A Possible Explanation For The Pirate Situation | |
Nikki_LaVey
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Boomer
(OP) User ID: 572199 United States 04/10/2009 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dirty Bombs are pretty much useless Quoting: Nikki_LaVeySays you and nobody else. When living tissue is exposed to radiological isotopes the cellular structure rapidly begins to break down, and there's no "cure." When you hear about what a nuclear war would be like, and people say that the people who died in the blasts would be the lucky ones, it's this that they're talking about. Radiation sickness. Your hair and teeth begin falling out, your skin pales. Your organs begin to liquefy, and you die a death similar in experience to that of cancer but much more severe in the anguish. If radiological material is released in a densely populated area, or say, perhaps into a water supply - you're gonna have a lot of terminally ill patients on your hands. That's especially true if a large amount of material was dispersed. Your hear the government speak of the threat posed by a dirt bomb made from the small amount of radiological material in hospital waste - imagine how widespread the effects could be with the material which could be acquired from a nuclear waste dump. ...How many people would you say are in downtown LA right now and how many customers does your local water company have? Compare that to the mere 3,000 deaths on 9/11. Last Edited by Fawkes on 04/10/2009 05:32 PM |
Nikki_LaVey
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 654043 United States 04/10/2009 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I already suggested this yesterday in a thread Thread: ALERT!! The Somali Pirate Situation IS MORE Than It Appears |
Boomer
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Boomer
(OP) User ID: 572199 United States 04/10/2009 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Nikki_LaVey Hmm, interesting. Looking over some DOD reports and they seem to agree, noting that a large amount of radiological material would be needed to make it a WMD, as well as an expert in creating sophisticated weapons in order to ensure it disburses its payload over a large distance. So possible but unlikely. I should've considered that though. It is rather obvious when you think about it isn't it. |
Boomer
(OP) User ID: 572199 United States 04/10/2009 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know on second thought even if the pirates had a huge amount of heavily radioactive material and an effective delivery method - even if the Pirates could stand to severely damage or kill thousands - why would the governments care? It would be unprecedented for them to be so concerned for the wellbeing of their people. So I suppose if there is a conspiracy in this it would have to be something else entirely. |
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Boomer
(OP) User ID: 572199 United States 04/10/2009 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It all comes down to people enforcing there will upon others. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 623708Freedom in any way is an illusion. F.E. Your statement has obvious merit but isn't entirely true. If we agree that Freedom is the ability to choose and to act without any form of restriction or hindrance, then it's entirely possible. But of course the chief factor in why such an anarchist utopia will never exist in any society is because human nature compels every person to, as you put it, "enforce their will upon others." That means the only way to have absolute freedom (aside from, for instance, the "freedom" to rape or go on killing sprees, etc) in a society is to radically reprogram at very least the majority of its members. Quite an ambitious task that would be and needless to say it's very unlikely any entity will ever even try to accomplish that, much less succeed in the endeavor. But even then, the unreprogrammed minority would most likely at some point rise up and fight for the ability to dominate others, at which point you'd require something like a benevolent monarchy to keep them from oppressing others, policing them, which would eventually lead back to where we are today. Sort've like how it's impossible to avoid fascism if your form of government has a congress (the role of the congress is to make laws, perpetually, so). But I guess I just arguing semantics here, sort've. What does FE stand for, by the way? |
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Lemoning
User ID: 654265 United States 04/10/2009 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dirty Bombs are pretty much useless Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyIn terms of casualties, pretty much (although with enough radioactive material near a water supply,you never know), but the fear is an issue. A dirty bomb attack would fuck people's heads up. |
Boomer
(OP) User ID: 572199 United States 04/10/2009 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That society of course failed very quickly, as the European monarchs realized how threatening their revolution was, at which time the German and French militaries assaulted Paris together followed by mass executions and reestablishing French governance. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 649722 United States 04/10/2009 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps the US Navy is waiting for more pirate vessels and crew to arrive so they can take alot of them out in one blow. If the container ship which is supposedly a new staging area for pirates is headed over to the area where the 28' long lifeboat currently is positioned it would be much more worthwhile to await its arrival and stomp on them hard. |
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Boomer
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Lemoning
User ID: 654845 United Kingdom 04/11/2009 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bump [link to news.bbc.co.uk] >>>>Pirates caution against US rescue Somali pirates holding US Captain Richard Phillips hostage have warned that the use of force to rescue him could result in "disaster". The pirates said they hoped to transfer him to a bigger vessel, as US and other naval ships made their way to the area. Capt Phillips is being held by a gang of four pirates on a lifeboat hundreds of kilometres off the Somali coast. He tried to escape on Friday by jumping overboard and swimming to a nearby US ship, but was recaptured. <<<<< |
Boomer
(OP) User ID: 572199 United States 04/11/2009 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The pirates said they hoped to transfer him to a bigger vessel... Quoting: LemoningWell that would be the blunder of the century. Right now they have him held up in the middle of the water, on a small craft, surrounded by men with assault rifles. Marines couldn't board that boat without being shot at all the way in, and the hostage most likely being killed. The larger the boat the more manpower and firepower needed to keep it secure and the higher the probability of the hostage surviving a rescue attempt. Maybe this is the reason the USN is allowing the other pirate vessels to approach the hostage ship. Gambling that the pirates are stupid enough to load the hostage onto a larger boat. |