have walked in 120 Years... that is why it has to be refering to a global flood and not just some local event. Why change the story simply because you don't quite believe it, it is what it is as a story. Who thinks to change Lord of the Rings because they don't believe the story says what it says?)

But back to the genetics. This occured to me back when I was yet working with Genetic Algorithms for Optimalization solutions.

In Noah, you have approximately 3 Billion Base Pairs of DNA (plus Noah's mtDNA). In Noah's wife you have a second set of 3 Billion Base Pairs of DNA plus her mtDNA.

Japheth, Ham, and Shem, their DNA is some combination of Noah's and his wife's DNA (with her mtDNA). So there is another 9 Billion base pairs of DNA (and the corresponding mtDNA).

Then there is Japheth's wife's 3 billion base pairs of DNA and her own mtDNA.

Then there is Ham's wife's 3 billion base pairs of DNA and her own mtDNA.

Then there is Shem's wife's 3 billion base pairs of DNA and her own mtDNA.

It is basically from the genepool of three men and three women that the whole of the Human race continued, the 3 Sons and the 3 Sons wives. It is from the various combinations of 18 Billion Base Pairs of DNA (and mtDNA contributions) that the whole of the Human race springs anew.

Assumption is some what uniformitarian here, being that not much has changed DNA wise in the number of chromosomes nor the number of base pairs of DNA and mtDNA since those six people. Six, the number of Man. Three Men - Three Sixes, Japheth (6), Ham (6), and Shem (6). Of Man, By Man, For Man.

Now, under the influence of the doctrine of the Book of Enoch consider the addtional 'alien' DNA and perhaps mtDNA injected into the Human Genome before and after the Flood.. and things, well, get Complicated -- genetically speaking.

We do here begin to see some hint of the ocming racism contained in these doctrines -- and perhaps in the Parable of the Wheat and the Tares, but in that Parable it is not Mankind that does the separating out... but rather the Angels of God.
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The purpose of the Flood was to destroy the families of freaks (nephilim) the materialized angels had fathered and force the angels back into the spirit realm, where Jehovah then put the clamps on them to prevent them from taking on flesh in the future.

BINGO! Read the lost book of Enoch
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Wish that I could find it in the gif images of the Slavic and Coptic texts that yet exist, but better to find it in the paleao-Hebrew or whatever language it was written in, if it is guinue and what it says it is, then the original languages and writing forms it was first laid down in by its various 'scribes' then the language nor writing form need not be any known language nor writing method, known today...in fact it could have been encoded in cloth weaving fashion for all we really know about the origins of the Book of Enoch. If it is indeed a knowledge that passed through the Flood, then it is something to be very seriously considered.
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the flood was the keep the blood line of Adam and Eve pure!!

Nonsense!
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nope basic truth

satan heard that the seed of woman would due him in in the garden

the fallen ones had sex with the daughters on man



Bible truth deal with it



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Re: What was the purpose of the Biblical Flood? It appears there was none.
All men must die that they too shall be made alive. Likewise the Earth is a living entity.

4. Latter-day prophets teach that the Flood or the total immersion of the earth in water represents the earth’s required baptism. Elder John A. Widtsoe of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles explained: “Latter-day Saints look upon the earth as a living organism, one which is gloriously filling ‘the measure of its creation.’ They look upon the flood as a baptism of the earth, symbolizing a cleansing of the impurities of the past, and the beginning of a new life. This has been repeatedly taught by the leaders of the Church. The deluge was an immersion of the earth in water.” He writes that the removal of earth’s wicked inhabitants in the Flood represents that which occurs in our own baptism for the remission of sins. 13

5. The destruction of the disobedient at Noah’s time anticipates the devastation of the wicked at the time of Christ’s coming in glory, when the earth will receive its baptism by fire. The Prophet Joseph Smith taught, “In the days of Noah, God destroyed the world by a flood, and He has promised to destroy it by fire in the last days.” 14 The prophet Enoch saw in vision Noah’s ark, seeing “that the Lord smiled upon it, and held it in his own hand; but upon the residue of the wicked the floods came and swallowed them up” (Moses 7:43). Likewise, the Lord has said that he will smile upon or uphold the obedient in the last days, while at the same time smiting the wicked with his judgments. - [link to library.lds.org]

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Re: What was the purpose of the Biblical Flood? It appears there was none.
the flood was the keep the blood line of Adam and Eve pure!!

Nonsense!


nope basic truth

satan heard that the seed of woman would due him in in the garden

the fallen ones had sex with the daughters on man



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ice
 Quoting: Ice


"I shall establish a savage. Man will be his name. Verily, savage-man I shall create. He will be charged with the service of the Gods, that they might be at ease." Sumerian Creation Epic

“Let us make him who shall nourish and sustain us. What shall we do to be invoked, to be remembered in earth? We have tried with our first creatures, but we could not make them venerate us. So then, let us try to make obedient, respectful beings, who shall nourish and sustain us.” (The Maya Popul Vuh)


Sumerian and Maya truth, deal with it!
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Re: What was the purpose of the Biblical Flood? It appears there was none.
Could have been. That's one theory. Remember that in the garden, God told the serpent the seed of Eve would crush his seed. Who was this seed?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 849249

There is the Theory advanced by Arthur Custance, that the Seed, the Promised Seed of the Woman was in fact the Eggs of Eve, that somehow they were not corrupted by the eating of that forbidden fruit, even though both Eve's and Adam's somatic body cell's DNA and their other stem cell's DNA were infected and mutated by something contained in that fruit... A. Custance held that even Adam's stem cells that produced his sperm had been infected by this mutagentic toxin that permanently changed the human sperm and that mutation was then passed down the male side and inherited by both male and female from their fathers. However, Custance held that some how the human egg line was protected at least in some women, some female blood line, right down to the time of Mary.. Mary's Egg ... She conceived.. can't conceive without an egg... one of Mary's eggs, or perhaps all of them were the promised seed of the woman as promised to Eve. If a human male were to begate of Mary a child that child would then inherit all the defects of the human geneome.

However, if one of Mary's eggs went through a form of Mono-parthanogenesis yet producing a male child, it would have been only one of her eggs and no 'sperm donor' would have then in that case be required.

Today Genetics is looking for ways to get a mammal egg to do parthegenesis, and looking for ways to 'build' or transform one of the female X chromosomes into som form of Y chromosomes. Keeping up with the discoveries in Genetics can be very insightful.

We do not know how that one egg of Mary was caused to start its cell division.. the method remains unknown, but it would be a real no brainer to the Creator of the Heavens and the Earth to cause it to do so.
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Re: What was the purpose of the Biblical Flood? It appears there was none.
the flood was the keep the blood line of Adam and Eve pure!!

Nonsense!


nope basic truth

satan heard that the seed of woman would due him in in the garden

the fallen ones had sex with the daughters on man



Bible truth deal with it



ice
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Or YOUR perception of bible truth?

Cause I see it differently!
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Re: What was the purpose of the Biblical Flood? It appears there was none.
:hummbird: If you would like to know more about Noah's Flood from a biblical point of view. IT'S COMING!...

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 Quoting: 9teen.47™

1947, you really do mean , One Interpretational Theory of the Biblical Point of View. When I see you raise someone that has been dead for 3.5 days and starting to decay back to non-zombie like life, then perhaps I will more serious consider your perferred Interpretation Theory.

II Peter 1:20-21 has been severely mistranslated, btw.





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