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Were the spells in Harry Potter books real; if so, did they program the young readers for bad?

 
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Our church has always discouraged these books.

The way the cast turned against the writer due to her not praising the lgbt bunch, id have to agree about the spells being real.
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No and no. JK Rowling doesn't seem to know enough knowledge about metaphysical philosophy or any actual magical systems to even make a compelling read for those who have. There was more accuracy in the lore of "Supernatural" then any of the harry potter books.

The only thing it programmed it's readers to do was act like idiots mimicking magic without ever actually reading any books about it.
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Yep. Magick is internal...it's the synergy between the conscious and subconscious mind. In Harry Potter, Magick was portrayed as something external/physical that was amplified by a wand.
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I read that the spells were real. If they were and if so many kids were reading them and loving the books; well....
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Technically, everything - every single thing - that a person says, thinks or writes is a spell. Just think of the word itself: "Spelling".

All words and statements have a power far beyond what most people imagine to be true.

However, if you're speaking strictly of paganism and/or witchcraft, in particular...No, the spells aren't actually real. At least, not at all in the sense that you mean.

And, even if they were, I don't think I've come across any "spells" in the Harry Potter books that would lead to the creation of social justice warriors. (Not that I'm a fan, myself; I just had friends and family members who were.)

Social justice warriors were created mostly by continuous propaganda on the part of schools, the entertainment industry, and social media - and many of today's SJWs were too young to have even been part of the Harry Potter phenomenon.
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Okay, perhaps I used the "social justice warrior" thing wrong--I can see that.
My question is actually bigger than that. I should have simply said, "If there are actual black spells in the books, could they have had an impact on the generation all reading the books?"
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Oh fk? get a latin dictionary ya TWIT?

They said sht like "go upwards" "let me in" and some of it was just effect.

Its strategically written by a man hating satanist euro bich and your main concern is "magic snake i made!" In latin....

Every day the satanists are made to look like the only choice or you're a child like silly tard that deserves laughed at
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Years ago, when Harry Potter came out, it was the strangest thing ever. You could walk into the classrooms and all of the kids loved the books. Now, this can happen with amazing books, but they really did take the generation by a storm.

Then I heard that the spells in the book might be real??? Lifted from sources or like when they do rituals of the Superbowl halftime show where they put in subliminal messages, etc???

So, I have to wonder--were the spells that were used in Harry Potter books part of the agenda?
Do they contribute to some of the brainwashing that we see in the generation that is young adults at this time?

Just asking.


SmileyGlasbaffle
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or it was a co-opted movie script that they rushed out and eenie meanie miney mo bullshit, trying to emulate a jrr tolkien for the costco generation.

gee, i wonder which one is easier to swallow
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Those spells aren't real. Real spells require more than a waving stick and words. Offerings and actions are needed to perform inter dimensional activity. This is me by the way, I logged out to remain in the background.
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Real magic requires sacrifice. Some kind of blood sacrifice works best.
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Love this thread. 5 stars.

Slave Code - The Hidden Mind Program Inside The Language


Work week = work weak. Weekend = weakened. So you arrive "weakened" to your
"weekend" from your work week, because the work made you weak. They're
called week days because they put you into a weak daze. A break is called a
break, during your slave filled day, because most slaves would "break"
without the break. Our slave masters know this and provide the break because
it helps produce more milk from the human cattle. The original break of
course given to a slave came when they passed out from complete exhaustion
or actually died. The slave owner would say he's broke, broken or taking a
permanent break. How do you pronounce "wor"? That's right, it's pronounced
"WAR" and "WOR" with a "K" on the end of it is "WORK." Did you know K is
the Egyptian letter for death? So work actually means war plus death. The
use of a hypno based language, designed by our humans farmers, helps
increase control over the slave class......by planting the fertile
subconscious with seeds of perpetual servitude. Control is CON-TROLL, the
con job designed for the trolls.

