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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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Hey everybody I just want to say

Do whatcha want

I got no advice for you

You are sovereign

And as a legend once said

What's a king in a world of kings?

Average.
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That includes doing nothing if you want! If you want to not work and still have a life you enjoy I think that's fine

Actually I don't care, that's what it is dance
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I'm not going to turn up to that class mate, I've go better things to be getting on with.
 Quoting: LKing


I would love for you to be free enough to leave. I don't want to see you or read anything from you. You seem more and more pathetic the longer you stay here saying you're going to leave.
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Absolutely mate, keep being the big pretender, you're not 27 or 28 years old yet, because I can tell, soon, those around you will not treat you as a kid anymore and treat you as the man and force you to grow and if you do not grow you will be left by the way side, I've seen them come and I've watched them go, I am attempting to speak to the part of you which has to get up and grow up rather than watch you go down hill into insanity but apparently you're good, which is fine because I'm fantastic and you know this, I have everything including what you all desire more than anything, it isn't about brains or assets it's literally who you are and you baby boy have so much growing to do if you don't get to it quick the way side is where you're heading and it wont be fun being 30 and homeless with nothing but a drug to ramble on and no one around you supporting you.

Be a man and grow up.
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Hey he called me baby boy chuckle That's SpawnX's thing
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Because ultimately I'm not being a prick, I'm being a big brother advising you to get your shit together, we're all brothers in this, you know that is the way I perceive it.

You're not ready, hence your resistance and that's fine. When you appeared I understood that it would be years before you would be useful, I remember having the conversation with your mate on the matter.

The affinity towards you is because I see parts of my self in different versions of you, you have to quit the drugs, that's part of my edge, clean living baby about 4 years I'm razor sharp and my feelings and thoughts are my own, I'd advise that to get you going, you wont even get your own clear thoughts until 18 months after which many have attempted and failed along the way side, what's it going to be? Are you going to ramble forever or are you going to make something of the perception you control? If it's the latter let me know, you know exactly where to find me, if it's the first I'd say the builder will be around shortly so you're around like minded individuals, you'll get along great guys!
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I would love for you to be free enough to leave. I don't want to see you or read anything from you. You seem more and more pathetic the longer you stay here saying you're going to leave.
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Absolutely mate, keep being the big pretender, you're not 27 or 28 years old yet, because I can tell, soon, those around you will not treat you as a kid anymore and treat you as the man and force you to grow and if you do not grow you will be left by the way side, I've seen them come and I've watched them go, I am attempting to speak to the part of you which has to get up and grow up rather than watch you go down hill into insanity but apparently you're good, which is fine because I'm fantastic and you know this, I have everything including what you all desire more than anything, it isn't about brains or assets it's literally who you are and you baby boy have so much growing to do if you don't get to it quick the way side is where you're heading and it wont be fun being 30 and homeless with nothing but a drug to ramble on and no one around you supporting you.

Be a man and grow up.
 Quoting: LKing


Hey he called me baby boy chuckle That's SpawnX's thing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76453990


Because ultimately I'm not being a prick, I'm being a big brother advising you to get your shit together, we're all brothers in this, you know that is the way I perceive it.

You're not ready, hence your resistance and that's fine. When you appeared I understood that it would be years before you would be useful, I remember having the conversation with your mate on the matter.

The affinity towards you is because I see parts of my self in different versions of you, you have to quit the drugs, that's part of my edge, clean living baby about 4 years I'm razor sharp and my feelings and thoughts are my own, I'd advise that to get you going, you wont even get your own clear thoughts until 18 months after which many have attempted and failed along the way side, what's it going to be? Are you going to ramble forever or are you going to make something of the perception you control? If it's the latter let me know, you know exactly where to find me, if it's the first I'd say the builder will be around shortly so you're around like minded individuals, you'll get along great guys!
 Quoting: LKing


1. You are not my big brother
2. I don't do drugs (unless you count oxygen)
3. I haven't rambled in a long time.

And once again

I don't care what you want to say to me Lee. You seem really gay and only care about one thing, Money, something I just don't care about.

I've no use for you, Lee.

If the Builder arrives, that's ok. I already said my great compliment. The other is more to see if my informant is accurate in his predictions. Even that's not important it's just a bit of fun to have a challenge and see what happens.
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As for seeing yourself in me that's common. All my life I have people say to me

- I feel like I've known you a long time though we just met
- you look just like a (guy I want to college with, worked with, my cousins brothers uncle, an old friend, etc)

And of course their narcissism falls in love with my mirror neurons and thus I wrote

Lotta people think they know me when they don't know themselves that well. I see it every day. All my life, even. You'd think it gets really old after a while, and it does.
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Absolutely mate, keep being the big pretender, you're not 27 or 28 years old yet, because I can tell, soon, those around you will not treat you as a kid anymore and treat you as the man and force you to grow and if you do not grow you will be left by the way side, I've seen them come and I've watched them go, I am attempting to speak to the part of you which has to get up and grow up rather than watch you go down hill into insanity but apparently you're good, which is fine because I'm fantastic and you know this, I have everything including what you all desire more than anything, it isn't about brains or assets it's literally who you are and you baby boy have so much growing to do if you don't get to it quick the way side is where you're heading and it wont be fun being 30 and homeless with nothing but a drug to ramble on and no one around you supporting you.

