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Why I gave up christmas

 
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Why I gave up christmas
Research the Faith you follow.

It’s a pagan celebration.

It’s not in scripture except for the warnings not to participate in pagan practices.

Our saviour didn’t celebrate it, He was here till He was 33 years old. He was born around September (fall) when His parents went from Bethlehem to Egypt.

(This will be my 3rd year of not participating. I’m Natsarim, we follow scripture, not any organized religion. We keep the Sabbath and the Feasts of YHWH, which we are instructed to do in scripture. I’m still learning all of this 😊
Sharing this now so friends know why I don’t say merry christmas back in advance.)



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In early fall
We can estimate when Jesus was born by counting backward from his death on Passover, Nisan 14 in the spring of the year 33 C.E. (John 19:14-16) Yahusha (Jesus) was about 30 years old when he began his three-and-a-half-year ministry, so he was born in the early fall of 2 B.C. —Luke 3:23.
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Re: Why I gave up christmas
I don't spend a dime on christmas. The most I might do is bake some cookies, I don't give any damn presents at all.
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Re: Why I gave up christmas
Great one OP. Observe Hanukkah aka The Feast of Dedication as did Yeshua in the Book of John.

Without the Maccabean victory over Antiochus Epiphanies the seedline to Messiah could have been destroyed. Antiochus was a preview of the Antichrist and desecrated the temple by sacrificing a pig in it.

The Feast of Dedication/Hanukkah is a celebration of that glorious victory.
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I’m Natsarim, we follow scripture, not any organized religion. We keep the Sabbath and the Feasts of YHWH, which we are instructed to do in scripture.
 Quoting: -Kate-



I'm Southern Baptist.

We celebrate the Grace of God through The Gospel of Jesus Christ.

We believe that one day is no holier than another, just as The Apostle Paul wrote.

We believe the Sabbath IS Jesus Christ, not a day of the week.

We believe the Feasts are fulfilled in Christ the Messiah.

We don't believe that we have to follow laws given to non-gentiles, for we are gentiles.
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Re: Why I gave up christmas
I’m Natsarim, we follow scripture, not any organized religion. We keep the Sabbath and the Feasts of YHWH, which we are instructed to do in scripture.
 Quoting: -Kate-



I'm Southern Baptist.

We celebrate the Grace of God through The Gospel of Jesus Christ.

We believe that one day is no holier than another, just as The Apostle Paul wrote.

We believe the Sabbath IS Jesus Christ, not a day of the week.

We believe the Feasts are fulfilled in Christ the Messiah.

We don't believe that we have to follow laws given to non-gentiles, for we are gentiles.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432


I know, I used to be apart of that. They twisted Paul’s words and formed a doctrine as Peter said they would.

2 Peter 3:16
King James Version
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
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Re: Why I gave up christmas
Hebrew roots bullchit? His name is Jesus to us in the Western world we were given a new place to live and a new living language!
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Hebrew roots bullchit? His name is Jesus to us in the Western world we were given a new place to live and a new living language!
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No Natsarim is not a part of the Hebrew roots movement. We are the entire Bible and removed books studiers and followers.
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Re: Why I gave up christmas
I’m Natsarim, we follow scripture, not any organized religion. We keep the Sabbath and the Feasts of YHWH, which we are instructed to do in scripture.
 Quoting: -Kate-



I'm Southern Baptist.

We celebrate the Grace of God through The Gospel of Jesus Christ.

We believe that one day is no holier than another, just as The Apostle Paul wrote.

We believe the Sabbath IS Jesus Christ, not a day of the week.

We believe the Feasts are fulfilled in Christ the Messiah.

We don't believe that we have to follow laws given to non-gentiles, for we are gentiles.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432


I know, I used to be apart of that. They twisted Paul’s words and formed a doctrine as Peter said they would.

2 Peter 3:16
King James Version
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
 Quoting: -Kate-



Unfortunately, that verse must apply to others, for we are both learned AND stable.

Do you go up to Jerusalem to celebrate the Feast Days?
If not, then you are not keeping the Feasts.

Do you sacrifice a bull or goat at the Temple? No?
Then you are not fulfilling the Law.

Paul was taught the mystery of the Gospel of the Grace of God. That is what we are to believe in this Age of Grace.
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More muh chosen in the middle east. You think the jay had the mission to spread the word of God, White men did that. jay imposters are late to the party and a counterfeit!
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Re: Why I gave up christmas
All you people do is argue.

How about we forget about the past and just focus on the present?


Ever though about that?
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All you people do is argue.

How about we forget about the past and just focus on the present?


Ever though about that?
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thought*
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Re: Why I gave up christmas
I’m Natsarim, we follow scripture, not any organized religion. We keep the Sabbath and the Feasts of YHWH, which we are instructed to do in scripture.
 Quoting: -Kate-



I'm Southern Baptist.

We celebrate the Grace of God through The Gospel of Jesus Christ.

We believe that one day is no holier than another, just as The Apostle Paul wrote.

We believe the Sabbath IS Jesus Christ, not a day of the week.

We believe the Feasts are fulfilled in Christ the Messiah.

We don't believe that we have to follow laws given to non-gentiles, for we are gentiles.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432


I know, I used to be apart of that. They twisted Paul’s words and formed a doctrine as Peter said they would.

2 Peter 3:16
King James Version
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
 Quoting: -Kate-



Unfortunately, that verse must apply to others, for we are both learned AND stable.