You get up to the morning, but mourning is a form of sorrow or grieving.
You say "hello" as you arrive but why is our greeting "hell-low"? Why is
"hell" a part of our greeting? Why do other words referring to hot places
surround us like "hotmail" (hot-male) or firefox. Who is the historical hot
male? (aka.....the devil......which is the word "lived" spelled backwards)
You get up in the morning (mourning) to earn a living but earn is also "urn",
a vessel to keep the cremated ashes of your body. Mourning (morning) is another
word synonymous with death. You wake (funeral wake) from your slum-ber (from
your slum) with coffee, the same prefix used in the word coffin, Egyptian in
origin, originally spelled KAffee or KAffin, KA meaning the spirit after death.
You go to your job but Job in the bible is a man who's heavily tormented by God.
(pronounced Joob) Job in the bible has his wealth, health and children stolen
from him by Satan but Satan was given permission by God to do so. Why is our
work (our job) literally named after a man (Job) who has is health, children
and wealth taken away? Why is God and Satan working together on Job, to make his
life more miserable? For our slavery we're given $20 bills, $50 bills, $100
bills etc......but aren't bills something you pay, something you owe? At a
restaurant if you're given "a bill" for $50, don't you owe $50? And there lies
the secret in plain sight, our payments are called bills by our human farmers
because we owe it all back to them, first in taxes and then in useless
meaningless purchases, as we waste our money trying to rabidly decorate our jail
cell down on the human farm. We spend our bills on soulless purchases from large
corporations that our social engineers own. They laugh at how inept we are.This
is why most people have no money, because we're not being paid to be slaves,
we're being given bills that we need to pay. We're paying to be slaves.

You obey the watch to arrive on time because the watch is designed to be the
watcher or slave driver. What drives the slaves to work? The watch watches you
and signifies the wrist chain worn by someone who isn't in control of their time.
The neck tie was originally designed to signify the dog collar or neck chain,
meaning being owned and controlled by someone else. You need to have a "collar
shirt" on to where the neck tie around your throat. The neck tie means you're
tied and controlled by another, a slave to the script. The slave can only pick
the color and quality of their tie but can never choose to be free of the tie
around their neck. Most people at work have a title. Title is really TIE-TELL,
the symbolism of how your title tells others who you are tied to. Your TIE-TELL
signifies who controls the tie (dog collar) around your neck, around the "collar"
shirt. People often wear a uniform. Uniform is derived from the word UNI, meaning
one and form, meaning "a way to be". Uniform means you're programming and
conditioned to act like everyone else wearing the same uni-form, equaling no
independence and no free will. Your morality and ethics are spoken for. Inject
that other slave with a toxic vaccine. Serve that other slave some poisonous
coffee. Go kill slaves in other countries, inside fake wars where slave master
controls both sides. Welcome to the slave life.

The suit and tie is our most common uniform, signifying our willingness to
outsource our morality and ethics to another. Your behavior dictated by forces
outside of yourself, the removal of free will. You arrive on time. The word time
is ti-me or tie-me........tie me to the chains so the work can begin. Put the tie
around my neck, so I can obey and comply to slave master. The cuff links represent
the hand cuffs or links of another slavery based chain around the wrist yet if
they're made from gold, we think we're free. We lie to ourselves because lying is
a word that means "we lie down", submitting to our slavery, instead of standing up
to slave master. We've exchanged our chains of cast iron for chains of gold. The
person in "charge" means the person who conducts the electricity, as charge is an
electrical or energy term. This describes the energy thrown into us from slave
master, making us perform and dance with their electricity, as we've had our own
personal electrical charge of free will surgically removed by master's indoctrination
systems and sleights of mind.

During conventional slavery, the slave owner had to incur all costs including housing,
health care, food, cleaning of the slave quarters, clothing, birthing of the child
slaves, raising the child slaves, transportation of the slaves back and forth from
work, celebrations, clean up after a natural disaster, slave entertainment, schooling
of the new slave children to be good slaves etc etc. A slave owner's profit was always
revenue minus expenses, no different than any business. The big trick was to tell the
slaves that they were free, let them pay all those expenses, allow them to come back
to the plantations and then to tax them in order to actually make more profit compared
to the original slavery concept, with little to no chance of rebellion or resistance.
All taxation is meant to increase a slave's dependence on their slavery, as the people
taking the tax away from the slaves print the money themselves and therefore don't have
any use for it. Taxation is about keeping the slave down. That's it. Taxation has one
purpose and one purpose only. To make the slave dependent on coming back to the modern
plantations of slavery, day in and day out. If the slave starts to save their money,
give them a TV full of negative role modelling and watch the slave magically go into
debt. If the slave still has money, organize a stock market crash or increases the taxes
(theft). The people who print the money, have no use for extra fake paper money, which
they can print at anytime and in any quantity they desire. The entire drive of the tax
system is to make sure the slave has no extra money, as to provide them with enough
freedom to figure any of this out. Slavery wasn't abolished, the plantation was simply
expanded and they mock us inside the language. Everyone was tricked into becoming a
slave, while believing they're free. The language is loaded with many dis-empowering
subconscious cues because our human farmers have been at this game much longer than
they'll allow us to know. Do you know what's going on? Are you sure?
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Do you honestly think this woman became the best selling author in HISTORY by being an outsider; and interloper?

