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ALERT!! The Somali Pirate Situation IS MORE Than It Appears

 
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ALERT!! The Somali Pirate Situation IS MORE Than It Appears
Ok. Let's first start off back in February 12, 2009.

These so called pirates were holding a Kenyan bound ship filled with weapons.

[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

"A ship packed with battle tanks and ammunition, freed after being held by Somali pirates since September, has reached the Kenyan port of Mombasa."

Now let us all think...who do we know was born in Kenya?

This is just the topping on the cake. The thing about these weapons is that the manifest read that the destination would be Southern Sudan. So what is the big deal?

Well Christian controlled Sudan had been involved in a major civil war with the Muslim controlled North until 2005 when a peace treaty was signed.. democratic elections are planned for 2011. The fact that the manifest showed weapons being smuggled through Kenya to South Sudan shows that the war may be far from over.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The thing about these pirates is that they are not just after the loot...they are after the weapons too. Now in US media today we are seeing connections between terrorist groups and the pirates as the pirates are a front for something much grander.

[link to news.yahoo.com]

One must ask themselves... what was on that cargo ship and why would so many military vessels be heading that way?

Perhaps something very important ... like a WMD was taken off that ship along with the captain.

Any thoughts?
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*Christian controlled Southern Sudan
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Article from February 12th

The MV Faina, released for a ransom of $3.2m (£2.2m), was met by Kenyan and Ukrainian government officials.

Controversy still surrounds the freight on the Ukrainian-registered vessel.

Kenya insists the weaponry is for the Kenyan army, but the ship's documents seem to suggest the arms belong to the government of South Sudan.

A parliamentary committee is investigating the issue.

The BBC's Karen Allen in Mombasa says if the allegations are true, it would be a huge embarrassment for the Kenyan government, which helped broker a peace deal between the north and south of Sudan four years ago.


MV FAINA
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Pirates seized the MV Faina on 25 September 2008
Cargo consisted of 33 T-72 tanks, rocket launchers and small arms
Kenya claims the cargo; reports said it was for South Sudan

High stakes on Somali high seas
Pirates reveal Sudan's arms race

The MV Faina was brought into port by two tugs, along with a military escort.

Its arrival has become a huge public spectacle, with the media invited to witness the event.

This is in sharp contrast to the secrecy that has surrounded the ship and its cargo since it was hijacked off the coast of Somalia on 25 September 2008.

The Kenyan authorities insist that the cargo of 33 Soviet-era T-72 combat tanks and thousands of rounds of ammunition are destined for the Kenyan military.

But the ship's manifest - checked by international security experts - suggests the weaponry is destined for South Sudan.

Kenya's military spokesman Bogita Ongeri told AFP news agency on Wednesday: "Those who had doubts about the contents and its destination should be there to witness.

"We will all be there to receive the Faina and our military cargo which will be offloaded and taken in for safety in our respective military camps."

Embassy officials have turned up to meet the mainly Ukrainian crew of 20.

The captain of the ship died two days after it was seized by the pirates but the cause of his death is not yet clear and his body still needs to be repatriated.

Ukrainian television channel ICTV reported on Wednesday that special services sources have suggested the captain may have been poisoned to conceal the cargo's destination.
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To add to your thoughts:

What happened to the ship/cargo/pirates of the incident in which the cargo was opened ......... and pirates/crew started dying?

That one seemed to vanish from everywhere.
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Tell us more.

Please elaborate.

I don't get it.
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No, the pirates and captain were in a small dingy.
It could not carry anything heavy.
These pirates are Muslims, they are actually not allowed to steal.
But they don't see it as stealing, kidnapping and ransom is allowed by there rules of war.
The ship with the tanks etc was freed after the ransom was paid.
These guys have already hundreds of millions of dollars they can buy all the weapons they want.
They do not steal weapons they do not even want the ships and its contents.
Its just ransom, which they see as the Jizyah, a tax for not being Muslim.
Why do you speak shit on the internet?
And what does it do for you personally?
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No, the pirates and captain were in a small dingy.
It could not carry anything heavy.
These pirates are Muslims, they are actually not allowed to steal.
But they don't see it as stealing, kidnapping and ransom is allowed by there rules of war.
The ship with the tanks etc was freed after the ransom was paid.
These guys have already hundreds of millions of dollars they can buy all the weapons they want.
They do not steal weapons they do not even want the ships and its contents.
Its just ransom, which they see as the Jizyah, a tax for not being Muslim.
 Quoting: User ID 580336

"Joseph Murphy said most of the lifeboats are about 28 feet long and carry water and food for 34 people for 10 days. The lifeboats are covered and the elder Murphy suspects the pirates have closed the ports to avoid sniper fire."

