Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

I've been considering an alternate view of war. I saw it said recently (couldn't tell you where or by whom, no idea of its credibility) that Aphrodite was once considered a goddess of both love (and beauty, and sexuality) and war. Not in the sense that Athena was a goddess of war, as she was more the goddess of war in relation to strategy (logic, reason, wisdom).

Considering that she was wife to Hephestus (a builder of weapons) and a lover of Aries (the God of War, destruction), her being of war as well seems fitting. But what does it imply that a single being would encompass both love (+sexuality and beauty) and war? A different concept regarding "war" than is currently held entirely

The symbols relate to you as you relate to them. At times, say, food for Thoht?

I know sekhmet to be the desert, the killer, the mirage, the dryness of the sand and the thirst that cannot be quenched.

A desert encompasses an oasis as might an ocean encompass an island.

I see symbols of hidden gifts, if you know how to find them. You don't even need a map.

Maps are good business though, sometimes you just gotta etch a sketch, if it will scratch an itch.

Scratching scratching on the sands, carving nothing in particulate.

There is nothing buried there, it is dug out.

Let me remove the specks from my eyes, I'm seeing fig trees. I mean, figments. Ah, she's a dream.

And if you want I'll remove your beam.

I've been considering an alternate view of war. I saw it said recently (couldn't tell you where or by whom, no idea of its credibility) that Aphrodite was once considered a goddess of both love (and beauty, and sexuality) and war. Not in the sense that Athena was a goddess of war, as she was more the goddess of war in relation to strategy (logic, reason, wisdom).

Considering that she was wife to Hephestus (a builder of weapons) and a lover of Aries (the God of War, destruction), her being of war as well seems fitting. But what does it imply that a single being would encompass both love (+sexuality and beauty) and war? A different concept regarding "war" than is currently held entirely



I respect the Ruski godmyth that is Svarog. He is the god of the forge, the fire and the dream.

In one "being" is united a harmony of the forge, the dream and the eternal battle.

The thing is, though, gods. goddesses of the mythos are not beings. They may have persona which gives aids to your thinking of them, however this doesn't provide them of any self subsistent beinghood.

You may sell your being to them, yeah. Like selling your soul to the devil. The exchange is the same, in essence.

But that's just a whore in an elaborate cosmetic. A very fancy golden turd, aka a decorated grave.

Lovely without while rotten within.

Well, anyway, that's my opinion and my viewpoint. The opinion being that it isn't worth it, and the viewpoint being that god archetypes are not beings but....something else. Which is the truth.

Also my opinion about costume parties is that they're for people who don't have an enjoyable social life.

By the way I wrote this response because I found your writing mildy pestersome so this is okay to ignore, I don't need a response. I'm just doing my selfish thing to clean away distractions.

May the other responses satisfy your wishes!

Nothing needs a response, but pestersome as I am (or is it, you are?) here one is! I wasn't expecting a response at all

I can't lie, I dabbled for a bit in the idea of interacting with the "gods" as such, beings in their own. But, you're right, that'd be missing the point entirely.

What you responded to initially was less my identifying gods and goddesses as beings and more my exploring how their representations have changed and what they could instead be (or, are, as each are valid).

For me, at least, beauty and war have historically been very separate. I couldn't have conceived of violence and authority to be beautiful or in any way an extension of what Aphrodite has represented in popular culture. Considering her relationship to representations of war, however, and knowing that every-thing is a re-presentation of every-thing else, a different view can be considered.

Of course Aphrodite (and, in Egypt, Sekhmet), Hephaestus, Svarog, and Aries are illustrations, personas to aid in understanding of the nature of oneself. The marriage of beauty and war in oneself is just something to consider, which is all I was doing c:

Even so, they are not beings, even if you say again they are. Less and more, yet still a little.

I'm certainly not pestersome. I have to my credit something the likes of you are never able to claim, and that is that I neither rely on nor quiver behind plausible deniability.

You can keep pestering but it won't bother me again.

For all your long message I only saw how you confirmed me to be correct.

In the smallest way, you did consider them beings and said so again.

You already have my answer, so don't contact me again.

I did not say they are, quite the opposite. At one point I may have considered them to be, but I said:





I was not calling you pestersome, but you finding me pestersome is finding an aspect of your own perspective perstersome. You find yourself pestersome, not I (double entendre, there). 'The likes of me' is interesting! You know precious little about me yet seem to know me better than I know myself. I wish I was as sure about me as you are:)

Also, what if I had found you pestersome? Does that somehow hold less truth than you finding me pestersome? How'd that be? Both would be subjective

I'm not sure what you mean when you imply that I rely on and quiver behind plausible deniability. Is it that I didn't have a source on Aphrodite being a goddess of both beauty and war? Well I still do not, but a conversation can happen regardless of sources, and I hold the concept interesting regardless of a source. It is I who could say that I don't need to rely on or quiver behind authority (could, but don't).



I most literally agreed, yes. Also it wasn't that long. If 10 sentences is long then I have some great news for my girlfriend



If that's how you read it, then that's how you read it:)



Post on a public forum never again and have my response in the same time! Cheers

Edit: fixed a link

Last Edited by Sabai_ on 01/14/2022 10:26 PM

Cheers buddy. I appreciate your post.

Here's to never posting on a public forum again!

May the moment be imminent.

And then there was one.

All ways was:)

S'wrong witchoo

Think again.