Do you really think they would have allowed her to outsell THE BIBLE? The Bible was the best selling book until Harry Potter FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.

She has to be a Supreme Witch, has to be. And more.
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Years ago, when Harry Potter came out, it was the strangest thing ever. You could walk into the classrooms and all of the kids loved the books. Now, this can happen with amazing books, but they really did take the generation by a storm.

Then I heard that the spells in the book might be real??? Lifted from sources or like when they do rituals of the Superbowl halftime show where they put in subliminal messages, etc???

So, I have to wonder--were the spells that were used in Harry Potter books part of the agenda?
Do they contribute to some of the brainwashing that we see in the generation that is young adults at this time?

Just asking.


SmileyGlasbaffle
 Quoting: wkk


Lol...

Silly y'all.






YES, I WROTE IT, MERE CHARACTER I NAMED.
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they made food and drink tampering acceptable if you were from a good house and fighting evil in your peergroup

send her up the chimney, poof?

its all shit, from goosebumps to stephen king, the whole culture is steeped and marinated in occult dabbling since 70's

now go check out witches of instagram, raised on pottermania
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More on the slave code:

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Do you honestly think this woman became the best selling author in HISTORY by being an outsider; and interloper?

Do you really think they would have allowed her to outsell THE BIBLE? The Bible was the best selling book until Harry Potter FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.

She has to be a Supreme Witch, has to be. And more.
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and do you honestly believe it wasn't written by a team that works at MARVEL? the yelling newspaper git in spiderman 1 with toby mcgwire wrote most of it.
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I'm sorry week-end slave, but my suit means I have brains that will make you run and am no easy fkr to mess with. Its not my "uniform" to advertise selling my morality, it's my bombproof dignity and willingness to bomb you right out of my path.

Maybe you wrap it up to look like a scrivener and go begging? I do it so my woman will take one look and smack you on general purposes.

Maybe its the mind and the fellow in it.

Lions, bears (bloody sleazing sharks) don't go around naked - or it would be sparta and I'm good with that?

(Fkn qabala wizards. If they sat in a box and spit fortunes they could get a quarter)
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Harry Potter's magic wand was made from Wood of the Holly Tree, and it was capable of putting people under spells.

Wood of Holly = Hollywood

Hollywood Hypnotizes
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A few interesting Conspiracy Theories about Harry Potter.

The Harry Potter books are are most definitely occult.

J. K. Rowling did not write the books; they were actually written by committee of MI6, who are in communication with demonic entities.

The Christians who cried "fowl" when Harry Potter started taking over were actually RIGHT. The book series was a major knock-out blow to the popularity and faith of Christianity, and was a major contributor to the weakening of the religion.

I actually quite like the Harry Potter books, but they were overall bad for the minds and spirituality of the majority of people.
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they made food and drink tampering acceptable if you were from a good house and fighting evil in your peergroup

send her up the chimney, poof?

its all shit, from goosebumps to stephen king, the whole culture is steeped and marinated in occult dabbling since 70's

now go check out witches of instagram, raised on pottermania
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79776928


I haven’t even read a horoscope in decades. The more I read the Bible the more I realized these seemingly harmless things are demonic inspired
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Right dumbass? You have a "job" because you have no profession or trade? You have no farm and crop?

Maybe if you grabbed what you could do and left the "jobs" to the kids?
The factory age brought jobs and both are horrible. They made hundreds of millions for "parts" and no longer want them at peak population.

People should just forget all the bullsht and think clearly first for their self. These "code" people do ok until they depart from common sense and "spoon! = spoo = spook! = fear! Feed yourself fear! Thats what you're doing using spoons!"
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A few interesting Conspiracy Theories about Harry Potter.

The Harry Potter books are are most definitely occult.

J. K. Rowling did not write the books; they were actually written by committee of MI6, who are in communication with demonic entities.

The Christians who cried "fowl" when Harry Potter started taking over were actually RIGHT. The book series was a major knock-out blow to the popularity and faith of Christianity, and was a major contributor to the weakening of the religion.

I actually quite like the Harry Potter books, but they were overall bad for the minds and spirituality of the majority of people.
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Most people don’t realize that Satan though dark and destructive, reaches them through enticing venues.
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Everything is a program-TV, print, movies games
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Do you honestly think this woman became the best selling author in HISTORY by being an outsider; and interloper?

Do you really think they would have allowed her to outsell THE BIBLE? The Bible was the best selling book until Harry Potter FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.

