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Everyone justifies themselves first and foremost

and this always involves putting down others...
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Research the Faith you follow.

It’s a pagan celebration.

It’s not in scripture except for the warnings not to participate in pagan practices.

Our saviour didn’t celebrate it, He was here till He was 33 years old. He was born around September (fall) when His parents went from Bethlehem to Egypt.

(This will be my 3rd year of not participating. I’m Natsarim, we follow scripture, not any organized religion. We keep the Sabbath and the Feasts of YHWH, which we are instructed to do in scripture. I’m still learning all of this 😊
Sharing this now so friends know why I don’t say merry christmas back in advance.)



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In early fall
We can estimate when Jesus was born by counting backward from his death on Passover, Nisan 14 in the spring of the year 33 C.E. (John 19:14-16) Yahusha (Jesus) was about 30 years old when he began his three-and-a-half-year ministry, so he was born in the early fall of 2 B.C. —Luke 3:23.
 Quoting: -Kate-


You are 100% correct OP.

For the reasons you posted and many more
I quit celebrating Christmas nearly 20 years ago because of this.
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To the people that gave up Christmas...

Did you also give up Easter, the cross, wedding rings and come up with new names for the months and days of the week?
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Jeremiah 10:3-4 King James Version (KJV)
For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

I know what God's word says!

Fools despise wisdom!

Stop casting pearls to swine!

People will justify what they want. Lie to your kids kneel to the tree idol! You scrafice your kids to demons and love lies! You will be given up to it!

Imagine that every home that celebrated holloween, that reality hits their home! You like going into horror houses where people are chained up and cut up? You like watching fear movies???? You deserve to get what you live to watch! O and its coming!!!

Keep you pagan holidays!

Many perish for lack of knowledge aka idiots o I mean fools
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Perfect illustration of people (you) who don't read an entire chapter and who pluck verses out of their context.

This verse is talking about carving a tree into a graven image and plating it with silver/gold to make an idol.

A Christmas tree isn't carved, there is no molten plating and there is no idol image.

How easily you call other people fools.
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Everyone justifies themselves first and foremost

and this always involves putting down others...
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Christmas.....the time parents lie to their children about a fat man in a red suit that delivers gifts across the whole world with flying reindeer.

Then they set up an idol in their home and decorate it and give gifts to one another around it. Which is expressly spoken of against in scripture, breaking the first of the ten commandments. The very same ten commandments that are used to identify Gods Saints from the rest of the world.

Jesus says, “You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies” (John 8:44).

1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 6He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

The following doesn't just apply to long dead people. Nor is it restricted to the practices of those days.

Mark 7:6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.

7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.

9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

Then.....scripture tells us, many will be offended in the last days. Why? They don't want to hear the truth, but would rather continue practicing lies.

Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many.

What is Christmas and all of it's pagan rites and lies, but a deceptive narrative that is supposedly supposed to honor Christ, but in no manner does? How can it, with the idol worship and the lies and the vanity? Those are attributes of Satan, not Christ.

What did Christ tell the adulterous woman? Go and sin no more. He would tell an idol worshiping pagan the same. In fact he does.

Those who are offended by what I just said, would rather be children of Satan rather than brothers with Christ. They want you to participate with them. When you don't, or won't, you are castigated for it, just as Jesus was, which is what he says will happen.

Hold the line.....it will all be over soon and God knows His people. They are the ones that reject the world and come in and sup with him instead, just as those of his choosing did on the night he was betrayed and hung on the cross.

Christ told them, and all who would come after him and them, to make an annual observance of the commemoration of his death.

Choose this day whom you will follow. It does matter.

Here is the patience of the Saints; Here are they that keep the Commandments of God and the Faith of Jesus. Revelation 14:12
 Quoting: Os76*




That sums it up! Thank you! hf
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Many will refuse to give up paganism and when the 2 witnesses are killed they will exchange presents to celebrate their death.
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Research the Faith you follow.

It’s a pagan celebration.

It’s not in scripture except for the warnings not to participate in pagan practices.

Our saviour didn’t celebrate it, He was here till He was 33 years old. He was born around September (fall) when His parents went from Bethlehem to Egypt.

