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Jesus also didn't celebrate Easter/Resurrection Day for obvious reasons.

Of course he didn't celebrate Christmas.


And yes, The Church took a pagan day and turned it into something better. It is what you make of it. No Christian actually believes he was born in December, but since no one really knows the exact day, does it matter? It's just an observance.

Like I said, it is what you make of it.
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No

If your a sensitive human, and know what christmas day is, that day is not owned by pagans.

Humans all over this world work out things in total isolation, and that does not mean one copies from another.

If christmas, and easter was obvious, it would not be either special times, or celebrated as special, as most have no idea why they really are celebrated.

Being pagan, has no relevance to the fact that christmas, and easter exists, and european sensitive people worked out they existed, and meant something to humans, and all on this planet.

Both christmas day, and easter are gifts from god to the human race on planet earth, as some humans could work out they existed, and could teach it to humans who did not know they existed.
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Merry Christmas to Everyone! hugsxmas
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you too!

zimtstern1
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Thanks!
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What I find funny is how a wanna be christian can say it's ok to celebrate pagan holidays ( as it specifically says in bible don't cut a tree and eck it) but the ones in the bible are done away with.

Talk about asinine!

It's almost as sick as these liberal idiots.

Mind ain't right.

Comical stuff!
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True christians know Jesus never celebrated any birthdays but did the holy days in the book. We also know his death and resurrection is what we honor.

I don't debate facts cause all your doing is casting pearls

These are the lukewarm that will be spewed out of his mouth!

And what fool believes Friday to Sunday is 3 days

All Sunday counterfeit Christianity worship and we are to come out if that.
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the bible was written by MAN to control other MEN. Paganism in it's original form DID NOT include HEDONISM and was practiced by good people who knew the laws of karma and new the difference between right and wrong. Paganism has NOTHING to do with satanism or worshipping false gods.

Xtianity was used to indoctrinate the world BY FORCE (the crusades) to introduce psychological ineptitudes and hidden contradictions to set the stage for what is happening now.

Christians who point the finger and cry 'sheep' are the biggest hypocrites on the planet.

Paganism was destroyed because it threatened the existence of christianity, which is a religion created by man to control men, as are ALL ORGANIZED RELIGIONS.
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Re: Why I gave up christmas
Research the Faith you follow.

It’s a pagan celebration.

It’s not in scripture except for the warnings not to participate in pagan practices.

Our saviour didn’t celebrate it, He was here till He was 33 years old. He was born around September (fall) when His parents went from Bethlehem to Egypt.

(This will be my 3rd year of not participating. I’m Natsarim, we follow scripture, not any organized religion. We keep the Sabbath and the Feasts of YHWH, which we are instructed to do in scripture. I’m still learning all of this 😊
Sharing this now so friends no why I don’t say merry christmas back in advance.)



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In early fall
We can estimate when Jesus was born by counting backward from his death on Passover, Nisan 14 in the spring of the year 33 C.E. (John 19:14-16) Yahusha (Jesus) was about 30 years old when he began his three-and-a-half-year ministry, so he was born in the early fall of 2 B.C. —Luke 3:23.
 Quoting: -Kate-


I see nothing wrong with having a winter solstice celebration as long as religion isn't involved.




I don't give a shit about when Jesus was born.
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Jesus also didn't celebrate Easter/Resurrection Day for obvious reasons.

Of course he didn't celebrate Christmas.


And yes, The Church took a pagan day and turned it into something better. It is what you make of it. No Christian actually believes he was born in December, but since no one really knows the exact day, does it matter? It's just an observance.

Like I said, it is what you make of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72530568


No

If your a sensitive human, and know what christmas day is, that day is not owned by pagans.

Humans all over this world work out things in total isolation, and that does not mean one copies from another.

If christmas, and easter was obvious, it would not be either special times, or celebrated as special, as most have no idea why they really are celebrated.

Being pagan, has no relevance to the fact that christmas, and easter exists, and european sensitive people worked out they existed, and meant something to humans, and all on this planet.

Both christmas day, and easter are gifts from god to the human race on planet earth, as some humans could work out they existed, and could teach it to humans who did not know they existed.
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You've misunderstood me.
The pagan festivals existed prior to the first celebration of Christmas (336 AD).
The Church tried to over-write those pagan festivals with something better, to turn the people's focus to Jesus.
This is undeniable and actual church history - to deny this is foolish.
It was for the better.
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the bible was written by MAN to control other MEN. Paganism in it's original form DID NOT include HEDONISM and was practiced by good people who knew the laws of karma and new the difference between right and wrong. Paganism has NOTHING to do with satanism or worshipping false gods.

Xtianity was used to indoctrinate the world BY FORCE (the crusades) to introduce psychological ineptitudes and hidden contradictions to set the stage for what is happening now.