She has to be a Supreme Witch, has to be. And more.
 Quoting: Feathery


and do you honestly believe it wasn't written by a team that works at MARVEL? the yelling newspaper git in spiderman 1 with toby mcgwire wrote most of it.
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I would assume you are both right. No chance the official story is correct, an outsider would NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS be promoted to this level of success.

The author (or team?) behind the books is absolutely part of "the club".

But the books are actually pretty good. I've read all seven, and they're well written, with oodles of interesting characters and an engaging story.

My opinion, is that Harry Potter is "soft disclosure". Tell the truth in the form of fiction, for the purpose of hiding it.

The basic setting in Harry Potter, is that there exists a mundane world for normal people, and a hidden parallel world for the secret elites that run everything from behind the scenes, and these elites are engaging in occult practices. We outsiders are the "muggles" who go about our little lives, unaware of what's really going on. We think the prime minister is in power, but in Harry Potter we actually see a "wizard" entering his office and giving him orders.

The real world is exactly like that. But if you were to tell people that the real world prime minister answers to an unelected "handler" from a secret occult mystical sect, they will laugh at you and say you must have been watching too much Harry Potter.

And that's the reason they prompted this IMO. To better hide in plain sight.
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Everyone who says there were “real Latin” words in the HP spells obviously hasn’t studied the language.

JKR literally added syllables to English words to make them read/sound like something “magickal” in some cases and just made shit up for others.

Expelliarmus? Avada kadavra? Confringo????

Come the fuck on, people! Grow up. Stop looking for something where there is nothing. I just can’t even. Just can’t.
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Right dumbass? You have a "job" because you have no profession or trade? You have no farm and crop?

Maybe if you grabbed what you could do and left the "jobs" to the kids?
The factory age brought jobs and both are horrible. They made hundreds of millions for "parts" and no longer want them at peak population.

People should just forget all the bullsht and think clearly first for their self. These "code" people do ok until they depart from common sense and "spoon! = spoo = spook! = fear! Feed yourself fear! Thats what you're doing using spoons!"
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You missed the point of the video TOTALLY
and then like a slave defending his honor you start lobbing insults at the OP
Well done
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For fans of the Harry Potter, I am going to blow your mind with a hidden twist about the series.

The Ultimate bad guy in Harry Potter is actually Dumbledore, who is actually a dark wizard that has convinced everyone he is a good guy; and the book series is all about a very long term, evil ritual he is conducting that culminates in Dumbledore's evil soul possessing one of Harry Potter's sons... whose name is "Albus."

While everyone assumes that Voldemort was the one with aspirations of "living forever," by creating Horcruxes, Dumbledore got there first. Dumbledore created a horcrux out of his pet Phoenix, Fawkes (putting part of his soul in an immortal creature that "rebirths" itself) when he killed his sister. Unfortunately, Dumbledore came to regret casting this spell as he discovered that tearing your soul apart, while granting immortality, kinda sucks.

So he decided he wanted a new start, as a new person, in a new body. So Dumbledore took Phoenix feathers from Fawkes which contain fragments of Dumbledore's soul, and gave them to a wand maker to put as cores of wands. Whoever possesses the wands with those Phoenix feathers would be able to be possessed by Dumbledore...

Except this Spell didn't work out right either!

Which brings us to the beginning of the Harry Potter series. Voldemort is a dark wizard that went mad and bad partly because of the wand he got that contained Dumbledore's soul that tried to possess him, thus driving and inspiring Voldemort to go on to do the same Horcrux spell Dumbledore once did; however, a small piece of Dumbledore's soul is in Voldemort when Voldemort decided to split his soul 7 times, meaning that Dumbledore's soul got split a bunch of times while along for the ride.

The story of Harry Potter is really the story of Dumbledore's desperation to trying to re-piece together the soul that he Unintentionally split like 9 times, and once that was accomplished, his dark soul waited and bided its time within Harry Potter until Harry Potter had children, upon which Dumbledore's spirit possessed one of Harry Potter's sons... who's name was appropriately "Albus."... and for which reason, the horrible sequel series of Harry Potter that showed up in the form of that god awful play, was called "The Cursed Child."
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Those spells aren't real. Real spells require more than a waving stick and words. Offerings and actions are needed to perform inter dimensional activity. This is me by the way, I logged out to remain in the background.
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Real magic requires sacrifice. Some kind of blood sacrifice works best.
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Typical Christian douche that refuses to research. REAL Magick occurs when your intent/will is internalized into the subconscious. A communication/synergy occurs between the subconscious and God/source. In the esoteric/occult, we believe this is all just a dream/simulation. Nothing outside of God is real. In Harry Potter, Magick occurs as an external force, but In REAL Magick circles, this is all just a "giant lucid dream" that can be manipulated/changed.