(This will be my 3rd year of not participating. I’m Natsarim, we follow scripture, not any organized religion. We keep the Sabbath and the Feasts of YHWH, which we are instructed to do in scripture. I’m still learning all of this 😊
Sharing this now so friends know why I don’t say merry christmas back in advance.)



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In early fall
We can estimate when Jesus was born by counting backward from his death on Passover, Nisan 14 in the spring of the year 33 C.E. (John 19:14-16) Yahusha (Jesus) was about 30 years old when he began his three-and-a-half-year ministry, so he was born in the early fall of 2 B.C. —Luke 3:23.
 Quoting: -Kate-


You are 100% correct OP.

For the reasons you posted and many more
I quit celebrating Christmas nearly 20 years ago because of this.
 Quoting: Etrnl_Velocity

he never died.. he survived the cross and went to Syria and India ... and he was born in 7 bs.. so your calendars are fucked. He was born on August 21 of 7 bc That was given in the Urantia Book and its in the Phoenix journals too
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Re: Why I gave up christmas
Research the Faith you follow.

It’s a pagan celebration.

It’s not in scripture except for the warnings not to participate in pagan practices.

Our saviour didn’t celebrate it, He was here till He was 33 years old. He was born around September (fall) when His parents went from Bethlehem to Egypt.

(This will be my 3rd year of not participating. I’m Natsarim, we follow scripture, not any organized religion. We keep the Sabbath and the Feasts of YHWH, which we are instructed to do in scripture. I’m still learning all of this 😊
Sharing this now so friends know why I don’t say merry christmas back in advance.)



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In early fall
We can estimate when Jesus was born by counting backward from his death on Passover, Nisan 14 in the spring of the year 33 C.E. (John 19:14-16) Yahusha (Jesus) was about 30 years old when he began his three-and-a-half-year ministry, so he was born in the early fall of 2 B.C. —Luke 3:23.
 Quoting: -Kate-


Here is a bunch of facts -maketh ye a religion with it

the 22 -23=-24 th of December the sun stops in its relative motion as viewed in the southern hemisphere and on December 25th the sun moves again .

i think someone taught you the kids version the sun of god died for 3 days and the sun is born today .

Its the 13 th time they spun that one
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Research the Faith you follow.

It’s a pagan celebration.

It’s not in scripture except for the warnings not to participate in pagan practices.

Our saviour didn’t celebrate it, He was here till He was 33 years old. He was born around September (fall) when His parents went from Bethlehem to Egypt.

(This will be my 3rd year of not participating. I’m Natsarim, we follow scripture, not any organized religion. We keep the Sabbath and the Feasts of YHWH, which we are instructed to do in scripture. I’m still learning all of this 😊
Sharing this now so friends know why I don’t say merry christmas back in advance.)



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In early fall
We can estimate when Jesus was born by counting backward from his death on Passover, Nisan 14 in the spring of the year 33 C.E. (John 19:14-16) Yahusha (Jesus) was about 30 years old when he began his three-and-a-half-year ministry, so he was born in the early fall of 2 B.C. —Luke 3:23.
 Quoting: -Kate-


Here is a bunch of facts -maketh ye a religion with it

the 22 -23=-24 th of December the sun stops in its relative motion as viewed in the southern hemisphere and on December 25th the sun moves again .

i think someone taught you the kids version the sun of god died for 3 days and the sun is born today .

Its the 13 th time they spun that one
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Take your shit and haul it out the door.

Yeshua died and arose from the grave

The sun god shit you spew is more in line with Antichrist Windsor and Baal.

Prince William's mother was induced to give birth to him on June 21st.They practice Egyptian sun god worship.

You are of your father THE DEVIL
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Christmas.....the time parents lie to their children about a fat man in a red suit that delivers gifts across the whole world with flying reindeer.

Then they set up an idol in their home and decorate it and give gifts to one another around it. Which is expressly spoken of against in scripture, breaking the first of the ten commandments. The very same ten commandments that are used to identify Gods Saints from the rest of the world.

Jesus says, “You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies” (John 8:44).