Be a man and grow up.
 Quoting: LKing


Hey he called me baby boy chuckle That's SpawnX's thing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76453990


Because ultimately I'm not being a prick, I'm being a big brother advising you to get your shit together, we're all brothers in this, you know that is the way I perceive it.

You're not ready, hence your resistance and that's fine. When you appeared I understood that it would be years before you would be useful, I remember having the conversation with your mate on the matter.

The affinity towards you is because I see parts of my self in different versions of you, you have to quit the drugs, that's part of my edge, clean living baby about 4 years I'm razor sharp and my feelings and thoughts are my own, I'd advise that to get you going, you wont even get your own clear thoughts until 18 months after which many have attempted and failed along the way side, what's it going to be? Are you going to ramble forever or are you going to make something of the perception you control? If it's the latter let me know, you know exactly where to find me, if it's the first I'd say the builder will be around shortly so you're around like minded individuals, you'll get along great guys!
 Quoting: LKing


1. You are not my big brother
2. I don't do drugs (unless you count oxygen)
3. I haven't rambled in a long time.

And once again

I don't care what you want to say to me Lee. You seem really gay and only care about one thing, Money, something I just don't care about.

I've no use for you, Lee.

If the Builder arrives, that's ok. I already said my great compliment. The other is more to see if my informant is accurate in his predictions. Even that's not important it's just a bit of fun to have a challenge and see what happens.
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I am being a big brother, I never said I was your big brother. If you're in the sisterhood that's fine.

You're not kidding anyone here mate.

You know we remember yesterday right?

Why not have fun celebrating your victories? Rather than waiting to hear what someone else has to say about something? What you might not even enjoy? Then you've not wasted your time??

Great, and because you're addressing me in a less personal nature I appreciate the reduction in volume.

Have fun with what ever it is you've got to do man, life is to be enjoyed and it is on you to be you, if you're being true to your self what does my word mean anyway?

Have fun kiddo!
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Hey he called me baby boy chuckle That's SpawnX's thing
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Because ultimately I'm not being a prick, I'm being a big brother advising you to get your shit together, we're all brothers in this, you know that is the way I perceive it.

You're not ready, hence your resistance and that's fine. When you appeared I understood that it would be years before you would be useful, I remember having the conversation with your mate on the matter.

The affinity towards you is because I see parts of my self in different versions of you, you have to quit the drugs, that's part of my edge, clean living baby about 4 years I'm razor sharp and my feelings and thoughts are my own, I'd advise that to get you going, you wont even get your own clear thoughts until 18 months after which many have attempted and failed along the way side, what's it going to be? Are you going to ramble forever or are you going to make something of the perception you control? If it's the latter let me know, you know exactly where to find me, if it's the first I'd say the builder will be around shortly so you're around like minded individuals, you'll get along great guys!
 Quoting: LKing


1. You are not my big brother
2. I don't do drugs (unless you count oxygen)
3. I haven't rambled in a long time.

And once again

I don't care what you want to say to me Lee. You seem really gay and only care about one thing, Money, something I just don't care about.

I've no use for you, Lee.

If the Builder arrives, that's ok. I already said my great compliment. The other is more to see if my informant is accurate in his predictions. Even that's not important it's just a bit of fun to have a challenge and see what happens.
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I am being a big brother, I never said I was your big brother. If you're in the sisterhood that's fine.

You're not kidding anyone here mate.

You know we remember yesterday right?

Why not have fun celebrating your victories? Rather than waiting to hear what someone else has to say about something? What you might not even enjoy? Then you've not wasted your time??

Great, and because you're addressing me in a less personal nature I appreciate the reduction in volume.

Have fun with what ever it is you've got to do man, life is to be enjoyed and it is on you to be you, if you're being true to your self what does my word mean anyway?

Have fun kiddo!
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You aren't being a big brother you are being a Mommy.

And I already told you why I didn't celebrate my victory. It's because I took no enjoyment from humiliating you. It's not something I wanted to do. It's something you asked for.

All this time it wasn't personal and the reduction in volume is solely in your perception. I've been just about whispering this whole time.

You're never going to be my mommy, LeQueen rolleyes

It looks like you are finally getting it. Well, adios, then. Lee.
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I'll be around for the wave to wash on and when my turn to be noticed is gone, I'll be gone. My voice will remain, resounding eternal. Who I was unforgotten. What I am unremembered. The choice is ours. The path is mine. The step is slow, and steady. Step 1.
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Now I read it.