Christians who point the finger and cry 'sheep' are the biggest hypocrites on the planet.

Paganism was destroyed because it threatened the existence of christianity, which is a religion created by man to control men, as are ALL ORGANIZED RELIGIONS.
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You have learned your propaganda well.
Congratulations.
THEY would be proud.
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Merry Christmas to Everyone! hugsxmas
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Merry Christmas to Everyone! hugsxmas
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you too!

:zimtstern1:
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hf
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Re: Why I gave up christmas
the bible was written by MAN to control other MEN. Paganism in it's original form DID NOT include HEDONISM and was practiced by good people who knew the laws of karma and new the difference between right and wrong. Paganism has NOTHING to do with satanism or worshipping false gods.

Xtianity was used to indoctrinate the world BY FORCE (the crusades) to introduce psychological ineptitudes and hidden contradictions to set the stage for what is happening now.

Christians who point the finger and cry 'sheep' are the biggest hypocrites on the planet.

Paganism was destroyed because it threatened the existence of christianity, which is a religion created by man to control men, as are ALL ORGANIZED RELIGIONS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80462991


You have learned your propaganda well.
Congratulations.
THEY would be proud.
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Looks like you're pointing a finger at that poster while four fingers point right back at you.

hf
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Jesus also didn't celebrate Easter/Resurrection Day for obvious reasons.

Of course he didn't celebrate Christmas.


And yes, The Church took a pagan day and turned it into something better. It is what you make of it. No Christian actually believes he was born in December, but since no one really knows the exact day, does it matter? It's just an observance.

Like I said, it is what you make of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72530568


No

If your a sensitive human, and know what christmas day is, that day is not owned by pagans.

Humans all over this world work out things in total isolation, and that does not mean one copies from another.

If christmas, and easter was obvious, it would not be either special times, or celebrated as special, as most have no idea why they really are celebrated.

Being pagan, has no relevance to the fact that christmas, and easter exists, and european sensitive people worked out they existed, and meant something to humans, and all on this planet.

Both christmas day, and easter are gifts from god to the human race on planet earth, as some humans could work out they existed, and could teach it to humans who did not know they existed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80859509


You've misunderstood me.
The pagan festivals existed prior to the first celebration of Christmas (336 AD).
The Church tried to over-write those pagan festivals with something better, to turn the people's focus to Jesus.
This is undeniable and actual church history - to deny this is foolish.
It was for the better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72530568


Yes, it is obvious even if I didn't learn this. It is also weird how the (you know whos) always seem to have their own holidaze at the same time
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the bible was written by MAN to control other MEN. Paganism in it's original form DID NOT include HEDONISM and was practiced by good people who knew the laws of karma and new the difference between right and wrong. Paganism has NOTHING to do with satanism or worshipping false gods.

Xtianity was used to indoctrinate the world BY FORCE (the crusades) to introduce psychological ineptitudes and hidden contradictions to set the stage for what is happening now.

Christians who point the finger and cry 'sheep' are the biggest hypocrites on the planet.

Paganism was destroyed because it threatened the existence of christianity, which is a religion created by man to control men, as are ALL ORGANIZED RELIGIONS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80462991


You have learned your propaganda well.
Congratulations.
THEY would be proud.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72530568


ANother xtian pointing and crying sheep. Thanks for demonstrating the concept so accurately.

Go read the parts of the bible that were left out of the bible. The gospels of thomas, the gospels of jesus christ, the gospels of mary, the dead sea scrolls...

there's a reason they were left out.
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I did just because I can't stand it. too commercial and all that. Its not the birth of Christ either. Another good reason.
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Who cares about religious mumbo jumbo. It would really benefit this species if y'all could grow up and understand that god has a home within us all and is entirely independent of scripture, church, and the perversion of innate principles by humans with an agenda.

I was born connected to god and all the church did was try to control that and twist it to suit selfish needs. When I refused to allow others around me to push me into a belief system dictated by the church, my connection to god grew even stronger.

It's a silly and fun time to celebrate family and celebrate love. It doesn't have to be anything more than that.

Cheers.

hf
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the bible was written by MAN to control other MEN. Paganism in it's original form DID NOT include HEDONISM and was practiced by good people who knew the laws of karma and new the difference between right and wrong. Paganism has NOTHING to do with satanism or worshipping false gods.

Xtianity was used to indoctrinate the world BY FORCE (the crusades) to introduce psychological ineptitudes and hidden contradictions to set the stage for what is happening now.

Christians who point the finger and cry 'sheep' are the biggest hypocrites on the planet.

Paganism was destroyed because it threatened the existence of christianity, which is a religion created by man to control men, as are ALL ORGANIZED RELIGIONS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80462991


You have learned your propaganda well.
Congratulations.
THEY would be proud.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72530568


ANother xtian pointing and crying sheep. Thanks for demonstrating the concept so accurately.