1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 6He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

The following doesn't just apply to long dead people. Nor is it restricted to the practices of those days.

Mark 7:6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.

7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.

9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

Then.....scripture tells us, many will be offended in the last days. Why? They don't want to hear the truth, but would rather continue practicing lies.

Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many.

What is Christmas and all of it's pagan rites and lies, but a deceptive narrative that is supposedly supposed to honor Christ, but in no manner does? How can it, with the idol worship and the lies and the vanity? Those are attributes of Satan, not Christ.

What did Christ tell the adulterous woman? Go and sin no more. He would tell an idol worshiping pagan the same. In fact he does.

Those who are offended by what I just said, would rather be children of Satan rather than brothers with Christ. They want you to participate with them. When you don't, or won't, you are castigated for it, just as Jesus was, which is what he says will happen.

Hold the line.....it will all be over soon and God knows His people. They are the ones that reject the world and come in and sup with him instead, just as those of his choosing did on the night he was betrayed and hung on the cross.

Christ told them, and all who would come after him and them, to make an annual observance of the commemoration of his death.

Choose this day whom you will follow. It does matter.

Here is the patience of the Saints; Here are they that keep the Commandments of God and the Faith of Jesus. Revelation 14:12
 Quoting: Os76*




That sums it up! Thank you! hf
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Thank God! I am just a messenger.
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I’m Natsarim, we follow scripture, not any organized religion. We keep the Sabbath and the Feasts of YHWH, which we are instructed to do in scripture.
 Quoting: -Kate-



I'm Southern Baptist.

We celebrate the Grace of God through The Gospel of Jesus Christ.

We believe that one day is no holier than another, just as The Apostle Paul wrote.

We believe the Sabbath IS Jesus Christ, not a day of the week.

We believe the Feasts are fulfilled in Christ the Messiah.

We don't believe that we have to follow laws given to non-gentiles, for we are gentiles.
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I know, I used to be apart of that. They twisted Paul’s words and formed a doctrine as Peter said they would.

2 Peter 3:16
King James Version
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
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Hebrew roots bullchit? His name is Jesus to us in the Western world we were given a new place to live and a new living language!
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No Natsarim is not a part of the Hebrew roots movement. We are the entire Bible and removed books studiers and followers.
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Sounds like you were more grounded on box wine.


Maybe get some real mental health assistance, instead of substituting religion for your other issues?
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For following what scripture says, I don’t think so.
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I like Christmas. I once was upset by the bastardization of the whole thing, but when it’s about Jesus none of that other stuff matters. Just keep Jesus in your heart and have a Merry Christmas
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Except it’s a Pagan sun worshiping celebration and has nothing to do with Yahusha (Jesus).
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Merry Christmas

hf
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Merry Christ Mass

Mass is a Catholic term meaning death sacrifice.

You are literally saying Happy death to Christ.

It's why witches love to say it.
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Yep, and the cross itself has been turned into a graven image!

Christianity is a False religion created by Rome, so was Islam!
It’s scary to learn the truth.

Here’s the thing though, I know lots of Christians that truly love YHWH and His Son. That’s not gone anywhere, just the church doctrines.

The only way to find your way out is to read Genesis to Revelation yourself. Then you’ll see! We praise the same.

hf
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You've changed the direction of this thread from giving up Christmas to "Christianity was created by Rome" and you've seemingly given up Christ.

Should I make a thread "Why I don't celebrate Ramadan"?

OK -- we get it.
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I have not given up Yahusha at all ever, He reconciled me back to our Father.
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You've changed the direction of this thread from giving up Christmas to "Christianity was created by Rome" and you've seemingly given up Christ.

Should I make a thread "Why I don't celebrate Ramadan"?

OK -- we get it.
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I have not given up Yahusha at all ever, He reconciled me back to our Father.
 Quoting: -Kate-


As he did me, also.

The demons have apparently noticed your thread, Kate.
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I know. :(
 Quoting: -Kate-


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Hi Kate, you know we all have our own spiritual/religious beliefs. Nobody thinks exactly the same way about everything. Just imagine if we all posted in such a way, it comes off as you feeling superior in some way, my way or the highway, even if you don't mean it like that.