Okay so some points to correct

[big snippie]

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I think we have different definitions of "antagonism." I don't "antagonize" to hurt but to play on your perceptions, or my perceptions of your perceptions. Quite different from calling someone a "bitch," "parasite," 'non-person,' "creature." We are a hypocrite
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Well that was a rollercoaster hmm

Nice to see our resident hothead still alive and kicking.

SabAd bringing that familiar Chaol-esque energy and phrasing to the thread.

The rest of us watching over Ecsys, here to observe or guide as needed.
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Oh you make me blush. Can say I missed you all, though many of us have never officially met, in all those talkings.

Thoughts on NooNeuronics?
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Alright FIIIINE

Though they started it, I shall concede the argument - but I'm not going back on what I said.

[link to neuronics.one (secure)]

This site is really cool. It's full of depth and practical guidance. I couldn't have imagined it better myself.

dasbier
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Well looks like it's time to learn how do use the metaverse technologia . I am been left with no choice . Forced into it by the builder
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False promises, all up to you to choose to indulge in. No one forces you to do anything. Isn't that wonderful:)
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What does any of it matter? It was only conflict because of a mistake on my part. A very painful mistake and a foolish one. It was simply the expectation that there are any individuals here. I was an idiot. You can say you've won. I'm busy fighting for my life for the rest of my life now while all of metaphysics attacks me. Enemy to the cult of saran and enemy to the neuronics and there's no room for neutral anymore

This is a three piece maximum standoff
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Does "sir duckington" mean anything to you stephan?
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Are you a girl?
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Gender is a social construct, useful at times, but inherently limiting. But yes you'd perceive me as a girl :)
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Which part of structuring them isn't making sense?

Which part of reading them isn't making sense?

Start with learning 3, then learn 4, then learn 5 etc.

When you know 10 and you see 10 written down you should be able to "read" what theoretically those 10 at least sound like in your head.

English helps, agreed.


Think of it like a programming language, if you're level 0 you don't even realize what a string is, a floating point, a variable, a function, nothing.

When you make your first multiplication calculator, you learn the basics, you define you variables
Dim firstnumber as integer
dim secondnumber as integer
dim answer as integer

you write the code
[
answer = firstnumber * secondnumber
]
Drop it on a button or something.

You create a form having 3 text boxes and your button
firstnumber = textbox1.text
secondnumber = textbox2.text
answer = textbox3.text

When the form pops up, you put a number in textbox1 and a number in textbox2 and click button the code runs, success.

Ok so you've learned the basics of a programming language.

That's level 0.1, at level 2 you understand if statements,

So if before you click the code you can check things

If firstnumber = "" then
Print "Textbox1 appears to be empty, please input a number."
End If

Right?

That's level 2, when you get to level 3, maybe you could connect to a database.

When you're at level 8 you've got algorithms scanning the markets looking to find patterns.

You can't even comprehend level 9 from level 0.1.
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The NooNeuronics site helped a lot in terms of how to "structure" the symbols in that in a string one must define the inverse of the original "word." I had an inkling this might be the case with the og ec but never could make it useful. The new system makes a lot more sense to me. I've tried to make a few sets and so far no luck in "changing" anything, but I'll keep trying

I don't much understand programming, but I'm learning
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That all corrected, Lking please don't be a Loser King and actually make sure you're up to date on the new site, and understand that Saba Adonis (forgot the spell here) is mainly interested in what The Builder has to say.

[Snippie]

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I am very interested in what the builder has to say, but you'll find I am also interested in conversation with others who'd like to be constructive:)
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PHEW can we be constructive now?

How would one define a color, or lack of color in the case of grey, white, and black, in noo (or old) neuronics?

Say I want a *green* apple. Is that a new word in a set, a new set, or an entirely new word for apple?

Having fun here at level 1
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Now I read it.

Okay so some points to correct

[big snippie]

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I think we have different definitions of "antagonism." I don't "antagonize" to hurt but to play on your perceptions, or my perceptions of your perceptions. Quite different from calling someone a "bitch," "parasite," 'non-person,' "creature." We are a hypocrite
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I don't antagonize for entertainment. You didn't read details, or didn't understand them, so it's not a surprise. You don't owe me that.
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I don't antagonize for entertainment. You didn't read details, or didn't understand them, so it's not a surprise. You don't owe me that.
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Everything you do is for entertainment, you just don't realize it as you're very involved in the minutiae.

Still not looking to be constructive i take it
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I don't antagonize for entertainment. You didn't read details, or didn't understand them, so it's not a surprise. You don't owe me that.
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Everything you do is for entertainment, you just don't realize it as you're very involved in the minutiae.