Do you go up to Jerusalem to celebrate the Feast Days?
If not, then you are not keeping the Feasts.

Do you sacrifice a bull or goat at the Temple? No?
Then you are not fulfilling the Law.

Paul was taught the mystery of the Gospel of the Grace of God. That is what we are to believe in this Age of Grace.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432


How to celebrate the Feasts today. It’s not hard and less work then pagan christmas and easter.



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Only if you’re interested, if not, that’s ok. I choose to follow the instructions in scripture today. Not church traditions. I pray to learn YHWH’S ways.
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Re: Why I gave up christmas
Great one OP. Observe Hanukkah aka The Feast of Dedication as did Yeshua in the Book of John.

Without the Maccabean victory over Antiochus Epiphanies the seedline to Messiah could have been destroyed. Antiochus was a preview of the Antichrist and desecrated the temple by sacrificing a pig in it.

The Feast of Dedication/Hanukkah is a celebration of that glorious victory.
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hf
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Re: Why I gave up christmas
Jeremiah 10:3-5 kjv

For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. 4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. 5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go.
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Re: Why I gave up christmas
Modern weddings are from pagan roots.
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Re: Why I gave up christmas
I just dread it because my MIL loses all ability to reason or think

I’m a pagan so I love the tree and all the colours and lights!

:Christmaslights:
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You sound sad, like a blindfold lifted from your eyes and now the world you thought you were in looks differently than you imagined.
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Yeah I am sure Yeshua would agree with honoring Baal on December 25 by erecting an evergreen phallus, hanging balls from it and hosing it down with tinsel ejaculation.

Fly to Israel and talk to scholars.

We are clearly told in Zechariah that EVERYONE will be made to observe Tabernacles during the Millennial reign of Yeshua. Period. Also called Sukkot which scholars in Israel say is when Yeshua was born.

John 1:14
And the Word became flesh and tabernacled among us.

I am an Anti Windsor Messianic.

There is a Hebrew Roots movement that tries to say British royals are the royal blood line. Heavily Masonically influenced. However there are plenty of us who are not.
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Also going to add. When the two witnesses are slain it says people will rejoice and send gifts to one another because of it. Gee sounds like pagan Baal worship Christmas.
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This is why Alterwet’s version made the most sense. Jesus as the mystic who could do miracles was real, and there have been more like him.
The Jesus we are told is a created version from combinations of myths and legends.
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Sounds like you were more grounded on box wine.


Maybe get some real mental health assistance, instead of substituting religion for your other issues?
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Re: Why I gave up christmas
popcorn
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lots to think about here
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Re: Why I gave up christmas
Give up on Santa not Christmas

Santa works for the shareholder class

Santa makes all kids special

When that is clearly not the case

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lots to think about here
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Jeremiah 10:1-5 says the following, "Hear the word which the LORD speaks to you, O house of Israel. Thus says the LORD: Do not learn the way of the Gentiles; do not be dismayed at the signs of heaven, for the Gentiles are dismayed at them. For the customs of the peoples are futile; for one cuts a tree from the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the ax. They decorate it with silver and gold; they fasten it with nails and hammers so that it will not topple. They are upright, like a palm tree, and they cannot speak; they must be carried, because they cannot go by themselves. Do not be afraid of them, for they cannot do evil, nor can they do any good.”
1. “You can’t fire a cannon, from a canoe!”
2. “Strength is gained in the range it is trained.”
3. “If it doesn’t swim, run, or fly, or isn’t green and grow in the ground, don’t eat it.”
4. “Know that you have complete control over what you put in your mouth. No one ever ate anything by accident.”
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Re: Why I gave up christmas
what's left of my family never really "celebrated" since I was a kid
we gather to do the dinner
that's it

not into the 'commercialization" of any holiday

no tree, no huge gifts exchange etc.
just a big dinner


celebrating, participating or not

it's all good though

Colossians 2:15 - 16

15 Having disarmed principalities and powers,
He made a public spectacle of them,
triumphing over them in it.

16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink,
or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths,



cheers
oh hai!
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Re: Why I gave up christmas
Your wrong op.

Just because its a pagan festival means nout.

Christmas has a real reason in nature, and so does easter. European sensitive peoples worked these things out, as they are real things to celebrate.

You celebrate christmas for a real reason, just that ptb gave you a symbolic reason that resonated with the majority as the majority could not work out christmas or easter exists, if they were not told.

People should celebrate christmas, and what it means, as the meaning behind christmas, and how it affects all, is real.

Jesus is the sun in the sky, and every year our sun is reborn, and thats what christmas is, and what european sensitive peoples worked out long ago.

All the the things to do with christmas, and easter are real, just that the ptb gave you symbolic meanings, so people could understand to celebrate these things, as the majority would not be able to work these things out for themselves.
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Merry Christmas to Everyone! hugsxmas
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Re: Why I gave up christmas
Putin up all them lights wreaths and ornaments...and having to take them down did it for me.
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Jesus also didn't celebrate Easter/Resurrection Day for obvious reasons.

Of course he didn't celebrate Christmas.


And yes, The Church took a pagan day and turned it into something better. It is what you make of it. No Christian actually believes he was born in December, but since no one really knows the exact day, does it matter? It's just an observance.

Like I said, it is what you make of it.
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Merry Christmas to Everyone! hugsxmas
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you too!

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