Read this as a clever answer that resolves concerns for you, one or both of your parents, a neighbor you like and a neighbor you don’t like, the nearest pet dog, and a planted bean plant.

That's one of many ways to read it, I suppose

Progress is progress, success is success. No complaints, no regrets. Some chase after, some chase away. Some never move on. Hmmmm and what about...?

ohakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkay and this is a step off the iceberg, of course it's not the final message here, it will soon be submerged and flattened into neutral.....surely some will show up to say anything to bring in more energy at cost. or might not, just to noncomply...or might anything simply to subvert expectations. subverting expectations is good storytelling (sarcasm alert). guys i finally got through. hardest year of my life. almsost died some times. glad im alive. much to anticipate and enjoy. still hard times but i got this. no worry for me, gonna be okay. past is past, just footprints in the mud. barefoot.all the way home. magic isnt real. dreams are nothing like what everyone is flapping gums about.challenge challenge, piss you off and trollbait. hahaha. freedom isnt free in this societee. just act normal in public. and

And...what? What happens next?

I am so sorry to hear that the past year has been a bad one for you. How did you almost die? Was it because of illness?Or an accident?

I'm glad to hear you are putting it in the past.

I, too, nearly died from illness last year, but, the dilemma continues; I'm not out of the woods yet. I am actually surprised I am still alive. I recalled with a jolt of personal revelation that Chaol told us, "There is no death." I think I believe this might be true.

QUALIA!

Qualia can only be experienced directly; it cannot be shared.

What can be "shared "if everything is a value in a single perspective?

Plus, when talking about symbolizing an experience to oneself, "sharing" is irrelevant in any event

Wonder what this guy's up to, what they think of 2022

So, then, "Qualia" is a useful descriptor in this case. You are very insightful in this regard, IMHO. I don't think I'll ever forget the word.

Yes c: The way I think about the concepts presented in this thread, Ec is a way to codify the qualia of an experience in order to ident-ify it (and thus represent it, making it experience-able) in all of its subjective glory. Qualia is essentially, imo, the very state of being (or the perception of it) that is the result of all the values in a specific experience.

Sitting on a red boat + at sea + during sunset = a specific qualia

Sitting on a red boat + at sea + during sunset + with a beer in your hand = a very different specific qualia

And each qualia is affected by the meanings/implications behind each value. The age of the boat, how the wood smells, the paint that's peeling, the sound of the waves against the hull, the location of the sea, the species of fish within it, the lands nearest to it, the position of the sun and each cloud in the sky, the brand of the beer, where it was fermented, the soil in which each shoot of grain grew. Or, in other words, qualia is the sum of everything as well as everything not in an experience. Or, it is the 5 in Chaol's Ecsys Prime equation.

Do I yet understand how to actually make the connection between qualia and Ec? No, no I do not BUT I think it's a step in the right direction.

I came across the word while looking into Neville Goddard's content, and he says "Feeling is the Secret." What is meant by that, if you ask me, is that feeling (accessing, tapping into, making real) the qualia of a desired experience. It's been my favorite word since I found it

Well now, this puts a curious spin on the concept of qualia, remembering that Chaol told us that everything is available to each perspective, but that we don't see those other things because they are irrelevant to the current perspective.

You, sir Sabai Adonais, have come away with an amazing understanding of EC.

Same stuff happen...things don't change...history is the backstory but it's the same old, old news, which used to be the new news and instead became the new olds, due to the emergency of new new news.

For at least yours sincerely, the suffering of wishing to live clean in the midst of a dirty polluted depraved degenerative social landscape...it's a full time work of cleaning up again, and cleaning up again, and cleaning up again, and cleaning up again, and cleaning up again, incessant.

There's no change to it..it's comforting in a way. This lack of order. Same thing repeatedly. Changelessness

Here look what I see: cha angel gel less esseness

Do you know why I wrote it?

Because after you've been abused repeatedly for so long and have tried all things conceivable by your own idea, and feel so utterly powerless to prevent it or end it, there is only left to watch and watch to see if there can be a new pattern of change. Something unprecedented, not only new.

For instance...

What if an original idea? (And reader wonders "what if an original idea what? The sentence is grammatically incomplete.)

Ah. What if a language most closely follows perception? How low would be the latency of thinking in reaction to perception? Or, remembering perception.

Does thinking quickly make a genius? Or is it thinking fast and slow? (Or quick and fast and slow and steady)

The unprecedented, though. It could be mentioned. Then one sided drainings of benefit continue.

Where's the synergy.

Closely notice how no one has an answer, only seem to have an answer, usually pedantically or even pedophilically inserting their own devices, to their own benefit, as usual.

Yeah, well, nice time reading. Good old. Stay safe, en-joy. Worrying never helps, does it? Something else helps. (Doing so)

Well damn.Oh well.

Personally, I take comfort in the fact that there is no such-thing as an "original idea," or originality in general. I recognize that that's not overly comforting for most. All is all ready here, just in forms we don't recognize as all. When writing a poem, the words all ready exist, we just explore the relationships between them in different ways. If different enough, then "new," though the relationships were there the whole time. Different framing.

If we use the same mode of exploration for our relationships, however, they're bound to look very similar to one an other. We explore the future as an extension of the past, then how differently can they really look to each other?

There is no answer, but the presupposition of an answer queues the search, and here we are.

How does one pedophilically insert their own devices? You know what, actually don't answer that

Mood

that shit was never goina happen