Still not looking to be constructive i take it
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You will always make up a story about me without regard to my volition.
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You will always make up a story about me without regard to my volition.
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And you me. That's quite literally how most of us go about living and you're certainly not proving to be an exception.

Still not constructive. Seems you're stuck in the past, friend. And that's coming from someone whose whole goal with this shenanigans is to get back to the past. Do you want to perseverate on others' interpretations and the mistake(s) you made or do you want to do something
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You will always make up a story about me without regard to my volition.
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And you me. That's quite literally how most of us go about living and you're certainly not proving to be an exception.

Still not constructive. Seems you're stuck in the past, friend. And that's coming from someone whose whole goal with this shenanigans is to get back to the past. Do you want to perseverate on others' interpretations and the mistake(s) you made or do you want to do something
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Why do you call me friend, and write like you mean to reconcile, while it is obvious you don't read what I write, or understand it, nor seek to understand me, but only set requirements for me to be constructive, while I am a stranger?

After all, if you've let go of the past why did you start this conversation today.
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Why do you call me friend, and write like you mean to reconcile, while it is obvious you don't read what I write, or understand it, nor seek to understand me, but only set requirements for me to be constructive, while I am a stranger?

After all, if you've let go of the past why did you start this conversation today.
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I understand what I need to and I see nothing to reconcile on my end. You call mee so many names and deny my very humanness but that doesn't matter.

I never said I let go of the past. But I am not stuck in it, I am willing to be open to new things. New things in this conversation, such as constructiveness.

But, there must be mutual interest for that. Lmk when you want to do something about something ig. Til then, god b w ye
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Goodbye, human.
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How would one define a color, or lack of color in the case of grey, white, and black, in noo (or old) neuronics?

Say I want a *green* apple. Is that a new word in a set, a new set, or an entirely new word for apple?

Having fun here at level 1
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais


Color is seemingly on the metaphysical side of the chart, but how to determine chaos/order?

I remember back in the day a conversation about colors and it was mentioned that red was chaotic (I believe OP said they'd rather be eaten by a red dragon than a green one), but what determines the chaotic-ness of a color?

The red end of the spectrum has the longest wavelengths and the violet has the most energy. Since "potential" (energy) is on the chaos side, I would think that the violet end would be more chaotic. Or is it that green, being in the middle of the spectrum, is the most "ordered" and chaos increases bidirectionally toward both red and violet? That would give us a torus shape (at least it does when I'm imagining it with red and violet connecting)

But that makes it relative (I mean, of course, this all is), how does one determine if a single color "wants to expand"? It's easy looking at opposites to determine which is an expression of chaos and which is an expression of order, but how does one parse things on spectrums?

Thinking about this with musical notes, as well. Is D# chaos or order? It's easy to tell if an interval is chaotic or orderly bc that's just down to ratios, but a single note?
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The set I made for "working car hood release latch" didn't "work" until after the mechanic got here :,) easiest job he's ever had
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How would one define a color, or lack of color in the case of grey, white, and black, in noo (or old) neuronics?

Say I want a *green* apple. Is that a new word in a set, a new set, or an entirely new word for apple?

Having fun here at level 1
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Alsooooo, how does interactability/relatability fit into the equation? Ik they're chaos/order respectively and I figured with the old high/neutral/low system "high" was akin to interactability and "low" was akin to relatability (but I keep flip-flopping on that I'm not really sure).

Taking white and black as an example, we perceive white when an object reflects all colors and black absorbs all colors. In relation to "colors," does this mean that white is relatable (ordered) and black interactive (chaotic)?

White would then have Jah' as the first syllable?

Does white seek to expand, though? I would say probably so since it's reflective, but I'm not sure.

Also, continued interaction would be metaphysical, but does it result in more chaos or more order? Again leaning towards chaos bc it's reflective, but again not sure

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All colors are chaos to thee colorblind :)

Def chaos as colors seem to expand in my coloring book.
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I think you're right :)

I realized after writing the white bit about reflectiveness that all colors reflect onto the things around them. Color chaos!
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BUT how do you differentiate in neuroicons a specific color? They're all chaotic but within their own context some are more chaotic than others

Or, do you even have to? When making a set or string one has an idea of what they're going for, does that translate into the final perception without it having to be "explicit"?

Like I could use the same set for a green apple as I used for a red apple in the past, but bc I know I want green this time I don't have to change it?
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
Welll, I learned a valuable lesson. Use language to differentiate neuroicons. Last time I tried differentiating colors of a neuroicons, Chaos won, lie to win I thought, how the heck did I color 'tree of life' all brown? Surely the leaves were green 5 seconds ago!! Maybe I'm just good at time traveling :') Or perhaps dimension exploring.

Red delicious
Granny smith

No colors needed!

Top light means stop bottom light is GOO! Middle light is Vroom.





GLP