Go read the parts of the bible that were left out of the bible. The gospels of thomas, the gospels of jesus christ, the gospels of mary, the dead sea scrolls...

there's a reason they were left out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80462991


He's right you know. Most of the bible was left out of the bible because HUMANS deemed it inappropriate and counter productive to their agendas.

Spoiler alert: the best and most enlightening parts were ommitted.
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Kneel to israel and god will forgive you.
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I did just because I can't stand it. too commercial and all that. Its not the birth of Christ either. Another good reason.
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He was born AUGUST 21.. & bc at around noon. And after the magnetic reversal.. that will be the date celebrated.
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I did just because I can't stand it. too commercial and all that. Its not the birth of Christ either. Another good reason.
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He was born AUGUST 21.. & bc at around noon. And after the magnetic reversal.. that will be the date celebrated.
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7bc... I have a typo
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Research the Faith you follow.

It’s a pagan celebration.

It’s not in scripture except for the warnings not to participate in pagan practices.

Our saviour didn’t celebrate it, He was here till He was 33 years old. He was born around September (fall) when His parents went from Bethlehem to Egypt.and

(This will be my 3rd year of not participating. I’m Natsarim, we follow scripture, not any organized religion. We keep the Sabbath and the Feasts of YHWH, which we are instructed to do in scripture. I’m still learning all of this 😊
Sharing this now so friends no why I don’t say merry christmas back in advance.)



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In early fall
We can estimate when Jesus was born by counting backward from his death on Passover, Nisan 14 in the spring of the year 33 C.E. (John 19:14-16) Yahusha (Jesus) was about 30 years old when he began his three-and-a-half-year ministry, so he was born in the early fall of 2 B.C. —Luke 3:23.
 Quoting: -Kate-

You are in error... the date .. correct is given in the Urantia book.. which is what I posted. and your savior did NOT die on the cross.. he survived it... and made his way to India over time.. settling in Kashmir and there are accurate records on that.. He dropped his suit of meat... at about 115 years of age... and the suit of meat is buried in a marked place in Srinagar. Suits of meat do NOT to heaven people.. and he is not your savior.. He came to tell humans they must grow their own spirits by intent and that Many humans are indwelled by the father Spirit Fragment. You cannot argue this with me.. do NOT TRY. It is just the facts and there are lots more facts that will will be told later ...

You are not saved by joining any church or knowing Jesus.. the cosmos does NOT work this way. There is no hell either..that is stupid. You are totally responsible for your own spiritual growth but your Indwelling Father .. or your Higher self or your angels can help but first you must seek .
It works the SAME WAY for Humans throught the entire MASSIVE CREATION.

It is not the use of reasoning mind when an great being INCARNATES here and then creates a special church as the only way to get to the heaven and eternity you ones cannot even comprehend.. you are so mind controlled.

You have in fact HINDERED the process of his return.. in the belief that everyone not a Christian over the last 2000 years go to hell. It is sick and evil.
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Research the Faith you follow.

It’s a pagan celebration.

It’s not in scripture except for the warnings not to participate in pagan practices.

Our saviour didn’t celebrate it, He was here till He was 33 years old. He was born around September (fall) when His parents went from Bethlehem to Egypt.and

(This will be my 3rd year of not participating. I’m Natsarim, we follow scripture, not any organized religion. We keep the Sabbath and the Feasts of YHWH, which we are instructed to do in scripture. I’m still learning all of this 😊
Sharing this now so friends no why I don’t say merry christmas back in advance.)



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In early fall
We can estimate when Jesus was born by counting backward from his death on Passover, Nisan 14 in the spring of the year 33 C.E. (John 19:14-16) Yahusha (Jesus) was about 30 years old when he began his three-and-a-half-year ministry, so he was born in the early fall of 2 B.C. —Luke 3:23.
 Quoting: -Kate-

You are in error... the date .. correct is given in the Urantia book.. which is what I posted. and your savior did NOT die on the cross.. he survived it... and made his way to India over time.. settling in Kashmir and there are accurate records on that.. He dropped his suit of meat... at about 115 years of age... and the suit of meat is buried in a marked place in Srinagar. Suits of meat do NOT to heaven people.. and he is not your savior.. He came to tell humans they must grow their own spirits by intent and that Many humans are indwelled by the father Spirit Fragment. You cannot argue this with me.. do NOT TRY. It is just the facts and there are lots more facts that will will be told later ...

You are not saved by joining any church or knowing Jesus.. the cosmos does NOT work this way. There is no hell either..that is stupid. You are totally responsible for your own spiritual growth but your Indwelling Father .. or your Higher self or your angels can help but first you must seek .
It works the SAME WAY for Humans throught the entire MASSIVE CREATION.