Sounds like a pretty big boat to me...whos to say what happened in the meantime of crew being locked in rooms as he was taken?

And PS if it was a WMD... wouldnt that mean they arent stealing if its for the "paradise"
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To add to your thoughts:

What happened to the ship/cargo/pirates of the incident in which the cargo was opened ......... and pirates/crew started dying?

That one seemed to vanish from everywhere.
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thanks for the info...do you have a link?
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04/10/2009 01:31 AM
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I still don't get it.

Are people dying from the radiation of the WMD's they have on board?

Please help more. Simple terms.
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I still don't get it.

Are people dying from the radiation of the WMD's they have on board?

Please help more. Simple terms.
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watch Repo Man
"If there is a new fascism, it won't come from skinheads and punks; it will come from people who eat granola and think they know how the world should be." - Brian Eno
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And what does it have to do with Obama? I mean, what is the significance of the whole Kenyan connection thing?
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Ignore the OP, he's full of it.
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And what does it have to do with Obama? I mean, what is the significance of the whole Kenyan connection thing?
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Kenya helps deliver weapons to south Sudan...an emerging democratic republic who has just gotten out of a long civil war in 2005.

So what was the US delivering? What may have been compromised by the muslim pirates?
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Ignore the OP, he's full of it.
 Quoting: Guns n' God


I will admit...this is pure speculation...but why such a large US naval presence ALONG with FBI to deal with the pirates? I thought the US doesn't negotiate with terrorists.
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Oh, I totally think there's WAY more to this then they're letting on - I mean, all the major navies can't get this under control?

So, okay, Kenya is helping Sudan get WMD's so that they can...threaten the world? Sell them for $$? Be a major power? What.
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Oh, I totally think there's WAY more to this then they're letting on - I mean, all the major navies can't get this under control?

So, okay, Kenya is helping Sudan get WMD's so that they can...threaten the world? Sell them for $$? Be a major power? What.
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so that they can prevent the peace treaty for a democratic republic of south sudan from being broken....and if it is, they will be armed in order to form a democratic republic for all of sudan by force.
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"Joseph Murphy said most of the lifeboats are about 28 feet long and carry water and food for 34 people for 10 days. The lifeboats are covered and the elder Murphy suspects the pirates have closed the ports to avoid sniper fire."

Sounds like a pretty big boat to me...whos to say what happened in the meantime of crew being locked in rooms as he was taken?

And PS if it was a WMD... wouldnt that mean they arent stealing if its for the "paradise"
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Enough to carry a nuke in?
I don't think so.
And no they wont steal nukes either.
They will pay for them.
They are not allowed to steal, seriously.
They are not even allowed to earn bank interest on there ransom money.
Why do you speak shit on the internet?
And what does it do for you personally?
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"Joseph Murphy said most of the lifeboats are about 28 feet long and carry water and food for 34 people for 10 days. The lifeboats are covered and the elder Murphy suspects the pirates have closed the ports to avoid sniper fire."

Sounds like a pretty big boat to me...whos to say what happened in the meantime of crew being locked in rooms as he was taken?

And PS if it was a WMD... wouldnt that mean they arent stealing if its for the "paradise"

Enough to carry a nuke in?
I don't think so.
And no they wont steal nukes either.
They will pay for them.
They are not allowed to steal, seriously.
They are not even allowed to earn bank interest on there ransom money.
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I didnt say a nuke...and last time I checked nukes can fit in suit cases.

And in regards to your muslims can't steal? hahaha. If it is in the name of Allah ... everything is god willing lmao
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Yep, da pirates are going to start ww3

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04/10/2009 02:33 PM
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We have been building AfricaCom for the past number of years and we have been 'on the gound' in many ways for sometime. War is ongoing and no forseable time for it to be over. China and the US are vying for interests over there and the Sudan and Somalia play large roles in this but not limited to them. So now we have at the very minimal a pretext for naval presence therein. Just my opinion but I believe that poster's observatrions are tracking.
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Re: ALERT!! The Somali Pirate Situation IS MORE Than It Appears
Some background reading regarding the dirty bomb and the Somalian pirates lastyear:


[link to shiratdevorah.blogspot.com]
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We have been building AfricaCom for the past number of years and we have been 'on the gound' in many ways for sometime. War is ongoing and no forseable time for it to be over. China and the US are vying for interests over there and the Sudan and Somalia play large roles in this but not limited to them. So now we have at the very minimal a pretext for naval presence therein. Just my opinion but I believe that poster's observatrions are tracking.
 Quoting: Mickeyblue 330969


AfricaCom sounds a little bit like der 'Afrika Korps'.
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Some background reading regarding the dirty bomb and the Somalian pirates lastyear:


[link to shiratdevorah.blogspot.com]
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thank you.





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