Now, if you want to enter into an agreement with a magickal entity, payment can be required.
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Those spells aren't real. Real spells require more than a waving stick and words. Offerings and actions are needed to perform inter dimensional activity. This is me by the way, I logged out to remain in the background.
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Real magic requires sacrifice. Some kind of blood sacrifice works best.
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Typical Christian douche that refuses to research. REAL Magick occurs when your intent/will is internalized into the subconscious. A communication/synergy occurs between the subconscious and God/source. In the esoteric/occult, we believe this is all just a dream/simulation. Nothing outside of God is real. In Harry Potter, Magick occurs as an external force, but In REAL Magick circles, this is all just a "giant lucid dream" that can be manipulated/changed.

Now, if you want to enter into an agreement with a magickal entity, payment can be required.
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REAL magick is to realize the "real world" is just a shared lucid dream, and learning to manipulate it to manifest what is desired.

FAKE magick is to do rituals and invokations with entities to have them do it for you - at a price.

Christians are generally throwing out the baby with the bathwater when they shy away from any and all kinds of magick, never caring to tell the good kind from the bad.

Even though Jesus himself said we can perform miracles if we only have faith. Which is actually REAL magick.
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OP I used to be friends with a warlock and he LOVED watching the movies. Don't know if he read the book. So...it's instructions at least
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Wow! Just wow!
Came back this morning and found so many amazing insights and ideas about so many aspects of this subject. I am very thankful for all the answers, time spent, and consideration.

Have a wonderful day everyone and I thank you! I have some re-reading and thinking to do!chorus
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Are you serious ? This has to be a joke ! Opie, mental illness is real for sure, you are proof positive
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Did I step through a portal and go back to the 90s when religious nutters where predicting imminent doom because of Harry Potter and Pokemon?
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Re: Were the spells in Harry Potter books real; if so, did they program the young readers for bad?
Did I step through a portal and go back to the 90s when religious nutters where predicting imminent doom because of Harry Potter and Pokemon?
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Re: Were the spells in Harry Potter books real; if so, did they program the young readers for bad?
There's something off about about those books that I can't put my finger on. I've read most of them and seen all of the movies, and I just can't find anything overtly wrong with them. But they just give me the creeps for some reason, and I just have this strange feeling that they're somehow demonic.

There are lots of other books and movies in the same genre having to do with magic that don't give me any willies. Like the Lord of the Rings, for example, I've never gotten any creepy vibes from it. Like even though it was about magic and wizards and whatnot, I never got the feeling that it was demonic in any way (the opposite really).

And what's so bizarre about Harry Potter is that you can't really find anything morally or theologically wrong with it. You know, the themes are actually pretty solid. Friendship, loyalty, self sacrifice, doing what's right even if it costs you. With such good themes, I find it doubly perplexing that everything about Harry Potter creeps me out so much.

The only thing I can really quantify is that the ideal world in Harry Potter is kind of dark. So like in the Lord of the Rings, for example, the idealized world they're trying to save from Sauron is all good and true. But in Harry Potter, as the series progresses, you start to realize that the world they're trying to save from Voldemort is inherently kind of dark and twisted.

So for example, the dementors. Or the scene where Hagrid's pet is about to be beheaded. Like that was just the status quo of their little magical world outside of Hogwarts, Voldemort notwithstanding. So as the story goes on, you find out that the "good" side isn't necessarily all that good. Maybe they're just the lesser of two evils.

There's also a lot of emphasis on "gross" stuff. Like traveling through the sewers, for example. Throughout the entire series, there's this kind of obsession with anything disgusting. Which is honestly what you find in the actual demonic realm, where people who are into demonic stuff are usually kind of obsessed with anything nasty. A lot of actual demonically inspired ritual uses feces and things like that, or has the participants do gross things during the ritual.

You also see some dark imagery in the movies. Like in one of the classrooms, the candlesticks are made out of human spinal columns. I mean, seriously, there's really no good context for using human body parts as décor. That's pretty much relegated to like the Nazis and other cults obsessed with death.

Speaking of an obsession with death, you also see that as a recurring theme, and it's not generally very hopeful. You know, the castle is haunted by tortured spirits who are just eternally sad and mournful. And everything is kind of dark and dreary. Like the Ministry of Magic, for example...the way the artists portrayed it is like something out of a Nazi occultist's fantasy. So even in the "good" idealized world, you just have this obsession with the disgusting, combined with a predilection for anything dark and dreary, like to the point of consciously and systematically rejecting beauty and light.
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