It is not the use of reasoning mind when an great being INCARNATES here and then creates a special church as the only way to get to the heaven and eternity you ones cannot even comprehend.. you are so mind controlled.

You have in fact HINDERED the process of his return.. in the belief that everyone not a Christian over the last 2000 years go to hell. It is sick and evil.
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And is perpetuated by hollywood every chance they get. Let that sink in.
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Then maybe you shouldnt have asked to be able to post under that username none the less - do what your doing / condoning referencing what that name along with the other 5+ posters on here with your pysops none the less quoteing hardenthefup

with a title we live in a faithless ungodly world when this world is the venom yet the venom is cured but you all choose to keep doing what you do even tho codenames such as red and reds father is gone yet you all still wanna live in a drug like world filled with true human emotions rather then your own stuck in a playing mind like world taking away the true humans while you float this world


I guess trying to take down the Arctiect was impossible so now the government and civilization continued on its path trying to reawaken Red society is un grateful in all of its counts


enjoy the downfall imposter of kate i hope it was worth it for that dude how old was he while the child watched it all?
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If one finds joy and love celebrating Christmas, then it matters not whether Christmas is a Pagan celebration or not.

Darkness can not exist where there is joy and love.
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the bible was written by MAN to control other MEN. Paganism in it's original form DID NOT include HEDONISM and was practiced by good people who knew the laws of karma and new the difference between right and wrong. Paganism has NOTHING to do with satanism or worshipping false gods.

Xtianity was used to indoctrinate the world BY FORCE (the crusades) to introduce psychological ineptitudes and hidden contradictions to set the stage for what is happening now.

Christians who point the finger and cry 'sheep' are the biggest hypocrites on the planet.

Paganism was destroyed because it threatened the existence of christianity, which is a religion created by man to control men, as are ALL ORGANIZED RELIGIONS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80462991


You have learned your propaganda well.
Congratulations.
THEY would be proud.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72530568


Looks like you're pointing a finger at that poster while four fingers point right back at you.

hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80834607


same to you.
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the bible was written by MAN to control other MEN. Paganism in it's original form DID NOT include HEDONISM and was practiced by good people who knew the laws of karma and new the difference between right and wrong. Paganism has NOTHING to do with satanism or worshipping false gods.

Xtianity was used to indoctrinate the world BY FORCE (the crusades) to introduce psychological ineptitudes and hidden contradictions to set the stage for what is happening now.

Christians who point the finger and cry 'sheep' are the biggest hypocrites on the planet.

Paganism was destroyed because it threatened the existence of christianity, which is a religion created by man to control men, as are ALL ORGANIZED RELIGIONS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80462991


You have learned your propaganda well.
Congratulations.
THEY would be proud.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72530568


Looks like you're pointing a finger at that poster while four fingers point right back at you.

hf
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same to you.
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i know you are but what am i?
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Frohe Weihnachten Forever!!!
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What I find funny is how a wanna be christian can say it's ok to celebrate pagan holidays ( as it specifically says in bible don't cut a tree and eck it) but the ones in the bible are done away with.

Talk about asinine!

It's almost as sick as these liberal idiots.

Mind ain't right.

Comical stuff!
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don't fall for j dcript against nirthern europeans.

God never said that.....the j did.
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Yeah I am sure Yeshua would agree with honoring Baal on December 25 by erecting an evergreen phallus, hanging balls from it and hosing it down with tinsel ejaculation.

Fly to Israel and talk to scholars.

We are clearly told in Zechariah that EVERYONE will be made to observe Tabernacles during the Millennial reign of Yeshua. Period. Also called Sukkot which scholars in Israel say is when Yeshua was born.

John 1:14
And the Word became flesh and tabernacled among us.

I am an Anti Windsor Messianic.

There is a Hebrew Roots movement that tries to say British royals are the royal blood line. Heavily Masonically influenced. However there are plenty of us who are not.
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Must do all of this and must not do any of that.

So many doctrines, rituals, and traditions people must do depending on their beliefs to be more in touch with God.

God wants to be found by us, and would not make us jump through so many hoops to do so.

All it takes is for us to have sincere love for oneself, for others, and for everything including our enemies and those who don't have the same perspectives as our own.

Having love brings us to become in unity and alliance with God. There is physics, metaphysics, behind that.

Love unites us in compassion and equality.

Ego divides us in hatred and superiority.
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At least some are awake to the Lies here!

hf
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Sounds like you were more grounded on box wine.


Maybe get some real mental health assistance, instead of substituting religion for your other issues?
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For following what scripture says, I don’t think so.
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"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ." Col 2:16-17


I guess you failed to read this verse that is in your Bible.

Feast Days, Holy Days, Sabbath Days are a shadow.
A shadow of the good things to come in Christ.

We now have Christ with us, therefore we don't need your Feast Days, Holy Days and Sabbath Days.

Get it???





GLP