GLP has been good to you over the years. A lot of kindness, patience and compassion has been shown towards you. I know I always cared about you during the tough times. Can't you just accept everyone for who they are instead of using this as a platform to tell everyone they've got it wrong?

I'm sorry.


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Research the Faith you follow.

It’s a pagan celebration.
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Jeremiah 10

2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3 For the customs of the people are vain:['u]

for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
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I'm still paying off my credit cards from trying to impress friends neighbors and family with how much "christmas spirit" I have for the last 5 years.

Why is everyone in debt?

How much energy is wasted on these pointless and fake "holidays".

I bet many people waste $10,000 or more every year on stuff that was gargabe when it was made and it goes straight to the landfill after a few days or weeks because of these phony holidays and the peer pressure that goes along with them.
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I once asked my grandma why they couldn't just get me one good Christmas present that I really want instead of a bunch of smaller gifts that I don't really want.

She didn't give me an answer but I think I know what the reasoning was.

It was because having a bunch of wrapped boxes of crap under the tree looks much more impressive and looks more like the Christmas that people see on tv.

Typical mterialistic brainwashed slave behavior.
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I’m Natsarim, we follow scripture, not any organized religion. We keep the Sabbath and the Feasts of YHWH, which we are instructed to do in scripture.
 Quoting: -Kate-



I'm Southern Baptist.

We celebrate the Grace of God through The Gospel of Jesus Christ.

We believe that one day is no holier than another, just as The Apostle Paul wrote.

We believe the Sabbath IS Jesus Christ, not a day of the week.

We believe the Feasts are fulfilled in Christ the Messiah.

We don't believe that we have to follow laws given to non-gentiles, for we are gentiles.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432


Putting aside the Commandments of God, teaching as doctrine the traditions of men.
Whoa is you.
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Imagine thinking your going to
Heaven by your own good works,and
dismissing what Jesus did on
the cross.Truly sad!
Have to be washed in the blood.
Get yourself under the right
covenant,or you can try it your
way in the Tribulation.
Two roofs over my head
Crichton clan-God.Send.Grace

Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth (2 Timothy 2:15)
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Research the Faith you follow.

It’s a pagan celebration.

It’s not in scripture except for the warnings not to participate in pagan practices.

Our saviour didn’t celebrate it, He was here till He was 33 years old. He was born around September (fall) when His parents went from Bethlehem to Egypt.

(This will be my 3rd year of not participating. I’m Natsarim, we follow scripture, not any organized religion. We keep the Sabbath and the Feasts of YHWH, which we are instructed to do in scripture. I’m still learning all of this 😊
Sharing this now so friends know why I don’t say merry christmas back in advance.)



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In early fall
We can estimate when Jesus was born by counting backward from his death on Passover, Nisan 14 in the spring of the year 33 C.E. (John 19:14-16) Yahusha (Jesus) was about 30 years old when he began his three-and-a-half-year ministry, so he was born in the early fall of 2 B.C. —Luke 3:23.
 Quoting: -Kate-


It does not matter. Religion is mythology too. Christmas as a concept though celbrates what humankind should be if God was actually incharge. So, get over it fool. God does not care about spacific dates or silly beliefs about a book written by mortals. Itis the principle of how we treat each other. Did't you learn anything from your relgious text? Or do you just enjoy being a false, self righious profit of Christain virtue signalers?

Idiot.
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I don't celebrate Christmas but I do celebrate on the 21st - the winter solstice - and yes I call myself a follower of Jesus Christ.

I'm not participating in a pagan ritual or honoring another so-called god.

Just glad that the shortest day is here and now days will begin to get longer, temperatures will soon be warming up and we can turn our attention to sowing and planting.

That's worthy of a family celebration.

My Heavenly Father knows what I'm doing, he knows there is no worship of pagan idols, and I will pray to him and thank him as I do every day.
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It's a great excuse to get together and watch little kids get gifts and eat a delicious feast.

Plus it's also a solstice or something...


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Oh interesting. So you also not eat unclean foods and honor your time of uncleanliness each month? Do you honor all of law or just some?





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